[00:00.000 --> 00:03.880] All righty, then we can go ahead and get rolling here. And I'll just again say, [00:03.880 --> 00:09.000] welcome everybody. Thank you so much for joining in today's session on the National Traffic System [00:09.000 --> 00:16.740] and the radiogram that we use to move traffic, or in this case messages, across the country. [00:17.160 --> 00:23.020] My fancy title is Section Traffic Manager, which is just a nice way of saying that I kind of [00:23.020 --> 00:31.260] oversee traffic handling here in the North Texas section and look for opportunities to help [00:32.240 --> 00:37.340] you folks learn more about traffic handling skills and keep an eye on the system to see [00:37.340 --> 00:41.420] if there's any improvements or changes or anything like that that we could do. [00:41.940 --> 00:49.760] So again, thank you so much for joining in. And I guess kind of a fun way to start things is [00:49.760 --> 00:55.860] talk about how I got started in traffic handling. It was many years ago. I was in [00:55.860 --> 01:03.240] Michigan at the time, and hence the eight in my call sign. And we were preparing with the county [01:03.760 --> 01:10.680] ARIES-RACES group as a combined group to hold a simulated emergency test. And when they were [01:10.680 --> 01:15.960] handing out assignments, they got to me and they said, okay, we need you to go to the hospital [01:15.960 --> 01:21.960] and use this radiogram to send in a request to the emergency operations center. And I just [01:21.960 --> 01:28.880] kind of said, I don't know what you're talking about. And so that started my journey into [01:29.580 --> 01:37.320] what is the radiogram format and how does it fit in the way that we provide public service and [01:37.320 --> 01:43.060] those types of things. And so from there, I've kind of built it up over time. And now I kind [01:43.060 --> 01:47.840] of oversee things and again, try to pass the knowledge along. So again, thanks so much for [01:47.840 --> 01:55.100] joining in. Let's see if this thing's going to move forward. There we go. So just to give kind [01:55.100 --> 02:00.020] of a quick what we're going to do during this time. Just a quick high level overview of the [02:00.020 --> 02:05.540] traffic system. I don't want to go into a ton of detail. It's boring. But I think if you have a [02:05.540 --> 02:11.320] good 30,000 foot view, that'll help. Kind of the skills that you gain from participating in traffic [02:11.320 --> 02:15.780] handling. And then we'll dive into the radiogram and its components. And then we'll have some [02:15.780 --> 02:19.880] hands-on practice and kind of talk about how traffic nets work and things if you want to join [02:19.880 --> 02:26.540] in on one of those. Again, if you have any questions at all while we're going through things, [02:26.540 --> 02:30.720] even if it's a... hey, I remember you talked about that in the radiogram header, but could you [02:30.720 --> 02:34.700] explain that one more time? Feel free to throw them in the chat and we'll kind of take those [02:34.700 --> 02:41.840] questions as they come in. All righty. So a quick overview of the traffic system. [02:42.680 --> 02:49.080] Essentially, we're an organized network of hams that move these messages across country and beyond [02:49.080 --> 02:57.820] and started in 1914-1915 as the formal system for relaying traffic across the country. This is [02:57.820 --> 03:06.680] the relay in American Radio Relay League. This is why the ARRL formed, was to move these messages [03:06.680 --> 03:13.500] across the country. And so if you get that random Jeopardy question of what is the relay in ARRL, [03:13.500 --> 03:19.220] I guess now you know the answer. But this is how the league got started. And since then, [03:19.220 --> 03:24.000] we've been continuously moving traffic across country and beyond. The types of things that [03:24.000 --> 03:30.960] we move, we'll start with the highest level of urgency, emergency traffic. And so these are the [03:30.960 --> 03:40.240] life and death type things. I need a generator now, or I need diesel for the generator in five [03:40.240 --> 03:45.500] hours, or the hospital is going to have a big problem, and I'm trying to summarize it. But [03:46.080 --> 03:51.780] those types of things. Also specific instructions like evacuate the area or those types of things. [03:51.780 --> 03:56.960] Thankfully, we don't get a lot of emergency traffic on the traffic system, but we can designate [03:56.960 --> 04:02.360] items as emergency to make sure they push through the system quickly and effectively. Then we have [04:02.360 --> 04:08.620] priority traffic. This is where time is important, but it's not quite the life and death. So maybe [04:08.620 --> 04:15.840] notifications on number of injuries or shelter will be established at this address at this time, [04:15.840 --> 04:23.480] those types of details. Then we go to welfare traffic. And during incidents, this is kind of [04:23.480 --> 04:29.260] the general use of the traffic system. I want to let my family know I'm okay, or I have family in [04:29.260 --> 04:33.960] that area, I want to know if they're okay. And so we'll move these welfare messages in and out of [04:33.960 --> 04:41.480] affected areas. And so think Puerto Rico with the earthquake, you can think Houston with hurricanes, [04:41.480 --> 04:45.680] and we just want to let family members know we're okay, that type of thing. We'll move those through [04:45.680 --> 04:52.220] the system as welfare traffic. And then the general type of traffic that we have go through [04:52.220 --> 04:58.040] the system, because thankfully, we're not in disasters all the time, is routine traffic. [04:58.040 --> 05:05.020] So these are kind of the well wishes, sometimes the welcome to the hobby, or [05:06.520 --> 05:13.600] happy birthday, Merry Christmas, those types of messages. And those messages help us test [05:13.600 --> 05:19.660] the system to make sure that we're ready to go if something happens. And it helps new operators [05:19.660 --> 05:25.400] build their skills. And it helps us keep practicing those skills to build that muscle memory so that [05:25.400 --> 05:30.700] when we do get into an incident, we're ready to go. We've already been running and we're well [05:30.700 --> 05:36.180] established. And we've got the rhythm and we can just kick into it and keep rolling in things. [05:36.720 --> 05:43.420] NTS is primarily US and Canada. And we do have the ability to move traffic internationally through [05:43.420 --> 05:50.520] the system overall. I know Peter dl4fn is in Germany, and he participates in traffic handling [05:50.520 --> 05:55.400] and will send messages across. We'll get them here in North Texas. I know he sends them to other areas [05:55.400 --> 06:04.300] to third party agreement supply. So you're not sending traffic to North Korea, as far as I know. [06:04.720 --> 06:10.520] And you can, you can send traffic on behalf of third parties, you don't have to be a ham [06:10.520 --> 06:15.060] to put traffic into the system or receive traffic from the system. [06:15.120 --> 06:19.840] But if you're going international, then the third party rules apply on those. [06:20.220 --> 06:27.340] Modes are generally what you would think voice, CW, so Morse code, and then digital, such as a [06:27.340 --> 06:32.980] digital traffic network, which I know with the way the hand bands have the HF bands have been, [06:32.980 --> 06:35.920] digital is really nice for punching through the conditions type of thing. [06:35.920 --> 06:44.280] But thankfully, here in North Texas, we have a lot of traffic activity. So the 7290 traffic net, [06:44.280 --> 06:52.640] which is a voice net, that's 7.290. Imagine that. A lot of activity, even with the way the bands are [06:52.640 --> 06:56.840] sometimes they'll run into that we couldn't quite move it. And you know, you have to kind of get the [06:56.840 --> 07:02.680] relay going between stations to make it happen. But thankfully, the conditions have been fair, [07:02.680 --> 07:08.980] I guess. Here's how a message would generally move through this system. So the way we stack [07:08.980 --> 07:14.480] this is we try to start things kind of the same way with when we handle disasters, we start and [07:14.480 --> 07:22.420] end at the at the local level. And so let me see if I can get my fancy laser pointer to work. So [07:22.420 --> 07:29.240] we'll start things here at the at the local net level. And then we'll work that traffic up to [07:29.240 --> 07:34.200] either region or area nets depends on how far it's going to travel, and have it jump across [07:34.200 --> 07:42.620] on those and then come back down and make its way back to a local net in the delivery area so that a [07:42.620 --> 07:49.740] ham in that local area can make make that delivery. And let me see if I can maybe clarify that a [07:49.740 --> 07:54.680] little bit better with an example of how something moves. And so let's say I want to send a message [07:54.680 --> 08:01.700] to a family member in Michigan from here in Texas, I go to my local net. And I say I have [08:01.700 --> 08:07.700] one piece of traffic that's headed to Michigan. And the net control station will work to find [08:07.700 --> 08:13.860] another traffic handler that can move it towards Michigan. And I'll talk about how the net control [08:13.860 --> 08:20.260] station kind of figures that out later. Once that person's identified, that other station will take [08:20.260 --> 08:25.180] that traffic from me and then keep it moving towards Michigan. And so in this example, which [08:25.180 --> 08:30.840] is a real world piece of traffic I sent, that station then relayed it over the digital traffic [08:30.840 --> 08:38.560] network to a traffic handling node in Indiana that is set up, you could kind of think of it like an [08:38.560 --> 08:44.020] email server, except there's no internet involved or anything. You're going over the air for all [08:44.020 --> 08:50.280] this. It goes to that node, and then that node hangs on to it saying, okay, I have this message [08:50.280 --> 08:57.700] stored that's on its way to Michigan. Station in Michigan connects to that node and checks, do I [08:57.700 --> 09:03.740] have any traffic that I could take to my area for local delivery, finds that there, then says, okay, [09:03.740 --> 09:09.560] I'll take it, it gets relayed to their station. And then in this case, that station happened to be [09:09.560 --> 09:15.740] five miles from my family member up there in the thumb region. And so hop on the phone, and they [09:15.740 --> 09:21.700] make that last mile delivery by phone. The vast majority of these are delivered by phone as the [09:21.700 --> 09:30.820] last mile. Can you do email? Yeah, but we like to have the personal touch for these kinds of [09:30.820 --> 09:36.420] messages, you know, the happy birthdays or things. Also gives a chance to explain, hi, I'm random [09:36.420 --> 09:40.780] amateur radio operator, and I'm calling you with this message, you know, kind of email would kind [09:40.780 --> 09:47.480] of get lost with that. And it also better reflects when we're in a disaster, and we're, you know, say [09:47.480 --> 09:52.600] we're sending that welfare message, hi, I'm okay. If you're on the receiving end, how would you prefer [09:52.600 --> 09:58.660] to get it? Would you like an email? Or would you like to have someone that calls and make sure that [09:58.660 --> 10:05.380] they know and say, hey, I got this message from your family member, it says that they're okay, [10:05.380 --> 10:11.220] they're at the shelter, you know, you have that personal touch and, and, and, and making sure that [10:11.220 --> 10:14.860] that message actually reaches the recipient, because if the phone call, you know, you get a [10:14.860 --> 10:19.540] busy signal or something, we try again, whereas with the email, we just kind of send it and, [10:19.540 --> 10:24.240] you know, then we don't know after that, unless they're nice enough to reply. [10:24.240 --> 10:28.120] So comment in the chat, that's why I got a call from a random ham when I got my license. [10:28.120 --> 10:37.540] So there are some traffic handlers that monitor the FCC database for new hams, they also will [10:37.540 --> 10:43.180] monitor for licenses, licenses that are about to expire, it just kind of depends on on how they [10:43.180 --> 10:46.360] want to approach it. And then they'll send the traffic, whether it's, you know, the welcome to [10:46.360 --> 10:53.800] the hobby, or your license expires on August 10, please be sure to renew if you haven't yet, [10:53.800 --> 11:00.620] those types of things. Those types of messages are good, because it helps introduce new hams [11:00.620 --> 11:05.280] to the hobby, to here's a whole nother facet of this hobby, right? There's a lot of different [11:05.280 --> 11:11.980] things you can do with amateur radio, whether it's, you know, doing digital, or FT8, or Morse [11:11.980 --> 11:19.000] code, or traffic handling, or, you know, emergency communications, Skywarn, or I just want to talk to [11:19.000 --> 11:23.620] France and know that I made it, or, you know, there's a lot of different things that you can [11:23.620 --> 11:30.060] do. And plus, I feel these messages help bring the personal touch to the hobby that, you know, [11:30.060 --> 11:36.680] we're all kind of in this, and we're glad that, you know, we're making those connections as hams. [11:36.680 --> 11:40.620] I know, you know, sometimes might only talk to another operator for a minute, [11:40.620 --> 11:45.740] but it's just cool to make that connection with other folks. But yeah, that's why you'll sometimes [11:45.740 --> 11:50.620] get that, you know, welcome to the hobbies and, you know, enjoy the fun and friendships you will [11:50.620 --> 11:54.500] make. You know, I've seen that piece of traffic enough times, I can, you know, write it in my [11:54.500 --> 11:59.700] sleep type of thing. If other questions or comments, again, feel free to throw them in the [11:59.700 --> 12:07.980] chat. We'll keep rolling here, though. So how does traffic handling help build your skill set as a [12:07.980 --> 12:17.720] ham? A lot of it is just how you interact on the air. Whether that you're on a traffic net, or a [12:17.720 --> 