WEBVTT 00:06.720 --> 00:11.700 Welcome to the awards ceremony for the Space Security Challenge 2020, or HACCASAT. 00:11.700 --> 00:13.800 I'm your host, Jordan Wines. 00:14.660 --> 00:18.380 Instead of teasing you like last time, let's get right to the results. 00:18.380 --> 00:26.040 We closed the scoreboard yesterday, just before the game's end, and there were multiple solves that occurred after the scoreboard went dark. 00:26.040 --> 00:27.800 How did that impact the rankings? 00:27.920 --> 00:32.000 Our top three winners of prizes are... 01:30.240 --> 01:46.500 Congratulations to our top prize winning teams, PFS for taking home the $50,000 grand prize, Poland Can Into Space, who definitely can, for their $30,000 prize, and hopefully an epic moonshot we'll see later in the broadcast, and Flux Repeat Rocket for their $20,000 01:46.500 --> 01:47.380 prize. 01:47.420 --> 01:56.260 We know the technical challenges these teams faced in this event were unlike any they've seen before, and we're glad to be able to reward them with hard-earned prizes for their efforts. 01:56.700 --> 02:02.780 However, as you may remember, the on-orbit section was one of the most important goals of the competition. 02:02.780 --> 02:05.180 It's one of the things that made this event special. 02:05.180 --> 02:13.460 We needed a way to incentivize teams, and making the on-orbit challenge pass or fail for prize eligibility was one of the most effective ways to do that. 02:13.460 --> 02:14.700 Space is unique. 02:14.700 --> 02:17.920 No one person is an expert in all of its aspects. 02:17.920 --> 02:23.040 We wanted to ensure that the CTF and hacking community grew in their capabilities relevant to space. 02:23.040 --> 02:26.820 The on-orbit portion required an expertise in math that is unique. 02:26.840 --> 02:30.820 Of course, this being in 2020, our worst fears came to reality. 02:30.820 --> 02:37.300 The highest scoring team was one of those impacted negatively by not having an on-orbit solution in time. 02:37.300 --> 02:39.320 Let's take a look at the final scoreboard. 02:39.320 --> 02:43.440 And you can see those scores that I mentioned occurring after the scoreboard went dark. 02:43.440 --> 02:48.820 They were by SolarWine, one of two teams that did not have an accepted solution for the on-orbit challenge. 02:48.820 --> 02:52.520 And thus, unfortunately, they're ineligible for the final prize pool. 02:53.480 --> 03:01.860 However, the HackASAT organizers all feel for the impact that this had on SolarWine, and we hope they can take pride in several notable accomplishments. 03:02.080 --> 03:17.260 First, while there has not been an announced HackASAT 2 edition, I would personally expect that if such an event occurred, much in the DEFCON CTF tradition, the highest scoring team from the previous finals would automatically qualify for the next event. 03:17.260 --> 03:18.900 And that would be SolarWine. 03:19.000 --> 03:24.800 Second, the official scoreboard submitted to CTF Time will reflect the points total at the end of the game. 03:24.800 --> 03:30.400 As on-orbit was merely for prize eligibility, we expect it will not impact standings on CTF Time. 03:30.680 --> 03:34.400 Finally, I want to describe some of the drama that happened at the end of the day yesterday. 03:34.440 --> 03:38.820 Most teams were running low on power and needed to be taken off the carousel. 03:38.820 --> 03:44.440 SolarWine was one of only two teams that stayed online and they were able to capitalize on it. 03:44.440 --> 03:57.200 Not only did they successfully solve Challenge 4, which required a ton of work building a custom bootloader to re-enable GPIO on the payload module, but additionally, they blazed ahead and solved Challenge 5 just before the competition closed as well. 03:57.200 --> 03:58.980 Now there were two ways to solve in Challenge 5. 03:58.980 --> 04:05.060 A lower scoring option of just taking any photo, and a higher scoring option of taking a photo of the moon in the room. 04:05.120 --> 04:11.200 SolarWine quickly snapped a photo to prove they could control a camera, and they tried to properly orient for a different photo. 04:11.500 --> 04:21.440 They don't even know it, but their last commands relayed to the satellite two minutes before the game ended, took a photo that they never got to see as the game ended, and we're going to show it to them now. 04:22.420 --> 04:26.900 As you can see, the moon is visible there on the left, just to the right of the logos. 