Everybody, sorry about that. The wiring gods were really not smiling on us right now. I blame
VGA as I have for about the last 40 years. Welcome to Crypto Privacy Village. Thank you for
being here. I've got another great talk lined up and we've got Lauren Rucker who's going to be
talking about privacy within a relationship. Let's talk about you and me. Give it up for Lauren.
No one's adapters seem to be working. So fuck it. We're doing it live. You'll see me look down a
lot because I can't see my slides to the right and see where I'm at. So I apologize for that. I had
an awesome salt and pepper talking about, let's talk about you and me. Let's talk about all the
good things and the bad things that may be. So half this talk is going to talk more on privacy
law and the other half is going to talk on privacy mitigation techniques.
Especially specifically like spyware. So first thing I wanted to cover was a brief history of
your privacy rights. So in case you don't know the background on that, the right to privacy was
a Harvard Law Review article and it was published in 1890 and it ended up coming about because of
the invention of the Kodak cameras and two lawyers at the time were just really concerned with
how invasive that privacy was. So I'm going to talk a little bit more about that. I'm going to
talk a little bit more about that. I'm going to talk a little bit more about that. So the first thing
I wanted to cover was that people's pictures could be taken and distributed and generally how it
would weaken the right of peoples and their privacy and private lives as it could be published
in the newspapers. So they ended up writing a pretty long article published in Harvard Law
Review and from that came what we mainly use now as the right to privacy from a law perspective.
Okay, so the first part is about invading privacy. These are the four torts or ways that you will
infringe on someone's privacy. And the four torts are intrusion upon seclusion, and I'll talk
through each of these really quickly. Appropriation, publication of private facts, and false light.
So the biggest thing that this talk is going to hit on is intrusion upon seclusion. So if you're
living with someone or you're in a relationship or marriage with someone, the biggest you're giving
up a lot of privacy. But if you're willing to pay the price you're going to pay for privacy. And
lot of your privacy rights because you're sharing so much with that person anyway. So intrusion upon
seclusion is intentionally intruding physically or otherwise upon the solitude or seclusion of
another of his private affairs or concerns. And if the intrusion would be highly offensive to a
reasonable person. So you'll see language like that in these privacy torts where it's really gray
and what's defining a reasonable person. And a lot of that's up to the court. And I'll go through
some of the Supreme Court cases that have helped define this when you're talking privacy rights
in a marriage. There's also publication of private facts. So a lot of that has to do with
if someone puts revenge porn on websites. And so that is protected by law. False light where
you're having slander if you're a public figure. And again, we're going to talk about what defines
highly offensive to a reasonable person.
Oops. So next up is our, if they're up there, basically our bigger federal laws that help talk to
privacy. And that's the Federal Wiretap Act, Stored Communications Act, Computer Fraud and Abuse Act,
and the 14th Amendment really helped touch on this subject and kind of cut through the gray.
So wiretap obviously, I'm sure you guys are familiar, but protects interception or access to
personal communications. And so that's supposed to protect personal communications. And so that's
protecting people accessing your data, your telephone taps, your access to the internet, and are they
monitoring it. And then with Stored Communications Act, that's protecting the computer and online
accounts from unauthorized access and how that data is stored. And it also addresses voluntary
disclosure, so stored, wired, and electronic communications and the records that are being held
by the ISP.
So that's why it's called the Stored Communications Act.
Internet Service Writers themselves. Or Internet Service Writers, excuse me.
For the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, that's a really overarching act. But in this case it's talking about
prohibiting access, unauthorized access to somebody's account, or a computer. And not, you know, walking
into other people's accounts.
Because that's talking about right to people being secure in their persons, houses, papers, or effects.
But when you're talking about privacy within a relationship, a lot of that is shared.
So the amendment, as far as a constitutional right,
it's actually the 14th amendment that defines a lot of these further laws
when you're talking individual rights to privacy when you are legally bound.
So I'm just going to, I had it up here, but just so you know the language a little bit.
No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States,
nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law,
nor deny any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
So enforcing these privacy torts is really where the 14th amendment comes in
in order to protect yourself and your individual privacy.