12:26.520] SkyWarn net, social net, you know, information net, those types of things. With traffic handling, [12:26.520 --> 12:36.440] well, we'll start at the top here. Slow is fast, right? We're trying to relay this message across. [12:36.520 --> 12:42.520] And, you know, if we're in a real disaster scenario, and I could think like the awesome mud [12:42.520 --> 12:48.300] slide up in Seattle, where a giant wall of mud comes sliding down the hillside and takes out [12:48.300 --> 12:54.660] square miles of land, and now you have a big mud pile with houses and trees and cell antenna towers [12:54.660 --> 13:00.120] and, you know, all that in it. And you're out there throwing a wire in a tree, hopefully, if [13:00.120 --> 13:04.940] you've got one nearby, and you're doing things, probably doing it by pen and paper. And so if you [13:04.940 --> 13:09.900] speak too fast, right, and I imagine you're trying to write it down on the other end. We need six [13:09.900 --> 13:14.580] cases of water and 12 cots and five, you know, the other person is just gonna, okay, I give up. [13:15.760 --> 13:23.660] Slow is fast. I only have to say it once. If I go too fast, then you're gonna, I need you to say [13:23.660 --> 13:28.480] that again, or could you say this again, or that, and we're gonna burn more time. And in the meantime, [13:28.480 --> 13:32.840] you have all this other traffic that could be waiting to move, but it's having to sit there [13:32.840 --> 13:38.120] and wait, because you're having to repeat the message a few times in order to get it across. So [13:39.080 --> 13:55.280] whatever you think slow is, go slower than that. Also helps if you enunciate certain words, [13:55.280 --> 13:59.080] just part of that speaking clearly, we want to try and get it across the first time [13:59.080 --> 14:06.300] if we can. And then I like to view this lens under the lens of you're not reading it, [14:06.300 --> 14:11.140] you're sending it. And I think that just puts a whole different context on what we're trying to [14:11.140 --> 14:19.200] achieve with traffic handling. We want the radiogram as, you know, whether it's sloppily [14:19.200 --> 14:28.880] as I've written it on here, we want it to arrive like almost a Xerox copy, like 99% of what's [14:28.880 --> 14:34.700] filled out on this is what should appear at the other end when it gets there. We want it there [14:34.700 --> 14:40.540] word for word and letter for letter. So again, when I think of it, I'm not reading it to the other [14:40.540 --> 14:46.460] station, I'm sending it, I'm relaying it across to the other station. It also helps you build [14:46.460 --> 14:52.840] familiarity with participating in NETS. I know one of the fun parts on some traffic NETS is [14:52.840 --> 14:58.560] the NET control station will say, please check in with your call sign phonetically only. [14:59.080 --> 15:03.580] And then you get, well this is Kilo 8 Alpha Mike Hotel and my name's Aaron and I'm in North Dallas [15:03.580 --> 15:08.740] and I have no traffic, you know. We just want you to check in with your call sign phonetically only. [15:08.740 --> 15:15.180] So participating in these NETS, you start to tune in on what exactly are the instructions from [15:15.180 --> 15:19.260] the NET control station. I mean, that applies with SkyWarn NETS. I don't know how many folks [15:19.260 --> 15:25.120] have jumped in on SkyWarn NETS and you always get that one, that, you know, minimum reporting [15:25.120 --> 15:30.920] criteria. I only want to know about half inch hail or cloud rotation. And then you get the [15:31.500 --> 15:37.180] sirens are going off. No one cares, so to speak. You know, if they're going off, we already know [15:37.180 --> 15:41.720] there's a tornado warning there. Thanks for telling us the sirens went off, but we want to [15:41.720 --> 15:48.080] know about hail and we want to know about, you know, cloud rotation, right? And so, you know, [15:48.080 --> 15:53.780] you get that, you get that feel from the NET control station by listening and Brennan's got a [15:53.780 --> 15:59.060] great comment. Listen, listen, listen. I would even say that for any NET. Before you jump in and [15:59.060 --> 16:05.200] participate, listen to it for a bit. Get a feel for how it operates before you jump in. It just [16:05.200 --> 16:09.800] helps you get into the groove of it a lot faster if you get the feel for how that NET runs. And [16:09.800 --> 16:14.960] we'll go over that a little bit more in the, in the, how the traffic NETs run. ITU Phonetics, [16:14.960 --> 16:20.600] they're the gold standard. So Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, Delta, Echo, Phosphorus. If you're on a [16:20.600 --> 16:25.840] local NET that's, that's focused on, on, on training as well as moving traffic, like we have [16:25.840 --> 16:30.680] here in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex, we have a two meter traffic NET happens twice a day. [16:30.840 --> 16:37.580] If you come in with a dog or a cat, you know, we'll, we won't hate it. But we will in time [16:37.580 --> 16:42.840] want you to build those ITU Phonetics. And if you're jumping in on a traffic NET that's like [16:42.840 --> 16:47.440] regional area, you're on HF and you're moving traffic, very much the gold standard. We're very [16:47.440 --> 16:52.860] much looking for ITU Phonetics. So this is a good way to practice those ITU Phonetics. ProWords. [16:54.100 --> 17:04.240] Say again, you're a traffic, or correction, or I Roger, you know, these types of ProWords [17:05.200 --> 17:10.720] not only apply to traffic handling, but they're, they're used generally in on air [17:10.720 --> 17:15.400] communications. So whether that's public safety dispatchers, if you've ever worked [17:16.560 --> 17:20.600] with, you know, police or fire, that type of thing, it's the same things. [17:20.600 --> 17:26.180] Can you repeat your traffic, please? Or, you know, that type of thing. Air traffic control. [17:26.180 --> 17:33.800] It's a good way to build your skills on phonetics before you get into the disaster. [17:34.120 --> 17:40.040] And we'll go over some of those ProWords in a bit. Alternate phonetics are frustrating. [17:40.900 --> 17:45.940] Always fun when you're working with the PD and it's Adam Boy King. And if you say, you know, [17:45.940 --> 17:52.320] Alpha Bravo Kilo, they kind of look at you. And they're like, sorry, I just used what everybody [17:52.320 --> 18:01.540] else uses. But yeah, Alpha Bravo. But it's, yeah, just, just, yeah, it's just fun. All right, [18:01.540 --> 18:07.700] let's keep going before I rattle on that any further. Brevity. So when we look at the blank [18:09.700 --> 18:17.900] radiograms, there are 25 spaces. And we want you to be quick and to the point. It's the same thing [18:17.900 --> 18:22.740] when you're, again, public safety, or if you're on a SkyWarnet, and you've got cloud rotation, [18:22.740 --> 18:26.900] you know, it's not time for a start. Well, I'm outside and it's windy. So I looked up and I saw [18:26.900 --> 18:33.620] the cloud spin funny. And I watched it, you know, get to the point. What is it? I'm at XYZ [18:33.620 --> 18:40.420] intersection and the cloud rotation has started and there may be lowering. Yeah, that's the crux of [18:40.420 --> 18:46.020] the message. And so same thing with radiograms. You know, if you can say it in five words rather [18:46.020 --> 18:52.880] than 10, well, then say it in five words, you know, that type of thing. Okay, don't know how [18:52.880 --> 18:57.720] many folks have dived into the Incident Command System, maybe as part of ARIES, Amateur Radio [18:57.720 --> 19:03.880] Emergency Service. Fun fact, that's actually sister programs. So National Traffic System and [19:03.880 --> 19:11.500] ARIES are our sister programs in ARL's public safety programs type of thing. If you're moving [19:11.500 --> 19:17.600] 213s over the air, the way I like to think of it is if I'm walking into the disaster, and I got to [19:17.600 --> 19:22.360] have someone sit down at the radio and handle moving those 213s, and I've got two options, [19:22.360 --> 19:26.840] I've got someone that's never moved anything ever, or I've got someone that's moved a bunch [19:26.840 --> 19:30.940] of radiograms to the traffic system, you know, who am I going to pick? I'm going to pick the person [19:30.940 --> 19:37.580] that's got the experience. And why is that? I love this quote at the top, when the disaster begins, [19:37.580 --> 19:44.600] the time to prepare ends. It's really been interesting watching, you know, like with the [19:44.600 --> 19:50.920] COVID-19 pandemic and folks, you know, what am I going to do to this? Like, well, we're in it now, [19:50.920 --> 19:59.800] so you're not, you're not preparing anymore, you are reacting, right? And so for folks that, [19:59.800 --> 20:04.820] you know, I know I get the tinfoil hat sometimes of why I have, you know, water and some, you know, [20:04.820 --> 20:11.220] awful tasting food that if I had to eat it, I would, but, you know, how do you get, you know, [20:11.220 --> 20:16.820] how do you prepare beforehand by practicing? Because once we're in the disaster, that's not [20:16.820 --> 20:23.360] the time to learn, that's the time to go. And so build those skills up before you get in there, [20:23.360 --> 20:32.300] if you can help it. Mistakes, we'll talk about that here. Any, any questions that you have, [20:32.300 --> 20:37.900] again, throw them in the chat, feel free to throw them in there. We'll keep rolling here. [20:38.860 --> 20:41.740] I like to say that smart mistakes are okay. [20:44.560 --> 20:46.900] When you go to learn, [20:48.420 --> 20:52.700] that's just part of it, you know, sometimes it's just, oh, I didn't quite understand that right, [20:52.700 --> 20:57.900] or that type of thing. So if you're on a traffic net, and you make an error, and you know it, [20:57.900 --> 21:02.500] then just correct it, you know, oh, correction, and that's a pro word, correction, and we'll go [21:02.500 --> 21:08.060] over that. Or if someone gives you some feedback over the error, you know, well, first, hopefully [21:08.060 --> 21:15.860] they're kind about it. But, you know, we're giving that feedback to help you tune your skills, [21:15.860 --> 21:22.620] so that you can jump in and have those skills built before we get into the disaster. [21:22.840 --> 21:27.740] And especially when I know there are new traffic handlers joining in on the traffic nets, and, [21:27.740 --> 21:32.740] you know, sometimes look at that. Aaron is just being cranky, because, you know, I want to get [21:32.740 --> 21:40.820] those habits built early. Because if you start to learn it wrong, and then we come back and try and [21:40.820 --> 21:46.160] well, this is actually how it should go, it's a lot harder to unravel all of that muscle memory [21:46.160 --> 21:50.640] you've built, versus if we catch it in the beginning. So when you, if you get started [21:50.640 --> 21:54.720] on a traffic net, and it's like, well, here's some feedback, that type of thing, we want to [21:54.720 --> 21:59.080] help you build that skill set right from the beginning, rather than having to come in later [21:59.080 --> 22:03.060] and go, well, now you need to, you know, change it, and then you're going to be the, you know, [22:03.060 --> 22:06.640] I keep forgetting, I keep forgetting. So we want to get that built right in the beginning as you [22:06.640 --> 22:13.980] get rolling. If there's one thing that I can have you walk away with, from this talk, without going [22:13.980 --> 22:23.540] too deep into the psychology world, you know, the biggest question I get is, I'm going to get on the [22:23.540 --> 22:27.980] air, and I'm going to get on the traffic net, and I'm going to make a mistake, and I'm going to sound [22:27.980 --> 22:39.680] stupid. We've all been there. I have been traffic handling for a bit, and I still make mistakes. [22:39.720 --> 22:45.100] And I like to joke that, well, I'm putting the amateur in amateur radio today, I made a mistake, [22:45.100 --> 22:50.760] right? And we just keep rolling with it. I acknowledge a mistake, and we keep rolling. [22:50.760 --> 22:55.560] And it's the same thing, if someone else jumps in, and there's a mistake, it is not the end of [22:55.560 --> 23:02.520] the world. This is how we learn and grow. We embrace something that's new. Hopefully, we try [23:02.520 --> 23:10.260] and build our base knowledge before we jump in, rather than jumping in blind. But, you know, when [23:10.260 --> 23:16.640] mistakes happen, that's when learning occurs, and that's how we build those skills. So, you know, [23:16.640 --> 23:22.280] if you have folks that, you know, how do I overcome that fear? Jump in. You know, that's the best [23:22.280 --> 23:30.420] advice I can give you is just roll with it. Okay, that's kind of the 30,000-foot view of the [23:30.420 --> 23:35.880] traffic system and kind of the skills you can get. This is a really good kind of the meat part of it. [23:35.880 --> 23:41.540] But I'll check with folks, any questions on that kind of 30,000-foot view? Again, I could go into [23:41.540 --> 23:51.320] the different, you know, what are different traffic nets and regions and that type of thing. But, you [23:51.320 --> 23:55.700] know, can be kind of boring as you're starting out. So, you know, I'll take an opportunity to [23:55.700 --> 24:07.600] fuel for a bit. And then if no questions, we'll jump into the radiogram. Mistakes are always... [24:08.300 --> 24:12.120] All right. So, the comment in the chat. So, for the recording that, you know, folks know. Our local [24:12.120 --> 24:17.180] ADS is also training that mistakes are always welcome. Yeah, we try to help folks learn and [24:17.180 --> 24:22.200] grow and that type of thing. And even, you know, maybe it's, let's just talk offline by email real [24:22.200 --> 24:28.120] fast and let me help clarify type of thing. Yeah, it's always... Our goals with training nets is to [24:28.120 --> 24:32.500] help folks build their skills. All right. We'll move into the radiograms. And again, any questions, [24:32.500 --> 24:38.080] just throw them in there. So, why radiograms? It's still the same thing. Why ICS-213? It's the [24:38.080 --> 24:42.880] general message form. It's the