[00:05.340 --> 00:09.040]  I thought it was interesting last year.
[00:10.120 --> 00:14.640]  The expectation of DoD was sadly pretty low.
[00:15.100 --> 00:20.380]  Expecting someone in a suit, expecting someone in a uniform,
[00:20.380 --> 00:23.080]  who would not engage this community.
[00:23.080 --> 00:25.920]  And I remember after we gave a talk last year,
[00:26.300 --> 00:28.280]  a bunch of folks came up and they're like,
[00:28.280 --> 00:30.500]  you're not what we expected.
[00:30.500 --> 00:35.600]  And you're doing super cool shit. How can we help?
[00:35.840 --> 00:39.400]  And those are the discussions we want to have.
[00:39.400 --> 00:41.960]  Because Will and I are constantly worried.
[00:41.960 --> 00:47.480]  We're constantly working to raise the bar and make things better.
[00:47.480 --> 00:50.780]  But we need that level of expertise and partnerships.
[00:51.040 --> 00:55.300]  So I was thrilled that last year we could go directly engage,
[00:55.300 --> 00:58.860]  show that we aren't what you expect,
[00:58.860 --> 01:01.460]  and we do really, really cool things.
[01:01.860 --> 01:04.620]  And the opportunities are really broad.
[01:04.660 --> 01:09.160]  So if someone's out thinking, well, I'm interested in helping the military,
[01:09.160 --> 01:12.120]  but I don't know if I want to work on a weapons system.
[01:12.500 --> 01:15.620]  Every technology under the sun is part of the military.
[01:15.620 --> 01:19.240]  We do disaster relief every year during the hurricane season.
[01:19.240 --> 01:23.720]  The Air Force is flying planes in to move people that are under stress
[01:23.720 --> 01:25.140]  and deliver supplies.
[01:25.140 --> 01:28.420]  And that is a major part of what the military does
[01:28.420 --> 01:30.380]  that doesn't make the news.
[01:30.380 --> 01:32.540]  We work in energy, we work in medicine,
[01:32.540 --> 01:36.200]  providing a lot of frontline responders to COVID-19.
[01:36.420 --> 01:39.260]  All of this is empowered by software.
[01:39.260 --> 01:44.540]  We need digital experts who want to help us take our game to the next level.
[01:44.580 --> 01:47.700]  So no matter what you are interested in working with us on,
[01:47.700 --> 01:50.000]  the opportunity is there.
[01:50.000 --> 01:52.400]  And we will be here year after year at DEFCON
[01:52.400 --> 01:56.160]  bringing opportunities for you to participate in our mission,
[01:56.160 --> 01:59.080]  to learn more about us so that we can learn from you.
[01:59.220 --> 02:03.720]  So when we were building MySymptoms.mil earlier this year,
[02:03.720 --> 02:06.700]  which is part of our COVID-19 response,
[02:06.700 --> 02:08.460]  before we let out the door,
[02:08.460 --> 02:10.820]  we reached out to someone in the DEFCON community
[02:10.820 --> 02:14.340]  because that needs to be part of our culture.
[02:14.740 --> 02:16.300]  We're creating software.
[02:16.300 --> 02:17.460]  We think it's pretty good.
[02:17.460 --> 02:19.260]  We have a pretty good SWAT team,
[02:19.260 --> 02:21.200]  but we want those outside eyes.
[02:21.200 --> 02:22.580]  And this is for something,
[02:22.580 --> 02:25.000]  COVID-19 is something that's bringing us all together
[02:25.000 --> 02:28.140]  and that's a perfect example of community engagement.
[02:28.140 --> 02:30.980]  And we tightened it up and we got out the door.
[02:31.280 --> 02:34.580]  From my view, the defense companies mirror the government.
[02:34.580 --> 02:39.520]  And the government is slow and 20 years, if not more, behind the time.
[02:39.520 --> 02:42.280]  So it has to start with the government leading the dance
[02:42.280 --> 02:45.100]  and having more people who have technical backgrounds
[02:45.100 --> 02:48.340]  who don't look like what you expect in the Pentagon
[02:48.340 --> 02:53.460]  start bringing in new ideas, new technologies, and just a new culture.
[02:53.460 --> 02:56.200]  And that's part of why we're here as part of DEFCON,
[02:56.200 --> 02:59.860]  part of why we're talking with you through a very different venue
[03:00.240 --> 03:02.960]  than you normally get out of this five-sided building.
[03:02.960 --> 03:04.600]  So that's step one.
[03:04.600 --> 03:06.420]  The government's got to change.
[03:06.420 --> 03:09.380]  Step two is government doesn't make much.
[03:09.380 --> 03:12.460]  We have amazing airmen who write code for us every day
[03:12.460 --> 03:17.940]  and sci-fi inspired organizations called Kessel Run, Kobayashi Maru,
[03:17.940 --> 03:24.880]  and 60 more names covering the sci-fi and comic book universe.