So I'm going to talk about some famous Supreme Court cases that have helped define this.
The biggest one, going back in time and coming forward,
is the Union Pacific Railway Company in Botsford, actually.
And this was back in, I think, the 1890s.
And so that basically had to do with individuals' right to privacy
and making sure that that was a constitutional amendment
and defining the law.
finding that, I think at that point, no right is held more sacred or is more carefully guarded
by the common law than the right of every individual to the possession and control of his
own person, free from all restraint and interference of others. And so that particular
case helped define and solidify that privacy was part of U.S. constitutional rights and for their
U.S. citizens. So another famous case is the Einstatt versus Barrett, and that safeguarded a
single person's access to contraception. So that whole court case was about defining if you were
single or you were married and your access to contraception, and what came out of that was
both single and married people.
People should have access to contraception and be able to make that choice for themselves.
It is the right of the individual to make that type of choice. And so even if they're married,
they should be able to choose. So I know we're touching a little bit on abortion. You'll see
that in these cases. I'll bring up abortion laws a little bit or contraception or reproduction.
But that's a lot of the battles that do make it to the Supreme Court case in order to help define.
So the next one is Roe v.
Wade. This was a big, obviously abortion, heavy, like mainly focusing on that and was really
paramount. But again, it legalized abortion and then protected the woman's reproductive choice
within the marriage. So again, protecting their privacy to make a choice. And so that's the main
takeaway from these court cases is I'm not talking reproductive rights today, but the privacy to make
a choice. And these are some of the Supreme Court cases.
That help you see the background as to why you should have online privacy as well.
And then we have Lawrence v. Texas. And this had to do with a Texas stature that was criminalizing
different sexual acts by consenting gay couples. And it overturned a lot of anti-sodomy laws.
And it actually set the work.
Groundwork for decriminalization of a lot of adultery laws that were still withheld in a lot of states as well.
I think about 20 states still had those type of laws. And so it outlawed most of the time these criminal
sodomy laws passed over half the states and outlawed all forms of like sexual expression between persons of the same sex.
So it was targeting them specifically.
So this particular case of Lawrence v. Texas put the choice back to the individual and their private matters back to the individual.
And that you couldn't go to jail just for having sex with who you wanted to have sex with.
That that was a choice. And that is your private choice to do so.
And then for the most recent one is in 2012 we had United States v. Jones.
And that had to do with installing a GPS tracking device.
They were actually, this one has to do with a drug ring more than anything, but basically
the government put a tracking device on this guy's wife's car and they had a warrant to
do so, but they had to do so within 10 days and I think they had to do so within, I think
it was the District of Columbia, so DC, that's a very small geographic area.
So they didn't install the device until 11 days, so the warrant had expired to do so
and they also installed it in Maryland.
So basically what came out of that is the data was not used in the court case for that
drug ring and it confirmed that to do GPS location and get that data on someone and
collect on that, you have to have a warrant to do so, otherwise it doesn't hold water
in court.
And we're talking a lot about law and court here because privacy in a relationship, you
know, if you want to know your rights, you kind of have to know the law and what has
helped define that.
So a lot of the state cases as well, and state by state has different rules on what you can
or can't collect or some of them just have gray areas, so I'll have a resource at the
end that I'll say out loud and it has a great comprehensive website, like state by state,
to get you started.
If you're truly interested in that.
And when I was talking to a couple of my friends that do practice law, the biggest people they
pointed me to for their state is it's going to be by state and it's going to be divorce
lawyers, usually know that stuff way better because when things get nasty, that's where
people don't like to share as much sometimes.
So for state cases, this is a big one, it's white versus white and this was in New Jersey.
So basically white versus white.
What happened with here is the guy was kind of staying in the sunroom, the family computer
was also used in the sunroom, family kids, husband and wife, would all log in and use
it
The wife saw a letter addressed to the guy's girlfriend supposedly laying out, so she
took him to court for divorce and it was a pretty nasty custody case.
What came out of that though?
It's.
