[00:00.000 --> 00:08.180] So our next speaker is from NYU Tandon School of Engineering, from the Digital Future Lab. [00:09.100 --> 00:16.780] His focus for this talk will be using engineering and AI to build the next gen of smart scopes [00:16.780 --> 00:19.340] capable of diagnostic support. [00:19.700 --> 00:26.660] And fun little fact, on his spare time, he does 3D print graffiti artists in the style [00:26.660 --> 00:28.660] of green army men. [00:33.260 --> 00:41.380] So presenting their talk, microscopes are stupid, I agree, here is Lou Auguste. [00:46.700 --> 00:51.600] Hello everybody, good morning, good morning, thanks for coming to see this speech on microscopes [00:51.600 --> 00:52.580] are stupid. [00:52.900 --> 00:58.680] My name is Lou Auguste, I work at NYU Tandon School of Engineering in their future lab, [00:58.680 --> 01:04.200] so it's really, I'm an entrepreneur in residence there, they incubate my company, been running [01:04.200 --> 01:08.020] it there for three years now, and we work on solving this problem. [01:08.160 --> 01:12.040] So just a little bit before we get started, we've won some awards over the last couple [01:12.040 --> 01:12.600] of years. [01:12.600 --> 01:16.120] We won the ASME award for best hardware prototype in 2015. [01:16.540 --> 01:20.620] Last year we were nominated for science startup of the year by this competition out in Germany [01:20.620 --> 01:22.280] called Falling Walls. [01:22.400 --> 01:28.160] We won the Indian government's endowment for science research last year, and this year [01:28.160 --> 01:32.100] we're finalists for Qualcomm's prize for design in India. [01:32.420 --> 01:39.100] I published my methods in the British Medical Journal in 2015 on how to use smartphones [01:39.100 --> 01:46.320] to create whole slide images, and I did a pre-clinical validation study of that information [01:46.880 --> 01:51.920] in 2016, which I presented at USCAP, which is the United States and Canada Anatomical [01:51.920 --> 01:53.480] Pathologist Society. [01:53.940 --> 01:57.560] And this year we received IRB approval to do our clinical validation study, which I'm [01:57.560 --> 01:58.960] writing up right now. [02:00.180 --> 02:02.720] So yes, microscopes are stupid. [02:02.720 --> 02:04.460] I said it, and that's it. [02:04.560 --> 02:09.260] If you look at this microscope here, it's such a dinosaur that it's not even connected [02:09.260 --> 02:10.240] to the internet. [02:13.360 --> 02:17.740] So basically the problem is microscopes are dependent on the operator, and who's operating [02:17.740 --> 02:18.840] that microscope. [02:19.100 --> 02:23.500] And the problem that we're facing is as we look out at more and more of the healthcare [02:23.500 --> 02:29.040] landscape in the world, we find that there are things called healthcare deserts. [02:29.040 --> 02:34.260] These are places in America, the developing world, where options for healthcare don't [02:34.260 --> 02:35.200] exist. [02:35.400 --> 02:36.860] And it's not that they don't have microscopes. [02:36.860 --> 02:37.940] They have microscopes. [02:37.940 --> 02:40.860] They don't have anyone that could help them do diagnosis. [02:41.680 --> 02:47.980] So this is very true, as I said, in Kentucky, just as true as it is in Haiti, just as true [02:47.980 --> 02:49.220] as it is in India. [02:50.760 --> 02:55.220] So, before we go forward, I want to give a shout out to my boy, Anton van Leeuwenhoek. [02:56.260 --> 02:58.980] He's like the G of microscopes. [02:59.020 --> 03:05.980] So basically, he was born in the 1500s, and 40 years before he was born, they had created [03:05.980 --> 03:07.620] the compound microscope. [03:08.500 --> 03:13.360] Leeuwenhoek was a tradesman, and he was actually into glassworking. [03:13.360 --> 03:15.180] He didn't have any advanced degrees. [03:15.180 --> 03:17.120] He didn't have a PhD. [03:17.120 --> 03:19.740] So he was eliminated from a lot of the science community. [03:20.120 --> 03:25.740] But what he did was he created, with his knowledge of glassblowing or glassmaking, he created [03:25.740 --> 03:27.260] this microscope