04:27.400 --> 04:36.740 So, while they did not successfully get this final photo back in time before the game ended, they now know that they did achieve success in all of the Earth-based goals that we laid out for them. 04:37.380 --> 04:42.260 Thanks again, SolarWine, for pushing so hard, continuing through the discouraging result of yesterday. 04:42.680 --> 04:50.300 And, of course, speaking of that on-orbit challenge, I know we are all, and especially Poland Canada Space, looking forward to seeing the results. 04:50.300 --> 04:51.900 For that, we're going to go to Dr. 04:51.900 --> 04:55.100 Roper and Brett, whom you will remember from their keynote earlier in the event. 04:55.120 --> 04:55.400 Dr. 04:55.400 --> 04:58.640 Roper is the Air Force and Space Force Acquisition Chief, and Mr. 04:58.640 --> 05:01.460 Brett Goldstein is the Director of the Defense Digital Service. 05:01.560 --> 05:03.380 Gentlemen, can you hear me? 05:05.700 --> 05:07.040 Yes, we can, Jordan. 05:07.040 --> 05:08.040 You can hear me, and I can hear you. 05:08.040 --> 05:08.940 That's the important part. 05:08.940 --> 05:09.820 Take it away. 05:11.080 --> 05:12.020 Awesome. 05:12.020 --> 05:19.680 Jordan, thanks so much to you and the entire team that worked so hard to put on this event and keep everything moderated. 05:19.680 --> 05:27.900 And just a huge hats off to everyone who has participated in this inaugural foray of space into DEF CON. 05:27.900 --> 05:29.720 And Brett and I were talking earlier. 05:29.720 --> 05:35.100 We are just blown away by how far the community has come in just a few short weeks. 05:35.100 --> 05:36.760 We've made our own progress here. 05:36.760 --> 05:39.440 We have solved the lanyard challenge. 05:39.440 --> 05:43.140 So by just merely taking off the case, you can actually attach this. 05:43.140 --> 05:44.660 So problem solved. 05:44.960 --> 05:49.640 But the progress that has been made by these teams is much more impressive. 05:49.720 --> 06:05.260 And what I just left away is that this combination of needing to know orbital mechanics, antenna physics, as well as just good, solid hacking skills is going to create some of the most interesting challenges for future DEF CONs to come. 06:05.260 --> 06:06.540 Brett, what do you think? 06:06.540 --> 06:11.620 So my big question is, is this the second episode of Between Two Nerds? 06:11.620 --> 06:13.200 Part five. 06:13.200 --> 06:14.440 Part five. 06:14.820 --> 06:17.840 Or do you think we'll get syndicated? 06:17.840 --> 06:18.460 Maybe. 06:18.920 --> 06:21.300 Zombies in space, we're ahead of the game. 06:21.300 --> 06:22.220 We are. 06:22.220 --> 06:28.880 And as I think about my future in DOD, I'm also thinking about my future in TV. 06:28.880 --> 06:33.840 Or this could be Meet the Nerds. 06:33.860 --> 06:36.060 There's a lot of potential here. 06:36.140 --> 06:38.240 We'll hold on to our day jobs, though. 06:38.240 --> 06:38.900 Okay. 06:38.900 --> 06:44.600 Well, I just feel like I'm getting a lot of encouragement to get into this realm. 06:44.820 --> 06:48.460 But anyhow, so DEF CON has been awesome. 06:48.460 --> 06:53.360 So for everyone listening out there, great, great year. 06:53.360 --> 07:02.280 And I think about last year, and I think about all that we did when Will and I went for the first time, and the fact that we got DOD out there. 07:02.320 --> 07:03.440 And so proud. 07:03.440 --> 07:05.940 And a couple things stand out for me. 07:05.940 --> 07:07.400 But one of them's funny. 07:07.400 --> 07:10.500 So I had never been on Discord before. 07:10.500 --> 07:23.820 And y'all may be using Discord all the time, but isn't there something counterintuitive about you log on to Discord, and then it sends you this random-ass link that you're supposed to click? 07:23.820 --> 07:25.420 Like, this is DEF CON. 07:25.420 --> 07:28.360 So super surprised by that. 07:28.600 --> 07:33.300 So I had to call up my friend Roro, and I'm like, hey dude, do I click the link? 07:33.300 --> 07:35.960 And he's like, well, I guess so. 07:35.960 --> 07:36.880 Click. 07:37.020 --> 07:39.860 So hopefully that wasn't a bad click. 07:39.860 --> 07:58.160 But on a more serious note, what was really special about our efforts with Air Force and DDS is, in our first day of doing everything, we had more traffic and more interactions than we did through the entire DEF CON last year. 07:58.160 --> 08:05.980 Which is insane, because, like, for all the folks from the team who did DEF CON last year, we were slammed. 