1 00:00:05,340 --> 00:00:09,040 I thought it was interesting last year. 2 00:00:10,120 --> 00:00:14,640 The expectation of DoD was sadly pretty low. 3 00:00:15,100 --> 00:00:23,080 Expecting someone in a suit, expecting someone in a uniform, who would not engage this community. 4 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:30,500 And I remember after we gave a talk last year, a bunch of folks came up and they're like, you're not what we expected. 5 00:00:30,500 --> 00:00:33,760 And you're doing super cool shit. 6 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,600 How can we help? 7 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,400 And those are the discussions we want to have. 8 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,960 Because Will and I are constantly worried. 9 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:47,480 We're constantly working to raise the bar and make things better. 10 00:00:47,480 --> 00:00:50,780 But we need that level of expertise and partnerships. 11 00:00:51,040 --> 00:01:01,460 So I was thrilled that last year we could go directly engage, show that we aren't what you expect, and we do really, really cool things. 12 00:01:01,860 --> 00:01:04,620 And the opportunities are really broad. 13 00:01:04,660 --> 00:01:12,120 So if someone's out thinking, well, I'm interested in helping the military, but I don't know if I want to work on a weapons system. 14 00:01:12,500 --> 00:01:15,620 Every technology under the sun is part of the military. 15 00:01:15,620 --> 00:01:19,240 We do disaster relief every year during the hurricane season. 16 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:25,140 The Air Force is flying planes in to move people that are under stress and deliver supplies. 17 00:01:25,140 --> 00:01:30,380 And that is a major part of what the military does that doesn't make the news. 18 00:01:30,380 --> 00:01:36,200 We work in energy, we work in medicine, providing a lot of frontline responders to COVID-19. 19 00:01:36,420 --> 00:01:39,260 All of this is empowered by software. 20 00:01:39,260 --> 00:01:44,540 We need digital experts who want to help us take our game to the next level. 21 00:01:44,580 --> 00:01:50,000 So no matter what you are interested in working with us on, the opportunity is there. 22 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:59,080 And we will be here year after year at DEFCON bringing opportunities for you to participate in our mission, to learn more about us so that we can learn from you. 23 00:01:59,220 --> 00:02:14,340 So when we were building MySymptoms.mil earlier this year, which is part of our COVID-19 response, before we let out the door, we reached out to someone in the DEFCON community because that needs to be part of our culture. 24 00:02:14,740 --> 00:02:16,300 We're creating software. 25 00:02:16,300 --> 00:02:17,460 We think it's pretty good. 26 00:02:17,460 --> 00:02:21,200 We have a pretty good SWAT team, but we want those outside eyes. 27 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:28,140 And this is for something, COVID-19 is something that's bringing us all together and that's a perfect example of community engagement. 28 00:02:28,140 --> 00:02:30,980 And we tightened it up and we got out the door. 29 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,580 From my view, the defense companies mirror the government. 30 00:02:34,580 --> 00:02:39,520 And the government is slow and 20 years, if not more, behind the time. 31 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:53,460 So it has to start with the government leading the dance and having more people who have technical backgrounds who don't look like what you expect in the Pentagon start bringing in new ideas, new technologies, and just a new culture. 32 00:02:53,460 --> 00:03:02,960 And that's part of why we're here as part of DEFCON, part of why we're talking with you through a very different venue than you normally get out of this five-sided building. 33 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,600 So that's step one. 34 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,420 The government's got to change. 35 00:03:06,420 --> 00:03:09,380 Step two is government doesn't make much. 36 00:03:09,380 --> 00:03:24,880 We have amazing airmen who write code for us every day and sci-fi inspired organizations called Kessel Run, Kobayashi Maru, and 60 more names covering the sci-fi and comic book universe. 37 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:30,780 They're awesome teams, but they're a small component of what industry provides. 38 00:03:30,780 --> 00:03:32,060 We don't build airplanes. 39 00:03:32,060 --> 00:03:35,300 We don't build satellites ourselves, rarely. 40 00:03:35,420 --> 00:03:51,360 And so if industry doesn't learn to adopt these new techniques, if they don't become better at software and shift to new trends in development like containerization and shift to open approaches to determining errors in code like bug bounties and open sourcing of code, 41 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,880 then we will continue to be further and further behind the times. 