standardized message format that we're all using. So, whether the [24:42.880 --> 24:49.980] radiograms here in the U.S. or it's up to Canada or it's across to Germany or whatnot, it's the same [24:49.980 --> 24:55.980] form. And it allows us to effectively move the traffic across the board [24:56.700 --> 25:01.780] in a way that's traceable. And this is the one thing I really like about the radiograms versus [25:01.780 --> 25:08.540] the 213s. We have some things in the header and things to help track it and help to try and make [25:08.540 --> 25:13.760] sure words aren't lost as it moves in transit or things like that. But if we do have a radiogram [25:13.760 --> 25:21.520] that disappears into the ether, and it does happen, we can start to follow that message across. [25:21.520 --> 25:26.920] All right, who did you relay it to? And okay, you got it. And who did you send it to? And [25:27.860 --> 25:32.440] sometimes we'll send that follow-up and then suddenly the message appears at its destination. [25:32.440 --> 25:35.880] It's like, well, it got hung up somewhere and, you know, that type of thing. But [25:35.880 --> 25:43.240] we can follow them through if we need to. So, this is the form. If you've printed it out, [25:43.760 --> 25:49.260] we'll have you try and fill one out in a bit. But we'll walk through how this works first. [25:49.540 --> 25:56.820] A little bit of animations in here. And it's sort of smooth when it goes over online. So, [25:56.820 --> 26:02.780] hopefully, it's not jumping too bad. But, you know, for the conversation, [26:02.780 --> 26:09.760] it won't affect things. But, you know, okay. So, we'll break the radiogram into these blocks. [26:09.760 --> 26:16.420] And the first one is the roughest one. So, we'll spend a little extra time in it. And then the [26:16.420 --> 26:24.440] rest of them will be easier. So, the header, overall, just is what helps us track that [26:24.440 --> 26:28.120] message. You can think of it like the email header. Like, who's it from, who's it to, [26:28.120 --> 26:34.620] so to speak. But two gets its own spot on a radiogram. But this is what helps us to track [26:34.620 --> 26:41.860] these things. It starts with a number. And this number is assigned by whoever first fills out [26:43.080 --> 26:47.800] the blank radiogram. So, if I have one of these and I start filling it out, [26:48.460 --> 26:54.120] I would give it a unique number so that I can track it in my records. There's no standardized [26:54.120 --> 27:01.280] way of doing this. I started with one. And then my second one was two. And my third one is three. [27:01.280 --> 27:06.420] Some folks will go by the month. So, if it's March and it's their first one, they'll go 301 and the [27:06.420 --> 27:13.720] next one will be 302. And then when, you know, it's July, so 701, 702. It's kind of however you [27:13.720 --> 27:20.460] want to do it. And then you can reset them, you know, periodically if you want. So, maybe the [27:20.460 --> 27:25.120] first of the year, you go back to one. Some stations do it by month. Again, it's just kind of [27:25.120 --> 27:30.260] however you want to do it. I've been rolling with the same numbers for a few years. I'm at 390 [27:30.260 --> 27:35.320] something. And I might go back to one when I hit 500 or something like that. But again, [27:35.320 --> 27:40.620] this is just for your own records. This and everything else that we're going to talk about, [27:40.620 --> 27:45.780] aside from the little tracking items at the end, will all stay exactly the same as this moves [27:45.780 --> 27:49.960] through the system. So, your number will stay attached to this all the way through. And then [27:49.960 --> 27:54.940] if we have to come back and ask you a question, you know, we have a question about your number one, [27:54.940 --> 27:57.620] then you know how to go back in your records and do that. [28:00.820 --> 28:03.860] Precedence is... oh, here's a good question in the chat before I jump into precedence. [28:03.860 --> 28:09.680] Are we required to archive our messages? It is a good practice to hang on to them. [28:10.620 --> 28:15.580] And I would hang on to them for maybe one or two months. Now, this is for routine traffic. [28:15.580 --> 28:20.940] I would hang on to them for a month or two. Just in case there's that odd question, [28:20.940 --> 28:24.440] you know, one month is good. I think two is some extra insurance. [28:25.180 --> 28:31.300] And then you can discard them however you want to do that. I keep mine electronically now. [28:31.320 --> 28:36.720] I started with paper and I think that's a really great way to begin. I find that [28:36.720 --> 28:41.400] by actually having the physical page and filling it out by hand and things, [28:41.400 --> 28:47.420] I learn it better that way for me. And so, same thing with net controlling. When, you know, [28:47.420 --> 28:53.260] I started it was written down and I get the feel for it. If you start with software and then [28:53.680 --> 28:57.860] you wind up in the field and there are no computers and you're having to do it by paper [28:57.860 --> 29:01.380] and you've never done it by hand before, you're going to have a big learning curve [29:01.380 --> 29:05.120] versus if you build the skill with paper first and then transfer it. [29:05.120 --> 29:11.200] So, I would start with written documents and then hang on to them for about a month, [29:11.200 --> 29:16.240] maybe two, and then you can go ahead and, you know, recycle them, right? It's what you're [29:16.240 --> 29:20.140] supposed to do or, you know, that type of thing. That's a good question. Again, [29:20.140 --> 29:24.540] any others throw them in there. We'll continue precedence. This is back to that, [29:24.540 --> 29:28.720] you know, what's the urgency of this thing? Emergency, priority, welfare, or routine. [29:28.960 --> 29:34.340] When we fill out the radiogram, typically I'll just write R for routine. When I say it on the [29:34.340 --> 29:41.120] air, I say routine, but I'll write R. The only word that always gets spelled out is emergency. [29:41.120 --> 29:46.500] We want to call out the high level of importance of emergency traffic. So, the word emergency is [29:46.500 --> 29:52.800] always written out, but the others like priority, welfare, or routine, we just write their initial [29:52.800 --> 30:00.300] and we call it a day. Handling instruction. This provides some guidance on how the message [30:00.300 --> 30:08.020] should be handled as it moves through the system and also about delivery. I'm going to put them on [30:08.020 --> 30:14.960] screen. These are also in the handout if you happen to print it out. The most common one [30:15.760 --> 30:21.020] that you're going to see is Hotel X-Ray Golf, the last one, which basically says, [30:21.940 --> 30:27.060] please don't spend any money trying to deliver this. If you are going to have to spend money [30:27.060 --> 30:32.860] to deliver it, well then just cancel the delivery, but let me know. And that's what we mean by [30:32.860 --> 30:38.820] service originating station, is you send something back to whoever, you know, put that in the system [30:38.820 --> 30:44.540] to say, you know, unable to deliver or whatever that reason is type of thing. We'll go into that [30:44.540 --> 30:51.380] a little bit later. The one that is kind of despised in this list is Hotel X-Ray Delta, [30:52.200 --> 31:00.180] which is essentially real-time tracing. So if I introduce something with a Hotel X-Ray Delta [31:00.180 --> 31:07.700] instruction, what will happen is every time that message moves, those stations will need to send [31:07.700 --> 31:14.500] me a report on that movement. So I send it to someone else, they then relay it to the next [31:14.500 --> 31:20.620] station. At that point, that first station is supposed to say in a message back, okay, I relayed [31:20.620 --> 31:26.440] it to XYZ station at this date and time. And that station is supposed to send me something that says, [31:26.440 --> 31:31.880] okay, I got it from that first station at this date and time. And then when they move it on to [31:31.880 --> 31:36.460] the next station, the same thing happens again. Okay, at this date and time, I sent it off to [31:36.460 --> 31:40.920] that station. And then that station, same thing. At this date and time, I got it. And so every time [31:40.920 --> 31:47.780] it hops, it generates two messages back to whoever introduced it. It's great for tracking emergency [31:47.780 --> 31:55.320] things where you got to know that it's making progress. If it's a happy birthday, you know, [31:55.320 --> 32:00.120] type of thing, do we need that level of tracking on it? It generates a lot of traffic. If everything [32:00.120 --> 32:03.880] was sent with Hotel X-Ray Delta, there would be nothing but acknowledgements moving through the [32:03.880 --> 32:10.540] system. And so we reserve Hotel X-Ray Delta for those really urgent things. Or I've tried sending [32:10.540 --> 32:14.520] messages through and they're just not making it. I want to understand where the clog is. [32:14.520 --> 32:18.140] So let me trace this one and see what's going on. So I would only use Delta [32:18.640 --> 32:24.660] in extreme circumstances. So did I beat that horse? Good. Please don't use that one. [32:25.340 --> 32:30.760] It was really fun when it was used during field day one year. There was a lot of feedback on that [32:32.040 --> 32:36.960] group when they sent all their field day traffic with the tracer instruction on it. [32:39.160 --> 32:45.660] Does the reply go back down the chain or acknowledge to the originator only? So [32:47.520 --> 32:51.500] whether it's a Hotel X-Ray Delta, or let's say it's Hotel X-Ray Charlie, [32:51.500 --> 32:55.020] and you can use more than one of these. It's not like you have to pick one. You could do a bunch [32:55.020 --> 33:01.100] of them. Hotel X-Ray Charlie, report and date and time of delivery back to the originating station. [33:02.640 --> 33:11.640] You would write a radiogram back to whoever that radiogram was from with that information. [33:11.680 --> 33:17.400] And whether it goes back the same exact way that it came to you, or it goes through a completely [33:17.400 --> 33:23.200] different part of the system, it doesn't matter. It just starts making its way back to whoever [33:23.200 --> 33:27.740] introduced that piece of traffic. So yeah, it doesn't necessarily have to [33:27.740 --> 33:32.360] flow exactly back the way it came. It can work through the system through another channel. [33:34.180 --> 33:41.320] Okay, other questions? Throw them in the chat, please. Station of origin. This is effectively [33:41.320 --> 33:47.480] who's filling out the radiogram for the first time. So if you are filling out a radiogram to [33:47.540 --> 33:56.560] a family member, you are the station of origin. If you are filling out the radiogram on behalf [33:56.560 --> 34:03.500] of someone else that wants to put a message into the system, you are the station of origin. You are [34:03.500 --> 34:10.920] the first ham that is filling this in. So your call sign goes in the station of origin. And then [34:10.920 --> 34:16.200] back to that, you know, was it delivered or did I have a question? I know to come back to you, [34:16.200 --> 34:21.600] because you're the station of origin that brought this thing for the first time. And this station [34:21.600 --> 34:26.980] of origin will stay there through the whole journey. It does not change. None of this changes. [34:28.720 --> 34:33.100] Place of origin can be a little trickier. So we'll get to that in a sec. A station of origin [34:33.100 --> 34:37.700] is whoever is filling out the very first radiogram for that for the first time. [34:38.520 --> 34:45.400] The check is basically a way for us to see if any words disappeared or got added to the message. [34:45.400 --> 34:51.100] So it's a count of how many words are in the text. There are some shorthands we can use, [34:51.100 --> 34:57.760] and I'll go into those in a bit. If you use one or more shorthands, then we put A-R-L before the [34:57.760 --> 35:04.040] number to signify we're using shorthands in the message. But if you don't have any shorthands, [35:04.040 --> 35:09.040] then it's just, you know, count. You know, there are nine words in here. So the check is nine. [35:09.040 --> 35:13.460] And I'll show the example of that when I get some real traffic up on the screen. [35:13.460 --> 35:20.080] Place of origin. Okay, here's the curveball. This is the location of the person who authored the [35:20.080 --> 35:25.620] message. So if this is you writing a message to a family member, then it is where you are, [35:25.620 --> 35:32.340] city and state. If it's for you're on the phone with somebody, like I'm here in Dallas, [35:32.340 --> 35:36.820] and let's say I'm on the phone with someone in Fort Worth that wants to send a message, [35:36.820 --> 35:42.820] and I fill in the radiogram, the station of origin is who? It's me. I'm the one that's [35:42.820 --> 35:50.500] filling in the radiogram for the first time. The place of origin is where? Fort Worth. [35:50.520 --> 35:56.760] It's the location of the person who's authoring the text. So that's the fun curveball. Now, [35:56.760 --> 36:02.060] if you put, like if I were to put Dallas instead of Fort Worth, like the system will not implode. [36:02.140 --> 36:08.740] But the place of origin is whoever is is authoring the text. The station of origin [36:08.740 --> 36:12.940] is the first ham that's that's filling out the radiogram. [36:13.960 --> 36:18.520] Time filed is optional, just like the handling instruction is optional. [36:18.600 --> 36:24.500] But you should you should put the time filed. If it's emergency or priority or welfare traffic, [36:24.500 --> 36:30.580] we want to know the age of that in minutes. And also with the hotel x-ray Bravo instruction, [36:30.580 --> 36:35.280] which says, just cancel this if it's not delivered within so many hours. Well, [36:35.280 --> 36:40.080] I don't know how many hours went by. So definitely fill out the time filed for for those [36:40.080 --> 36:47.500] types of things. The traffic system uses universal coordinated universal time. So UTC or Zulu. [36:47.800 --> 36:54.160] If you don't indicate a time zone, then that's what's