1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,100 Everybody, sorry about that. The wiring gods were really not smiling on us right now. I blame 2 00:00:05,100 --> 00:00:11,100 VGA as I have for about the last 40 years. Welcome to Crypto Privacy Village. Thank you for 3 00:00:11,100 --> 00:00:17,400 being here. I've got another great talk lined up and we've got Lauren Rucker who's going to be 4 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:23,280 talking about privacy within a relationship. Let's talk about you and me. Give it up for Lauren. 5 00:00:30,380 --> 00:00:36,340 No one's adapters seem to be working. So fuck it. We're doing it live. You'll see me look down a 6 00:00:36,340 --> 00:00:44,040 lot because I can't see my slides to the right and see where I'm at. So I apologize for that. I had 7 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:49,460 an awesome salt and pepper talking about, let's talk about you and me. Let's talk about all the 8 00:00:49,460 --> 00:00:55,360 good things and the bad things that may be. So half this talk is going to talk more on privacy 9 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,120 law and the other half is going to talk on privacy mitigation techniques. 10 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:07,720 Especially specifically like spyware. So first thing I wanted to cover was a brief history of 11 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:14,300 your privacy rights. So in case you don't know the background on that, the right to privacy was 12 00:01:14,300 --> 00:01:21,580 a Harvard Law Review article and it was published in 1890 and it ended up coming about because of 13 00:01:21,580 --> 00:01:26,320 the invention of the Kodak cameras and two lawyers at the time were just really concerned with 14 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,980 how invasive that privacy was. So I'm going to talk a little bit more about that. I'm going to 15 00:01:29,980 --> 00:01:30,260 talk a little bit more about that. I'm going to talk a little bit more about that. So the first thing 16 00:01:30,260 --> 00:01:35,520 I wanted to cover was that people's pictures could be taken and distributed and generally how it 17 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:40,600 would weaken the right of peoples and their privacy and private lives as it could be published 18 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:47,860 in the newspapers. So they ended up writing a pretty long article published in Harvard Law 19 00:01:47,860 --> 00:01:56,920 Review and from that came what we mainly use now as the right to privacy from a law perspective. 20 00:01:59,980 --> 00:02:02,560 Okay, so the first part is about invading privacy. These are the four torts or ways that you will 21 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:10,140 infringe on someone's privacy. And the four torts are intrusion upon seclusion, and I'll talk 22 00:02:10,140 --> 00:02:17,220 through each of these really quickly. Appropriation, publication of private facts, and false light. 23 00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:23,340 So the biggest thing that this talk is going to hit on is intrusion upon seclusion. So if you're 24 00:02:23,340 --> 00:02:29,620 living with someone or you're in a relationship or marriage with someone, the biggest you're giving 25 00:02:29,620 --> 00:02:29,960 up a lot of privacy. But if you're willing to pay the price you're going to pay for privacy. And 26 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,740 lot of your privacy rights because you're sharing so much with that person anyway. So intrusion upon 27 00:02:33,740 --> 00:02:39,360 seclusion is intentionally intruding physically or otherwise upon the solitude or seclusion of 28 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:46,380 another of his private affairs or concerns. And if the intrusion would be highly offensive to a 29 00:02:46,380 --> 00:02:51,140 reasonable person. So you'll see language like that in these privacy torts where it's really gray 30 00:02:51,140 --> 00:02:57,700 and what's defining a reasonable person. And a lot of that's up to the court. And I'll go through 31 00:02:57,700 --> 00:03:02,180 some of the Supreme Court cases that have helped define this when you're talking privacy rights 32 00:03:02,180 --> 00:03:09,620 in a marriage. There's also publication of private facts. So a lot of that has to do with 33 00:03:09,620 --> 00:03:17,360 if someone puts revenge porn on websites. And so that is protected by law. False light where 34 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:25,540 you're having slander if you're a public figure. And again, we're going to talk about what defines 35 00:03:25,540 --> 00:03:27,580 highly offensive to a reasonable person. 36 00:03:27,700 --> 00:03:36,080 Oops. So next up is our, if they're up there, basically our bigger federal laws that help talk to 37 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:42,120 privacy. And that's the Federal Wiretap Act, Stored Communications Act, Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, 38 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:47,640 and the 14th Amendment really helped touch on this subject and kind of cut through the gray. 39 00:03:47,780 --> 00:03:55,200 So wiretap obviously, I'm sure you guys are familiar, but protects interception or access to 40 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,680 personal communications. And so that's supposed to protect personal communications. And so that's 41 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:05,840 protecting people accessing your data, your telephone taps, your access to the internet, and are they 42 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:11,000 monitoring it. And then with Stored Communications Act, that's protecting the computer and online 43 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:18,880 accounts from unauthorized access and how that data is stored. And it also addresses voluntary 44 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:26,360 disclosure, so stored, wired, and electronic communications and the records that are being held 45 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,660 by the ISP. 46 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:28,180 So that's why it's called the Stored Communications Act. 47 00:04:28,180 --> 00:04:31,440 Internet Service Writers themselves. Or Internet Service Writers, excuse me. 48 00:04:32,420 --> 00:04:40,240 For the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, that's a really overarching act. But in this case it's talking about 49 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:48,680 prohibiting access, unauthorized access to somebody's account, or a computer. And not, you know, walking 50 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,140 into other people's accounts. 51 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,860 Because that's talking about right to people being secure in their persons, houses, papers, or effects. 52 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,680 But when you're talking about privacy within a relationship, a lot of that is shared. 53 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,020 So the amendment, as far as a constitutional right, 54 00:05:11,500 --> 00:05:16,620 it's actually the 14th amendment that defines a lot of these further laws 55 00:05:16,620 --> 00:05:21,080 when you're talking individual rights to privacy when you are legally bound. 56 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,740 So I'm just going to, I had it up here, but just so you know the language a little bit. 57 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:33,880 No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States, 58 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:39,780 nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law, 59 00:05:39,980 --> 00:05:45,400 nor deny any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. 