42 00:03:54,900 --> 00:03:57,620 And ultimately, our model's got to be hybrid. 43 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,900 We won't open source all of our code. 44 00:03:59,900 --> 00:04:03,240 We will always have things we reserve for conflict. 45 00:04:03,380 --> 00:04:05,800 But we don't open source anything today. 46 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:14,100 We did that for the first time this year, RoRo, the first time we have open source code that's needed for operations. 47 00:04:14,100 --> 00:04:18,480 I expect that's the most secure code we have right now in the Air Force. 48 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:19,700 So what's next? 49 00:04:19,700 --> 00:04:23,560 The question I have for industry is what's next? 50 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,400 And when are you going to be part of the solution? 51 00:04:26,860 --> 00:04:30,120 There's a cultural piece we need to get at here. 52 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,480 A couple things that drive me crazy. 53 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,080 One, good enough for government work. 54 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,920 That is absolute bullshit. 55 00:04:38,180 --> 00:04:39,940 End of sentence. 56 00:04:39,940 --> 00:04:45,180 Two is, you know, Will mentioned that government is behind. 57 00:04:45,180 --> 00:04:46,900 How is that okay? 58 00:04:46,900 --> 00:04:55,660 And this is one of the reasons I left the private sector and came into government because we can't be okay with this. 59 00:04:55,660 --> 00:05:08,060 So part of what Will and I do is reset this culture and challenge ourselves, never have acceptance for that because neither one of those statements make any sense to me. 60 00:05:08,060 --> 00:05:09,700 So do you both have tenure in your jobs? 61 00:05:09,700 --> 00:05:12,520 Because it seems like a really bad idea. 62 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:24,080 Well, as long as it doesn't come crashing down through the roof any time soon, RoRo is probably going to make it a few months more. 63 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:32,980 I will say we've taken extraordinary security precautions to make sure that everything is going to be okay up in orbital land. 64 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,140 But we are going to let teams move the satellite. 65 00:05:37,140 --> 00:05:43,400 So not move it in a translational sense, but we're going to let teams rotate it. 66 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:49,600 And if they're good enough and they can do their orbital mechanics quickly enough, we're asking them to take a picture of the moon. 67 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:57,960 So what we hope to send out to the hacker community is a wonderful image of the moon brought courtesy of the hacker team that won. 68 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:04,340 So that's a pretty, pretty awesome opportunity to have that code actually change something in orbit. 69 00:06:04,420 --> 00:06:10,460 But we've taken extraordinary procedures to make sure that's all that that code will be able to do. 70 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,540 But RoRo, your question is actually an important one. 71 00:06:13,540 --> 00:06:18,340 So in terms of tenure, no, I have no idea how long I have in this job. 72 00:06:18,340 --> 00:06:36,960 I came into defense through happenstance, worked for a couple of secretaries of defense, built a lot of awesome systems, very few of which I can talk about, but amazing capabilities, swarming things, et cetera, made with a lot of incredible men and women in uniform. 73 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:43,240 But crossing over into this job, running all the Air Force and Space Force programs, which is an awesome job. 74 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:52,120 If you're ever asked to do it, say yes, because you get all of these amazing technologies, satellites and airplanes and cyber tools and amazing people to work with. 75 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:57,020 But you only get to be in the job as long as you're asked to do it. 76 00:06:57,020 --> 00:06:59,840 And so my tenure could be very short. 77 00:06:59,960 --> 00:07:09,240 And what I hope, what I pray for the Pentagon is that people in leadership will keep asking technical people to come and serve. 78 00:07:09,380 --> 00:07:15,560 So if you're out there thinking, I'd love to be part of an Air Force hacking team, then come find us, come join us. 79 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:23,720 If you want to be part of Defense Digital Service, which would be an amazing job, where you wouldn't have to wear a suit to work every day, come join them. 80 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,560 Be one of the squadron of nerds. 