[03:24.880 --> 03:30.780]  They're awesome teams, but they're a small component of what industry provides.
[03:30.780 --> 03:35.300]  We don't build airplanes. We don't build satellites ourselves, rarely.
[03:35.420 --> 03:38.620]  And so if industry doesn't learn to adopt these new techniques,
[03:38.620 --> 03:42.920]  if they don't become better at software and shift to new trends in development
[03:42.920 --> 03:48.460]  like containerization and shift to open approaches to determining errors in code
[03:48.460 --> 03:51.360]  like bug bounties and open sourcing of code,
[03:51.360 --> 03:54.880]  then we will continue to be further and further behind the times.
[03:54.900 --> 03:57.620]  And ultimately, our model's got to be hybrid.
[03:57.720 --> 03:59.900]  We won't open source all of our code.
[03:59.900 --> 04:03.240]  We will always have things we reserve for conflict.
[04:03.380 --> 04:05.800]  But we don't open source anything today.
[04:05.800 --> 04:09.080]  We did that for the first time this year, RoRo,
[04:09.080 --> 04:14.100]  the first time we have open source code that's needed for operations.
[04:14.100 --> 04:18.480]  I expect that's the most secure code we have right now in the Air Force.
[04:18.480 --> 04:23.560]  So what's next? The question I have for industry is what's next?
[04:23.560 --> 04:26.400]  And when are you going to be part of the solution?
[04:26.860 --> 04:30.120]  There's a cultural piece we need to get at here.
[04:30.120 --> 04:33.480]  A couple things that drive me crazy.
[04:33.480 --> 04:36.080]  One, good enough for government work.
[04:36.080 --> 04:39.940]  That is absolute bullshit. End of sentence.
[04:39.940 --> 04:45.180]  Two is, you know, Will mentioned that government is behind.
[04:45.180 --> 04:46.900]  How is that okay?
[04:46.900 --> 04:51.900]  And this is one of the reasons I left the private sector and came into government
[04:51.900 --> 04:55.660]  because we can't be okay with this.
[04:55.660 --> 04:59.200]  So part of what Will and I do is reset this culture
[04:59.200 --> 05:03.840]  and challenge ourselves, never have acceptance for that
[05:04.460 --> 05:08.060]  because neither one of those statements make any sense to me.
[05:08.060 --> 05:12.520]  So do you both have tenure in your jobs? Because it seems like a really bad idea.
[05:16.200 --> 05:20.780]  Well, as long as it doesn't come crashing down through the roof any time soon,
[05:20.780 --> 05:24.080]  RoRo is probably going to make it a few months more.
[05:24.960 --> 05:28.460]  I will say we've taken extraordinary security precautions
[05:28.460 --> 05:32.980]  to make sure that everything is going to be okay up in orbital land.
[05:33.560 --> 05:37.140]  But we are going to let teams move the satellite.
[05:37.140 --> 05:43.400]  So not move it in a translational sense, but we're going to let teams rotate it.
[05:43.400 --> 05:47.140]  And if they're good enough and they can do their orbital mechanics quickly enough,
[05:47.140 --> 05:49.600]  we're asking them to take a picture of the moon.
[05:49.680 --> 05:54.540]  So what we hope to send out to the hacker community is a wonderful image of the moon
[05:54.540 --> 05:57.960]  brought courtesy of the hacker team that won.
[05:57.960 --> 06:04.340]  So that's a pretty, pretty awesome opportunity to have that code actually change something in orbit.
[06:04.420 --> 06:10.460]  But we've taken extraordinary procedures to make sure that's all that that code will be able to do.
[06:10.720 --> 06:13.540]  But RoRo, your question is actually an important one.
[06:13.540 --> 06:18.340]  So in terms of tenure, no, I have no idea how long I have in this job.
[06:18.340 --> 06:24.160]  I came into defense through happenstance, worked for a couple of secretaries of defense,
[06:24.160 --> 06:28.960]  built a lot of awesome systems, very few of which I can talk about,
[06:28.960 --> 06:33.660]  but amazing capabilities, swarming things, et cetera,
[06:33.660 --> 06:36.960]  made with a lot of incredible men and women in uniform.
[06:36.960 --> 06:41.280]  But crossing over into this job, running all the Air Force and Space Force programs,
[06:41.280 --> 06:43.240]  which is an awesome job.
[06:43.240 --> 06:48.220]  If you're ever asked to do it, say yes, because you get all of these amazing technologies,
[06:48.220 --> 06:52.120]  satellites and airplanes and cyber tools and amazing people to work with.
[06:52.120 --> 06:57.020]  But you only get to be in the job as long as you're asked to do it.
