WEBVTT 00:29.640 --> 00:34.900 Welcome to the awards ceremony for the Space Security Challenge 2020, or HACCASAT. 00:34.900 --> 00:37.060 I'm your host, Jordan Wines. 00:37.600 --> 00:41.640 Instead of teasing you like last time, let's get right to the results. 00:41.640 --> 00:49.280 We closed the scoreboard yesterday, just before the game's end, and there were multiple solves that occurred after the scoreboard went dark. 00:49.280 --> 00:51.060 How did that impact the rankings? 00:51.140 --> 00:54.100 Our top three winners of prizes are... 01:10.060 --> 01:12.800 ♪♪♪ Not your upper brain, you won't be able to hear this. 01:23.560 --> 01:24.120 ♪♪♪ 01:53.770 --> 01:56.930 Congratulations to our top prize-winning teams. 01:56.930 --> 02:10.710 PFS for taking home the $50,000 grand prize, Poland Can Into Space, who definitely can, for their $30,000 prize, and hopefully an epic moonshot we'll see later in the broadcast, and Flux Repeat Rocket for their $20,000 prize. 02:10.770 --> 02:19.490 We know the technical challenges these teams faced in this event were unlike any they've seen before, and we're glad to be able to reward them with hard-earned prizes for their efforts. 02:19.890 --> 02:25.990 However, as you may remember, the on-orbit section was one of the most important goals of the competition. 02:25.990 --> 02:28.430 It's one of the things that made this event special. 02:28.430 --> 02:36.710 We needed a way to incentivize teams and making the on-orbit challenge pass or fail for prize eligibility was one of the most effective ways to do that. 02:36.710 --> 02:37.850 Space is unique. 02:37.850 --> 02:41.070 No one person is an expert in all of its aspects. 02:41.070 --> 02:46.310 We wanted to ensure that the CTF and hacking community grew in their capabilities relevant to space. 02:46.330 --> 02:50.030 The on-orbit portion required an expertise in math that is unique. 02:50.030 --> 02:54.090 Of course, this being in 2020, our worst fears came to reality. 02:54.090 --> 03:00.570 The highest-scoring team was one of those impacted negatively by not having an on-orbit solution in time. 03:00.690 --> 03:02.510 Let's take a look at the final scoreboard. 03:03.350 --> 03:06.710 And you can see those scores that I mentioned occurring after the scoreboard went dark. 03:06.710 --> 03:15.690 They were by SolarWine, one of two teams that did not have an accepted solution for the on-orbit challenge, and thus, unfortunately, they're ineligible for the final prize pool. 03:16.830 --> 03:25.050 However, the HackAsset organizers all feel for the impact that this had on SolarWine, and we hope they can take pride in several notable accomplishments. 03:25.050 --> 03:40.310 First, while there has not been an announced HackAsset 2 edition, I would personally expect that if such an event occurred, much in the DEF CON CTF tradition, the highest-scoring team from the previous finals would automatically qualify for the next event, 03:40.310 --> 03:42.130 and that would be SolarWine. 03:42.130 --> 03:48.050 Second, the official scoreboard submitted to CTF Time will reflect the points total at the end of the game. 03:48.050 --> 03:53.670 As on-orbit was merely for prize eligibility, we expect it will not impact standings on CTF Time. 03:53.670 --> 03:57.650 Finally, I want to describe some of the drama that happened at the end of the day yesterday. 03:57.770 --> 04:02.170 Most teams were running low on power and needed to be taken off the carousel. 