assumed. Universal time is what's assumed. [36:54.200 --> 36:58.220] If you are going to use the time zone, then make sure you put it in there. So whether that's [36:58.220 --> 37:02.240] central daylight time or eastern daylight time or that type of thing, [37:02.240 --> 37:05.040] then you'd put the time the time zone in there along with the time. [37:06.100 --> 37:12.360] Very rarely, though, is the time filled in. The date, this is really easy. First three letters [37:12.360 --> 37:19.800] of the month and then and the date. So, you know, January, I still say the whole word on the air, [37:19.800 --> 37:29.080] January 1-5, March 3, July 2-2. And notice how I give each number individually. The year is never [37:29.080 --> 37:33.980] included. If you got a piece of traffic that's a year old, then you know, probably, you know, [37:33.980 --> 37:38.740] time to give up on it. But, you know, we don't need the year. You know, these messages aren't [37:38.740 --> 37:44.760] that old. And it just burns time, right? We want to get these moved as efficiently as we can. So [37:44.760 --> 37:51.080] the year doesn't add any value. So we don't bother with it. And again, UTC. And same story, if you [37:51.080 --> 37:58.240] were to list a piece of traffic on a local traffic net, and, you know, it's 1030 p.m. here in Dallas, [37:58.240 --> 38:03.500] it's technically the next day in UTC. But if I if I don't put tomorrow on it, the world, again, [38:03.500 --> 38:09.880] does not end. But if we want to follow the rhythm of it, we would follow whatever universal time is. [38:10.500 --> 38:14.460] Comment in there, thanks for clearing up place origin. Yeah, that's a good time, isn't it? [38:15.420 --> 38:21.900] All right, so here's how I would read the header on the air. And again, this comes down to some net [38:21.900 --> 38:28.260] personalities. And on the Dallas-Fort Worth two meter traffic nets, I'm going to read it like how [38:28.260 --> 38:33.080] we would do it on there. You might find that your local traffic net is just a little bit different. [38:33.080 --> 38:39.800] So again, listen to pick up that net personality is what I like to call that. But I would say this [38:39.800 --> 38:50.100] header just like this, please copy message number 312, routine, Hotel X-Ray, Gulf, Kilo 8, Alpha [38:50.100 --> 39:05.060] Mike Hotel, 1-2, Dallas, Texas, 2-1-4-5, January 1-5. Now notice I don't have to say, okay, the [39:05.060 --> 39:10.020] number is 312, and the precedence is routine, and the station of origin is it. We're all using the [39:10.020 --> 39:15.880] same template. So we all know the order of things. We don't need to say the subject over and over [39:15.880 --> 39:20.080] again. Again, we're trying to move these efficiently, so we don't need to burn time on that. [39:20.100 --> 39:24.280] I did mention that two items are optional, the handling instruction and the time. [39:24.420 --> 39:31.100] So how would I read that if I didn't have those? I just skip them. Please copy number 312, routine, [39:31.100 --> 39:39.000] Kilo 8, Alpha Mike Hotel, 1-2, Dallas, Texas, January 1-5. Again, the other station will know [39:39.680 --> 39:44.140] that there is no handling instruction and there is no time filed. It's one of those rhythm of [39:44.140 --> 39:48.340] the business type of things. We know that those are optional. And so if you don't mention it, [39:48.980 --> 39:53.800] they're not there. And then we can keep moving with things. And comment, that's basically how [39:53.800 --> 40:00.440] the header is read here in Northern Virginia. A lot of this is, if you're really bored someday, [40:01.160 --> 40:13.500] there is a 400-plus page best practices PDF that I just hate. But if you really want to get in [40:13.500 --> 40:17.840] there and read it, there's a lot of reading you can do on traffic. And it's all been built just [40:17.840 --> 40:24.080] based on things learned over time. It's an excellent resource. But if I were to throw it at [40:24.080 --> 40:28.160] you and say, go read this 400-page thing, you're going to get lost. So a lot of this is like the [40:28.160 --> 40:36.800] 80% what you're going to see the vast majority of the time. But there is a best practices guide [40:36.800 --> 40:45.000] if you really want to get the big details on good traffic handling. That's the header. [40:45.000 --> 40:50.300] So that's the hard part. We're through it. Any questions on the header? [40:52.460 --> 40:57.260] I will keep moving into the address part next. But again, any questions, throw them in there. [40:57.880 --> 41:03.120] The address is the destinations. There we go. Yeah, methods and practices guide. Yeah, that's [41:03.120 --> 41:10.640] yeah, MPG. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. 400 pages of fun. This is essentially like sending [41:10.640 --> 41:15.340] any letter. First last name, call sign if they have one. Again, they don't necessarily have to [41:15.340 --> 41:20.320] have one. So if you want to send, you know, Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas, Happy Birthday to a [41:20.320 --> 41:25.520] family member that doesn't have a license, please do. But first last name, call sign if they have [41:25.520 --> 41:32.880] one address, city, state, zip and phone number. The last mile delivery is very much done by phone. [41:32.880 --> 41:40.620] So we ask that you include a phone number. If you include an email, that is an option. [41:43.200 --> 41:47.380] It removes that personal touch, but you know, some folks just don't want their phone number [41:47.380 --> 41:53.840] out there. We'll still deliver it by email. If you do include it, then you need to write it out. [41:54.360 --> 42:01.760] So like for this example, if it was jane.doe at example.com, then it's jane.doe [42:02.520 --> 42:11.460] at sign or at example.com. We spell all of those things out. We don't put, you know, [42:11.580 --> 42:15.400] a period or anything like for that. Because again, you're relaying it on the air. So how do you read, [42:15.400 --> 42:21.120] how do you, how do you say a period? You know, I mean, you would spell it out to indicate there [42:21.120 --> 42:30.040] is a dot there. So here, let's send this one as an example to jane.doe, address and phone number. [42:30.700 --> 42:38.860] And so I would read this like this. I would say that this is to jane. I'm gonna go a little faster [42:38.860 --> 42:43.140] just for sake of time. I would pause to give the other person time to write. So this is going to [42:43.140 --> 42:50.580] jane.doe, I spelled delta oscar echo, amateur call alpha romeo one tango, address figures one two [42:50.580 --> 42:59.900] three, mixed group eight five tango hotel, street, direction southeast, some town wisconsin, [42:59.900 --> 43:08.380] zip figures zero zero one two one, phone figures three three zero, five five five, four four two [43:08.380 --> 43:14.500] four, break. And a break is one of those fun ones. We'll talk about that in a second. This is your [43:14.500 --> 43:20.360] introduction to ProWords. And so in the reference guide, there's a whole list of these, but we'll [43:20.360 --> 43:27.120] cover some of the more common ones here. I spell means you're about to spell something. Good [43:27.120 --> 43:31.940] practice to do that with last names, because they can be fun. Also can be good to do that with first [43:31.940 --> 43:37.360] names. If it's john, is it j-o-n? Is it j-o-h-n? You know, that type of thing. So if it makes sense [43:37.360 --> 43:42.160] to spell it, go for it. But if you're going to spell it, make sure you kind of do that without [43:42.160 --> 43:50.580] pausing. So instead of doe, I spell... the other person's probably already tried to write it down [43:50.580 --> 43:54.260] at that point. So if you're going to spell it, then just go right into spelling it. So [43:55.040 --> 44:01.740] going to Jane, doe, I spell, Delta, Oscar, Echo, you know, and then keep going with it. Amateur [44:01.740 --> 44:06.580] call means you're about to give a call sign. Figures, whether address figures, or zip figures, [44:06.580 --> 44:11.860] or phone figures, you're about to get some some numbers. Mixed group means you're about to give [44:11.960 --> 44:18.320] a mixture of letters and numbers. Directions, really only used in the address. So it's just [44:18.320 --> 44:23.280] there to, you know, Northeast 8th Street, or Southwest this, or that type of thing. [44:23.360 --> 44:28.760] And then break. This usually throws a curveball, because I know a lot of Nets here in the [44:28.760 --> 44:35.540] Metroplex will have in the preamble, if you have emergency or priority traffic, at any time, [44:35.540 --> 44:41.780] say break, break, followed by your call sign. So sometimes it creates this, [44:41.780 --> 44:50.040] well, in this case, break indicates you're pausing. And so you would, you know, read the, [44:50.040 --> 44:54.720] you know, you'd relay the address and phone number and then break. And then you'd let up on push to [44:54.720 --> 45:01.320] talk. And you wait for that other station to come back to you with whether they need any fills. [45:01.340 --> 45:07.600] You know, I need you to repeat this or that type of thing. Or they will say go, or go ahead, [45:07.600 --> 45:12.320] go text. That means you can continue with the radiogram. They have everything. In the comment, [45:12.320 --> 45:16.500] we say break for text for clarity. And we'll have some folks do that here in the Metroplex, [45:16.500 --> 45:22.180] too. They'll say break for text to let you know that they're pausing before they jump into the [45:22.180 --> 45:31.480] text section. Op notes. And so this is not something that's commonly seen, but it can be, [45:31.480 --> 45:37.000] so I'll just mention it. Two places for op notes that they can appear in these. This is the first [45:37.000 --> 45:43.880] one. This one relates to handling or delivery. So in this example, I've put workday only. And so [45:43.880 --> 45:48.840] maybe the phone number I've given is a work phone number. And so why bother calling on the weekend? [45:48.840 --> 45:54.600] This helps that station that's about to do the delivery in this example, to have an idea of when [45:54.600 --> 45:59.140] to try making the phone call. So they're not burning time on, you know, a weekend attempt [45:59.140 --> 46:03.400] that's just, you know, going to lead to voicemail or something like that. Again, operational notes [46:03.400 --> 46:07.900] or op notes are optional, but for this first one, it gives, you know, some help to that [46:07.900 --> 46:11.980] delivering station or to those handling it if there's any extra information that that might [46:11.980 --> 46:19.180] help them when relaying this along. That's the addressee part. If you have questions on that, [46:19.180 --> 46:23.900] throw them in the chat. We'll go into this receiving station info part. This is really easy. [46:24.480 --> 46:31.020] The only time I ever fill this out is if I'm dropping the radiogram in the mail. [46:31.800 --> 46:38.700] This is your station information. And this can be helpful if you're putting it in the mail [46:38.700 --> 46:43.640] and you want that person to know how to get ahold of you if they have any questions or anything like [46:43.640 --> 46:50.840] that. Or if you're in an emergency or something like that, who filled in this radiogram? Then [46:50.840 --> 46:54.080] you put your information there and then that way if there are any follow-up questions, [46:54.080 --> 46:59.040] they know how to get ahold of you. Maybe it's a, we can't read this one word, can you read it for [46:59.040 --> 47:05.740] us? Or, you know, that type of thing. Otherwise, I know my name and my phone number and stuff. I [47:05.740 --> 47:10.060] don't need to fill it in. It's only helpful if I'm going to put it in the mail or something like [47:10.060 --> 47:13.380] that and, you know, someone else is going to be looking at it and if they have questions, [47:13.380 --> 47:17.720] they know how to get ahold of me. So that is virtually always blank for me. [47:19.160 --> 47:28.240] The text is the heart of the message. There are 25 spaces or 25 groups. I like to think of it as [47:28.240 --> 47:35.760] five dollars a word. Going back to that brevity and be concise and to the point, [47:36.560 --> 47:42.300] we want to very effectively relay these through the system and so the longer they are, the more [47:42.300 --> 47:48.780] time they take. If it's worth the extra five or ten dollars, then it's worth it. But if there's [47:48.920 --> 47:54.360] a way to be more concise and still get the message across clearly and effectively, then go for it. [47:55.180 --> 48:00.360] So let's say I wanted to send this. Great seeing you yesterday. Hope to get together again soon, [48:00.360 --> 48:11.200] 73. So in radiograms, punctuation, just like in the email, is spelled out. So periods are [48:11.200 --> 48:16.160] written as either the letter x, which we say is initial x-ray, or the whole word x-ray. Both [48:16.160 --> 48:21.980] will work. Others that you might see that aren't too common but they are used on occasion is if [48:21.980 --> 48:26.800] you have a question, the question mark is written as the word query. Exclamation points are written [48:26.800 --> 48:32.280] as exclamation. Not too often, but you're going to see a lot of x-rays in things. That's the [48:32.280 --> 48:39.280] most common one. And so here's how this would translate. Great seeing you yesterday, initial [48:39.280 --> 48:47.860] x-ray. Hope to get together again soon, figures 73. Now I didn't need to put an x-ray between soon [48:47.860 --> 48:55.820] and 73. I can kind of gather that that was the end of the sentence. And so why spend the five bucks [48:55.820 --> 49:02.660] to put a period there when I don't need it? And sometimes I'll still do it and I'm [49:02.660 --> 49:07.520] reading it on the traffic net and I say x-ray figures that I laugh at myself and I'm like, [49:07.520 --> 49:11.880] well that's how I read it, so go for it. But it's like, I guess I had extra five dollars in my [49:11.880 --> 49:17.560] pocket and let's go for it. But if you don't need that x-ray there, then no need to spend [49:17.560 --> 49:24.180] the five bucks type of thing. If it helps clarify things, I would include