08:05.980 --> 08:12.300 So the fact that we saw those sorts of interactions means we really got our act together this year. 08:12.420 --> 08:16.620 Virtual was awesome for us, and we're glad we were able to engage. 08:16.620 --> 08:20.500 But Will, Hackisfat, what do you think? 08:20.580 --> 08:23.600 Well, Brett, amazing success. 08:23.600 --> 08:27.100 Amazing the amount of community that was able to be involved. 08:27.100 --> 08:29.700 And the feedback has been fantastic. 08:30.300 --> 08:35.160 Overwhelmingly, people saying, I never knew that space was really accessible to me. 08:35.160 --> 08:38.060 Were the equipments affordable, given my day job? 08:38.060 --> 08:41.080 And that's amazing to introduce that to this community. 08:41.220 --> 08:48.600 So we had over, almost 13,000 people came to the Hackisfat website this year. 08:48.600 --> 08:52.640 Almost 5,000 people came in through the VR site. 08:52.640 --> 09:02.880 And over 130,000 social media views, which just tells me space is super interesting and something that's just been beyond grasp and hopefully seems a little more so now. 09:02.880 --> 09:08.040 And for the teams that were part of our quals, we were super excited in your interest. 09:08.040 --> 09:16.240 And for the teams who made it in the final, we're blown away by how quickly you adapted to these very difficult challenges. 09:16.240 --> 09:17.640 And I think we picked them right. 09:17.640 --> 09:20.780 They were solvable, but not easily so. 09:20.780 --> 09:23.320 And so to everyone involved, hats off. 09:23.320 --> 09:27.940 And especially just want to give a shout out to SolarWind, the top overall score. 09:27.940 --> 09:33.520 I mean, kudos to you for sticking at it, for coming back and continuing to improve what you did. 09:33.520 --> 09:36.560 For PFS, congratulations on being the top winner. 09:36.560 --> 09:40.700 And again, just putting a lot of amazing solutions on the board. 09:40.700 --> 09:42.640 And Poland can into space. 09:42.640 --> 09:48.520 You stated your goal was to get into space, and you did with your moonshot that we'll come to in a second. 09:48.520 --> 09:51.560 And I don't want to leave Flux Repeat Rocket out. 09:51.560 --> 09:58.720 Coming in, getting that 20K prize, putting up amazing tech across all these different challenges. 09:58.720 --> 10:01.000 We're just really proud of all of you. 10:01.000 --> 10:06.920 But what we wanted to end with is the Cyber Moonshot, which was more than just the name. 10:06.920 --> 10:24.600 Taking control of the satellite that is orbiting, having to restore normal operations after they've been disabled, having to understand orbital mechanics well enough to point a satellite that's meant to take a picture of the Earth to something that's 385,000 10:24.600 --> 10:34.320 kilometers away and successfully get an image through what is very much a soda straw is a wicked hard challenge. 10:34.320 --> 10:40.100 But DEFCON and our first satellite, HackASAT Challenge, needed no less than that. 10:40.100 --> 10:45.060 And so I am pleased to announce that Poland can into space. 10:45.060 --> 10:46.220 You can. 10:46.400 --> 10:50.120 Let's roll the video for your Cyber Moonshot. 12:57.460 --> 13:01.320 All right, on screen is the Moonshot for everyone to see. 13:11.440 --> 13:13.980 All right, back to you, Brett and Dr. 13:13.980 --> 13:14.740 Roper. 13:16.060 --> 13:20.700 I think that video gives you a sense about how hard this challenge was. 13:20.700 --> 13:24.520 So for Poland can into space, how awesome is that? 13:24.520 --> 13:32.620 We're super proud of what you and what every participant accomplished this week in HackASAT and the Moonshot Challenge itself. 13:32.620 --> 13:38.700 Brett, that wasn't all that was going on in the aerospace village and particularly components dealing with space. 13:39.060 --> 13:43.600 True, but before we go there, so orbital mechanics. 13:43.600 --> 13:50.560 So if you were to define orbital mechanics, what would you say, asking for a friend? 13:51.120 --> 13:55.380 You're going to need a basic knowledge of Kepler's laws of motion. 13:55.380 --> 14:04.580 Everything's moving around in either an ellipse, a circle, a parabola, or a hyperbola, or a line, I guess, technically, to give the degenerate case. 14:04.580 --> 14:06.060 So you need to know that stuff. 14:06.060 --> 14:08.300 You need to be able to model it numerically. 14:08.320 --> 14:12.880 And you also need to understand how to transpose different reference frames. 14:12.940 --> 14:15.800 So other than that, Brett, it's just simple math. 14:15.800 --> 14:20.240 Kepler, degenerate, parabola. 