04:02.310 --> 04:07.570 SolarWine was one of only two teams that stayed online, and they were able to capitalize on it. 04:07.570 --> 04:20.370 Not only did they successfully solve Challenge 4, which required a ton of work building a custom bootloader to re-enable GPIO on the payload module, but additionally, they blazed ahead and solved Challenge 5 just before the competition closed as well. 04:20.370 --> 04:28.230 Now, there were two ways to solve on Challenge 5, a lower scoring option of just taking any photo, and a higher scoring option of taking a photo of the moon in the room. 04:28.370 --> 04:34.430 SolarWine quickly snapped a photo to prove they could control a camera, and they tried to properly orient for a different photo. 04:34.650 --> 04:44.690 They don't even know it, but their last commands relayed to the satellite two minutes before the game ended, took a photo that they never got to see as the game ended, and we're going to show it to them now. 04:45.650 --> 04:50.150 As you can see, the moon is visible there on the left just to the right of the logos. 04:50.150 --> 04:59.990 So, while they did not successfully get this final photo back in time before the game ended, they now know that they did achieve success in all of the Earth-based goals that we laid out for them. 05:00.630 --> 05:05.490 Thanks again, SolarWine, for pushing so hard, continuing through the discouraging result of yesterday. 05:05.830 --> 05:13.530 And of course, speaking of that on-orbit challenge, I know we are all, and especially Poland Canada Space, looking forward to seeing the results. 05:13.550 --> 05:15.150 For that, we're going to go to Dr. 05:15.150 --> 05:18.310 Roper and Brett, whom you will remember from their keynote earlier in the event. 05:18.310 --> 05:18.650 Dr. 05:18.650 --> 05:21.890 Roper is the Air Force and Space Force Acquisition Chief, and Mr. 05:21.890 --> 05:24.750 Brett Goldstein is the Director of the Defense Digital Service. 05:24.790 --> 05:26.690 Gentlemen, can you hear me? 05:29.050 --> 05:30.050 Yes, we can, Jordan. 05:30.050 --> 05:31.270 You can hear me, and I can hear you. 05:31.270 --> 05:32.150 That's the important part. 05:32.150 --> 05:32.990 Take it away. 05:34.370 --> 05:35.250 Awesome. 05:35.310 --> 05:42.730 Jordan, thanks so much to you and the entire team that worked so hard to put on this event and keep everything moderated. 05:42.730 --> 05:51.150 And just a huge hats off to everyone who has participated in this inaugural foray of space into DEF CON. 05:51.150 --> 05:58.070 And Brett and I were talking earlier, we are just blown away by how far the community has come in just a few short weeks. 05:58.070 --> 05:59.990 We've made our own progress here. 05:59.990 --> 06:02.670 We have solved the lanyard challenge. 06:02.670 --> 06:07.610 So by just merely taking off the case, you can actually attach this, so problem solved. 06:08.270 --> 06:12.850 But the progress that has been made by these teams is much more impressive. 06:12.930 --> 06:28.470 And what I just left away is that this combination of needing to know orbital mechanics, antenna physics, as well as just good solid hacking skills, is going to create some of the most interesting challenges for future DEF CONs to come. 06:28.470 --> 06:29.810 Brett, what do you think? 06:29.810 --> 06:35.070 So my big question is, is this the second episode of Between Two Nerds? 06:35.070 --> 06:36.470 Part five. 06:36.470 --> 06:37.970 Part five. 06:38.010 --> 06:41.050 Or do you think we'll get syndicated? 06:41.050 --> 06:41.720 Maybe. 06:42.170 --> 06:44.510 Zombies in space, we're ahead of the game. 06:44.510 --> 06:45.510 We are. 06:45.510 --> 06:52.110 And as I think about my future in DoD, I'm also thinking about my future in TV. 06:53.870 --> 06:57.110 Or this could be Meet the Nerds. 06:57.130 --> 06:59.250 There's a lot of potential here. 06:59.350 --> 07:01.810 We'll hold on to our day jobs, though. 07:02.150 --> 07:02.530 All right. 07:02.530 --> 07:07.810 Well, I just feel like I'm getting a lot of encouragement to get into this realm. 07:08.190 --> 07:11.690 But anyhow, so DEF CON has been awesome. 