It's.
the computer was in a shared use space and it wasn't unreasonable for people to
view or have access to his shared files on the computer and his email that
actually no tort had been offended so no privacy had been offended just because
of that so it's pretty defining again it was a state course not necessarily
supreme course but it's good to pay attention to because it helps know the
precedents that needs to be set when shit gets real and if you do want your
accounts protected and you do want your emails not viewed by your spouse or not
all the time or whatever you choose to share with them but to protect yourself
I think it's not as big of a deal because usually we don't have one
computer per household anymore many people have their own individual
laptops but just something to keep in mind is that a laptop that many people
in your household use who has access to it
you can't have a computer in your household you can't have a computer in your household
do they have different accounts you know set up on the laptop itself these are
all things that to protect yourselves and protect your spouse too you just you
don't necessarily know how things end and how they can go bad another good one
was for from Michigan it's Lewis versus legrow and so this one's interesting as
well sorry it basically involved
a relationship of two girlfriends and one boyfriend he had invited them back
to the bedroom they had a consensual relations back there plenty of times and
I believe they had a threesome and he recorded it without letting them know he
was recording it so the ladies took him to court he argued that because his
bedroom was a private place there was a reasonable expectation that he would be
given a break in his personal privacy and tried to convince him but the court
was going to place him on the side of the ladies as a violation of privacy and
you'll hear that in these court cases as well so the court actually decided on
the side of the ladies because even though it is a private place they're not
necessarily expecting to be recorded in that type of private place that's an
intrusion of privacy even though it is a private area and it is shared so if
you've ever
had friends or been in a situation where you have been recorded in a bedroom
without knowing, whether that's the sex tapes or just undressing or just
recorded in general in your bedroom and you're not expecting it, this court case
Lewis versus Legros is a good one to point to as far as they ruled that that
is definitely expecting privacy within the bedroom even if you're two
consenting adults and I think also that it expanded on this principle because it
was a threesome. The private realm and the menage a trois specifically rejected
the notion whether the parties are living together or estranged as a factor,
so in other words one of these one of the ladies was not living with this
couple so it didn't necessarily matter if you're in a relationship, married to
them, living with them,
they're not
not, if they're coming into your bedroom, they're not expecting to be recorded, and a reasonable
person would find that offensive, and that court was able to prove that. Next case I want to talk
about is Cullen versus Cullen in New Jersey, and this had to do with the wife invaded the
defendant's privacy by recording and videotaping his activities, even sexual activities, in their
home. The key to distinctive factor here is she was recording it while in his office, in the home
office, so it was not necessarily a private area, and I do believe she won that, and yeah, they held
the wife's video surveillance, even though it was in their marital home, and did not constitute an
evasion of the husband's privacy due to being in a more public room of the household, so something
else to keep in mind from a video surveillance.
You don't know who's recording what, where. If you're going to do stuff that you would like private, make sure
you're in a private place in the safety of your own home and that there is a reasonable expectation of
privacy and that you would be able to prove that. So key takeaways from those court cases is the biggest
factor here is intrusion upon seclusion. And the manifesto of the case is that there is a lot of
manifestation of an expectation of privacy. So what that means is if you do have to go to court for these types of
instances, you have to show or manifest an expectation of privacy, like the lady's going into the bedroom. The
bedroom is a private place. You go there to dress and undress, you go there to sleep, you go there to not be
bothered. Whereas the guy who had the computer in the
sunroom, you can't really say that's private if family traffic is coming in and out and everyone is using that
computer. So the biggest takeaways are don't share passwords and accounts. If you have a history of
recording activities in a private area, because, you know, that's you and your spouse's hobby or not
spouse, and it's consensual, make sure it's consensual and they know that it's being recorded. And
just because you did it with someone who consented doesn't mean that you're going to be in a private place.
It doesn't mean everyone who comes and engages in those activities is consenting. So consent is a big one on that.
And then if the area is visited by multiple parties, that's probably not a private place. It's not going to hold up in
court. So where we have the office, we're obviously a little bit more private, right? Not all your guests are probably
going to come into your home office, but people do come in there outside of just the owners of the home. And the
sunroom example as well.