here. [03:27.360 --> 03:31.880] And this microscope had a magnification of over 200 times magnification. [03:32.200 --> 03:36.140] Up to that point, they had already invented the compound microscope, which is very similar [03:36.140 --> 03:38.660] to what we see today in any laboratory. [03:38.760 --> 03:43.120] But that only had a magnification of 20 to 30 times magnification. [03:43.640 --> 03:47.400] So van Leeuwenhoek was definitely one of the first disruptors. [03:47.460 --> 03:52.540] And he's also considered the father of microbiology, because of what he was able to see through [03:52.540 --> 03:54.280] his microscope that he created. [03:54.440 --> 03:59.380] And in fact, it wasn't really until the 1800s that they made any advancements past what [03:59.380 --> 04:01.120] he made with this microscope here. [04:02.500 --> 04:04.640] So also, humans are stupid. [04:04.680 --> 04:11.560] Because when we're given the task, humans get tired, and they miss things. [04:11.560 --> 04:14.780] And diagnosis itself depends on memory. [04:15.160 --> 04:20.480] So you probably can't see this right here, because the screen's a little bit contrasty. [04:20.620 --> 04:25.460] But if you were looking for cancer on this thing, there's actually a monkey in the upper [04:25.460 --> 04:30.480] right-hand corner of the lung that most people miss when they're looking for cancer. [04:30.540 --> 04:34.260] So I'm not sure if you could see that here, but that's usually a good example of how people [04:34.260 --> 04:38.900] miss things that are obvious when they're doing something that's repetitive. [04:39.560 --> 04:45.180] So a little history on telepathology, which is sort of what we do. [04:45.420 --> 04:47.540] So this is 1986. [04:47.560 --> 04:51.340] This was the first demonstration of a robotic microscope. [04:51.600 --> 04:55.060] And you can only imagine the satisfaction that this man felt clutching those keys and [04:55.060 --> 04:59.760] hearing those sweet clicking sounds as he moved the microscope around. [04:59.980 --> 05:04.780] And really, the history of telepathology is sort of a history of the internet in many [05:04.780 --> 05:06.080] ways as well. [05:06.080 --> 05:11.320] Because as things improved with the internet, we were able to do more and more in terms [05:11.320 --> 05:16.900] of sharing slides, and then virtually moving on to creating virtual slides and sharing [05:16.900 --> 05:18.360] those slides over the cloud. [05:18.540 --> 05:22.360] And now with things like TensorFlow, we're actually getting to the point where we can [05:22.360 --> 05:26.140] deploy AI locally on the device. [05:26.360 --> 05:31.260] And that's a big step, I think, that's happening right now in the telepathology industry. [05:32.740 --> 05:39.440] So, really, the work that I've done over the last four years has been focused on helping [05:39.440 --> 05:43.200] health outcomes in the developing world and solving the problems that they're facing. [05:43.300 --> 05:46.900] And so one of the biggest problems we look at is this really simple equation. [05:46.900 --> 05:48.940] Lost time equals lost lives. [05:49.060 --> 05:54.340] So there's a worldwide shortage of pathologists or doctors able to make diagnosis. [05:54.660 --> 05:58.240] And because of that, people can't get diagnosed. [05:58.240 --> 06:01.800] And so if people can't get diagnosed, they can't begin treatment. [06:01.860 --> 06:06.800] And the later you wait to begin treatment, the worse your health outcome is going to be. [06:08.720 --> 06:15.480] So a lot of the research we've done is creating just simple ratios when we look and see how [06:15.480 --> 06:21.120] many specialists there are in a country versus how many people there are. [06:21.120 --> 06:28.360] And so you can see that in the US, you've got a ratio of basically 1 to 17,000. [06:29.260 --> 06:35.360] But then if you look at a country like China, you've got 1 to 58,000. [06:35.420 --> 06:40.860] And then if you look at a country like Haiti, you've got 1 to 1,375,000. [06:40.920 --> 06:47.320] So you can see that there's just not enough doctors to make diagnosis for all