07:11.690 --> 07:16.550 So for everyone listening out there, great, great year. 07:16.550 --> 07:25.290 And I think about last year, and I think about all that we did when Will and I went for the first time, and the fact that we got DoD out there. 07:25.290 --> 07:26.650 And so proud. 07:26.650 --> 07:29.170 And a couple of things stand out for me. 07:29.170 --> 07:30.630 But one of them is funny. 07:30.630 --> 07:33.670 So I had never been on Discord before. 07:33.670 --> 07:47.030 And y'all may be using Discord all the time, but isn't there something counterintuitive about you log on to Discord and then it sends you this random-ass link that you're supposed to click? 07:47.030 --> 07:48.650 Like, this is DEF CON. 07:48.650 --> 07:51.510 So super surprised by that. 07:51.970 --> 07:56.490 So I had to call up my friend Roro, and I'm like, hey, dude, do I click the link? 07:56.490 --> 07:59.170 And he's like, well, I guess so. 07:59.170 --> 07:59.990 Click. 08:00.230 --> 08:03.030 So hopefully that wasn't a bad click. 08:03.070 --> 08:21.410 But on a more serious note, what was really special about our efforts with Air Force and DDS is in our first day of doing everything, we had more traffic and more interactions than we did through the entire DEF CON last year. 08:21.410 --> 08:29.310 Which is insane, because for all the folks from the team who did DEF CON last year, we were slammed. 08:29.310 --> 08:39.930 So the fact that we saw those sorts of interactions means we really got our act together this year Virtual was awesome for us, and we're glad we're able to engage. 08:39.930 --> 08:43.810 But Will, hack-a-sack, what do you think? 08:43.830 --> 08:46.930 Well, Brett, amazing success. 08:46.930 --> 08:50.330 Amazing the amount of community that was able to be involved. 08:50.330 --> 08:52.950 And the feedback has been fantastic. 08:52.950 --> 08:58.410 The overwhelmingly people saying, I never knew that space was really accessible to me. 08:58.410 --> 09:01.270 Were the equipments affordable given my day job? 09:01.270 --> 09:04.010 And that's amazing to introduce that to this community. 09:04.010 --> 09:11.830 So we had over, almost 13,000 people came to the hack-a-sack website this year. 09:11.830 --> 09:15.850 Almost 5,000 people came in through the VR site. 09:15.850 --> 09:18.990 And over 130,000 social media views. 09:18.990 --> 09:21.830 Which just tells me space is super interesting. 09:21.830 --> 09:26.390 And something that's just been beyond grasp, and hopefully seems a little more so now. 09:26.390 --> 09:31.250 And for the teams that were part of our qualls, we were super excited in your interest. 09:31.250 --> 09:39.590 And for the teams who made it in the final, we're blown away by how quickly you adapted to these very difficult challenges. 09:39.590 --> 09:40.890 And I think we picked them right. 09:40.890 --> 09:44.030 They were solvable, but not easily so. 09:44.030 --> 09:46.670 And so to everyone involved, hats off. 09:46.670 --> 09:51.150 And especially just want to give a shout out to SolarWind, the top overall score. 09:51.150 --> 09:56.770 I mean, kudos to you for sticking at it, for coming back and continuing to improve what you did. 09:56.770 --> 10:00.250 For PFS, congratulations on being the top winner. 10:00.250 --> 10:03.930 Just putting a lot of amazing solutions on the board. 10:03.930 --> 10:05.870 And pull and can into space. 10:05.870 --> 10:11.810 You stated your goal was to get into space, and you did with your moonshot that we'll come to in a second. 10:11.810 --> 10:14.750 And I don't want to leave Flux Repeat Rocket out. 10:14.810 --> 10:21.950 You know, coming in, getting that 20K prize, putting up amazing tech across all these different challenges. 