60 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:52,780 So enforcing these privacy torts is really where the 14th amendment comes in 61 00:05:52,780 --> 00:05:57,260 in order to protect yourself and your individual privacy. 62 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:03,800 So I'm going to talk about some famous Supreme Court cases that have helped define this. 63 00:06:04,100 --> 00:06:08,660 The biggest one, going back in time and coming forward, 64 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,560 is the Union Pacific Railway Company in Botsford, actually. 65 00:06:12,780 --> 00:06:16,660 And this was back in, I think, the 1890s. 66 00:06:16,780 --> 00:06:23,960 And so that basically had to do with individuals' right to privacy 67 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,500 and making sure that that was a constitutional amendment 68 00:06:26,500 --> 00:06:27,660 and defining the law. 69 00:06:27,660 --> 00:06:32,960 finding that, I think at that point, no right is held more sacred or is more carefully guarded 70 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,100 by the common law than the right of every individual to the possession and control of his 71 00:06:37,100 --> 00:06:43,740 own person, free from all restraint and interference of others. And so that particular 72 00:06:43,740 --> 00:06:52,400 case helped define and solidify that privacy was part of U.S. constitutional rights and for their 73 00:06:52,400 --> 00:07:03,800 U.S. citizens. So another famous case is the Einstatt versus Barrett, and that safeguarded a 74 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:12,900 single person's access to contraception. So that whole court case was about defining if you were 75 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:19,580 single or you were married and your access to contraception, and what came out of that was 76 00:07:20,460 --> 00:07:22,380 both single and married people. 77 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,960 People should have access to contraception and be able to make that choice for themselves. 78 00:07:26,420 --> 00:07:31,480 It is the right of the individual to make that type of choice. And so even if they're married, 79 00:07:31,620 --> 00:07:36,080 they should be able to choose. So I know we're touching a little bit on abortion. You'll see 80 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,480 that in these cases. I'll bring up abortion laws a little bit or contraception or reproduction. 81 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:47,080 But that's a lot of the battles that do make it to the Supreme Court case in order to help define. 82 00:07:50,340 --> 00:07:52,100 So the next one is Roe v. 83 00:07:52,400 --> 00:08:01,400 Wade. This was a big, obviously abortion, heavy, like mainly focusing on that and was really 84 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:07,800 paramount. But again, it legalized abortion and then protected the woman's reproductive choice 85 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:13,720 within the marriage. So again, protecting their privacy to make a choice. And so that's the main 86 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:19,260 takeaway from these court cases is I'm not talking reproductive rights today, but the privacy to make 87 00:08:19,260 --> 00:08:22,200 a choice. And these are some of the Supreme Court cases. 88 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:32,300 That help you see the background as to why you should have online privacy as well. 89 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:40,200 And then we have Lawrence v. Texas. And this had to do with a Texas stature that was criminalizing 90 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:49,940 different sexual acts by consenting gay couples. And it overturned a lot of anti-sodomy laws. 91 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,280 And it actually set the work. 92 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:58,280 Groundwork for decriminalization of a lot of adultery laws that were still withheld in a lot of states as well. 93 00:09:00,820 --> 00:09:09,320 I think about 20 states still had those type of laws. And so it outlawed most of the time these criminal 94 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:17,560 sodomy laws passed over half the states and outlawed all forms of like sexual expression between persons of the same sex. 95 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,640 So it was targeting them specifically. 96 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:28,240 So this particular case of Lawrence v. Texas put the choice back to the individual and their private matters back to the individual. 97 00:09:28,540 --> 00:09:33,700 And that you couldn't go to jail just for having sex with who you wanted to have sex with. 98 00:09:34,180 --> 00:09:38,740 That that was a choice. And that is your private choice to do so. 99 00:09:39,340 --> 00:09:45,400 And then for the most recent one is in 2012 we had United States v. Jones. 100 00:09:45,740 --> 00:09:48,540 And that had to do with installing a GPS tracking device. 101 00:09:48,540 --> 00:09:53,860 They were actually, this one has to do with a drug ring more than anything, but basically 102 00:09:53,860 --> 00:10:00,220 the government put a tracking device on this guy's wife's car and they had a warrant to 103 00:10:00,220 --> 00:10:06,180 do so, but they had to do so within 10 days and I think they had to do so within, I think 104 00:10:06,180 --> 00:10:10,620 it was the District of Columbia, so DC, that's a very small geographic area. 105 00:10:10,900 --> 00:10:16,160 So they didn't install the device until 11 days, so the warrant had expired to do so 106 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,960 and they also installed it in Maryland. 107 00:10:18,460 --> 00:10:25,380 So basically what came out of that is the data was not used in the court case for that 108 00:10:25,380 --> 00:10:32,560 drug ring and it confirmed that to do GPS location and get that data on someone and 109 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:39,000 collect on that, you have to have a warrant to do so, otherwise it doesn't hold water 110 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:39,440 in court. 111 00:10:41,220 --> 00:10:46,140 And we're talking a lot about law and court here because privacy in a relationship, you 112 00:10:47,140 --> 00:10:51,920 know, if you want to know your rights, you kind of have to know the law and what has 113 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,060 helped define that. 114 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:59,620 So a lot of the state cases as well, and state by state has different rules on what you can 115 00:10:59,620 --> 00:11:06,880 or can't collect or some of them just have gray areas, so I'll have a resource at the 116 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:14,140 end that I'll say out loud and it has a great comprehensive website, like state by state, 117 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:15,440 to get you started. 118 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:16,880 If you're truly interested in that. 119 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:23,460 And when I was talking to a couple of my friends that do practice law, the biggest people they 120 00:11:23,460 --> 00:11:27,600 pointed me to for their state is it's going to be by state and it's going to be divorce 121 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:32,640 lawyers, usually know that stuff way better because when things get nasty, that's where 122 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,120 people don't like to share as much sometimes. 123 00:11:36,540 --> 00:11:42,140 So for state cases, this is a big one, it's white versus white and this was in New Jersey. 124 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,420 So basically white versus white. 