So I'll just repeat those again. Don't share passwords and accounts. If you have a history of recording in private areas, make sure all
parties are consenting to that recording. And if the area is visited by multiple parties outside of the people in the
relationship, that's not considered a private area, at least in the eyes of the court in most cases. The rest of the half of this talk is
just talking just basic
security measures you can take to protect yourself in the case that you're in a relationship and you want some more privacy for
yourself. Just good old common knowledge to not get hacked. And then also sometimes you find yourself in relationships that are
a little aggressive or abusive, and these are some ways to help. So big one is phone settings.
First and foremost, right? Pretty basic. So turn off location setting features on apps as much as you can. Great example of that
is Uber likes to track your GPS location all the time, not even when you're using apps. Might not be the best app for grabbing
a cab in that case. Being able to block and filter numbers. Having a remote wipe feature. Make sure you have phone lock and code.
I know where this is a hacker community here, but you'll also have done an important job with it, right? There's nothing quite in
I can't tell you how many of my, you know, Midwestern grandma's friends don't do that.
And I think that's something they need to start doing and be aware of to protect themselves.
And disable file and media sharing.
Again, going back to sharing of accounts, so if you share an iCloud account and you're
sharing pictures that way, well, in the eyes of the court, you're sharing some type of
account, they can take you to court and say, well, yeah, I did have the right to snoop
through your e-mail.
We're sharing accounts elsewhere and sharing media files.
Not that it will hold up.
Just that that's evidence of, you know, you've done it before.
When you're at home, if you feel like your network could possibly, you know, pick up
your network traffic, you could use a VPN enabled while on a wireless network is probably
the best anyway.
Also.
On your mobile device, if you're at a coffee shop, just some helpful hints, you know, you
have open VPN where you can VPN back into your home network or you can use a paid service.
And additionally, there's helpful apps.
So if you are in a more threatening environment from a domestic standpoint, secure messaging
apps like Signal or Crypto Cat are really great, and even if you do have spyware installed
on your phone.
They're not necessarily able to go in there and decrypt those type of messaging apps.
Depends on the spyware and rootkit that's put on there.
You can do apps that can so your text messages are in calls like Vault or Shady Contacts.
So it obfuscates who you're talking to.
And then decoy apps, which I think are every parent's favorite thing right now.
Conceal data in other apps and do, like, remote lock.
An example of that is an app called Prey.
Where it looks like a certain app, you go in, you know, it has a whole bunch of different
files and other apps that look like a baseball scoring game but not really at all.
It's like a messaging app.
And we did want to talk privacy and social media.
This is going to depend.
There's so much different social media that everybody uses.
So biggest one is turn off geolocation filters.
Knowing how to manage.
Who sees your content.
Review of the privacy settings.
That are even the advanced settings.
Security settings in general.
And the notifications for multiple logins.
Multiple browser sessions and how to kill those.
And two factor authentication.
And then for keeping online activity private in general, obviously two factor authentication
or unique and complex passwords.
Auto deleting.
Deleting your history and cookies in your browser.
You can also do Tor.
Just delete me.
Which is saves you time by providing direct links for canceling numerous Internet sites.
So Google door canes a little harder to do.
Do privacy mode in your browser.
I know a lot of this is basic.
And this community is really aware of that.
But so many people don't know this.
So many of my friends don't know this.
Until it's too late.
Or they're in a bad situation.
And DuckDuckGo is a search browser.
Not browser.
Jesus.
Search engine.
It doesn't save your searches.
It also doesn't sell your searches.
Like Google or Yahoo does.
So that's a great one.
Even though like sometimes it's frustrating.
Disconnect me is another one.
It lets you visualize and block sites that track your content.
Block your search and browsing history.
And again, for online activity private, I mentioned a bunch of VPN clients.
Like hide my ass, tunnel bear, open VPNs, that one's free.
And then for the more technically inclined, I would recommend tails if they're super wanting
to dive into that world.
And if you don't know, that's a live OS.
And you can put it on almost any computer.
Just sitting on top of your normal OS.
With a DVD, USB stick or SD card.
And it's a Debian based Linux distribution aimed at preserving privacy and it has Tor
built in.
It's a fun one if you haven't used it.
And then I did want to talk about if your laptop and stuff is in private areas, make
sure it's locked.