it. So if it was like a [49:24.180 --> 49:32.220] date, right, if it was on August 10, 73, then I would put an x-ray there. I'd spend the five bucks [49:32.220 --> 49:39.420] to make sure there's some clarity. On August, figures 1-0, initial x-ray, figures 7-3. [49:39.420 --> 49:44.120] Just gives that extra clarity that the 73 is not part of the year or that, you know, whatever might [49:44.120 --> 49:49.180] be next to it type of thing. Question in the chat, your responsibility to help format the message. [49:49.180 --> 49:57.900] So whether I'm filling it out for myself or on behalf of someone else, I own filling in the [49:57.900 --> 50:03.580] radiogram. I'm the one that's introducing it and making it for the first time. So I own whatever [50:03.580 --> 50:09.180] words get in there because as soon as I relay it on the air, ideally that's exactly how it's going [50:09.180 --> 50:14.460] to arrive on the other end. So when you're putting the message together, you know, go for brevity [50:14.460 --> 50:21.640] and things to, you know, to make sure the message moves effectively through the system. And, you [50:21.640 --> 50:27.300] know, if you have a word, if you were to send supercalifragilisticexpialidocious on a radiogram, [50:27.300 --> 50:34.640] I would really look at you like, why? You know, but in other words, you know, go for simplicity, [50:34.640 --> 50:39.860] but still get the point across. If you're moving a radiogram that says we need [50:40.780 --> 50:46.440] methotrexate like a medication, well, then that's worth it to say methotrexate. You're not going to [50:46.440 --> 50:51.600] simplify it any further than that as a medication, right? But, you know, again, try and be, you know, [50:51.600 --> 50:57.520] concise and efficient with your traffic when you go to author it before you bring it to the system. [50:58.080 --> 51:09.680] Questions on 73. Is it figure 73 or 73? When we have numbers in the text like this, we use the [51:09.680 --> 51:16.660] pro word figures to indicate that it's a number. And then we say each digit individually. So it's [51:16.660 --> 51:25.900] figures 73. We give each number individually. I mean, otherwise, you could you could get the, [51:25.900 --> 51:33.240] you know, if you say, you know, 146, or, you know, 146, or what, we want to standardize how [51:33.240 --> 51:37.120] we do that. And we want to do it in a way where we're going to make sure each number gets there [51:37.120 --> 51:43.420] clearly. So we give them one at a time, each digit individually. Do you have to get the sender's [51:43.420 --> 51:49.760] approval of the message? If it was an ICS 213, and you're working in an emergency operations center [51:49.760 --> 51:53.820] or something, then yeah, there's going to be someone that signs off on it. If you are authoring [51:53.820 --> 51:57.760] your own message, then you approve your own message type of thing. If you're on the phone [51:57.760 --> 52:02.300] with somebody and they want to send, you know, happy birthday, you know, type of thing, and you [52:02.300 --> 52:06.820] decide that you could say that in the shorthand, or, you know, that type of thing, you don't [52:06.820 --> 52:11.260] necessarily need to get their okay to say, well, I'm going to take that period out because we don't [52:11.260 --> 52:16.580] need it or, you know, that type of thing. You know, a lot of this is just, you know, good judgment [52:17.200 --> 52:23.860] on, you know, if someone's telling you, tell them, you know, tell them I'm glad to hear from them, [52:23.860 --> 52:29.840] and that I hope they're doing well. Well, you know, you can, you know, put that in the message [52:29.840 --> 52:35.200] right along those lines. You know, I am glad to hear from you. I am doing well. You know, [52:35.200 --> 52:39.460] I wouldn't cut it in half or anything like that. You know, try and follow what they're giving you. [52:39.460 --> 52:45.100] But the way I would do it on the phone is they'll tell me kind of what it is they want to say. [52:45.100 --> 52:48.640] And sometimes they're making it up as they say it. So it's not, you know, exactly ready, but [52:48.640 --> 52:53.760] I will type it out. And then when they're done, I'll say, okay, here's what I'm going to send. [52:55.300 --> 53:00.180] And then they'll go, okay, great. Or, well, can you add or, you know, that's kind of their sign [53:00.180 --> 53:05.280] off type of thing, just to verify that I've got everything that they wanted to say in that. So [53:05.280 --> 53:11.560] hopefully that gives you a good answer there. We'll keep moving. When you're putting the check [53:11.560 --> 53:16.640] together, things like x-ray and query count as a word when you're filling in the check. So if you [53:16.640 --> 53:25.880] look at what we've got on the text here, it's 12. Great seeing you yesterday. Initial x-ray are the [53:25.880 --> 53:31.280] first five. Hope to get together again are the next five. Soon figure 73 are the last two. So [53:31.280 --> 53:37.860] the check here is 12. And when I read that as part of the header, I would say one, two. [53:40.080 --> 53:44.320] And we'll put this all in the radiogram so you can see it all as a big picture. [53:44.740 --> 53:49.700] Again, I would pause between words, but, you know, for sake of time. Great seeing you yesterday. [53:49.700 --> 53:56.300] Initial x-ray. Hope to get together again soon. Figures 73. Break. So some more pro words that [53:56.300 --> 54:02.700] we can have here. Initials, or some say letter group, means you're about to give initials. [54:02.700 --> 54:09.100] Break. Break for a signature, because the signature is next. Again, we're giving that [54:09.100 --> 54:17.700] pause to see if that other station needs any fills. I need you to say again word after hope, [54:18.460 --> 54:25.620] or please spell yesterday, or, you know, things like that. If you get the please say all again [54:25.620 --> 54:31.100] after yesterday, that's a good sign you might have went a little too fast, and they just gave [54:31.100 --> 54:36.740] up. So slow down the next time. Affirmative or negative is much better than yes or no, [54:36.740 --> 54:41.260] because it's longer, so we have less chance of misinterpreting it type of thing. So affirmative [54:41.260 --> 54:48.000] or negative. And then correction, if you did make a mistake, then you can just say correction, [54:48.000 --> 54:54.080] and then whatever the correction is. You know, so great seeing you initial x-ray. Correction. [54:54.080 --> 55:00.500] Yesterday. I say again great seeing you yesterday. Initial x-ray. It gets you into that rhythm of [55:00.500 --> 55:09.000] putting that correction in and keeping things following. So the last part now, what if I'm a [55:09.000 --> 55:15.160] bad speller? Well, when you read it over the air, we won't know how you spelled it. We'll just know [55:15.160 --> 55:21.840] how you said it. But if someone asks you to spell something like methotrexate, right, try and get it [55:21.840 --> 55:27.440] right. But if something is introduced with a misspelling, and that's how it's handed to you [55:27.440 --> 55:33.540] as it's in transit, then relay it exactly as you got it. We're not in the middle of this [55:33.540 --> 55:37.500] to change the message while it's in transit, right? This is not the time for the telephone game [55:37.500 --> 55:45.280] where I start with, you know, I need two cases of bottled water, and it ends with I need five [55:45.280 --> 55:50.340] one-gallon jugs of iced tea or, you know, something. So if it has a mistake in it or things, [55:50.340 --> 55:56.860] move it along just as you got it. I wouldn't change anything like that. So if something comes [55:56.860 --> 56:00.660] in with a spelling mistake, it'll move through the system like that. As long as we know what [56:00.660 --> 56:08.840] it's saying, then we're okay. The signature. So this is the last part that would generally [56:08.840 --> 56:13.760] be filled out. It's below the text and above the sent and received info with no label. [56:14.720 --> 56:17.980] So it's just kind of one of those we-know-it-goes-there types of things. [56:17.980 --> 56:24.920] Generally, it's your name and your call sign if you have one. So in my case, it's Aaron K8AMH. [56:25.860 --> 56:31.340] This is how I would finish this message on the air. I would say, [56:31.340 --> 56:38.100] signed. So I've read the text, I break, the other station says, go ahead. I would say, [56:38.100 --> 56:48.500] signed, Aaron, amateur call, Kilo 8, Alpha Mike Hotel, end, number 312, no more, how copy? [56:50.220 --> 56:58.300] So, end means that's the end of the radiogram. Book traffic, we'll talk about in a second. [56:59.520 --> 57:04.380] No more is just how many you have left to relay to that station. So if you're like, I have three [57:04.380 --> 57:09.320] that are going to Michigan, then I would read the first one, I would say, end, number whatever that [57:09.320 --> 57:14.080] was, two more, how copy this one? And then the other station knows we still have some more to go. [57:14.720 --> 57:20.780] How copy, so did you copy it successfully? And then, you know, Roger, I Roger your number 312, [57:21.420 --> 57:26.080] good copy on 312, something like that, is how you'd know the other station [57:27.420 --> 57:32.520] has everything successfully. Now, this is the second place where op notes can appear. [57:32.940 --> 57:39.580] This is more commonly used, this is related to replies or servicing. And so for example, [57:39.580 --> 57:46.760] could have Aaron, Kiloweight Alpha Mike Hotel, op note, reply or service to KE5YTA. [57:47.120 --> 57:53.380] Effectively, what this is saying is, if you have a reply that you need to send to me, [57:53.380 --> 58:04.360] send it to me via KE5YTA, and his name's Roger. So the message would go to Roger. And I'll show [58:04.360 --> 58:09.580] this in a real radiogram of how this works. This is good for, like for Peter in Germany, [58:09.580 --> 58:17.160] how we get the messages back to him. So the last part of this is your tracking. So everything we've [58:17.160 --> 58:22.200] talked about so far, aside from the receiving station info, will not change in the radiogram [58:22.200 --> 58:27.700] ever. This will stay the same as it moves through the system. The received and sent info, this is [58:27.700 --> 58:34.160] for your tracking. Who did you get it from and who did you send it to? And so let's say I sent [58:34.160 --> 58:41.860] to Roger. I would put KE5YTA. I like to track what net I was on when I did that. That's optional, [58:41.860 --> 58:47.460] but that's just a little piece of extra info for me. And again, I use UTC here, you know, [58:47.460 --> 58:53.040] with the date and the time that I relayed it. And that way, if I need to go back and try and follow [58:53.040 --> 58:57.960] its journey, I have my records. Roger will have his records, and we can start tracing it [58:57.960 --> 59:06.980] through the system. So this is how this radiogram looks from everything that we've built up. So let [59:06.980 --> 59:13.260] me zoom in on it so we have a little bit better view. So the number precedence, we had no handling [59:13.260 --> 59:21.820] instructions, so that's blank. The origin is me, check of 12 Dallas, where it's headed, the message, [59:21.820 --> 59:27.280] signature, and then who I relayed it to after, you know, I moved it on the traffic net. [59:27.280 --> 59:43.960] Are there any questions on this example? And I'll buy you some time. I did not receive an [59:43.960 --> 59:51.380] email with the radiogram download or print. Okay, so if you go to k8amh.com forward slash [59:52.460 --> 59:57.860] handouts. Oh, is that plural? Let me go find out because I don't remember. [59:57.860 --> 01:00:01.900] Um, if the browser will open. [01:00:03.460 --> 01:00:07.760] I think it's plural. Yeah, okay. Thanks, Sean. Yeah. [01:00:09.240 --> 01:00:13.000] So I'll go ahead and let this open slowly for some reason. [01:00:15.940 --> 01:00:19.980] Come on, internet. There we go. You'll find the reference guide here on the left, and then I've [01:00:19.980 --> 01:00:27.140] got two copies of the radiogram forms. One that is not fillable, the other one that is. So if [01:00:27.140 --> 01:00:34.160] you prefer to fill it out on screen, then you've got it. Great. Any other questions or anything, [01:00:34.160 --> 01:00:40.140] feel free to throw them in there. What if we have the same message going to more than one person? [01:00:40.140 --> 01:00:44.320] So let's say it's, you know, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. And I'm sending it to three [01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:49.240] different people. We call that book traffic. It's just a nice way of saying that, well, [01:00:49.240 --> 01:00:54.860] the message itself is the same. I just have it going to different people. And then when I go to [01:00:54.860 --> 01:01:03.180] relay it on the air, I only need to read the text once. And then I just give the destination [01:01:03.620 --> 01:01:10.060] separately. Each radiogram still has its own number. So if I had, you know, three going to [01:01:10.060 --> 01:01:14.600] family members in Michigan, then, you know, if it was 312 is the first one, then the second one is [01:01:14.600 --> 01:01:20.120] 313, and the next one is 314. And then the address information would change, right, different [01:01:20.120 --> 01:01:26.280] destination, but the rest of it's the same. So I would relay this. There's two ways you could do [01:01:26.280 --> 01:01:30.800] it. One is where you just give the common parts, the parts that appear the same in all of them. [01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:40.380] In Dallas, we read the first radiogram all the way through the first time. So we start with [01:01:40.380 --> 01:01:47.380] number 312, routine, kilo-weight albumin, 2, Jane Doe, great seeing you, sign. And then the next one, [01:01:47.380 --> 01:01:53.060] we would say, okay, the next one in the book is number 313, and it's going to John Smith, [01:01:53.060 --> 01:01:58.900] 123 Fake Street, and number 313, one more in the book, a copy. And then the next one would be 314 [01:01:58.900 --> 01:02:05.580] going to, you know, Jane Smith, you know, type of thing. So again, listen