125 00:11:45,420 --> 00:11:50,580 What happened with here is the guy was kind of staying in the sunroom, the family computer 126 00:11:51,300 --> 00:11:58,320 was also used in the sunroom, family kids, husband and wife, would all log in and use 127 00:11:58,320 --> 00:11:58,540 it 128 00:11:58,540 --> 00:12:05,800 The wife saw a letter addressed to the guy's girlfriend supposedly laying out, so she 129 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,440 took him to court for divorce and it was a pretty nasty custody case. 130 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,680 What came out of that though? 131 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:13,320 It's. 132 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:14,760 It's. 133 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:20,860 the computer was in a shared use space and it wasn't unreasonable for people to 134 00:12:20,860 --> 00:12:28,700 view or have access to his shared files on the computer and his email that 135 00:12:28,700 --> 00:12:35,020 actually no tort had been offended so no privacy had been offended just because 136 00:12:35,020 --> 00:12:40,640 of that so it's pretty defining again it was a state course not necessarily 137 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,640 supreme course but it's good to pay attention to because it helps know the 138 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:49,920 precedents that needs to be set when shit gets real and if you do want your 139 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:56,060 accounts protected and you do want your emails not viewed by your spouse or not 140 00:12:56,060 --> 00:13:00,460 all the time or whatever you choose to share with them but to protect yourself 141 00:13:01,620 --> 00:13:04,800 I think it's not as big of a deal because usually we don't have one 142 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,960 computer per household anymore many people have their own individual 143 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,940 laptops but just something to keep in mind is that a laptop that many people 144 00:13:11,940 --> 00:13:14,540 in your household use who has access to it 145 00:13:14,540 --> 00:13:14,620 you can't have a computer in your household you can't have a computer in your household 146 00:13:14,620 --> 00:13:19,360 do they have different accounts you know set up on the laptop itself these are 147 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:24,040 all things that to protect yourselves and protect your spouse too you just you 148 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:31,600 don't necessarily know how things end and how they can go bad another good one 149 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:37,720 was for from Michigan it's Lewis versus legrow and so this one's interesting as 150 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:43,360 well sorry it basically involved 151 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:52,840 a relationship of two girlfriends and one boyfriend he had invited them back 152 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:58,820 to the bedroom they had a consensual relations back there plenty of times and 153 00:13:58,820 --> 00:14:03,280 I believe they had a threesome and he recorded it without letting them know he 154 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:10,300 was recording it so the ladies took him to court he argued that because his 155 00:14:10,300 --> 00:14:13,340 bedroom was a private place there was a reasonable expectation that he would be 156 00:14:13,340 --> 00:14:13,480 given a break in his personal privacy and tried to convince him but the court 157 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:14,480 was going to place him on the side of the ladies as a violation of privacy and 158 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:22,520 you'll hear that in these court cases as well so the court actually decided on 159 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:28,100 the side of the ladies because even though it is a private place they're not 160 00:14:28,100 --> 00:14:32,380 necessarily expecting to be recorded in that type of private place that's an 161 00:14:32,380 --> 00:14:38,040 intrusion of privacy even though it is a private area and it is shared so if 162 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:38,520 you've ever 163 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:43,240 had friends or been in a situation where you have been recorded in a bedroom 164 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:48,560 without knowing, whether that's the sex tapes or just undressing or just 165 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:53,320 recorded in general in your bedroom and you're not expecting it, this court case 166 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:59,980 Lewis versus Legros is a good one to point to as far as they ruled that that 167 00:14:59,980 --> 00:15:05,240 is definitely expecting privacy within the bedroom even if you're two 168 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:13,660 consenting adults and I think also that it expanded on this principle because it 169 00:15:13,660 --> 00:15:19,860 was a threesome. The private realm and the menage a trois specifically rejected 170 00:15:19,860 --> 00:15:23,660 the notion whether the parties are living together or estranged as a factor, 171 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,680 so in other words one of these one of the ladies was not living with this 172 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:32,680 couple so it didn't necessarily matter if you're in a relationship, married to 173 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:33,720 them, living with them, 174 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:34,840 they're not 175 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:39,940 not, if they're coming into your bedroom, they're not expecting to be recorded, and a reasonable 176 00:15:39,940 --> 00:15:48,020 person would find that offensive, and that court was able to prove that. Next case I want to talk 177 00:15:48,020 --> 00:15:57,940 about is Cullen versus Cullen in New Jersey, and this had to do with the wife invaded the 178 00:15:57,940 --> 00:16:04,340 defendant's privacy by recording and videotaping his activities, even sexual activities, in their 179 00:16:04,340 --> 00:16:11,480 home. The key to distinctive factor here is she was recording it while in his office, in the home 180 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:19,300 office, so it was not necessarily a private area, and I do believe she won that, and yeah, they held 181 00:16:19,300 --> 00:16:25,860 the wife's video surveillance, even though it was in their marital home, and did not constitute an 182 00:16:25,860 --> 00:16:32,100 evasion of the husband's privacy due to being in a more public room of the household, so something 183 00:16:32,100 --> 00:16:34,320 else to keep in mind from a video surveillance. 184 00:16:34,340 --> 00:16:41,280 You don't know who's recording what, where. If you're going to do stuff that you would like private, make sure 185 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:46,960 you're in a private place in the safety of your own home and that there is a reasonable expectation of 186 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:59,700 privacy and that you would be able to prove that. So key takeaways from those court cases is the biggest 187 00:16:59,700 --> 00:17:04,320 factor here is intrusion upon seclusion. And the manifesto of the case is that there is a lot of 188 00:17:04,340 --> 00:17:12,180 manifestation of an expectation of privacy. So what that means is if you do have to go to court for these types of 189 00:17:12,180 --> 00:17:23,380 instances, you have to show or manifest an expectation of privacy, like the lady's going into the bedroom. The 190 00:17:23,380 --> 00:17:28,580 bedroom is a private place. You go there to dress and undress, you go there to sleep, you go there to not be 191 00:17:28,580 --> 00:17:34,100 bothered. Whereas the guy who had the computer in the 192 00:17:34,340 --> 00:17:39,880 sunroom, you can't really say that's private if family traffic is coming in and out and everyone is using that 193 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:48,460 computer. So the biggest takeaways are don't share passwords and accounts. If you have a history of 194 00:17:48,460 --> 00:17:55,500 recording activities in a private area, because, you know, that's you and your spouse's hobby or not 195 00:17:55,500 --> 00:18:01,540 spouse, and it's consensual, make sure it's consensual and they know that it's being recorded. And 196 00:18:01,540 --> 00:18:04,320 just because you did it with someone who consented doesn't mean that you're going to be in a private place. 