10:21.950 --> 10:24.210 We're just really proud of all of you. 10:24.210 --> 10:29.970 But what we wanted to end with is the Cyber Moonshot, which was more than just the name. 10:29.970 --> 10:47.850 Taking control of a satellite that is orbiting, having to restore normal operations after they've been disabled, having to understand orbital mechanics well enough to point a satellite that's meant to take a picture of the Earth to something that's 385,000 10:47.850 --> 10:57.530 kilometers away, and successfully get an image through what is very much a soda straw, is a wicked hard challenge. 10:57.530 --> 11:03.330 But DEFCON and our first satellite hack-a-sat challenge needed no less than that. 11:03.330 --> 11:08.350 And so I am pleased to announce that Poland can into space. 11:08.350 --> 11:09.690 You can. 11:09.690 --> 11:13.410 Let's roll the video for your Cyber Moonshot. 13:20.620 --> 13:24.280 All right, on screen is the moonshot for everyone to see. 13:34.720 --> 13:37.220 All right, back to you, Brett and Dr. 13:37.220 --> 13:37.960 Roper. 13:39.320 --> 13:43.940 I think that video gives you a sense about how hard this challenge was. 13:43.940 --> 13:47.760 So for Poland can into space, how awesome is that? 13:47.780 --> 13:55.680 We're super proud of what you and what every participant accomplished this week in hack-a-sat and the moonshot challenge itself. 13:55.680 --> 14:01.720 Brett, that wasn't all that was going on in the aerospace village, and particularly components dealing with space. 14:01.720 --> 14:06.820 True, but before we go there, so orbital mechanics. 14:06.820 --> 14:12.300 So if you were to define orbital mechanics, what would you say? 14:12.300 --> 14:13.860 Asking for a friend. 14:14.160 --> 14:18.640 You're going to need a basic knowledge of Kepler's laws of motion. 14:18.640 --> 14:27.860 Everything's moving around in either an ellipse, a circle, a parabola, or a hyperbola, or a line, I guess, technically, to give the degenerate cases. 14:27.860 --> 14:29.300 So you need to know that stuff. 14:29.300 --> 14:31.640 You need to be able to model it numerically. 14:31.640 --> 14:36.140 And you also need to understand how to transpose different reference frames. 14:36.260 --> 14:38.720 So other than that, Brett, it's just simple math. 14:39.140 --> 14:39.740 Got it. 14:39.740 --> 14:43.380 Kepler, degenerate, parabola. 14:43.780 --> 14:44.440 Got it. 14:44.440 --> 14:45.240 All good. 14:45.240 --> 14:46.420 Kepler's your friend in space. 14:46.420 --> 14:46.880 Got it. 14:46.880 --> 14:47.580 Okay. 14:47.580 --> 14:48.160 Kepler. 14:48.160 --> 14:49.080 Got it. 14:49.240 --> 14:50.360 So workshops. 14:50.360 --> 14:53.180 So workshops were awesome this year. 14:53.180 --> 14:57.600 And before we dive into some stats, I want to thank the team. 14:57.600 --> 15:06.480 So the DDS team with our Air Force friends, they work night and day to make all of these streams happen. 15:06.480 --> 15:19.920 And all of the mechanics probably involved a little Kepler, parabola, lines, math, to make all of these different workshops happen on the twitches. 15:19.920 --> 15:32.940 But in all seriousness, the team has been surging for months to make each one of these as real as possible, to keep it up, work the challenges, deal with drama up until the last minute. 15:32.940 --> 15:34.620 So amazing work. 15:34.620 --> 15:41.420 But we had 11 Twitch streams, and that was awesome from an educational point of view. 15:41.420 --> 15:44.320 But here's a big, big piece. 15:44.440 --> 15:49.060 Our first winner on all of the workshops was a 12-year-old. 15:49.060 --> 15:51.500 The Alpaca Club. 15:51.500 --> 15:56.960 So this 12-year-old out of nowhere came and crushed one of the workshops. 15:56.960 --> 16:14.780 And something as both as a dad, but also as a director of an innovation team, and then looking to one of our goals of training the future, a 12-year-old, again, the Alpaca Club, going and crushing it right off the bat was amazing. 