Make sure it has a passcode.
Otherwise that reasonable expectation of privacy might not be there.
Encrypting your laptop's hard drive.
So when someone does try to install it.
Or install spyware or rootkit.
They need that additional password notification to do so.
Covering up webcams.
And then backing up your data.
And change default passwords on hardware.
So those are just some cyber security techniques for the home for people who might not be ridiculously
technically inclined.
And I was going to talk specifically about some surveillance technologies.
So ways you can be surveilled.
You can have spyware or and that can just go for your camera.
You can go for audio where it can record it and save it for later.
Content created apps.
So going after like your snapchat and going to twitter and being able to pull that data.
Key logger.
Password finders.
GPS tracking.
Phone and text filtering where it can even send phone and text for you.
I know for this community like none of this is a shocker.
But I talked to some of my friends who really just use their phone to take pictures and
snapchat.
And a lot of this is like what?
I didn't know people could do that.
So in general spyware gathers info about a person without their knowledge.
And I just had a couple examples here.
So for as low as $20 a month mspy you can block someone's incoming calls and by predefined
numbers.
Monitor their content apps again like any kind of social media.
And you know use their GPS location.
There's also spy era and that can listen on your phone calls.
Everything else that's happening near the smartphone and record it for later.
It tracks text.
It uploads copies of the photos you take.
It spies on conversations held through other apps such as Skype and Viber and WeChat.
And it logs everything you type.
So it's a key logger as well.
And even uses the camera to spy on you physically.
And I think you can grab that for about $400 to $500 a device that you're going to install
it on.
So I mean if someone wants to truly be malicious and they live with you, that's not too much
of a hefty price to start tracking people, your significant other, if you're a little
paranoid that they're on dating sites or if they're talking to people.
And then for key loggers I'm going to talk about Spirix key logger.
It's free.
It screenshots.
It screenshots the active programs on the computer at intervals and it reports the programs
that are running back to the person who installed it.
That's a big deal if you're living together and you're separated and someone gets a little
jealous.
You know, like, oh, fuck, they're unmatched.com.
It can be pretty aggressive really fast when they're finding out that kind of information
and you're already in a bad situation.
A fun one I found was it's actually advertised as a backup data recovery software.
It's DDI utilities and you can download the old program, remote send it if you know the
phone number you want it to track and just with a few simple commands you have full root
on that phone.
You're able to track everything and I think it's only $70 and, yeah, it's definitely
advertised as a backup data recovery software and, yes, it does that, too, but it tells
you everything that's happening on that phone because it does that and I thought that one
was really fun.
Not fun.
Because it's a remote connect.
That one's a little scary to find.
And I did want to talk about the dangers of parental controls.
You can have net nanny for your kids, but if you're in the middle of a separation or
a nasty divorce, that can totally be used against you.
If you're not familiar with net nanny, that controls and access what someone's viewing
from anywhere, anytime, using any device.
You get alerts when they're attempting to do something.
If they download a certain something or if they're going to a certain website, bam, you
get pinged right away.
Another one is iPhone spy stick and it's just plugged into a USB port.
It downloads all the web history, emails, text messages, even the deleted text messages.
This one I thought was interesting.
It's the iPhone dock camera.
So you think that you're just charging your device, but actually it's recording video
that's going on in the room.
And it has a voice.
It's a voice-activated audio monitor.
A lot of parents use these tools to monitor their kids and their online activities, but
you can totally use it for your spouse or someone that you live with, too, under the
premise that it's for the kids.
Pretty interesting.
And then just one more on that for the parental controls is mobile spy, and that's software
that allows the user to follow a phone in real time, geographic location, and see online
activity.
So a lot of these have similar features.
I don't know.
I'm not sure.
But each one is a little different.
Just some basic surveillance detection techniques if you think your mobile device is possibly
compromised.
These are just some quick physical ones.
Are you getting battery loss a lot quicker than you have been?
Is it overheating all the time?
You can go in and check your phone settings and look at the permissions that the apps
are doing.
So maybe a new app's on there.
Maybe you're not necessarily paying attention to how many people download not named brand
photo apps.