these people. [06:47.820 --> 06:51.580] And there's also things that happen when you're in one of these countries that has a small [06:51.580 --> 06:52.680] number of doctors. [06:52.920 --> 06:56.600] You can actually fix your price as one of those doctors, and your price can be a lot [06:56.600 --> 06:58.640] higher than it would be in another country. [06:58.860 --> 07:01.700] And so not only are those people not able to get access, but they have to pay a lot [07:01.700 --> 07:03.960] more money for access to diagnosis. [07:04.840 --> 07:11.200] So the College of American Pathologists states that between 60% and 70% of all diseases need [07:11.340 --> 07:16.360] a diagnosis using some sort of cellular biology. [07:16.360 --> 07:22.300] And that includes cancer, things like malaria, a lot of diseases that we know today. [07:23.060 --> 07:28.240] Anyway, so another thing we've studied is this travel burden. [07:28.540 --> 07:31.840] And a lot of people have done studies here in America. [07:31.840 --> 07:35.040] And so we have three studies here, one from Kentucky, one from Illinois, and one from [07:35.040 --> 07:35.960] Georgia. [07:36.240 --> 07:42.680] And basically all these studies stated that people that lived at a far distance away from [07:42.680 --> 07:47.120] the primary diagnosis center, they would get staged for cancer much later. [07:47.600 --> 07:49.540] And so that's a big thing that we're facing. [07:49.640 --> 07:54.400] So like I said, if it takes you a long time to get a diagnosis, you're probably going [07:54.400 --> 07:57.900] to get diagnosed much later when it's going to be much more difficult to cure. [07:59.160 --> 08:03.840] So to give you an example of one of the patients that I saw when I was down in Haiti. [08:04.020 --> 08:07.660] So we had this woman come about three years ago and present herself. [08:07.660 --> 08:09.000] And she had a breast mask. [08:09.560 --> 08:15.060] And so we had a surgeon at the hospital who was able to do a biopsy for her, but there [08:15.060 --> 08:19.400] was no one available that could look at her specimen once we had it. [08:20.020 --> 08:25.440] So we gave her her specimen in a jar, and we gave her instructions on how to get to [08:25.440 --> 08:26.660] the nearest laboratory. [08:26.920 --> 08:31.000] And so that laboratory is about six, seven hours away, and she never made that visit. [08:31.320 --> 08:35.880] So a couple of years later, she came back in, and this time the mask had grown so large [08:35.880 --> 08:37.960] that it actually had ulcerated out of her breast. [08:37.960 --> 08:43.760] So now you see we definitely can say, okay, well, this without a doubt is going to be [08:43.760 --> 08:45.060] breast cancer right here. [08:45.340 --> 08:48.940] But when we first saw her, when she first presented herself, when she only had a small [08:48.940 --> 08:53.560] mask, we could have used diagnostic testing to prove that it was breast cancer at that [08:53.560 --> 08:57.140] point, and consequently we could have started treatment much earlier. [08:57.500 --> 09:00.340] And that's sort of an example of what happens. [09:00.760 --> 09:06.760] Also it's important to note that the cost of testing, diagnostic testing, in Haiti is [09:06.760 --> 09:08.440] $50 per test. [09:08.580 --> 09:12.800] So that's like a really important number to kind of remember. [09:13.440 --> 09:18.660] So the previous solutions were like to travel to Port-au-Prince, find a lab, wait a few [09:18.660 --> 09:20.520] months and hopefully get a diagnosis. [09:21.220 --> 09:25.660] What we were doing before, a long time ago, was collecting all the samples, flying them [09:25.660 --> 09:30.100] to America, getting a lab to process them in the United States, sending all the results [09:30.100 --> 09:33.360] back and praying that we could find all the people that we had tested while we were down [09:33.360 --> 09:34.020] there. [09:35.060 --> 09:39.980] Another chance is like the doctor operates based on symptoms, and then really what mostly [09:39.980 --> 09:42.620] ends up happening is people die of unknown diseases. [09:43.400 --> 09:46.320] So