197 00:18:04,340 --> 00:18:10,760 It doesn't mean everyone who comes and engages in those activities is consenting. So consent is a big one on that. 198 00:18:11,300 --> 00:18:19,060 And then if the area is visited by multiple parties, that's probably not a private place. It's not going to hold up in 199 00:18:19,060 --> 00:18:24,180 court. So where we have the office, we're obviously a little bit more private, right? Not all your guests are probably 200 00:18:24,180 --> 00:18:31,820 going to come into your home office, but people do come in there outside of just the owners of the home. And the 201 00:18:31,820 --> 00:18:33,920 sunroom example as well. 202 00:18:34,340 --> 00:18:42,720 So I'll just repeat those again. Don't share passwords and accounts. If you have a history of recording in private areas, make sure all 203 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:52,340 parties are consenting to that recording. And if the area is visited by multiple parties outside of the people in the 204 00:18:52,340 --> 00:19:02,700 relationship, that's not considered a private area, at least in the eyes of the court in most cases. The rest of the half of this talk is 205 00:19:02,700 --> 00:19:04,020 just talking just basic 206 00:19:04,340 --> 00:19:13,980 security measures you can take to protect yourself in the case that you're in a relationship and you want some more privacy for 207 00:19:13,980 --> 00:19:26,480 yourself. Just good old common knowledge to not get hacked. And then also sometimes you find yourself in relationships that are 208 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:33,880 a little aggressive or abusive, and these are some ways to help. So big one is phone settings. 209 00:19:34,340 --> 00:19:41,580 First and foremost, right? Pretty basic. So turn off location setting features on apps as much as you can. Great example of that 210 00:19:41,580 --> 00:19:50,560 is Uber likes to track your GPS location all the time, not even when you're using apps. Might not be the best app for grabbing 211 00:19:50,560 --> 00:20:01,680 a cab in that case. Being able to block and filter numbers. Having a remote wipe feature. Make sure you have phone lock and code. 212 00:20:01,980 --> 00:20:04,320 I know where this is a hacker community here, but you'll also have done an important job with it, right? There's nothing quite in 213 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:10,500 I can't tell you how many of my, you know, Midwestern grandma's friends don't do that. 214 00:20:12,820 --> 00:20:17,320 And I think that's something they need to start doing and be aware of to protect themselves. 215 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,060 And disable file and media sharing. 216 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:25,680 Again, going back to sharing of accounts, so if you share an iCloud account and you're 217 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,080 sharing pictures that way, well, in the eyes of the court, you're sharing some type of 218 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,940 account, they can take you to court and say, well, yeah, I did have the right to snoop 219 00:20:33,940 --> 00:20:34,680 through your e-mail. 220 00:20:34,780 --> 00:20:38,420 We're sharing accounts elsewhere and sharing media files. 221 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,240 Not that it will hold up. 222 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,040 Just that that's evidence of, you know, you've done it before. 223 00:20:49,060 --> 00:20:55,680 When you're at home, if you feel like your network could possibly, you know, pick up 224 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:01,360 your network traffic, you could use a VPN enabled while on a wireless network is probably 225 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:02,280 the best anyway. 226 00:21:03,300 --> 00:21:03,820 Also. 227 00:21:03,820 --> 00:21:10,340 On your mobile device, if you're at a coffee shop, just some helpful hints, you know, you 228 00:21:10,340 --> 00:21:15,340 have open VPN where you can VPN back into your home network or you can use a paid service. 229 00:21:17,420 --> 00:21:19,700 And additionally, there's helpful apps. 230 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:26,860 So if you are in a more threatening environment from a domestic standpoint, secure messaging 231 00:21:26,860 --> 00:21:31,880 apps like Signal or Crypto Cat are really great, and even if you do have spyware installed 232 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:32,600 on your phone. 233 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,600 They're not necessarily able to go in there and decrypt those type of messaging apps. 234 00:21:37,140 --> 00:21:41,480 Depends on the spyware and rootkit that's put on there. 235 00:21:43,100 --> 00:21:48,760 You can do apps that can so your text messages are in calls like Vault or Shady Contacts. 236 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,460 So it obfuscates who you're talking to. 237 00:21:52,180 --> 00:21:56,460 And then decoy apps, which I think are every parent's favorite thing right now. 238 00:21:57,220 --> 00:22:00,220 Conceal data in other apps and do, like, remote lock. 239 00:22:00,540 --> 00:22:02,580 An example of that is an app called Prey. 240 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,380 Where it looks like a certain app, you go in, you know, it has a whole bunch of different 241 00:22:06,380 --> 00:22:13,480 files and other apps that look like a baseball scoring game but not really at all. 242 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:14,780 It's like a messaging app. 243 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,580 And we did want to talk privacy and social media. 244 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:23,540 This is going to depend. 245 00:22:23,700 --> 00:22:26,900 There's so much different social media that everybody uses. 246 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,440 So biggest one is turn off geolocation filters. 247 00:22:31,220 --> 00:22:32,400 Knowing how to manage. 248 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:33,420 Who sees your content. 249 00:22:34,020 --> 00:22:35,520 Review of the privacy settings. 250 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,800 That are even the advanced settings. 251 00:22:38,980 --> 00:22:41,000 Security settings in general. 252 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,420 And the notifications for multiple logins. 253 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,940 Multiple browser sessions and how to kill those. 254 00:22:47,420 --> 00:22:49,240 And two factor authentication. 255 00:22:51,580 --> 00:22:56,900 And then for keeping online activity private in general, obviously two factor authentication 256 00:22:57,100 --> 00:23:00,020 or unique and complex passwords. 257 00:23:00,460 --> 00:23:01,580 Auto deleting. 258 00:23:01,580 --> 00:23:03,260 Deleting your history and cookies in your browser. 259 00:23:04,700 --> 00:23:06,720 You can also do Tor. 260 00:23:07,900 --> 00:23:09,040 Just delete me. 261 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:16,060 Which is saves you time by providing direct links for canceling numerous Internet sites. 262 00:23:16,380 --> 00:23:18,180 So Google door canes a little harder to do. 263 00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:21,220 Do privacy mode in your browser. 264 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,660 I know a lot of this is basic. 