to that net personality. [01:02:05.600 --> 01:02:08.900] But we don't need to read the whole header. We don't need to read the text over again or things [01:02:08.900 --> 01:02:12.940] in the comment, great for your field day traffic, book of 10. Yeah, it's just more, you know, speedy [01:02:12.940 --> 01:02:20.720] type of thing. It helps speed up moving things. And you think about the, you know, ARL 56, [01:02:20.720 --> 01:02:24.720] new amateur radio license, welcome to the hobby, enjoy the fun and friendships you will make, [01:02:24.720 --> 01:02:30.100] right? If, you know, someone like Lauren, November 1, India, Quebec, India, or Chris, [01:02:30.100 --> 01:02:37.060] November X-ray 9 kilo, and Jim, you know, are sending the same greetings that we just put that [01:02:37.060 --> 01:02:40.600] through as book traffic, only have to read the message once, and then we can go through all the [01:02:40.600 --> 01:02:47.520] destinations type of thing. Okay, I talked about shorthands. So we'll dive in these in a bit. [01:02:47.520 --> 01:02:57.260] Here's an example of where a shorthand is used. And so this is real, I just, I took out the name. [01:02:58.040 --> 01:03:01.700] ARL 56, new amateur radio license, welcome to the hobby, enjoy the fun and friendships you will [01:03:01.700 --> 01:03:10.700] make, 73. Fun how you just memorize those over time. We're using a shorthand here, [01:03:10.700 --> 01:03:18.820] because this does mean something, and it's in your handout, the ARL numbered radiograms. [01:03:20.140 --> 01:03:26.480] They provide a way for us to send common phrases very quickly. When you deliver it to the other [01:03:26.480 --> 01:03:29.940] end, of course, you're going to say what it means. Like I wouldn't say, okay, you got a message, [01:03:29.940 --> 01:03:34.880] this is ARL 50. You know, they're not going to know what that means, so tell them what it means. [01:03:35.020 --> 01:03:40.680] And then in the check, we indicate that we have a shorthand in use. And so the check of 1-2, [01:03:40.680 --> 01:03:46.660] you know, example would become Alpha Romeo Lima 1-2. Again, to flag the fact that we've used [01:03:47.440 --> 01:03:51.480] a shorthand. Here are some common ones. You have the full list of them in the handout. [01:03:52.260 --> 01:03:58.480] ARL 50, greetings by amateur radio. 56, congratulations on your, and then whatever, [01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:05.600] most worthy and deserved achievement. For servicing, if we want to tell a station we [01:04:05.600 --> 01:04:10.640] delivered their message, then it's ARL 47, and then we give the number and the destination and [01:04:10.640 --> 01:04:16.160] the date and time of delivery. If we couldn't deliver it, then ARL 67, and then we give the [01:04:16.160 --> 01:04:20.400] message number and maybe some other details, and then we explain why. You know, phone number, [01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:26.540] out of service, or no answer, you know, that type of thing. So when we look at this example, [01:04:26.540 --> 01:04:34.520] ARL 56, new amateur radio license, becomes congratulations on your, and this is the blank, [01:04:34.520 --> 01:04:39.700] so what follows this shorthand here, you know, new amateur radio license, initial x-ray, [01:04:39.700 --> 01:04:45.080] that's what goes in the blank. So congratulations on your new amateur radio license, a most worthy [01:04:45.080 --> 01:04:50.980] and deserved achievement. Welcome to the hobby. Enjoy the fun and friendships you will make. [01:04:50.980 --> 01:04:56.600] 73. That would be how I would deliver it to its destination. [01:04:58.520 --> 01:05:03.040] We spell out the numbers in these shorthands, and this is to help clarify that [01:05:03.040 --> 01:05:09.820] this is part of the shorthand. So I would read this as initials, Alpha, Romeo, Lima, [01:05:10.380 --> 01:05:17.560] 50, I spell, Foxtrot, India, Foxtrot, Tango, Yankee, six, I spell, Sierra, India, x-ray. [01:05:17.560 --> 01:05:24.600] We're spelling them to call out the fact that they are spelled out words rather than like [01:05:24.600 --> 01:05:30.560] figure 7-3, right? We want to clarify that these are written out words rather than [01:05:30.560 --> 01:05:34.900] some digits, and so that's why we spell them out like that. [01:05:36.440 --> 01:05:42.220] Some other quick examples, and then we can do maybe a little bit of hands-on. [01:05:42.220 --> 01:05:50.140] Let me zoom in on this just for fun. So ARL50, John, and congrats on new amateur radio license. [01:05:50.140 --> 01:05:58.140] X-ray, enjoy all that the radio community offers. X-ray, best regards. ARL50, [01:05:58.140 --> 01:06:04.720] remember what that is? It's greetings by amateur radio. And so that's how greetings by amateur [01:06:04.720 --> 01:06:11.600] radio, John, and congrats on it. Here we have the op note that Peter includes. [01:06:12.140 --> 01:06:20.060] So he signs it, Peter, DL4FN, op note reply or service message to him through Roger in Richardson, [01:06:20.060 --> 01:06:27.460] Texas. And so what this means, I see someone recognizes Peter's messages in the chat. What [01:06:27.460 --> 01:06:33.500] this means is that to send something back to Peter, so like if that other station wants to [01:06:33.500 --> 01:06:39.980] say thank you and hope to hear you on the air or whatever their reply is, or if it's I couldn't [01:06:39.980 --> 01:06:46.940] deliver it because the phone number is disconnected, I would send the reply to Peter, DL4FN, [01:06:46.940 --> 01:06:54.660] care of Roger, K-E-5-Y-T-A, in Richardson, Texas. So I won't send it to Germany. I'm going to route [01:06:54.660 --> 01:07:01.000] it to Roger here in Dallas, because Peter has asked Roger here in Dallas to act as kind of [01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:06.420] his liaison to get the messages back to him in Germany. So I'm going to send it back to [01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:12.680] Roger, and then Roger will relay it across to Peter. If that makes sense, how this op note [01:07:12.680 --> 01:07:18.360] works at the end. Again, this is relating to, you know, the replies or service messages. [01:07:18.380 --> 01:07:22.840] We're going to still send this reply to Peter, but we're going to route it to Roger, because [01:07:22.840 --> 01:07:28.800] that's who Peter's designated here in the U.S. for receiving, for working, you know, those replies [01:07:28.800 --> 01:07:37.320] back to him in Germany. Same thing here on this one. Peter's got the op note, you know, [01:07:37.320 --> 01:07:42.580] hello Gary, congrats on your new amateur license, you know, that type of thing. And these are ones [01:07:42.580 --> 01:07:48.700] I put in the mail, because I choose if I can't get a hold of them on the phone, then I mail them. [01:07:48.700 --> 01:07:53.320] It's a personal choice. And I fill out these details here in the, you know, the receive box, [01:07:53.320 --> 01:07:57.180] so that if they have any questions, they know how to get a hold of me. And I put a little [01:07:57.180 --> 01:08:01.400] letter with an explanation to just saying, you know, this is part of traffic handling, [01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:06.860] and here's what the message says, and that type of thing. All right, so we'll do a little hands-on. [01:08:07.300 --> 01:08:13.240] Let's say you're going to send something to me. There's my address and phone number, [01:08:13.240 --> 01:08:20.100] and you're going to send, hope to hear you on the band soon, and 73. So go ahead and take some time, [01:08:20.100 --> 01:08:24.940] if you've got your blank radiogram printed out. And if it's, you can make up the number, [01:08:24.940 --> 01:08:31.480] one or 500, or however you want to do that. But I'll give you a couple minutes. And in the meantime, [01:08:31.480 --> 01:08:48.170] if folks have questions, feel free to throw them in the chat. Again, more fuel, getting a little [01:08:48.170 --> 01:09:43.640] cooler, but I'll still work on it. Okay, we'll give you another minute here. So again, any questions, [01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:57.360] feel free to throw them in the chat. The handling instructions definitions list, [01:09:57.360 --> 01:10:03.020] excuse me, so that is also in the handout. So why don't I open it here, [01:10:03.020 --> 01:10:08.940] and we'll kind of walk through it very, very quickly. So at the beginning of this phonetic [01:10:08.940 --> 01:10:16.040] alphabet, because again, the gold standard, and then the handling instructions, and what they all [01:10:16.040 --> 01:10:26.800] mean. Precedences, so again, priority welfare emergency, and then common prosigns that are used [01:10:27.650 --> 01:10:36.420] in traffic handling. And then that's followed by the ARL shorthands. And there are two blocks of [01:10:36.420 --> 01:10:41.740] these. The first group is generally emergency related, you know, like supplies requests or [01:10:42.440 --> 01:10:47.980] comments on damage to the area or things. Group two is more for the routine-y things. [01:10:49.700 --> 01:10:52.520] You know, greetings by amateur radio, greetings on your birthday, [01:10:53.680 --> 01:11:17.530] you know, holiday greetings, and things like that. Other questions? So from a big picture, [01:11:17.530 --> 01:11:22.490] how do I initiate a message from a local level and get it to a regional relay? So the way it'll [01:11:22.490 --> 01:11:30.430] work, we'll go through this in the net discussion, is you'll bring it to a local traffic net, [01:11:30.430 --> 01:11:35.750] and then someone else that's also checked into that traffic net will be able to act as that bridge [01:11:35.750 --> 01:11:40.750] to a regional or area net, and then they'll take that there and move it there. And that's how it'll [01:11:40.750 --> 01:11:46.090] jump across. I think it'll become a little bit clearer when we get into the... pardon me, [01:11:46.090 --> 01:11:53.150] get into the... how the traffic nets work here in just a second. But that's kind of a quick answer, [01:11:53.610 --> 01:11:57.110] is when you bring it to the local level, you'll have folks that can take things to [01:11:57.110 --> 01:12:01.950] the regional area or things, and that's how it'll keep going. Yeah, there'll be liaisons to other [01:12:01.950 --> 01:12:06.510] nets. Yeah, we're going to walk through that. Yeah. All right. So let's keep moving. If you [01:12:06.510 --> 01:12:11.490] don't have it quite filled out, that's okay. This is effectively how it should look. [01:12:11.490 --> 01:12:19.570] So whatever number you put, and then routine, your call sign, a check of nine or a niner, [01:12:19.970 --> 01:12:25.730] your city and state, today's date, then my address and phone number, and then one word in each blank, [01:12:25.730 --> 01:12:30.650] hope to hear you on the band soon, figure seven three, and then your name and your call sign here [01:12:30.650 --> 01:12:38.470] in this little tiny spot. Anybody have any questions on how we filled it out this way, [01:12:38.470 --> 01:12:43.150] or if you had something a little different, or anything that I can clarify on this? [01:12:43.910 --> 01:12:49.070] I'll give you about 30 seconds, and then we'll jump in a little bit. We got a little bit more [01:12:49.070 --> 01:12:54.410] to go. We're not doing horrible on time. We've got maybe another 10, maybe 15 minutes. I added [01:12:54.410 --> 01:13:00.930] an initial x-ray. So again, so that's the comment. I added an initial x-ray in the chat. [01:13:00.930 --> 01:13:12.630] So if you put an x-ray between soon and 73, you can do that. Is it necessary? Not necessarily. I [01:13:12.630 --> 01:13:18.430] know the sentence ended here at soon. If you put it, you can put it. But I personally like to save [01:13:18.430 --> 01:13:26.570] the five dollars, and so I don't put an x-ray there for a period. Another question, what's the [01:13:26.570 --> 01:13:36.710] rationale for place of origin? So again on this, this is the location of whoever authored this [01:13:36.710 --> 01:13:48.050] text. The rationale for that, yeah. So this is so that we know where the message came from. [01:13:48.190 --> 01:13:54.470] Because again, if you are the station of origin, like if I'm filling it out, and I'm in Dallas, [01:13:54.470 --> 01:14:02.370] the people that are authoring that message are in Fort Worth. And if I say, I need five [01:14:02.370 --> 01:14:10.350] cots at Mercy Hospital, Mercy Hospital in Fort Worth, or Mercy Hospital in Dallas, or Mercy [01:14:10.350 --> 01:14:19.090] Hospital. It just helps provide some of that clarity, first off. And then also, as Darwin's [01:14:19.090 --> 01:14:23.870] put in there, I think it's to help replies go back to the proper local net. It does help with [01:14:23.870 --> 01:14:31.370] routing, because we've got that clue in there of where we can head it back to for its destination. [01:14:31.890 --> 01:14:36.450] But when we think about emergency traffic or things, just, you know, where did this come from? [01:14:37.250 --> 01:14:41.510] You know, Kilo 8 Alpha Mike Hotel, that's an 8. So this must have come from Michigan or West [01:14:41.510 --> 01:14:46.810] Virginia or something, right? No, it's coming from Dallas, Texas. And so, you know, if I don't have [01:14:46.810 --> 01:14:54.030] access to the FCC ULS, the, you know, Universal Licensing System, or things like QRZ to look up [01:14:54.030 --> 01:14:59.070] addresses, then this is my clue. Place of origin, at least for me, when I sent it, [01:14:59.070 --> 01:15:03.530] would be Dallas, Texas. And that's how you'd know how to route it back to me type of thing. [01:15:05.030 --> 01:15:09.510] Yeah, other questions on this? Feel free to throw them in the chat. I'm gonna [01:15:09.510 --> 01:15:13.950] keep rolling just to try and keep conscious of time here. [01:15:14.770 --> 01:15:20.490] So now on traffic nets, I won't dive into this too much. It's pretty much like any other net you've [01:15:20.490 --> 01:15:25.130] hopefully joined where you get the preamble, you know, welcome to the traffic net. My name is and [01:15:25.130 --> 01:15:30.110] I'm your net control station. And I will now take check-ins from stations with traffic, which means [01:15:30.110 --> 01:15:36.350] you're