16:14.880 --> 16:16.920 So we had these workshops. 16:16.920 --> 16:27.340 And from a traffic perspective, like we're looking at, we had over almost 2,500 visitors and 131 winners. 16:27.340 --> 16:29.400 And that is pretty impressive. 16:29.400 --> 16:34.340 But the good news for everyone listening out there is we're still playing today. 16:34.340 --> 16:39.720 So and because everyone likes schwag, keep playing, you win a shirt. 16:39.720 --> 16:41.480 You win, you win a shirt. 16:41.480 --> 16:42.920 Schwag wins. 16:42.920 --> 16:46.080 But these workshops were great. 16:46.080 --> 17:01.220 And one of the goals that Will and I had from the very beginning was have a very hard challenge like HackASet, where people would, you know, start and then they would get to a series of teams and get to the big win, the moonshot. 17:01.260 --> 17:08.340 But we also want to work on training folks with everything from advanced to beginner level types of workshops. 17:08.340 --> 17:11.580 And I feel like we were able to deliver there. 17:11.580 --> 17:13.240 But it was pretty awesome. 17:13.240 --> 17:15.660 I don't know if you won yet, Will. 17:16.000 --> 17:18.280 Well, I think everyone won for this. 17:18.280 --> 17:24.940 You know, it's pretty amazing to see how far just members of our military have come from just a year ago. 17:24.940 --> 17:31.240 So we were there a little over a year ago with an F-15 hacking challenge. 17:31.240 --> 17:36.720 And it really did send a shock across the Pentagon with, wait a second, what are we doing? 17:36.720 --> 17:40.300 You know, cyber vulnerabilities are not things that we're supposed to expose. 17:40.300 --> 17:56.960 And I've seen a huge amount of progress for the organizations I represent, the Air Force and the Space Force, starting to realize that this community is one that we should have been a part of a long time ago, that we have so much to learn from you, and we have learned this week. 17:56.960 --> 18:07.860 And I'm looking forward to doing some debriefs with the teams and just hearing how you approach the challenges and what you think we can do better on, because we're designing satellites and airplanes every day, Brad. 18:07.860 --> 18:12.080 And these lessons we can put directly into new things that we design. 18:12.080 --> 18:21.280 We'd also like to hear how we can be better members of this community, because we're going to be back next year and we can do virtual events, we can do live hacking events. 18:21.280 --> 18:31.060 We want to know how we can make interesting opportunities relevant to our mission, something that really energizes this community where everyone learns. 18:31.060 --> 18:34.060 So Brad, I think we all won with PAKASAT this year. 18:34.060 --> 18:35.700 I think we did too. 18:35.700 --> 18:48.920 And so the past two nights, we've done this drinks with devs, which has been pretty wild, because we just had a horde of our folks and then a bunch of people who have been working on the workshops came in. 18:48.920 --> 18:53.300 And the good news from last night is we had a winner for DDSAT. 18:53.300 --> 19:01.500 So Pina Triste, amazing work, good job, came on the call last night, got the kudos there. 19:01.500 --> 19:04.680 So we've seen winners throughout the stack. 19:05.380 --> 19:07.900 I think this year really went well. 19:07.900 --> 19:11.580 The question is, what do we do next year? 19:11.680 --> 19:15.680 Well, Brad, I have my own ideas and we'll be discussing them for sure. 19:15.680 --> 19:17.260 We could go into AI. 19:17.260 --> 19:18.940 We could go into drones. 19:18.980 --> 19:23.520 We could let members of the community make a satellite that we could put up in orbit. 