I'd say that's a big one, or at least for a lot of my friends it was, where I'm like,
oh, that looks pretty shady, man.
Where did you get that app and where did you download it?
Let's see what it has access to.
And then for anything that's like a net nanny or a content filtering, you can usually just
pick up the apps.
The computer processes in order to detect the internet filters and content control software.
Depending on what the software is, or if you think it's a certain software, you can usually
just kind of Google what computer process to look for.
For a net nanny specifically, I think it's an Orcaware process.
You can go in there and kill it to bypass that for that session anyway.
And then there's also spyware detection software specifically.
And anti-rootkit scans.
For spyware detection software, I think Norton Power Eraser, Byte Defender rootkit removal,
Kaspersky has a pretty good anti-key logger under their security scan.
And then Malwarebytes has a free anti-rootkit.
So at least there's one product that's free.
The biggest mitigation techniques for getting rootkit and spyware installed is actually
keeping the software up to date.
And I know we hear that a thousand times, but a lot of these rootkits or spyware that's
installed is specific to a certain OS, a certain version and below.
As the iOS or OS gets updated, those software programs have to get updated, too, in order
to be effective.
Read those end user license agreements when you're picking up apps and seeing what that's
really asking for.
I don't do it.
But you could do a quick search.
I do it sometimes, depending on the app.
But also two factor authentication is a big one for your device, your bank accounts, your
e-mail, anything where you're going to house significant personal privacy data, you should
really look at doing two factor authentication.
I've heard some security friends say, oh, I hate doing that because we share Amazon
accounts.
And when I do two factor authentication, they're not necessarily next to my phone.
And it's just all sorts of red right there.
And maintaining personal accounts, how many people live together and share a Netflix,
Hulu or Amazon account?
Well, what other information is in those accounts that you're letting your spouse or significant
other have access to?
Pretty sure it's tied to your bank account information, your e-mail, different addresses
you're shipping stuff to.
So actually a lot of personal data, you might even be using it on a business side so then
that significant other has access.
Access to some of your business information.
Try and parse off separate accounts for that.
Like Hulu and Netflix, you can make, you know, a separate account that they'll log
into.
Amazon, I think they have a feature now where it's like a shared household and you can have
another account.
However, with the Amazon one, they do not separate the banking information.
So watch out for on that one to be aware of.
I mention those because most people who live together, those are pretty common to share.
At least people I know.
Lock your devices, encrypt your hard drive so installation of new software is hard.
And again, I'm just going to say it one more time, don't share passwords and if it comes
worse to worse for spyware or rootkit, you know, back up your data as best you can and
factory reset of devices.
That'll get that off there.
And since I don't have a slide up, I'm just going to go over some of the bigger resources.
I think, yeah.
Violet Blue has a great book.
It's called Smart Girls Guide to Privacy and Practical Tips for Staying Safe Online.
That one's great.
I highly recommend that.
I think it's a free ebook on a Kindle account or if you just want to buy it, I think it's
like between five and ten bucks.
I think she's even doing a book signing here at DEF CON.
I can't remember if that happened today or yesterday.
But it is really awesome.
There's also hackblossom.org.
Domestic-violet.com.
And I was going to show you some screenshots of that particular site.
I thought it was really great because there's not a comprehensive guide how to secure yourself
online that I've really found outside of that.
And so they even have a quick exit button in case you are in a really aggressive environment
and you need to do that and get out of the browser quickly because they just walked in
the room.
So I thought that was a really nice feature.
So they have different threat scenarios.
And it's like my partners harassing me through my cell phone, harassing me through social
media, stalking my location, surveilling my online activity, et cetera, et cetera.
And they do a pretty nice little overview walkthrough.
It's just a nice resource that I thought was online and comprehensive.
And then some great organizations out there such as Crash Override Network.
They have a pretty...
It's not super comprehensive, but they have some definite resources of how to protect
yourself online, especially when you're talking like abusive relationships.
But their main focus for Crash Override is online harassment.
So you'll see a lot of bullying sites and a lot of information about being cyber-bullied.
But when you're living with someone, it's a whole other level because you're expecting
calls from them, so you can't necessarily block their number, especially if you both
have kids.