that's pretty heavy, so I'm going to chill out for a second. [09:49.360 --> 09:54.100] But we're like, we're working to solve this problem because we know we can. [09:54.100 --> 09:57.280] And we know we can use technology to solve this problem. [09:57.700 --> 10:02.360] And so what we've done is we've been focusing on building human-machine teams. [10:02.940 --> 10:08.480] So the vision really is, and it's something that the WHO sort of shares with us as well, [10:08.480 --> 10:10.940] is to create more healthcare workers. [10:10.940 --> 10:16.660] Because the paradigm of having a hospital, having a doctor that we know and well love [10:16.660 --> 10:20.700] here in America or in other developed nations, it's just not going to work in a lot of these [10:20.700 --> 10:21.340] countries. [10:21.340 --> 10:26.440] So we have to take people that are willing to go to school for maybe six months to a [10:26.440 --> 10:31.520] year, train them at a skill, that could be a skill like becoming a lab tech, and then [10:31.520 --> 10:36.120] give them the technology they need in order to share those slides so that they could make [10:36.120 --> 10:37.360] more diagnosis. [10:38.120 --> 10:39.560] And so that's something we've been working on. [10:39.560 --> 10:44.120] This is the team that I go down to Haiti with from time to time to do that. [10:45.300 --> 10:50.040] So another big thing we've been looking at is, okay, so once we can build the capacity [10:52.000 --> 10:56.800] for doctors or for healthcare workers to prepare specimens to upload those specimens to the [10:56.800 --> 10:59.900] internet, well, who are they going to share those specimens with? [10:59.900 --> 11:03.600] So normally what we did in the past was we shared them with doctors here in America. [11:03.740 --> 11:05.900] But doctors in America are really busy. [11:06.020 --> 11:09.420] They don't have enough time to look at cases from another hospital, especially if it's [11:09.420 --> 11:13.100] not helping them on the bottom line, it's not helping them make more money or do whatever. [11:13.700 --> 11:17.680] So what we've actually done is we're working with this team of doctors here in Tanzania. [11:18.240 --> 11:22.660] And so these are all doctors, these are all pathologists, the women that you're seeing [11:22.660 --> 11:26.040] here, and that's our friend Mumbek, he's also a doctor in Tanzania. [11:26.040 --> 11:32.600] And what we've been working is in this hospital, Mumbek in Dar es Salaam, we're setting them [11:32.600 --> 11:35.000] up with the technology that they need. [11:35.260 --> 11:39.560] So remember when I said it was important, remember that it costs $50 to get a slide [11:39.560 --> 11:40.840] diagnosed in Haiti. [11:40.840 --> 11:43.780] Well, in Tanzania, the cost of reading a slide is only $12. [11:43.900 --> 11:49.060] So already we're saving money for the people that are in Haiti by giving them this option. [11:49.200 --> 11:53.060] And the doctors in Tanzania are only making about $700 per month. [11:53.060 --> 11:56.540] So they are actually interested in supplementing their income. [11:57.240 --> 12:01.280] And they also have an unused capacity, because they're sitting in traffic, and most of them [12:01.280 --> 12:02.180] have drivers. [12:02.180 --> 12:05.560] So when they're sitting in traffic, there's time for them, if they're on their tablet [12:05.560 --> 12:08.620] or smartphone device, to actually be reviewing cases. [12:08.900 --> 12:15.600] So our solution is really to actually send our cases from Haiti to Tanzania to decrease [12:15.600 --> 12:19.400] the cost of testing, so the people in Haiti can afford to pay for testing, and they can [12:19.400 --> 12:20.840] get a diagnosis quickly. [12:21.340 --> 12:24.460] And then hopefully what we'll do is export the lab training program that we're developing [12:24.460 --> 12:29.040] in Haiti, export that over to Tanzania, and then create more lab techs, more health workers, [12:29.040 --> 12:30.760] that can work with what we're building. [12:31.900 --> 12:34.000] So that's sort of where we're at. [12:34.080 --> 12:38.580] And