bringing a radiogram that you want to introduce into the system or relay through the [01:15:36.350 --> 01:15:41.430] system. And then you can take check-ins from stations without traffic, which means I don't [01:15:41.430 --> 01:15:46.970] have any radiograms to relay, but I'm here if you need help relaying things. And then after that, [01:15:46.970 --> 01:15:52.010] the relaying begins. Two stations will connect together on the air. And then this is... I'm [01:15:52.010 --> 01:15:56.950] doing this as a voice net because that's how many folks here at Dallas get started on traffic nets [01:15:56.950 --> 01:16:02.430] is at the local level. You know, if it's a CW net or things, you know, you follow similar. [01:16:03.210 --> 01:16:08.590] Here's how a net control could log things. For this one, I was the one that was running the net. [01:16:09.950 --> 01:16:16.210] And so, of course, I tracked myself as the as the net control station. Next, we had Calvin [01:16:16.210 --> 01:16:24.310] check in. He brought a piece of traffic for Bowie, Texas. Then Don, W9BE, checked in. He acted as a [01:16:24.310 --> 01:16:31.950] liaison for TEX, the Texas Traffic Net, which that for me as a net control station tells me [01:16:31.950 --> 01:16:40.810] an option on how to route traffic out of Dallas-Fort Worth. I have this option for moving [01:16:40.810 --> 01:16:47.650] traffic out of the area. Same thing with Roger, K85YATA. He interfaces with the digital traffic [01:16:47.650 --> 01:16:54.210] net. And if I have to send something Michigan, Wisconsin, you know, Washington State, something, [01:16:54.210 --> 01:16:59.850] then I know that Roger is an option to move things out of the area through the digital traffic net. [01:16:59.850 --> 01:17:05.370] Same with John. Roger, in this case, brought a book of five. So it's the same text and things [01:17:06.350 --> 01:17:11.630] going to five different destinations. Two of those were in Dallas, one in Plano, one in Prosper, [01:17:11.630 --> 01:17:17.070] one in Melissa. And then John also had his a book of three, separate book, but book of three. [01:17:17.110 --> 01:17:21.810] And then he had one and another one that's not part of the book. [01:17:22.670 --> 01:17:29.010] And then last, Corky checked in with a net report, which is how we turn in our statistics [01:17:29.770 --> 01:17:34.210] and they get reported to me and then I report them to our headquarters. But how do we turn [01:17:34.210 --> 01:17:41.270] in those net reports? Well, through a radiogram. So, okay, let me turn off the pointer and we'll [01:17:41.270 --> 01:17:47.350] keep moving. So the way this would work is after figuring out who can route what, [01:17:47.350 --> 01:17:58.990] the net control station would have those two stations connect, you know, and say, okay, I'm, [01:17:58.990 --> 01:18:03.250] they would read the header and the address and phone number and then break. [01:18:03.350 --> 01:18:07.190] And then I would either say, please say again, phone number, or please say again, [01:18:07.190 --> 01:18:12.790] city, or please spell city. Or when I'm ready to go, I would say, go, go text, go ahead. [01:18:13.610 --> 01:18:21.030] Other station would then read the text section one word at a time, and then break. And then I [01:18:21.030 --> 01:18:27.090] would say, you know, please say again, word after blah, or go, go ahead, go signature, [01:18:27.090 --> 01:18:32.690] then they would read the signature, you know, sign some da da da, end number, whatever, [01:18:32.690 --> 01:18:38.110] no more or one more, how copy, I Roger your number, whatever, you know, thanks for the traffic [01:18:38.110 --> 01:18:42.950] and then K8AMH, and they, you know, thank you for taking that and ID and then turn it back to net [01:18:42.950 --> 01:18:49.890] control. That's how, that's how you would flow. I see the questions on how to get involved. I'll [01:18:49.890 --> 01:18:55.150] jump into that in just a second. So the way I would move this is I would say, please copy my [01:18:55.150 --> 01:19:01.730] number three, and I'm going to go fast. Please copy my number 312, routine, K8AMH, 1-2, Dallas, [01:19:01.730 --> 01:19:12.030] Texas, January 1-5, to Jane Doe, amateur call, Alfa Romeo 1-Tango, address figures 1-2-3, [01:19:12.030 --> 01:19:19.810] mixed group 8-5 Tango Hotel, street, direction southeast, some town Wisconsin, zip figures [01:19:19.810 --> 01:19:29.550] 0-0-1-2-1, phone figures 3-3-0-5-5-5-4-4-2-4, break, and the other station go ahead, great [01:19:29.550 --> 01:19:38.750] seeing you yesterday, initial x-ray, hope to get together again soon, figures 7-3, break, [01:19:38.750 --> 01:19:43.770] and the other station would say go, signed Aaron, amateur call, Kilo 8, Alfa Mike Hotel, [01:19:43.770 --> 01:19:49.570] number 312, and no more, I'll copy. And the other, I copy, Roger, you're 312, [01:19:49.570 --> 01:19:54.430] thanks for the traffic, thanks for taking K8AMH back to NET. So that's how we would [01:19:54.430 --> 01:20:01.330] move that on the air. How do you get involved in the traffic nets? I would recommend finding, [01:20:01.330 --> 01:20:11.010] if possible, a local traffic net in your area. The ARRL, main webpage, ARRL.org, [01:20:11.010 --> 01:20:18.230] has a NET database that you can search. And let me make a note, I will put that in my follow-up email, [01:20:19.410 --> 01:20:27.170] how to search local NETs. And you can find local NETs and regional NETs and things, [01:20:27.170 --> 01:20:33.990] and then get involved that way. Find the NET at your local level, or if not available, find a [01:20:33.990 --> 01:20:39.590] regional or area NET on HF. Again, listen, I recommend you listen in the beginning, get a feel [01:20:39.590 --> 01:20:45.490] for that NET and how it flows, and then you can start jumping in and participating. I know, like, [01:20:45.490 --> 01:20:51.350] for example, here at the 7290 traffic net, the first time you check in and, you know, participate [01:20:51.350 --> 01:20:56.490] in the NET, even if you don't move any traffic, they send you a radiogram thanking you for finding [01:20:56.490 --> 01:21:01.090] them and for jumping in on the NET. They're very happy to hear from folks that join in. [01:21:01.410 --> 01:21:06.490] Lots of good NETs and lots of excitement when folks want to jump in type of thing. [01:21:12.340 --> 01:21:21.580] Okay, great presentation. We got Aaron and Justin here in Discord to do a demo for us. [01:21:21.580 --> 01:21:29.100] So I'll let you guys take it from here, and we'll do some questions afterwards. Go ahead. [01:21:32.320 --> 01:21:38.240] All right, I'll take it, I guess. Everybody, thanks for jumping in. We'll do a couple of [01:21:38.240 --> 01:21:46.400] practice radiograms here. If you've printed them out from the handouts page, and I promise I'll go [01:21:46.400 --> 01:21:55.580] nice and slow. You could give this a spin to see how it flows for you when filling out the radiogram, [01:21:55.580 --> 01:22:01.500] and then if there's any questions on, well, what happened there, or what did that mean, [01:22:01.500 --> 01:22:06.520] or those types of things, we've got some time here to take questions. So hopefully I've bought [01:22:06.520 --> 01:22:11.360] enough time for folks to get their blank radiograms handy. I'll just go ahead and start [01:22:12.460 --> 01:22:16.660] doing this. If this works, or do you want to do questions first, let me double check [01:22:17.780 --> 01:22:22.360] to make sure I'm good to go with the relaying. Let's go ahead. All righty, then we'll go ahead [01:22:22.360 --> 01:22:33.920] and get started. And this will be number 809-routine, Kilo 8 Alpha Mike Hotel, [01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:46.260] 1-4, Dallas, Texas, August 9-r, to your station. That's how we would do that on the air [01:22:46.260 --> 01:22:51.520] when it's going to the recipient is the same ham. So going to your station, [01:22:51.520 --> 01:23:04.400] break. This is where somebody would say go. So I'll assume I gotta go. Thank you for attending [01:23:06.110 --> 01:23:15.600] today. Hope to get some traffic [01:23:19.440 --> 01:23:30.580] from you soon. Figures 7-3, break. And again, I, you know, say again or something, but you know, [01:23:30.580 --> 01:23:38.360] go, you know, we'll do go signature. That's signed Aaron Amateur Call, Kilo 8 Alpha Mike Hotel. [01:23:38.360 --> 01:23:42.800] End number 809-r, and no more. I'll copy. [01:23:44.540 --> 01:23:51.720] And so hopefully that first, hopefully I was slow enough. So yeah, I learned with some stations, [01:23:51.720 --> 01:23:56.160] I can go faster than with others. And so I try to adjust the speed based on that. [01:23:58.060 --> 01:24:01.120] I don't know if we can throw that one up on the screen. [01:24:01.120 --> 01:24:02.480] Yeah, you're ready for the reveal? [01:24:02.700 --> 01:24:08.360] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure thing. And then if any questions on, well, why did that go there? Or [01:24:09.360 --> 01:24:12.540] that was really confusing. How come this? Or, you know, that type of thing. [01:24:14.140 --> 01:24:20.660] Yeah, definitely wanted to give that clarity type of thing. Or if you're experts, then you [01:24:20.660 --> 01:24:26.480] could take Justin. And, you know, we'll double check that, you know, things are good. And then [01:24:26.480 --> 01:24:32.280] we had some questions during the presentation part. I want to jump in on those as well. And [01:24:33.020 --> 01:24:40.560] if any other questions type of thing. Otherwise, silence is acceptance. [01:24:40.560 --> 01:24:43.720] Let's go to Justin's demo here. [01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:49.220] Sure. All right. Well, yep, I have one more if you want to try it again. And again, as they say, [01:24:49.220 --> 01:24:53.040] every NAT usually has their own personality. So mine might sound a little bit different. [01:24:53.100 --> 01:25:00.380] So I'll go ahead and get started. Please copy message number one, three, routine, [01:25:00.380 --> 01:25:11.120] kilo, echo, eight, Mike, Yankee, Foxtrot, one, eight, Grand Rapids, I spell Romeo, Alpha, Papa, [01:25:11.120 --> 01:25:22.540] India, Delta, Sierra, Michigan, August 9. Going to your station. Break. [01:25:23.500 --> 01:25:25.360] Go. [01:25:25.820 --> 01:25:27.600] All right. [01:25:27.800 --> 01:25:28.960] Thanks [01:25:29.500 --> 01:25:30.940] for [01:25:31.500 --> 01:25:32.520] attending [01:25:33.500 --> 01:25:34.480] this [01:25:35.500 --> 01:25:37.680] talk. [01:25:37.760 --> 01:25:38.340] And [01:25:39.400 --> 01:25:39.980] hope [01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:44.920] to, I spell Tango Oscar, [01:25:44.920 --> 01:25:45.600] C, [01:25:45.600 --> 01:25:49.080] I spell Sierra, Echo, Echo, [01:25:49.080 --> 01:25:50.720] U, [01:25:50.720 --> 01:25:51.600] all [01:25:51.600 --> 01:25:53.220] at [01:25:53.220 --> 01:25:55.740] mixed group, [01:25:55.740 --> 01:25:57.620] Delta, Charlie, [01:25:57.620 --> 01:26:00.100] two, niner, [01:26:00.100 --> 01:26:01.600] initial X-ray, [01:26:02.680 --> 01:26:04.060] hack, [01:26:04.060 --> 01:26:04.800] the [01:26:05.780 --> 01:26:07.440] planet, [01:26:07.440 --> 01:26:09.860] figures 73. Break. [01:26:11.140 --> 01:26:12.740] Go ahead. [01:26:12.840 --> 01:26:13.740] Signed [01:26:13.740 --> 01:26:16.080] Justin, amateur call, [01:26:16.080 --> 01:26:17.680] kilo, echo, eight, Mike, [01:26:17.680 --> 01:26:19.620] Yankee, Foxtrot, end message number [01:26:19.620 --> 01:26:21.560] one, three, no more, how copy? [01:26:21.880 --> 01:26:24.020] Roger, one, three, thanks for the traffic. [01:26:24.260 --> 01:26:26.040] It's that, Debbie, we do it here. [01:26:26.600 --> 01:26:27.120] Yeah. [01:26:27.680 --> 01:26:29.600] Very good, let's do a reveal [01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:30.480] on that. [01:26:32.800 --> 01:26:33.680] Here we go, that's what [01:26:33.680 --> 01:26:34.860] it should look like. [01:26:42.260 --> 01:26:43.360] All right, yeah, so on that one, we [01:26:43.360 --> 01:26:45.300] also had a mixed group in there with a [01:26:45.300 --> 01:26:47.500] DC-29, that's another thing to keep [01:26:47.500 --> 01:26:49.520] out. And when I mentioned [01:26:49.520 --> 01:26:51.440] the word two, I made sure to spell [01:26:51.440 --> 01:26:53.560] it out, just so it's 100% [01:26:53.560 --> 01:26:54.980] accurate, and someone didn't write [01:26:55.440 --> 01:26:57.760] Tango Oscar Oscar on accident, [01:26:57.760 --> 01:26:59.580] they would spell Tango Oscar. [01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:01.640] So that's, when there's words like that, [01:27:01.640 --> 01:27:04.080] it's always important to make sure you spell those out. [01:27:06.780 --> 01:27:07.260] Very [01:27:07.260 --> 01:27:09.340] good, we'll leave this up here for a few seconds [01:27:09.340 --> 01:27:11.580] and go to Q&A. [01:27:11.800 --> 01:27:13.200] I guess let's go [01:27:13.200 --> 01:27:15.300] there now. So, let's [01:27:15.300 --> 01:27:16.600] go to the chats. [01:27:17.480 --> 01:27:19.600] Hit up Discord, [01:27:19.600 --> 01:27:21.000] Presentation Chat, or [01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:23.600] Twitch, and we'll get some questions. [01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:25.240] But I guess first, [01:27:25.240 --> 01:27:27.380] you wanted to go over questions from the [01:27:27.380 --> 01:27:29.720] video, so go ahead, Aaron. [01:27:29.720 --> 01:27:31.420] Oh, okay. All right, we had [01:27:31.420 --> 01:27:32.940] two that came up during that. [01:27:33.640 --> 01:27:35.100] First one, [01:27:35.100 --> 01:27:37.080] do you know if and how other local [01:27:37.080 --> 01:27:39.120] and section traffic nets discourage [01:27:39.120 --> 01:27:40.920] use of the Internet or [01:27:40.920 --> 01:27:42.760] national traffic system relay? So [01:27:42.760 --> 01:27:45.120] the heart of that question really is [01:27:45.120 --> 01:27:46.840] how does the Internet play [01:27:47.520 --> 01:27:49.600] in with relaying [01:27:49.600 --> 01:27:51.140] traffic? And I mean, [01:27:51.140 --> 01:27:52.520] you could think of that as [01:27:53.140 --> 01:27:54.680] Echo Link, or [01:27:54.680 --> 01:27:56.840] maybe if you're on All Star, or [01:27:56.840 --> 01:27:59.120] something like that, where you're leveraging [01:27:59.120 --> 01:28:01.240] the Internet for moving things. [01:28:01.360 --> 01:28:03.100] From the national traffic system [01:28:03.100 --> 01:28:05.220] side, we really want things [01:28:05.220 --> 01:28:06.800] to go over the air. [01:28:06.800 --> 01:28:08.600] We are preparing for [01:28:09.620 --> 01:28:10.820] when infrastructure [01:28:10.820 --> 01:28:13.300] is not available. [01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:15.320] And sometimes you get the pushback [01:28:15.320 --> 01:28:17.780] of, well, when will that really happen? [01:28:18.020 --> 01:28:21.120] And you know, [01:28:22.400 --> 01:28:23.300] T-Mobile, [01:28:23.300 --> 01:28:24.520] third party, [01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:27.080] had an issue on their end, and it disrupted [01:28:27.780 --> 01:28:29.380] cellular communications, essentially [01:28:29.380 --> 01:28:30.740] across the board. [01:28:32.080 --> 01:28:33.300] That's the scenario [01:28:33.300 --> 01:28:35.160] we're preparing for. And so [01:28:35.160 --> 01:28:37.280] if we get into the habit of, [01:28:37.840 --> 01:28:39.220] well, I've got to relay this traffic [01:28:39.220 --> 01:28:41.340] from Dallas to, you know, [01:28:41.340 --> 01:28:43.580] I don't know, Washington, or California, or [01:28:43.580 --> 01:28:45.200] Massachusetts, or something. And it's, well, [01:28:45.200 --> 01:28:47.880] I'll just hop on Echo Link and go over the Internet and do that. [01:28:48.040 --> 01:28:49.320] And we built that [01:28:49.320 --> 01:28:51.180] habit of, we're just going to use the Internet. [01:28:51.180 --> 01:28:53.580] And when things really do hit the fan, [01:28:53.580 --> 01:28:55.320] and we've got to go over the air, [01:28:56.840 --> 01:28:57.460] you kind [01:28:57.460 --> 01:28:59.300] of have to now start [01:28:59.300 --> 01:29:00.960] getting into that over-the-air [01:29:00.960 --> 01:29:03.320] HF handling. That's not the time we want [01:29:03.320 --> 01:29:05.480] to do that. We want to practice that now [01:29:05.480 --> 01:29:07.580] and build that muscle memory now [01:29:07.580 --> 01:29:09.420] so that when the event [01:29:09.420 --> 01:29:11.360] does happen, we can just flow [01:29:11.360 --> 01:29:13.540] into it and run with it. [01:29:13.540 --> 01:29:15.360] And by using HF now, [01:29:15.360 --> 01:29:17.400] if there is a [01:29:17.400 --> 01:29:19.120] piece of traffic that stalls or [01:29:19.120 --> 01:29:20.960] something like that, [01:29:20.960 --> 01:29:22.940] we can investigate and understand [01:29:22.940 --> 01:29:25.020] and improve the traffic system so that [01:29:25.020 --> 01:29:27.160] we're ready [01:29:27.160 --> 01:29:29.140] to roll when something does happen. If we [01:29:29.140 --> 01:29:31.240] try to shortcut that and use the Internet, well, [01:29:31.240 --> 01:29:33.200] I couldn't get over HF, so I just dived on the [01:29:33.200 --> 01:29:35.100] Internet. And we haven't really [01:29:35.100 --> 01:29:36.780] addressed what's going on. [01:29:37.560 --> 01:29:39.120] Internet, some [01:29:39.120 --> 01:29:40.740] independent traffic nets [01:29:41.340 --> 01:29:43.280] use Echo Link or things, [01:29:43.280 --> 01:29:45.020] but from the ARL side, [01:29:45.020 --> 01:29:46.940] we really wanted to move over the air to reflect [01:29:47.220 --> 01:29:49.020] a real-world situation type [01:29:49.020 --> 01:29:49.860] of thing. [01:29:50.880 --> 01:29:53.100] If that hopefully provides the clarity there, [01:29:53.100 --> 01:29:54.440] if there's something I can [01:29:55.240 --> 01:29:57.140] clarify a little further, feel free to [01:29:57.140 --> 01:29:59.180] throw it in the discussion. [01:29:59.660 --> 01:30:00.940] The other question we had [01:30:00.940 --> 01:30:03.000] was, international radiograms [01:30:03.000 --> 01:30:04.380] are always in English. [01:30:05.440 --> 01:30:07.060] For traffic originating [01:30:07.060 --> 01:30:09.020] in the U.S., [01:30:10.320 --> 01:30:10.840] the [01:30:10.840 --> 01:30:12.920] common language that's over the air for us [01:30:12.920 --> 01:30:14.760] is English, because that's one of the [01:30:14.760 --> 01:30:16.940] common languages here in the U.S. [01:30:16.940 --> 01:30:18.600] If I had something that [01:30:18.600 --> 01:30:21.180] entered the system, [01:30:21.180 --> 01:30:22.760] let's say in Spanish, I'm in [01:30:22.760 --> 01:30:24.740] Dallas, that would be a good candidate [01:30:24.740 --> 01:30:26.520] for another language I might have. [01:30:26.720 --> 01:30:28.880] If I had no other option, [01:30:28.880 --> 01:30:30.740] I had no interpreters of [01:30:30.740 --> 01:30:32.700] things, and my [01:30:32.700 --> 01:30:34.780] quasi-Spanish skills could make it [01:30:34.780 --> 01:30:36.160] work, then [01:30:37.100 --> 01:30:38.760] I would try my [01:30:38.760 --> 01:30:40.840] best to try and make that move. [01:30:40.840 --> 01:30:42.180] Now, there's some [01:30:42.840 --> 01:30:44.360] assumptions that happen with that, [01:30:44.360 --> 01:30:46.440] that the people that get that along the way [01:30:46.440 --> 01:30:48.040] are going to be able to do the same thing. [01:30:48.040 --> 01:30:50.320] That's the risk when you [01:30:50.840 --> 01:30:52.040] start taking traffic [01:30:53.120 --> 01:30:54.560] in a language other [01:30:54.560 --> 01:30:56.180] than English. [01:30:57.880 --> 01:30:58.520] The thing [01:30:58.520 --> 01:31:00.360] has got to keep moving, and you have [01:31:00.360 --> 01:31:02.420] to move it within the system that really [01:31:03.600 --> 01:31:04.360] the majority [01:31:04.360 --> 01:31:06.300] of us are all speaking English. [01:31:06.940 --> 01:31:08.380] If you want to amplify that [01:31:08.380 --> 01:31:10.060] example even further, what if it was [01:31:10.880 --> 01:31:12.360] Chinese or Japanese [01:31:12.360 --> 01:31:13.960] or something, right? [01:31:14.820 --> 01:31:16.480] That just adds even more [01:31:16.480 --> 01:31:17.940] complexity to things. [01:31:18.360 --> 01:31:20.420] When we're moving traffic here [01:31:20.420 --> 01:31:22.560] in the U.S., and the national traffic system [01:31:22.560 --> 01:31:24.200] against U.S. and Canada, [01:31:24.200 --> 01:31:26.220] English is the language [01:31:26.220 --> 01:31:28.220] that's commonly used for that, [01:31:28.220 --> 01:31:29.000] and drives [01:31:29.000 --> 01:31:32.340] the very, very, very, very, very vast [01:31:32.340 --> 01:31:34.420] majority of traffic. I have not encountered [01:31:34.420 --> 01:31:36.600] anything that wasn't in English. [01:31:36.600 --> 01:31:37.540] And if it's headed to [01:31:38.160 --> 01:31:39.880] Peter in Germany, [01:31:39.880 --> 01:31:42.140] I know I've had some traffic from [01:31:42.140 --> 01:31:44.400] Great Britain, so it'll be English. [01:31:44.580 --> 01:31:46.440] But things moving in and out, it's [01:31:46.440 --> 01:31:47.260] English. [01:31:49.560 --> 01:31:50.960] Very good. [01:31:51.700 --> 01:31:52.380] Let's go [01:31:52.380 --> 01:31:54.260] to the chats. Twitch [01:31:54.260 --> 01:31:56.560] and Discord, everybody, throw your questions [01:31:56.560 --> 01:31:58.360] out there. We'll get [01:31:58.360 --> 01:31:59.880] Aaron to answer for us. [01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:04.960] I think the talk was so [01:32:04.960 --> 01:32:06.680] good, everything was answered. [01:32:08.540 --> 01:32:09.440] And then I think [01:32:09.440 --> 01:32:11.280] you had the two big questions just there, so [01:32:12.340 --> 01:32:13.440] we'll keep it open here [01:32:13.440 --> 01:32:16.060] for a minute. It is very... [01:32:16.060 --> 01:32:17.460] it's kind of like, okay, [01:32:17.460 --> 01:32:19.120] here's the fire hose, and [01:32:19.120 --> 01:32:20.380] enjoy. [01:32:20.780 --> 01:32:22.860] So I [01:32:22.860 --> 01:32:24.300] give this talk [01:32:25.100 --> 01:32:27.480] once a month. My next one is [01:32:27.480 --> 01:32:29.080] this coming [01:32:29.080 --> 01:32:30.400] Saturday. [01:32:32.720 --> 01:32:33.680] K8AMH.com [01:32:33.680 --> 01:32:35.320] forward slash events. I have [01:32:35.320 --> 01:32:36.980] some folks that take it a couple of times [01:32:38.980 --> 01:32:39.380] where [01:32:39.380 --> 01:32:41.260] the first time is, [01:32:41.260 --> 01:32:43.180] all right, I'm ready to be overwhelmed. [01:32:43.460 --> 01:32:45.740] And then you kind of have some time [01:32:45.740 --> 01:32:47.780] to kind of digest. [01:32:48.060 --> 01:32:49.460] But then come back [01:32:49.460 --> 01:32:51.340] to the next one, and you go, oh, yeah, [01:32:51.340 --> 01:32:53.280] I remember that. Or, oh, okay. [01:32:53.280 --> 01:32:55.580] It's just kind of the frame of reference changes. [01:32:58.000 --> 01:32:59.520] if this is kind of [01:32:59.940 --> 01:33:01.060] like, oh, my, [01:33:01.060 --> 01:33:02.800] holy crap, this is a bunch. [01:33:04.120 --> 01:33:04.900] You're welcome [01:33:04.900 --> 01:33:07.440] to jump back in again, of course, type of thing. [01:33:07.880 --> 01:33:08.900] There's definitely [01:33:09.140 --> 01:33:10.620] a lot to absorb. [01:33:11.840 --> 01:33:12.780] It's not something [01:33:12.780 --> 01:33:14.880] that's learned in 10 minutes. It's [01:33:14.880 --> 01:33:16.900] something that's built in time. That muscle memory [01:33:16.900 --> 01:33:19.040] gets built with time. [01:33:20.060 --> 01:33:20.800] Does this [01:33:20.800 --> 01:33:22.720] system get used for QSL [01:33:22.720 --> 01:33:24.360] card equivalent sometimes? [01:33:24.740 --> 01:33:27.040] Yes. We'll get traffic sometimes [01:33:27.040 --> 01:33:28.460] that, you know, [01:33:28.460 --> 01:33:30.820] great hearing you on HF [01:33:30.820 --> 01:33:33.100] or something along that line type of thing. [01:33:33.880 --> 01:33:34.800] Hope to hear from you [01:33:34.800 --> 01:33:36.180] again or those types of things. [01:33:36.180 --> 01:33:38.680] It's something [01:33:38.680 --> 01:33:41.220] that moves across the traffic system. [01:33:42.220 --> 01:33:42.600] We get [01:33:43.580 --> 01:33:44.880] those types of [01:33:44.880 --> 01:33:46.200] radiograms. We get the [01:33:46.200 --> 01:33:48.360] happy birthday, merry Christmas. We get the [01:33:48.360 --> 01:33:50.780] welcome to the hobbies or [01:33:51.800 --> 01:33:52.660] ask about [01:33:52.660 --> 01:33:54.720] areas in your area or those types [01:33:54.720 --> 01:33:55.720] of things. [01:33:56.480 --> 01:33:58.480] We've had a couple of things that we're doing here [01:33:58.920 --> 01:34:00.620] to help with generating [01:34:00.620 --> 01:34:02.680] some variety in traffic too that [01:34:03.240 --> 01:34:05.020] I can quickly mention. One's a [01:34:05.020 --> 01:34:07.380] trivia program where once a week [01:34:07.460 --> 01:34:10.840] there's a new question that comes up. [01:34:10.840 --> 01:34:12.000] And you [01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:13.200] can send in your answer for [01:34:13.200 --> 01:34:15.080] points and the points are just [01:34:15.080 --> 01:34:17.600] kind of, you know, why not? I'll get some statistics. [01:34:17.600 --> 01:34:19.100] But, you know, say [01:34:19.100 --> 01:34:21.420] you got five right in the last [01:34:21.420 --> 01:34:24.380] couple months or that type of thing. [01:34:24.380 --> 01:34:26.120] But you send your answers [01:34:26.120 --> 01:34:27.160] as radiograms to the traffic system. [01:34:27.160 --> 01:34:29.660] And I get [01:34:29.660 --> 01:34:31.500] to see how long it takes too. So it gives me some [01:34:31.500 --> 01:34:33.400] data points to say, well, how is this system working [01:34:33.400 --> 01:34:35.360] and did that take, you know, one day or [01:34:35.360 --> 01:34:37.420] two days? And on average it takes two days for things [01:34:37.420 --> 01:34:39.040] to move across the country. [01:34:39.480 --> 01:34:41.400] But if you get that occasional, why did that take [01:34:41.400 --> 01:34:43.500] two weeks? Then you have the opportunity [01:34:43.500 --> 01:34:45.020] to understand and [01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:47.100] try and improve things to [01:34:47.720 --> 01:34:49.860] make it better for next time type of thing. [01:34:52.380 --> 01:34:53.480] ntstrivia.com is the place [01:34:53.480 --> 01:34:55.040] for that one. And [01:34:55.040 --> 01:34:57.260] I also have a pen pal program [01:34:57.260 --> 01:34:59.180] where I kind of hook you up with another [01:34:59.180 --> 01:35:01.200] traffic handler and you kind of [01:35:01.200 --> 01:35:03.200] start the conversation of getting to [01:35:03.200 --> 01:35:05.180] know each other through radiograms [01:35:05.180 --> 01:35:06.960] type of thing. So it's exactly pen pals, except [01:35:06.960 --> 01:35:09.000] instead of letters in the mail, it's traffic [01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:10.300] through the traffic system. And [01:35:10.900 --> 01:35:13.300] that's at ntspenpal.com. [01:35:13.300 --> 01:35:15.240] I should probably put those [01:35:15.240 --> 01:35:17.400] addresses in the chat areas. [01:35:17.720 --> 01:35:19.700] Might be helpful. [01:35:20.580 --> 01:35:21.200] So why [01:35:21.200 --> 01:35:23.180] don't I do that? We'll throw that in chat [01:35:23.180 --> 01:35:25.120] and definitely include it in [01:35:25.120 --> 01:35:26.980] the metadata for the video. [01:35:27.160 --> 01:35:29.280] Thank you, Aaron. Thank you, [01:35:29.280 --> 01:35:31.540] Justin. I think we're out of time. [01:35:32.060 --> 01:35:32.620] Let's [01:35:33.380 --> 01:35:35.160] give a virtual round [01:35:35.160 --> 01:35:37.800] of applause. That was an amazing presentation. [01:35:37.800 --> 01:35:39.840] Definitely a lot to absorb. [01:35:40.220 --> 01:35:41.260] I hope this [01:35:41.260 --> 01:35:43.120] system gets used more. I'd definitely [01:35:43.120 --> 01:35:45.160] like to see some more radiograms [01:35:45.160 --> 01:35:47.000] in my local area. [01:35:47.060 --> 01:35:49.540] That's very great. Thank you. [01:35:49.540 --> 01:35:51.140] Perfect. Thanks, everybody. And if you have [01:35:51.140 --> 01:35:52.340] any questions, k8mh [01:35:52.340 --> 01:35:54.300] at arl.net. Feel free. [01:35:54.480 --> 01:35:56.460] Everyone have a great day. [01:35:56.600 --> 01:35:57.020] Thank you.