265 00:23:23,140 --> 00:23:25,360 And this community is really aware of that. 266 00:23:25,620 --> 00:23:28,040 But so many people don't know this. 267 00:23:28,700 --> 00:23:30,820 So many of my friends don't know this. 268 00:23:30,820 --> 00:23:31,980 Until it's too late. 269 00:23:32,420 --> 00:23:33,980 Or they're in a bad situation. 270 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:40,660 And DuckDuckGo is a search browser. 271 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,060 Not browser. 272 00:23:42,220 --> 00:23:42,400 Jesus. 273 00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:43,560 Search engine. 274 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,720 It doesn't save your searches. 275 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,380 It also doesn't sell your searches. 276 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,500 Like Google or Yahoo does. 277 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:50,880 So that's a great one. 278 00:23:51,060 --> 00:23:53,000 Even though like sometimes it's frustrating. 279 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,700 Disconnect me is another one. 280 00:23:55,860 --> 00:24:00,800 It lets you visualize and block sites that track your content. 281 00:24:00,820 --> 00:24:02,700 Block your search and browsing history. 282 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,040 And again, for online activity private, I mentioned a bunch of VPN clients. 283 00:24:08,340 --> 00:24:12,320 Like hide my ass, tunnel bear, open VPNs, that one's free. 284 00:24:12,780 --> 00:24:20,260 And then for the more technically inclined, I would recommend tails if they're super wanting 285 00:24:20,260 --> 00:24:21,540 to dive into that world. 286 00:24:21,860 --> 00:24:24,340 And if you don't know, that's a live OS. 287 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,000 And you can put it on almost any computer. 288 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:30,800 Just sitting on top of your normal OS. 289 00:24:30,820 --> 00:24:34,240 With a DVD, USB stick or SD card. 290 00:24:34,660 --> 00:24:39,980 And it's a Debian based Linux distribution aimed at preserving privacy and it has Tor 291 00:24:39,980 --> 00:24:40,520 built in. 292 00:24:41,980 --> 00:24:43,520 It's a fun one if you haven't used it. 293 00:24:44,340 --> 00:24:51,620 And then I did want to talk about if your laptop and stuff is in private areas, make 294 00:24:51,620 --> 00:24:52,240 sure it's locked. 295 00:24:52,340 --> 00:24:53,360 Make sure it has a passcode. 296 00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:56,560 Otherwise that reasonable expectation of privacy might not be there. 297 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,160 Encrypting your laptop's hard drive. 298 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,760 So when someone does try to install it. 299 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,040 Or install spyware or rootkit. 300 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,700 They need that additional password notification to do so. 301 00:25:06,740 --> 00:25:08,120 Covering up webcams. 302 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,080 And then backing up your data. 303 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,100 And change default passwords on hardware. 304 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:21,320 So those are just some cyber security techniques for the home for people who might not be ridiculously 305 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,300 technically inclined. 306 00:25:24,220 --> 00:25:27,520 And I was going to talk specifically about some surveillance technologies. 307 00:25:28,020 --> 00:25:29,960 So ways you can be surveilled. 308 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:36,140 You can have spyware or and that can just go for your camera. 309 00:25:36,340 --> 00:25:39,800 You can go for audio where it can record it and save it for later. 310 00:25:41,340 --> 00:25:42,600 Content created apps. 311 00:25:42,740 --> 00:25:47,960 So going after like your snapchat and going to twitter and being able to pull that data. 312 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:48,800 Key logger. 313 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,040 Password finders. 314 00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:51,360 GPS tracking. 315 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,180 Phone and text filtering where it can even send phone and text for you. 316 00:25:56,460 --> 00:25:59,620 I know for this community like none of this is a shocker. 317 00:25:59,620 --> 00:26:05,440 But I talked to some of my friends who really just use their phone to take pictures and 318 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:05,900 snapchat. 319 00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:07,300 And a lot of this is like what? 320 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,900 I didn't know people could do that. 321 00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:16,080 So in general spyware gathers info about a person without their knowledge. 322 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,520 And I just had a couple examples here. 323 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:27,620 So for as low as $20 a month mspy you can block someone's incoming calls and by predefined 324 00:26:27,620 --> 00:26:28,240 numbers. 325 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,860 Monitor their content apps again like any kind of social media. 326 00:26:32,140 --> 00:26:34,560 And you know use their GPS location. 327 00:26:36,540 --> 00:26:39,700 There's also spy era and that can listen on your phone calls. 328 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,240 Everything else that's happening near the smartphone and record it for later. 329 00:26:44,660 --> 00:26:45,900 It tracks text. 330 00:26:46,220 --> 00:26:48,280 It uploads copies of the photos you take. 331 00:26:48,940 --> 00:26:54,820 It spies on conversations held through other apps such as Skype and Viber and WeChat. 332 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,400 And it logs everything you type. 333 00:26:56,500 --> 00:26:57,640 So it's a key logger as well. 334 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,380 And even uses the camera to spy on you physically. 335 00:27:00,740 --> 00:27:04,960 And I think you can grab that for about $400 to $500 a device that you're going to install 336 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:05,360 it on. 337 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:11,180 So I mean if someone wants to truly be malicious and they live with you, that's not too much 338 00:27:11,180 --> 00:27:16,080 of a hefty price to start tracking people, your significant other, if you're a little 339 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,180 paranoid that they're on dating sites or if they're talking to people. 340 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,240 And then for key loggers I'm going to talk about Spirix key logger. 341 00:27:25,340 --> 00:27:25,860 It's free. 342 00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:27,180 It screenshots. 343 00:27:27,180 --> 00:27:31,880 It screenshots the active programs on the computer at intervals and it reports the programs 344 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,780 that are running back to the person who installed it. 345 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:39,400 That's a big deal if you're living together and you're separated and someone gets a little 346 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:39,900 jealous. 347 00:27:40,300 --> 00:27:42,640 You know, like, oh, fuck, they're unmatched.com. 348 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,860 It can be pretty aggressive really fast when they're finding out that kind of information 349 00:27:46,860 --> 00:27:48,360 and you're already in a bad situation. 350 00:27:50,020 --> 00:27:55,360 A fun one I found was it's actually advertised as a backup data recovery software. 