how we've been accomplishing this right now is we've been developing a system we call [12:38.580 --> 12:39.440] SmartScope. [12:39.880 --> 12:42.740] So this system basically has two components. [12:43.260 --> 12:48.440] It attaches to a regular microscope, and over the eyepiece, we have a camera that just fits [12:48.440 --> 12:49.600] on the eyepiece. [12:49.600 --> 12:52.780] And so that'll fit up to an outer diameter of 44 millimeters. [12:52.860 --> 12:55.920] So that'll cover most eyepieces that are out there. [12:56.260 --> 13:01.760] And then we built this robotic slide holder, and it just attaches with two screws to the [13:01.760 --> 13:05.880] side of the stage of the microscope. [13:06.320 --> 13:12.080] So basically with these two pretty simple pieces of technology we've developed over [13:12.080 --> 13:16.960] the last three years, we can take a standard microscope, and then we can turn it into an [13:16.960 --> 13:18.040] IoT device. [13:18.430 --> 13:24.500] And so what this is is something that we can deploy at a cost of about $1,000 to $2,000. [13:24.900 --> 13:29.000] And on the other side, the companies that were previously building whole slide imaging [13:29.000 --> 13:34.480] machines and dynamic microscopes, they were normally charging between $3,000 and $100,000 [13:34.480 --> 13:36.520] for one of these standalone devices. [13:36.880 --> 13:40.500] And if you've worked in the developing world, you'll know that any sort of standalone device [13:40.500 --> 13:44.840] that they have, there's a good likelihood that it's going to be broken by the time you [13:44.840 --> 13:46.900] get back there the next time you come down. [13:46.900 --> 13:49.360] And there's no one that's going to service these devices. [13:49.540 --> 13:55.160] So we've actually created this technology really mimicking what we saw in 3D printers, [13:55.160 --> 13:58.040] and we've created technology that you can actually repair yourself. [13:58.440 --> 14:01.180] So I think that's a big change right now. [14:01.340 --> 14:05.420] And then you can share it on your... it runs on the cloud, so you can share it on your [14:05.420 --> 14:08.500] desktop, you can share it on your tablet, or you can even look at it on your smartphone. [14:10.140 --> 14:13.920] So how we built it up to this point was we used the Intel Edison. [14:14.280 --> 14:19.480] We thought that was a really good solution for us to start with, because it gave us a [14:19.480 --> 14:23.060] lot of versatility, we could run a whole bunch of programs on it. [14:23.060 --> 14:28.220] But the one drawback of working with the Edison was that it required us to have a computer [14:28.220 --> 14:29.880] to run everything with. [14:29.880 --> 14:32.940] So we couldn't sort of do things, everything on the device. [14:32.940 --> 14:38.380] And that was sort of where we're at, and we're actually deploying these units into the field, [14:38.380 --> 14:41.720] having sort of more and more use cases for it. [14:41.720 --> 14:45.820] So we have hospitals in Indiana that are using it for immunohistochemistry stains. [14:45.880 --> 14:49.380] They're just making sure, they're just using it for Q&A, for that kind of stuff. [14:49.820 --> 14:51.260] But it's been good. [14:51.260 --> 14:54.500] And so now we're looking at the next... what's next for us? [14:54.500 --> 14:55.780] What's next in the future? [14:56.240 --> 14:59.920] And so, I mean, I think this quote from Freeman Dyson is really good. [15:00.200 --> 15:04.000] New directions in science are launched by new tools more than they are by new concepts. [15:04.140 --> 15:06.940] The effect of concept-driven revolution is to explain old things in new ways. [15:06.940 --> 15:11.420] The effect of tool-driven revolution is to discover new things that have to be explained. [15:11.420 --> 15:15.940] So I think in a lot of ways, when Leeuwenhoek went on and developed a microscope [15:15.940 --> 15:21.400] that could see at 200 times magnification, then he could explain microbiology. [15:21.420 --> 15:27.100] For us, what we see in the vision is not only are we sort of working with this