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5820	11820	For the F-15 system, it was really to probe just how many different ways that people get in.
11820	18320	Do we have a design flaw? Is it a design flaw? Is it a hardware flaw where we've got embedded
18320	23520	systems that have back doors that can be accessed? Is it a software flaw? Or is it a little bit of
23520	29320	all of the above? It's a little bit of all of the above. And so after doing a meeting with
29320	33820	the hackers that got in, they walked through. I tried this and it worked. Then I tried this
33820	38740	next path and it worked. And just like electricity always flowing through the path of least
38740	44300	resistance, they kept trying methods. It got increasingly harder, but they didn't have to pull
44300	50200	their toughest tricks to get in. So the direction I think we're going, that we ought to go,
50200	55800	is fully embracing the hacker community at DEF CON and not waiting until systems are built
55800	61940	to create opportunities to learn and help us learn. We should bring the hacker community
61940	69220	into systems as we design them. Help us make them more secure before we're producing them.
69220	75720	And I think this could be win-win. We would learn a ton from this community, but also create some of
75720	80500	the most interesting challenges because the systems we build are unique. They have some
80500	85480	pretty amazing technology in them and I think the opportunity for the hacker community to get
85480	91680	new hands-on experience would also be really energizing and cool. So events like HackASAT
91680	98440	are awesome, live events, but the relationship and continuing it across a broader set of
98440	105940	opportunities is what's more exciting. There's an interesting synergy between, one, the hacker
105940	113940	community can touch devices you never would think you'd be allowed to touch. Weapons, satellites,
113940	122380	all the things that are pretty cool. It also helps us learn commonalities where we build a lot
122380	129940	of different things. And by learning those base cases of things we should do and should not do,
129940	136270	that helps the design. But at the same time, people need to understand that there's a
136940	142660	creativity to hacking. We often in the military, we think about checklists and spreadsheets and
142660	148420	things like that. But I know people who have done red team and hacking exercises,
148420	154360	it's much more of an art. And we want to bring that art into making our system safer.
155380	160580	So we started this planning a little bit last year and then COVID hit. How did that change the plans?
162920	169720	So there were moments where it was insanely stressful, where it's we are charging ahead
169720	175500	and I'm sitting there, oh my god, what's going to happen with DEF CON? But then we realized
175500	182520	we're perfectly situated for a virtual event. We have a VR environment, we have all of these
182520	188320	workshops, everything is now accessible from anywhere. And where I think it's really interesting
188320	195360	is we can now provide access to these workshops at a much larger scale. Whereas last year,
195360	201360	the workshops were awesome, but we were swamped. But now in the VR environment, we can take
201920	209400	thousands of people and also for access to the actual HackASet event. It's open to the world
209400	216080	now and it's going to be super cool. So a little anxiety, but we are good to go and I'm really
216080	222020	excited. I'm more excited about the virtual event than I would have been doing a live event at DEF
222020	227780	CON. And don't get me wrong, it would be awesome to have an event, a live event with people
227780	233680	attending, being able to shake hands and give high fives to the team that pull off what is going to
233680	240720	be a very difficult challenge. But the virtual event is going to allow so many more people to
240720	247440	be part of this experience, part of the community that gets to attempt this for the very first time
247440	254140	at DEF CON. And I am so much more excited about a bigger community than I am about putting up a
254140	260640	stage at Las Vegas and then taking it down after the event is over. We got to do this a few months
260640	266400	ago when we were kicking off our flying car program. Long story, but pretty awesome that we're
266620	271660	creating a new initiative to accelerate flying cars for the country. Well, that program was
271660	276840	supposed to be a major kickoff at South by Southwest, which canceled. And we had to decide
276840	284400	what do we do. Well, we kept the event rolling through a virtual event and had over 60,000 people
284920	291040	participate. We would have never had that number be able to make it down to Austin and get to an
291040	297640	event that could probably hold no more than 2,000 tops. So the potential for a greater community is
297640	304020	huge doing the event this way. We will still get all of the cool factor from multiple hacker teams
304020	310380	having the opportunity to let their code run live in space, which is just an awesome opportunity.
310660	317360	But imagine this, Roro. We had over 2,000 different teams just go through the qualls.
317360	323160	We had over 6,000 people who have already raised their hand to be a hands-on participant.
323160	328800	So who knows how many people will tune in during this week. But the opportunity to have a broad
328800	334540	group of people is the most exciting thing about being virtual. And I hope everyone that is logging
334540	340420	and participating, I hope that you're safe and well. So we're super excited that besides
340420	347700	HackASet, we are also having a series of workshops. We have bricks in the air again. We have a ground
347700	354780	station exercise. Now the thing that's important here is HackASet was extraordinarily competitive.
354780	359900	You know, as Will mentioned, thousands of folks tried out for it, and it got narrowed down to
359900	368160	eight teams. That's right. And so we have eight rock star teams doing that. But part of what we
368160	374480	want to do here is help people learn about the variety of technologies. Because what's really
374480	381820	interesting to me is, this is a different type of hacking. This is not your traditional going after
382000	388560	a web property or a traditional software app. There's a new set of skills to learn. So we have
388560	395940	workshops all available via VR, ranging from beginner level all the way up to advanced. Because
395940	401160	we want to help you learn more about the tooling and the skills you need for these types of systems.
401160	406400	And then when you get toward advanced, then you'll be ready to work on the HackASet type of
406400	412200	events. So we have the full stack ready for you. Remember my favorite comment coming out of one of
412200	418240	the teammates that participated in the qualls was, I didn't know I needed a degree in physics to hack
418400	423540	a satellite. We don't actually need the degree, but you do need to know a little about physics
423540	428960	to hack it. And part of the purpose of these workshops are to introduce the peculiar new
428960	433140	trade craft that will be needed so that you can take hacker skills you have today
433140	437900	and apply them to these very different opportunities in space and in the air.
437940	444820	So like I think we really crushed like doing the virtual piece. What do we do about stickers?
445140	452340	Like the whole Defcon sticker swap? A little stressful. Maybe we could do them like Bitcoin.
452920	456960	Crypto coins. That could be the new... because I can't give coins out right now. I have a bunch
456960	461360	in my office. I can't. So we can mail them, but crypto coins could be the wave of the future.
461420	465480	Yeah, for everyone watching, everyone in the Pentagon has coins. There are things that you give
465480	471540	out when someone's really done something great or helped you out. So it goes well back in military
471540	477440	tradition, but you give them out via handshake. With the coin in your hand, you shake hands. It
477440	483800	transfers from one person to the other. So COVID-19 has put a serious dent in this time-honored
483800	489860	tradition. So crypto coins... So you spray the coin first, right? But then it gets, it's a hot mess.
489860	495520	It's even worse than that. We have them in little plastic bags and we dump them from one hand to
495520	500760	the other. It completely has lost the sense of ceremony. So you have to open the bag first,
500760	504860	then dump them in the hand. It's just, there's no way to say, congratulations, stick out your hand
504860	509680	and then dump a coin in it, right? The firm handshake is needed to say, thank you for what
509680	510260	you've done.