351 00:27:55,360 --> 00:28:02,500 It's DDI utilities and you can download the old program, remote send it if you know the 352 00:28:02,500 --> 00:28:08,080 phone number you want it to track and just with a few simple commands you have full root 353 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:08,820 on that phone. 354 00:28:09,980 --> 00:28:15,080 You're able to track everything and I think it's only $70 and, yeah, it's definitely 355 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:20,060 advertised as a backup data recovery software and, yes, it does that, too, but it tells 356 00:28:20,060 --> 00:28:23,940 you everything that's happening on that phone because it does that and I thought that one 357 00:28:23,940 --> 00:28:24,520 was really fun. 358 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:25,480 Not fun. 359 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:26,960 Because it's a remote connect. 360 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,180 That one's a little scary to find. 361 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,360 And I did want to talk about the dangers of parental controls. 362 00:28:37,940 --> 00:28:42,340 You can have net nanny for your kids, but if you're in the middle of a separation or 363 00:28:42,340 --> 00:28:44,640 a nasty divorce, that can totally be used against you. 364 00:28:45,420 --> 00:28:50,300 If you're not familiar with net nanny, that controls and access what someone's viewing 365 00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:53,260 from anywhere, anytime, using any device. 366 00:28:53,540 --> 00:28:55,340 You get alerts when they're attempting to do something. 367 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,680 If they download a certain something or if they're going to a certain website, bam, you 368 00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,480 get pinged right away. 369 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:06,540 Another one is iPhone spy stick and it's just plugged into a USB port. 370 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,320 It downloads all the web history, emails, text messages, even the deleted text messages. 371 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,920 This one I thought was interesting. 372 00:29:14,060 --> 00:29:15,100 It's the iPhone dock camera. 373 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:22,800 So you think that you're just charging your device, but actually it's recording video 374 00:29:23,140 --> 00:29:24,200 that's going on in the room. 375 00:29:24,260 --> 00:29:25,280 And it has a voice. 376 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,940 It's a voice-activated audio monitor. 377 00:29:27,260 --> 00:29:32,860 A lot of parents use these tools to monitor their kids and their online activities, but 378 00:29:32,860 --> 00:29:37,360 you can totally use it for your spouse or someone that you live with, too, under the 379 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,580 premise that it's for the kids. 380 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,200 Pretty interesting. 381 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:46,120 And then just one more on that for the parental controls is mobile spy, and that's software 382 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:51,980 that allows the user to follow a phone in real time, geographic location, and see online 383 00:29:51,980 --> 00:29:52,420 activity. 384 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,100 So a lot of these have similar features. 385 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:55,260 I don't know. 386 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,140 I'm not sure. 387 00:29:56,140 --> 00:29:58,080 But each one is a little different. 388 00:30:01,460 --> 00:30:09,460 Just some basic surveillance detection techniques if you think your mobile device is possibly 389 00:30:09,460 --> 00:30:09,980 compromised. 390 00:30:11,060 --> 00:30:12,900 These are just some quick physical ones. 391 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,640 Are you getting battery loss a lot quicker than you have been? 392 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,640 Is it overheating all the time? 393 00:30:19,220 --> 00:30:23,140 You can go in and check your phone settings and look at the permissions that the apps 394 00:30:23,140 --> 00:30:23,540 are doing. 395 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:24,880 So maybe a new app's on there. 396 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:30,940 Maybe you're not necessarily paying attention to how many people download not named brand 397 00:30:30,940 --> 00:30:31,700 photo apps. 398 00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:37,280 I'd say that's a big one, or at least for a lot of my friends it was, where I'm like, 399 00:30:37,380 --> 00:30:39,200 oh, that looks pretty shady, man. 400 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,820 Where did you get that app and where did you download it? 401 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,000 Let's see what it has access to. 402 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:53,360 And then for anything that's like a net nanny or a content filtering, you can usually just 403 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,860 pick up the apps. 404 00:30:54,860 --> 00:30:59,320 The computer processes in order to detect the internet filters and content control software. 405 00:31:01,620 --> 00:31:06,900 Depending on what the software is, or if you think it's a certain software, you can usually 406 00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:10,220 just kind of Google what computer process to look for. 407 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,100 For a net nanny specifically, I think it's an Orcaware process. 408 00:31:13,340 --> 00:31:19,120 You can go in there and kill it to bypass that for that session anyway. 409 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,200 And then there's also spyware detection software specifically. 410 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,220 And anti-rootkit scans. 411 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,940 For spyware detection software, I think Norton Power Eraser, Byte Defender rootkit removal, 412 00:31:33,220 --> 00:31:36,760 Kaspersky has a pretty good anti-key logger under their security scan. 413 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,320 And then Malwarebytes has a free anti-rootkit. 414 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,140 So at least there's one product that's free. 415 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:51,760 The biggest mitigation techniques for getting rootkit and spyware installed is actually 416 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,040 keeping the software up to date. 417 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,740 And I know we hear that a thousand times, but a lot of these rootkits or spyware that's 418 00:31:57,740 --> 00:32:02,240 installed is specific to a certain OS, a certain version and below. 419 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:09,660 As the iOS or OS gets updated, those software programs have to get updated, too, in order 420 00:32:09,660 --> 00:32:10,200 to be effective. 421 00:32:12,380 --> 00:32:17,860 Read those end user license agreements when you're picking up apps and seeing what that's 422 00:32:17,860 --> 00:32:20,360 really asking for. 423 00:32:21,340 --> 00:32:22,400 I don't do it. 424 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,500 But you could do a quick search. 425 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,220 I do it sometimes, depending on the app. 426 00:32:27,780 --> 00:32:34,400 But also two factor authentication is a big one for your device, your bank accounts, your 427 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,540 e-mail, anything where you're going to house significant personal privacy data, you should 428 00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:41,440 really look at doing two factor authentication. 