14:20.480 --> 14:21.180 Got it. 14:21.180 --> 14:21.960 All good. 14:21.960 --> 14:23.200 Kepler's your friend in space. 14:23.200 --> 14:23.640 Got it. 14:23.640 --> 14:24.360 Okay. 14:24.360 --> 14:24.940 Kepler. 14:24.940 --> 14:25.900 Got it. 14:25.920 --> 14:27.120 So workshops. 14:27.120 --> 14:29.920 So workshops were awesome this year. 14:29.920 --> 14:34.480 And before we dive into some stats, I want to thank the team. 14:34.560 --> 14:43.080 So the DDS team with our Air Force friends, they work night and day to make all of these streams happen. 14:43.080 --> 14:56.660 And all of the mechanics probably involved a little Kepler, parabola, lines, math, to make all of these different workshops happen on the Twitches. 14:56.660 --> 15:09.620 But in all seriousness, the team has been surging for months to make each one of these as real as possible, to keep it up, work the challenges, deal with drama up until the last minute. 15:09.620 --> 15:11.340 So amazing work. 15:11.340 --> 15:18.040 But we had 11 Twitch streams, and that was awesome from an educational point of view. 15:18.040 --> 15:21.080 But here's a big, big piece. 15:21.120 --> 15:25.640 Our first winner on all of the workshops was a 12-year-old. 15:25.980 --> 15:28.280 The Alpaca Club. 15:28.280 --> 15:33.720 So this 12-year-old out of nowhere came and crushed one of the workshops. 15:33.720 --> 15:51.580 And something as both as a dad, but also as a director of an innovation team, and then looking to one of our goals of training the future, a 12-year-old, again, the Alpaca Club, going and crushing it right off the bat was amazing. 15:51.620 --> 15:53.680 So we have these workshops. 15:53.680 --> 16:04.260 And from a traffic perspective, we're looking at we had over almost 2,500 visitors and 131 winners. 16:04.260 --> 16:06.140 And that is pretty impressive. 16:06.140 --> 16:11.300 But the good news for everyone listening out there is we're still playing today. 16:11.300 --> 16:15.340 So and because everyone likes swag, keep playing. 16:15.340 --> 16:16.420 You win a shirt. 16:16.420 --> 16:17.100 You win. 16:17.100 --> 16:18.240 You win a shirt. 16:18.240 --> 16:19.720 Swag wins. 16:19.800 --> 16:22.720 But these workshops were great. 16:22.720 --> 16:38.320 And one of the goals that Will and I had from the very beginning was have a very hard challenge like HackASet, where people would, you know, start and then it would get to a series of teams and get to the big win, the moonshot. 16:38.360 --> 16:45.220 But we also want to work on training folks with everything from advanced to beginner level types of workshops. 16:45.220 --> 16:48.240 And I feel like we were able to deliver there. 16:48.400 --> 16:49.940 But it was pretty awesome. 16:49.940 --> 16:52.080 I don't know if you won yet, Will. 16:52.620 --> 16:55.040 Well, I think everyone won for this. 16:55.040 --> 17:01.700 You know, it's pretty amazing to see how far just members of our military have come from just a year ago. 17:01.700 --> 17:08.000 So we were there a little over a year ago with an F-15 hacking challenge. 17:08.000 --> 17:13.460 And it really did send a shock across the Pentagon with, wait a second, what are we doing? 17:13.460 --> 17:17.100 You know, cyber vulnerabilities are not things that we're supposed to expose. 17:17.100 --> 17:33.740 And I've seen a huge amount of progress for the organizations I represent, the Air Force and the Space Force, starting to realize that this community is one that we should have been a part of a long time ago, that we have so much to learn from you, and we have learned this week. 17:33.740 --> 17:44.580 And I'm looking forward to doing some debriefs with the teams and just hearing how you approach the challenges and what you think we can do better on, because we're designing satellites and airplanes every day, Brad. 17:44.580 --> 17:48.840 And these lessons we can put directly into new things that we design. 17:48.840 --> 17:58.040 We'd also like to hear how we can be better members of this community, because we're going to be back next year and we can do virtual events, we can do live hacking events. 17:58.040 --> 18:07.840 We want to know how we can make interesting opportunities relevant to our mission, something that really energizes this community where everyone learns. 18:07.840 --> 18:10.820 So Brad, I think we all won with PAKASAT this year. 18:10.820 --> 18:12.460 I think we did too. 18:12.460 --> 18:25.680 And so the past two nights, we've done this drinks with devs, which has been pretty wild, because we just had a horde of our folks and then a bunch of people who have been working on the workshops came in. 18:25.680 --> 18:30.060 And the good news from last night is we had a winner for DDSAT. 