81 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:28,260 I'm using Air Force. 82 00:07:28,260 --> 00:07:29,840 Can you be a squadron of nerds? 83 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,640 So the squadron of nerds is part of the SWAT team of nerds? 84 00:07:32,740 --> 00:07:36,140 Squadron of nerds would be like the Air Force, because we're all squadrons. 85 00:07:36,140 --> 00:07:39,540 So we could have like an auxiliary squadron of nerds. 86 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:40,740 Well, there you go. 87 00:07:40,740 --> 00:07:42,840 But take the opportunity up. 88 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,280 You won't be sorry. 89 00:07:44,280 --> 00:08:01,980 But that's ultimately the trend we need are people that have technical talent who don't want to work in the government forever, but that say, you know, for one, two, three years, I want to go take on some new opportunities for the government to make it easy and energizing to do that. 90 00:08:02,300 --> 00:08:04,780 So I'm here on a two-year tour. 91 00:08:04,780 --> 00:08:06,300 I am halfway through. 92 00:08:06,860 --> 00:08:11,760 But the story is like I'm part of the story, but I'm not the story. 93 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:17,740 I'm part of an 80-person team, and this is the best team I've ever been part of. 94 00:08:17,740 --> 00:08:23,060 And there will be another director after me who will represent the team. 95 00:08:23,060 --> 00:08:29,320 But every day, this SWAT team of nerds goes out and works on projects that you really, you can't believe. 96 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,520 It makes an insane impact. 97 00:08:31,700 --> 00:08:37,820 So I'll do my two years, but the mission will go on and the team will continue to rock. 98 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,460 I can see if the Air Force can make DDS an honorary squadron. 99 00:08:42,460 --> 00:08:43,600 That'd be cool. 100 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:44,280 I'm taken. 101 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:45,500 That's action. 102 00:08:45,500 --> 00:08:47,800 Colonel Bailey, action taken. 103 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:49,280 Did I say Colonel? 104 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:50,760 Colonel, I just promoted you to Colonel. 105 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,700 Captain Bailey, action taken. 106 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,660 Does that mean we can go to space? 107 00:08:57,740 --> 00:08:58,800 This is important. 108 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,760 Can we just work this through? 109 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,280 I think astronaut training should be required for that, Brad. 110 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:13,120 So I was watching Picard with the kids last night, and they have that transporter thing. 111 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,680 I figured somewhere in the classified portfolio? 112 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:17,400 We're working it. 113 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,640 So if that works, can I go to space? 114 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:25,460 It's right next to the warp drive, right next to the photon torpedo. 115 00:09:25,460 --> 00:09:31,180 So yes, when we've got teleportation done, Brad, I will personally teleport you up to the space station. 116 00:09:31,260 --> 00:09:32,160 Got it. 117 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:33,880 How's the food up there? 118 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,780 NASA provides that, so I don't know. 119 00:09:37,300 --> 00:09:39,580 Do you think there are any gummy products? 120 00:09:39,580 --> 00:09:46,940 I'm going to guess, oh, I don't know, Brad, because gummy products have a high degree of water content, and all that's going to outgas. 121 00:09:46,940 --> 00:09:50,180 So how would mayonnaise perform in space? 122 00:09:50,180 --> 00:09:51,120 Not well. 123 00:09:51,460 --> 00:09:52,800 That's a critical issue. 124 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:53,520 Not well. 125 00:09:53,520 --> 00:10:00,220 So you'd have to get at least a pressure-sealed vessel, but all things we can work on. 126 00:10:00,220 --> 00:10:01,440 Science never stops. 127 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:06,420 I'm a little fussy about mayonnaise, so we'd want to work that through before the transporter. 128 00:10:06,420 --> 00:10:10,000 So spam sandwiches not going to be on your list for astronaut? 129 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:11,220 And a tank? 130 00:10:11,860 --> 00:10:18,660 No, no, I was figuring, well, I am fussy about the mayonnaise, but you can actually put mayonnaise with most foods. 131 00:10:19,540 --> 00:10:21,040 Just something to ponder.