429 00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:47,500 I've heard some security friends say, oh, I hate doing that because we share Amazon 430 00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:47,900 accounts. 431 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,460 And when I do two factor authentication, they're not necessarily next to my phone. 432 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,560 And it's just all sorts of red right there. 433 00:32:57,020 --> 00:33:00,820 And maintaining personal accounts, how many people live together and share a Netflix, 434 00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:02,700 Hulu or Amazon account? 435 00:33:02,980 --> 00:33:07,020 Well, what other information is in those accounts that you're letting your spouse or significant 436 00:33:07,020 --> 00:33:08,400 other have access to? 437 00:33:09,540 --> 00:33:14,180 Pretty sure it's tied to your bank account information, your e-mail, different addresses 438 00:33:14,180 --> 00:33:15,260 you're shipping stuff to. 439 00:33:15,420 --> 00:33:20,340 So actually a lot of personal data, you might even be using it on a business side so then 440 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,380 that significant other has access. 441 00:33:22,380 --> 00:33:23,840 Access to some of your business information. 442 00:33:25,260 --> 00:33:28,200 Try and parse off separate accounts for that. 443 00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:33,260 Like Hulu and Netflix, you can make, you know, a separate account that they'll log 444 00:33:33,260 --> 00:33:33,520 into. 445 00:33:33,740 --> 00:33:39,460 Amazon, I think they have a feature now where it's like a shared household and you can have 446 00:33:39,460 --> 00:33:40,020 another account. 447 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,300 However, with the Amazon one, they do not separate the banking information. 448 00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:47,100 So watch out for on that one to be aware of. 449 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,200 I mention those because most people who live together, those are pretty common to share. 450 00:33:53,660 --> 00:33:55,540 At least people I know. 451 00:33:56,500 --> 00:34:00,820 Lock your devices, encrypt your hard drive so installation of new software is hard. 452 00:34:01,180 --> 00:34:05,400 And again, I'm just going to say it one more time, don't share passwords and if it comes 453 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,760 worse to worse for spyware or rootkit, you know, back up your data as best you can and 454 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,040 factory reset of devices. 455 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,300 That'll get that off there. 456 00:34:14,020 --> 00:34:18,720 And since I don't have a slide up, I'm just going to go over some of the bigger resources. 457 00:34:19,500 --> 00:34:20,160 I think, yeah. 458 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,560 Violet Blue has a great book. 459 00:34:22,740 --> 00:34:26,460 It's called Smart Girls Guide to Privacy and Practical Tips for Staying Safe Online. 460 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:27,860 That one's great. 461 00:34:28,260 --> 00:34:29,600 I highly recommend that. 462 00:34:29,720 --> 00:34:36,460 I think it's a free ebook on a Kindle account or if you just want to buy it, I think it's 463 00:34:36,460 --> 00:34:38,680 like between five and ten bucks. 464 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,300 I think she's even doing a book signing here at DEF CON. 465 00:34:41,500 --> 00:34:43,080 I can't remember if that happened today or yesterday. 466 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,180 But it is really awesome. 467 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,840 There's also hackblossom.org. 468 00:34:49,260 --> 00:34:50,140 Domestic-violet.com. 469 00:34:50,140 --> 00:34:54,100 And I was going to show you some screenshots of that particular site. 470 00:34:54,220 --> 00:34:58,460 I thought it was really great because there's not a comprehensive guide how to secure yourself 471 00:34:58,460 --> 00:35:01,220 online that I've really found outside of that. 472 00:35:01,580 --> 00:35:09,020 And so they even have a quick exit button in case you are in a really aggressive environment 473 00:35:09,020 --> 00:35:14,000 and you need to do that and get out of the browser quickly because they just walked in 474 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:14,380 the room. 475 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,180 So I thought that was a really nice feature. 476 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,980 So they have different threat scenarios. 477 00:35:19,980 --> 00:35:24,860 And it's like my partners harassing me through my cell phone, harassing me through social 478 00:35:24,860 --> 00:35:30,620 media, stalking my location, surveilling my online activity, et cetera, et cetera. 479 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,180 And they do a pretty nice little overview walkthrough. 480 00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:40,400 It's just a nice resource that I thought was online and comprehensive. 481 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:47,460 And then some great organizations out there such as Crash Override Network. 482 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,840 They have a pretty... 483 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,580 It's not super comprehensive, but they have some definite resources of how to protect 484 00:35:53,580 --> 00:35:56,820 yourself online, especially when you're talking like abusive relationships. 485 00:35:59,660 --> 00:36:04,460 But their main focus for Crash Override is online harassment. 486 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:09,760 So you'll see a lot of bullying sites and a lot of information about being cyber-bullied. 487 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:14,220 But when you're living with someone, it's a whole other level because you're expecting 488 00:36:14,940 --> 00:36:18,140 calls from them, so you can't necessarily block their number, especially if you both 489 00:36:18,140 --> 00:36:18,660 have kids. 490 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,060 That might be an emergency situation. 491 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,180 So anyway, Crash Override for online bullying. 492 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:35,200 Also, the National Network to End Domestic Violence had some really good resources for 493 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,440 those that would need help. 494 00:36:36,540 --> 00:36:39,820 And another organization called Next Door. 495 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:47,100 And I think Next Door offered support groups, even temporary housing solutions and self-sufficiency 496 00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:47,640 programs. 497 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:53,240 To help some people feel really powerless in these situations because as the victim, 498 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,540 you have to change your life so much usually, not the other way around. 499 00:36:58,820 --> 00:37:04,420 And as far as I said, I talked to laws by state that are different for privacy. 500 00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:07,100 So victimsofcrime.org. 501 00:37:07,340 --> 00:37:08,460 You can get in there. 502 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,960 And it actually is kind of under their stalking laws because when you're talking domestic 503 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,320 surveillance, that's probably where you're going to go first. 504 00:37:16,620 --> 00:37:17,000 Okay. 505 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,840 So any questions? 