18:30.060 --> 18:38.260 So Pina Triste, amazing work, good job, came on the call last night, got the kudos there. 18:38.260 --> 18:41.440 So we've seen winners throughout the stack. 18:42.140 --> 18:44.660 I think this year really went well. 18:44.660 --> 18:48.340 The question is, what do we do next year? 18:48.440 --> 18:52.440 Well, Brad, I have my own ideas and we'll be discussing them for sure. 18:52.440 --> 18:55.700 We could go into AI, we could go into drones. 18:55.780 --> 19:03.400 We could let members of the community make a satellite that we could put up in orbit and maybe you've designed it more cyber secure than the way we do. 19:03.400 --> 19:05.320 But we want to hear from you. 19:05.320 --> 19:08.220 No, we should have been part of this community a long time ago. 19:08.220 --> 19:19.640 And I hope that you'll tell us how we can use opportunities like this so that having military members be part of the DEF CON community is not an unusual thing, but a really cool thing. 19:19.640 --> 19:36.740 So we're going to keep the websites open and we hope that you will share your thoughts with us so that this time next year, hopefully when COVID-19 is behind us and I hope everyone is safe till then, that we can do a live event that's awesome, but continue all the awesomeness that this virtual event has afforded. 19:36.740 --> 19:40.000 We've had so many more people participate. 19:40.160 --> 19:42.960 And Brad, I don't know, maybe we can talk about zombies again next year. 19:43.000 --> 19:45.420 We could have a zombie challenge. 19:45.540 --> 19:50.200 If you can incorporate zombies into the challenge, I think you win. 19:50.780 --> 19:59.200 Because let's face it, Brad, after zombies run over the earth, we may be reliant on members of this community to download critical satellite data to know where they are. 19:59.380 --> 20:01.800 I think we've uncovered something critical. 20:01.800 --> 20:10.720 But in all seriousness, even though everything does in fact come back to zombies, we want to hear from you. 20:10.720 --> 20:13.720 So we have ideas on what is hard. 20:13.720 --> 20:16.800 So the bar was raised really high this year. 20:17.160 --> 20:18.640 What's on your mind? 20:18.640 --> 20:19.920 We're all over Twitter. 20:19.920 --> 20:21.720 We have the HackASAT handle. 20:21.720 --> 20:23.960 We have Defense Digital for DDS. 20:23.960 --> 20:25.520 We have the websites up. 20:25.520 --> 20:27.340 We want to hear from you. 20:27.340 --> 20:29.320 We're still operating on Discord. 20:29.320 --> 20:30.660 We will through the day. 20:30.660 --> 20:37.640 We want to be involved in this community, not just for a few days during the summer, but all year long. 20:37.640 --> 20:42.860 So I personally, and I know Will as well, want to hear your hardest ideas. 20:43.200 --> 20:46.020 Bonus points for zombie interactions. 20:46.400 --> 20:49.520 But, you know, we want to hear them. 20:49.520 --> 20:51.660 Yeah, I get your style points somewhere, Brad. 20:51.660 --> 20:55.200 So Brad, I don't know, from my view, what a successful conclusion. 20:55.200 --> 20:57.100 Again, congrats to all the teams. 20:57.100 --> 21:00.620 Continue learning from the websites that we have up. 21:00.620 --> 21:02.220 Let us hear from you. 21:02.220 --> 21:12.200 And hopefully by this time next year, we'll be on to the next great, amazing Capture the Flag Challenge and the next great set of workshops so that we all get smarter. 21:12.260 --> 21:21.880 So for now, we're signing off from Between Two Nerds, Meet the Nerds, All the Nerds, Some of the Nerds, Nerds Meet Zombies. 21:21.880 --> 21:27.640 But everyone, stay safe, love the interactions this year, and look forward to hearing more from you. 21:27.640 --> 21:28.940 Back to you, Jordan. 21:30.380 --> 21:31.640 Thanks very much, Dr. 21:31.640 --> 21:32.620 Roper and Brett. 21:32.620 --> 21:34.620 From another nerd to two more. 21:34.680 --> 21:39.000 We appreciate your drive for making this event and the many other events related happen. 21:39.120 --> 21:44.820 Additionally, thanks very much to the core four, Amanda, Delia, John, and Steve. 21:44.820 --> 21:48.620 Finally, thanks to you, the audience, for spending your weekend with us. 21:48.620 --> 21:57.900 Stay safe, enjoy the rest of DEFCON, the Aerospace Village, the Defense Digital Service Workshops, and all of the other happenings this weekend.