concept of people [15:27.100 --> 15:33.340] that are going to be providing healthcare workers, we're also giving them the tools they need. [15:33.380 --> 15:35.720] And we think these tools are powerful enough and cheap enough [15:35.720 --> 15:39.540] that they can be deployed in every single laboratory anywhere in the world. [15:39.540 --> 15:44.940] And we can create a whole global network, something that we like to call Skype for Microscopes. [15:45.000 --> 15:50.620] And this is how we're going to be able to track new diseases as new diseases emerge into the world. [15:50.620 --> 15:53.680] We're going to need to have these capabilities. [15:53.680 --> 15:55.860] We can't just send an expert there right away. [15:55.860 --> 15:58.220] There's time that it takes to transfer someone there. [15:58.340 --> 16:01.180] But having a sort of a network that's really light, [16:01.180 --> 16:05.780] we can create people around the world that can share this information with a centralized location. [16:06.060 --> 16:08.240] And so I think that's sort of where we're at. [16:08.240 --> 16:11.580] So I'll give you a little bit of a demo of how everything works. [16:12.120 --> 16:14.660] Let me see, just press the play button there. [16:15.740 --> 16:19.200] So this is our new website. It's launching later this month. [16:20.020 --> 16:26.640] Basically, once you sign in, you can access any devices that you have permissions to access. [16:27.120 --> 16:28.920] And so the devices are there. [16:29.300 --> 16:36.500] And then these are invitations, so you can receive invitations to join a session by someone else that has a device. [16:37.060 --> 16:42.180] And then once we have everything sort of running, we have this interface here. [16:42.180 --> 16:44.100] And you'll see the slide come up in a second. [16:44.660 --> 16:48.360] And so what we're able to do is we're able to control the movement of the slide. [16:48.480 --> 16:51.040] But we can also do things like add comments. [16:51.060 --> 16:53.860] So right now we're adding a comment to this box here. [16:54.100 --> 16:57.040] That could be sort of like anything you're seeing on the slide. [16:57.600 --> 17:00.080] You can submit that comment and that's recorded. [17:00.340 --> 17:03.100] We can invite people into the session, really simple. [17:03.100 --> 17:05.180] So we're going to invite Carlos right now. [17:05.180 --> 17:06.600] He's going to come in. [17:06.780 --> 17:07.960] We're going to invite him. [17:08.100 --> 17:10.620] You can see we have all the information available there. [17:11.040 --> 17:12.420] That's running on the local host. [17:13.000 --> 17:14.840] We have all the information on the slide there. [17:14.840 --> 17:17.720] And then we can slide that away and then you can view the whole slide. [17:18.420 --> 17:24.540] And so this is just a feed from a regular microscope, just from the eyepiece of the microscope. [17:25.160 --> 17:26.900] So obviously, I mean, there's some imperfections. [17:26.900 --> 17:28.300] You're seeing dirt and stuff like that. [17:28.300 --> 17:31.620] But this is what you would be seeing if you were looking through that eyepiece anyway. [17:31.620 --> 17:36.060] So it's a lot of, I mean, it's got clinical quality. [17:36.240 --> 17:38.020] It's getting the job done. [17:38.020 --> 17:43.940] And it really requires very little IT infrastructure to work in any way. [17:44.940 --> 17:47.280] So, yeah, I mean, now you're viewing the slide. [17:47.280 --> 17:53.000] And this is sort of an example of how we can look at different parts of the slide in order to determine a diagnosis. [17:53.380 --> 17:56.860] And then if we see something we like, we can take an image of that. [17:57.060 --> 17:59.100] We can add a comment to that image. [17:59.500 --> 18:02.900] And then once we add the comment to the image, we'll save that as well. [18:04.040 --> 18:07.240] And that just downloads to your computer, so you have a copy of it. [18:07.780 --> 18:13.140] And the idea, basically, is once you close out of the session, what you'll be able to do is create a report. [18:13.420 --> 18:18.580] And that