[06:57.020 --> 06:59.840]  And so my tenure could be very short.
[06:59.960 --> 07:04.420]  And what I hope, what I pray for the Pentagon is that people in leadership
[07:04.420 --> 07:09.240]  will keep asking technical people to come and serve.
[07:09.380 --> 07:13.620]  So if you're out there thinking, I'd love to be part of an Air Force hacking team,
[07:13.620 --> 07:15.560]  then come find us, come join us.
[07:15.560 --> 07:19.760]  If you want to be part of Defense Digital Service, which would be an amazing job,
[07:19.760 --> 07:23.720]  where you wouldn't have to wear a suit to work every day, come join them.
[07:23.720 --> 07:29.840]  Be one of the squadron of nerds. I'm using Air Force. Can you be a squadron of nerds?
[07:29.840 --> 07:32.640]  So the squadron of nerds is part of the SWAT team of nerds?
[07:32.740 --> 07:36.140]  Squadron of nerds would be like the Air Force, because we're all squadrons.
[07:36.140 --> 07:39.540]  So we could have like an auxiliary squadron of nerds.
[07:39.680 --> 07:40.740]  Well, there you go.
[07:40.740 --> 07:44.280]  But take the opportunity up. You won't be sorry.
[07:44.280 --> 07:48.600]  But that's ultimately the trend we need are people that have technical talent
[07:48.600 --> 07:54.980]  who don't want to work in the government forever, but that say, you know, for one, two, three years,
[07:54.980 --> 08:01.980]  I want to go take on some new opportunities for the government to make it easy and energizing to do that.
[08:02.300 --> 08:06.300]  So I'm here on a two-year tour. I am halfway through.
[08:06.860 --> 08:11.760]  But the story is like I'm part of the story, but I'm not the story.
[08:11.760 --> 08:17.740]  I'm part of an 80-person team, and this is the best team I've ever been part of.
[08:17.740 --> 08:23.060]  And there will be another director after me who will represent the team.
[08:23.060 --> 08:29.320]  But every day, this SWAT team of nerds goes out and works on projects that you really, you can't believe.
[08:29.320 --> 08:31.520]  It makes an insane impact.
[08:31.700 --> 08:37.820]  So I'll do my two years, but the mission will go on and the team will continue to rock.
[08:38.440 --> 08:42.460]  I can see if the Air Force can make DDS an honorary squadron.
[08:42.460 --> 08:43.600]  That'd be cool.
[08:43.600 --> 08:45.500]  I'm taken. That's action.
[08:45.500 --> 08:47.800]  Colonel Bailey, action taken.
[08:48.280 --> 08:52.700]  Did I say Colonel? Colonel, I just promoted you to Colonel. Captain Bailey, action taken.
[08:54.000 --> 08:56.660]  Does that mean we can go to space?
[08:57.740 --> 09:00.760]  This is important. Can we just work this through?
[09:01.760 --> 09:05.280]  I think astronaut training should be required for that, Brad.
[09:05.680 --> 09:13.120]  So I was watching Picard with the kids last night, and they have that transporter thing.
[09:13.120 --> 09:15.680]  I figured somewhere in the classified portfolio?
[09:16.720 --> 09:17.400]  We're working it.
[09:18.240 --> 09:20.640]  So if that works, can I go to space?
[09:20.640 --> 09:25.460]  It's right next to the warp drive, right next to the photon torpedo.
[09:25.460 --> 09:31.180]  So yes, when we've got teleportation done, Brad, I will personally teleport you up to the space station.
[09:31.260 --> 09:33.880]  Got it. How's the food up there?
[09:34.720 --> 09:36.780]  NASA provides that, so I don't know.
[09:37.300 --> 09:39.580]  Do you think there are any gummy products?
[09:39.580 --> 09:44.600]  I'm going to guess, oh, I don't know, Brad, because gummy products have a high degree of water content,
[09:44.600 --> 09:46.940]  and all that's going to outgas.
[09:46.940 --> 09:50.180]  So how would mayonnaise perform in space?
[09:50.180 --> 09:51.120]  Not well.
[09:51.460 --> 09:52.800]  That's a critical issue.
[09:52.800 --> 10:00.220]  Not well. So you'd have to get at least a pressure-sealed vessel, but all things we can work on.
[10:00.220 --> 10:01.440]  Science never stops.
[10:01.440 --> 10:06.420]  I'm a little fussy about mayonnaise, so we'd want to work that through before the transporter.
[10:06.420 --> 10:11.220]  So spam sandwiches not going to be on your list for astronaut? And a tank?
[10:11.860 --> 10:18.660]  No, no, I was figuring, well, I am fussy about the mayonnaise, but you can actually put mayonnaise with most foods.
[10:19.540 --> 10:21.040]  Just something to ponder.