That might be an emergency situation.
So anyway, Crash Override for online bullying.
Also, the National Network to End Domestic Violence had some really good resources for
those that would need help.
And another organization called Next Door.
And I think Next Door offered support groups, even temporary housing solutions and self-sufficiency
programs.
To help some people feel really powerless in these situations because as the victim,
you have to change your life so much usually, not the other way around.
And as far as I said, I talked to laws by state that are different for privacy.
So victimsofcrime.org.
You can get in there.
And it actually is kind of under their stalking laws because when you're talking domestic
surveillance, that's probably where you're going to go first.
Okay.
So any questions?
Sorry for the lack of slides and me looking down.
Any questions at all?
Sure.
I think there's a mic up here if you want.
Good job presenting without your slides.
Thanks.
Yeah, thanks.
This is such an important time for me.
I'm going to go back to the topic.
But this is good enough attention.
My question specifically is do you have any counter surveillance recommendations for the
crucial juncture where somebody is first leaving an abusive domestic situation and they need
to escape to some other place?
The surveillance of course would typically be able to track you if it's on your phone,
but your phone is often going to be your lifeline to all of your other support networks.
So do you have any recommendations for that specific crucial juncture and time?
Yeah.
For that crucial juncture and time, I don't have personal experience with that.
But from everything I've seen on a resource is doing that first outreach usually to a
trusted friend or organization.
And the biggest thing is have somewhere to go and have some stuff set up there from a
surveillance and tracking your phone.
At that point, I personally anyway would leave my phone somewhere and get a burner while
you're doing that.
So that's one of the things that I would do.
And then the other thing that I would do is start making your own accounts.
And like say you're sharing Amazon or email, because some people do share email, start
making your own accounts and making that defined moment for yourself and not tying
it to the other individual that you will be separating from.
Because you can at least in a court situation show, hey, from this date, we knew we were
separating and here is the proof of when that stuff was created.
So from a law perspective, you'll be covered there from a domestic violence because I think
that's a really scary situation is you really have to work with the organizations and friends
that will be able to support you, get you away from that situation.
You usually have almost like a safe house, I guess is the nicest way to say it, or safe
space you can go to to get ready to jump ship and you like cut lifelines in a way from
the other individual as best you can and don't share your location and new contact
information and make sure all of your close friends and relatives know that as well.
That's the best advice I have for that situation.
I'm not a professional in that category in any means.
But everything I've read, that would be my ultimate recommendation.
Any other questions?
Sure.
Do you have a place where this brief is?
Like an URL?
Yeah.
Do you have a place where it's going to be available?
I don't at the moment.
I can totally do that.
I'll throw it up on my Twitter later.
I'll probably put it on LinkedIn share slides.
So my Twitter is, yeah, I guess you can't see that either.
Lauren K. Rucker, and it's L-A-U-R-E-N-K-R-U-C-K-E-R, sorry, it's all together.
It doesn't have any weird spelling, so yeah, Lauren K. Rucker.
And I'll be sure to put that link on there and I'll pin it so you guys can see it for
a little bit.
Yeah.
What's the expectation of privacy that children should have from parents, like adolescents
and teenagers?
What can they expect as their reasonable privacy that parents should violate?
Yeah, I think I kept hitting on or running across that as I was doing a lot of research
for this talk, and currently at this time, from a law perspective, it's really at the
discretion of the parents.
Since they are the parent and guardian, if a child is 18 and under, unfortunately, law
has not caught up with the reasonable expectation of privacy when it comes to children.
So that's why things like Net Nanny, which are mass advertised, and a lot of these parental
control softwares and internet filtering that you see is really scary and perfectly legal
to purchase due to the fact law hasn't defined a child's privacy.
I think possibly the defining moment is to, I think, to have like a Facebook or Snapchat,
a lot of those laws if you're 13 and under.
Privacy as far as your parent's concerned doesn't necessarily exist.
Privacy from other individuals outside of your family is a different story and ultimately
pretty protected from that perspective.
Does that answer your question?
Oh, okay.
Any others?
Cool.
All right.
Well, thank you so much for coming to my talk.
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