report would just act as a single lab report, very similar to any sort of lab report you get from any hospital. [18:18.920 --> 18:23.680] It would tell you who was in the session, who started the session, what hospital the session took place at. [18:23.940 --> 18:26.780] And it would tell you if any sort of diagnosis was made. [18:26.780 --> 18:28.900] And then it would give thumbnails of any images. [18:29.300 --> 18:31.860] Okay, cool. So I've got about five minutes left. [18:33.460 --> 18:35.840] So, let's finish with this guy. [18:36.940 --> 18:38.960] And then we'll move on to the next slide. [18:39.200 --> 18:45.360] So, that's sort of where we're at in terms of how we see connecting laboratories around the world together. [18:45.600 --> 18:50.120] So let me talk to you a little bit about something that's called FlockMind, which I think is pretty interesting. [18:50.240 --> 18:51.900] So this was a study that was done. [18:51.900 --> 18:57.080] The doctor is like, some people don't like her, she's like sort of one of those figures. [18:57.200 --> 19:00.000] But she did this study basically where she took pigeons. [19:00.140 --> 19:05.360] And she trained the pigeons in order to make diagnosis on breast cancer using images from slides. [19:05.740 --> 19:11.620] So the pigeons themselves had an 85% diagnostic accuracy when determining cancer. [19:12.420 --> 19:17.360] But when they took the whole flock of pigeons, and then they actually took the result of the flock, [19:17.360 --> 19:19.940] they found that it actually raised up to 98%. [19:21.120 --> 19:22.880] So it was actually pretty good. [19:22.880 --> 19:27.880] But the thing they weren't telling you when I read the article was that they only used a training set. [19:27.880 --> 19:31.660] So they trained the pigeons on these images, and they just gave them the same training images again. [19:31.660 --> 19:34.680] They never gave them a testing set, so they sort of tried to hide that data. [19:34.680 --> 19:35.920] So I'm going to tell you that one. [19:35.920 --> 19:40.280] But it's still really interesting that with a training set, they could have the pigeons make their diagnosis. [19:41.340 --> 19:45.020] So that's essentially what we're trying to do right now with AI. [19:45.020 --> 19:52.520] So we're using TensorFlow, and we're basically creating our own methods of detecting cancer. [19:52.520 --> 19:55.280] So this is one in particular for cervical cancer. [19:55.280 --> 20:00.800] And we're doing screening programs where we can determine what level of cervical cancer that people are facing. [20:01.180 --> 20:05.100] And it's actually going really well. We're really happy. [20:05.100 --> 20:10.100] And we're able to build a lot of data because we have our own slide scanners, which is a big thing that holds a lot of people in line. [20:10.860 --> 20:14.280] And right now, we're working with Qualcomm, as I mentioned before. [20:14.280 --> 20:19.760] And the reason why we're really excited about that is because we're trying to actually create a new device altogether. [20:20.040 --> 20:23.500] This would be a standalone device that wouldn't need a computer or anything like that. [20:23.500 --> 20:27.120] And we really see this as the future of microscopy in a lot of ways. [20:27.300 --> 20:30.580] We can do everything that we were talking about before on this device. [20:30.580 --> 20:32.980] We could control our motors. We could do everything we want there. [20:33.020 --> 20:35.860] We could run our CV-based image stitching programs. [20:36.040 --> 20:37.720] And we can use TensorFlow and AI. [20:37.720 --> 20:42.180] And a lot of people are getting at us right now because they have been developing AI and they've been looking for platforms to run it on [20:42.180 --> 20:45.220] that are so cheap that they can be deployed into the developing world. [20:46.040 --> 20:48.200] And on the conclusion, that's what I'm going to say. [20:48.460 --> 20:51.800] It's all going to be good. We're all going to be alright because we're working on solving this problem. [20:52.160 --> 20:53.980] Thanks very much for your time today.