19:23.520 --> 19:26.620 And maybe you've designed it more cyber secure than the way we do. 19:26.620 --> 19:28.600 But we want to hear from you. 19:28.600 --> 19:31.460 No, we should have been part of this community a long time ago. 19:31.460 --> 19:42.900 And I hope that you'll tell us how we can use opportunities like this, so that having military members be part of the DEF CON community is not an unusual thing, but a really cool thing. 19:42.900 --> 19:44.780 So we're going to keep the websites open. 19:44.780 --> 19:59.980 And we hope that you will share your thoughts with us, so that this time next year, hopefully when COVID-19 is behind us and I hope everyone is safe till then, that we can do a live event that's awesome, but continue all the awesomeness that this virtual event has afforded. 19:59.980 --> 20:03.360 We have had so many more people participate. 20:03.400 --> 20:06.120 And Brad, I don't know, maybe we can talk about zombies again next year. 20:06.240 --> 20:08.660 We could have a zombie challenge. 20:08.860 --> 20:13.460 If you can incorporate zombies into the challenge, I think you win. 20:14.020 --> 20:22.440 Because let's face it, after zombies run over the earth, we may be reliant on members of this community to download critical satellite data to know where they are. 20:22.640 --> 20:25.200 I think we've uncovered something critical. 20:25.200 --> 20:34.040 But in all seriousness, even though everything does in fact come back to zombies, we want to hear from you. 20:34.040 --> 20:36.960 So we have ideas on what is hard. 20:36.960 --> 20:40.160 So the bar was raised really high this year. 20:40.400 --> 20:41.880 What's on your mind? 20:41.880 --> 20:43.160 We're all over Twitter. 20:43.160 --> 20:44.960 We have the HackASAT handle. 20:44.960 --> 20:47.200 We have Defense Digital for DDS. 20:47.200 --> 20:48.680 We have the websites up. 20:48.680 --> 20:50.680 We want to hear from you. 20:50.680 --> 20:52.580 We're still operating on Discord. 20:52.580 --> 20:53.900 We will through the day. 20:53.900 --> 21:00.880 We want to be involved in this community, not just for a few days during the summer, but all year long. 21:00.880 --> 21:06.080 So I personally, and I know Will as well, want to hear your hardest ideas. 21:06.520 --> 21:09.240 Bonus points for zombie interactions. 21:09.640 --> 21:12.760 But, you know, we want to hear them. 21:12.760 --> 21:14.900 Yeah, I get your style points somewhere, Brett. 21:14.900 --> 21:18.440 So Brett, I don't know, from my view, what a successful conclusion. 21:18.440 --> 21:20.340 Again, congrats to all the teams. 21:20.340 --> 21:23.860 Continue learning from the websites that we have up. 21:23.860 --> 21:25.480 Let us hear from you. 21:25.480 --> 21:35.420 And hopefully by this time next year, we'll be on to the next great, amazing Capture the Flag Challenge and the next great set of workshops so that we all get smarter. 21:35.500 --> 21:45.140 So for now, we're signing off from Between Two Nerds, Meet the Nerds, All the Nerds, Some of the Nerds, Nerds Meet Zombies. 21:45.140 --> 21:50.880 But everyone, stay safe, love the interactions this year, and look forward to hearing more from you. 21:50.880 --> 21:52.200 Back to you, Jordan. 21:53.620 --> 21:54.900 Thanks very much, Dr. 21:54.900 --> 21:55.840 Oprah and Brett. 21:55.840 --> 21:57.860 From another nerd to two more. 21:57.920 --> 22:02.240 We appreciate your drive for making this event and the many other events related happen. 22:02.360 --> 22:08.060 Additionally, thanks very much to the core four, Amanda, Delia, John, and Steve. 22:08.060 --> 22:11.840 Finally, thanks to you, the audience, for spending your weekend with us. 22:11.840 --> 22:21.220 Stay safe and enjoy the rest of DEFCON, the Aerospace Village, the Defense Digital Service Workshops, and all of the other happenings this weekend.