506 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,480 Sorry for the lack of slides and me looking down. 507 00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:26,480 Any questions at all? 508 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:28,800 Sure. 509 00:37:28,980 --> 00:37:31,120 I think there's a mic up here if you want. 510 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,160 Good job presenting without your slides. 511 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:36,240 Thanks. 512 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,180 Yeah, thanks. 513 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,980 This is such an important time for me. 514 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:47,160 I'm going to go back to the topic. 515 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,280 But this is good enough attention. 516 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,580 My question specifically is do you have any counter surveillance recommendations for the 517 00:37:54,580 --> 00:37:59,160 crucial juncture where somebody is first leaving an abusive domestic situation and they need 518 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,400 to escape to some other place? 519 00:38:00,740 --> 00:38:03,620 The surveillance of course would typically be able to track you if it's on your phone, 520 00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:07,280 but your phone is often going to be your lifeline to all of your other support networks. 521 00:38:07,460 --> 00:38:10,680 So do you have any recommendations for that specific crucial juncture and time? 522 00:38:11,340 --> 00:38:11,740 Yeah. 523 00:38:11,780 --> 00:38:16,980 For that crucial juncture and time, I don't have personal experience with that. 524 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:25,880 But from everything I've seen on a resource is doing that first outreach usually to a 525 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,080 trusted friend or organization. 526 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:36,360 And the biggest thing is have somewhere to go and have some stuff set up there from a 527 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,900 surveillance and tracking your phone. 528 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:46,080 At that point, I personally anyway would leave my phone somewhere and get a burner while 529 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:46,980 you're doing that. 530 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,280 So that's one of the things that I would do. 531 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,260 And then the other thing that I would do is start making your own accounts. 532 00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:58,080 And like say you're sharing Amazon or email, because some people do share email, start 533 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:02,600 making your own accounts and making that defined moment for yourself and not tying 534 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,500 it to the other individual that you will be separating from. 535 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,600 Because you can at least in a court situation show, hey, from this date, we knew we were 536 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,640 separating and here is the proof of when that stuff was created. 537 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:22,220 So from a law perspective, you'll be covered there from a domestic violence because I think 538 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:29,420 that's a really scary situation is you really have to work with the organizations and friends 539 00:39:29,420 --> 00:39:32,300 that will be able to support you, get you away from that situation. 540 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,440 You usually have almost like a safe house, I guess is the nicest way to say it, or safe 541 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:44,840 space you can go to to get ready to jump ship and you like cut lifelines in a way from 542 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:50,460 the other individual as best you can and don't share your location and new contact 543 00:39:50,460 --> 00:39:55,000 information and make sure all of your close friends and relatives know that as well. 544 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,580 That's the best advice I have for that situation. 545 00:39:59,780 --> 00:40:02,200 I'm not a professional in that category in any means. 546 00:40:03,140 --> 00:40:07,220 But everything I've read, that would be my ultimate recommendation. 547 00:40:08,180 --> 00:40:09,260 Any other questions? 548 00:40:09,460 --> 00:40:09,820 Sure. 549 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,360 Do you have a place where this brief is? 550 00:40:13,620 --> 00:40:14,580 Like an URL? 551 00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:14,820 Yeah. 552 00:40:14,820 --> 00:40:15,720 Do you have a place where it's going to be available? 553 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,420 I don't at the moment. 554 00:40:17,580 --> 00:40:18,920 I can totally do that. 555 00:40:19,900 --> 00:40:21,480 I'll throw it up on my Twitter later. 556 00:40:21,820 --> 00:40:24,900 I'll probably put it on LinkedIn share slides. 557 00:40:25,420 --> 00:40:27,620 So my Twitter is, yeah, I guess you can't see that either. 558 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:35,540 Lauren K. Rucker, and it's L-A-U-R-E-N-K-R-U-C-K-E-R, sorry, it's all together. 559 00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:39,960 It doesn't have any weird spelling, so yeah, Lauren K. Rucker. 560 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,740 And I'll be sure to put that link on there and I'll pin it so you guys can see it for 561 00:40:43,740 --> 00:40:44,100 a little bit. 562 00:40:44,820 --> 00:40:44,920 Yeah. 563 00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:50,780 What's the expectation of privacy that children should have from parents, like adolescents 564 00:40:50,780 --> 00:40:51,640 and teenagers? 565 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,080 What can they expect as their reasonable privacy that parents should violate? 566 00:40:57,740 --> 00:41:03,960 Yeah, I think I kept hitting on or running across that as I was doing a lot of research 567 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:14,020 for this talk, and currently at this time, from a law perspective, it's really at the 568 00:41:14,020 --> 00:41:14,800 discretion of the parents. 569 00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:21,360 Since they are the parent and guardian, if a child is 18 and under, unfortunately, law 570 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:26,300 has not caught up with the reasonable expectation of privacy when it comes to children. 571 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:32,920 So that's why things like Net Nanny, which are mass advertised, and a lot of these parental 572 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:39,620 control softwares and internet filtering that you see is really scary and perfectly legal 573 00:41:40,090 --> 00:41:44,800 to purchase due to the fact law hasn't defined a child's privacy. 574 00:41:44,820 --> 00:41:51,820 I think possibly the defining moment is to, I think, to have like a Facebook or Snapchat, 575 00:41:52,060 --> 00:41:54,500 a lot of those laws if you're 13 and under. 576 00:41:57,220 --> 00:42:02,820 Privacy as far as your parent's concerned doesn't necessarily exist. 577 00:42:03,340 --> 00:42:08,100 Privacy from other individuals outside of your family is a different story and ultimately 578 00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:11,060 pretty protected from that perspective. 579 00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:12,020 Does that answer your question? 580 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,020 Oh, okay. 581 00:42:15,140 --> 00:42:15,780 Any others? 582 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:19,040 Cool. 583 00:42:19,300 --> 00:42:19,660 All right. 584 00:42:19,660 --> 00:42:21,280 Well, thank you so much for coming to my talk. 585 00:42:22,020 --> 00:42:22,420 .