WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:02.820 All righty, then we can go ahead and get rolling here. 00:02.820 --> 00:04.560 And I'll just again say, welcome everybody. 00:04.560 --> 00:16.740 Thank you so much for joining in today's session on the National Traffic System and the radiogram that we use to move traffic, or in this case messages, across the country. 00:17.160 --> 00:41.420 My fancy title is Section Traffic Manager, which is just a nice way of saying that I kind of oversee traffic handling here in the North Texas section and look for opportunities to help you folks learn more about traffic handling skills and keep an eye on the system to see if there's any improvements or changes or anything like that that we could do. 00:41.940 --> 00:44.700 So again, thank you so much for joining in. 00:44.700 --> 00:53.080 And I guess kind of a fun way to start things is talk about how I got started in traffic handling. 00:53.080 --> 00:55.380 It was many years ago. 00:55.380 --> 00:59.680 I was in Michigan at the time, and hence the eight in my call sign. 00:59.820 --> 01:10.020 And we were preparing with the county ARIES-RACES group as a combined group to hold a simulated emergency test. 01:10.020 --> 01:21.340 And when they were handing out assignments, they got to me and they said, okay, we need you to go to the hospital and use this radiogram to send in a request to the emergency operations center. 01:21.340 --> 01:26.820 And I just kind of said, I don't know what you're talking about. 01:26.820 --> 01:38.800 And so that started my journey into what is the radiogram format and how does it fit in the way that we provide public service and those types of things. 01:38.800 --> 01:41.720 And so from there, I've kind of built it up over time. 01:41.720 --> 01:46.720 And now I kind of oversee things and again, try to pass the knowledge along. 01:46.720 --> 01:49.160 So again, thanks so much for joining in. 01:49.600 --> 01:51.680 Let's see if this thing's going to move forward. 01:51.680 --> 01:52.660 There we go. 01:53.480 --> 01:58.160 So just to give kind of a quick what we're going to do during this time. 01:58.260 --> 02:00.860 Just a quick high level overview of the traffic system. 02:00.860 --> 02:02.600 I don't want to go into a ton of detail. 02:02.600 --> 02:03.700 It's boring. 02:03.740 --> 02:08.080 But I think if you have a good 30,000 foot view, that'll help. 02:08.420 --> 02:11.940 Kind of the skills that you gain from participating in traffic handling. 02:11.940 --> 02:14.740 And then we'll dive into the radiogram and its components. 02:15.120 --> 02:21.200 And then we'll have some hands-on practice and kind of talk about how traffic nets work and things if you want to join in on one of those. 02:21.340 --> 02:32.380 Again, if you have any questions at all while we're going through things, even if it's a... hey, I remember you talked about that in the radiogram header, but could you explain that one more time? 02:32.380 --> 02:37.060 Feel free to throw them in the chat and we'll kind of take those questions as they come in. 02:38.260 --> 02:39.320 All righty. 02:39.320 --> 02:41.840 So a quick overview of the traffic system. 02:42.680 --> 02:57.220 Essentially, we're an organized network of hams that move these messages across country and beyond and started in 1914-1915 as the formal system for relaying traffic across the country. 02:57.220 --> 03:01.620 This is the relay in American Radio Relay League. 03:01.620 --> 03:08.820 This is why the ARRL formed, was to move these messages across the country. 03:09.020 --> 03:15.120 And so if you get that random Jeopardy question of what is the relay in ARRL, I guess now you know the answer. 03:15.120 --> 03:17.500 But this is how the league got started. 03:17.680 --> 03:22.860 And since then, we've been continuously moving traffic across country and beyond. 03:22.860 --> 03:30.240 The types of things that we move, we'll start with the highest level of urgency, emergency traffic. 03:30.240 --> 03:33.380 And so these are the life and death type things. 03:33.420 --> 03:45.380 I need a generator now, or I need diesel for the generator in five hours, or the hospital is going to have a big problem, and I'm trying to summarize it. 03:45.380 --> 03:47.180 But those types of things. 03:47.180 --> 03:51.780 Also specific instructions like evacuate the area or those types of things. 03:51.780 --> 04:01.680 Thankfully, we don't get a lot of emergency traffic on the traffic system, but we can designate items as emergency to make sure they push through the system quickly and effectively. 04:01.800 --> 04:03.780 Then we have priority traffic. 04:04.000 --> 04:08.200 This is where time is important, but it's not quite the life and death. 04:08.200 --> 04:17.840 So maybe notifications on number of injuries or shelter will be established at this address at this time, those types of details. 04:17.980 --> 04:20.220 Then we go to welfare traffic. 04:20.220 --> 04:25.380 And during incidents, this is kind of the general use of the traffic system. 04:25.380 --> 04:31.220 I want to let my family know I'm okay, or I have family in that area, I want to know if they're okay. 04:31.280 --> 04:34.940 And so we'll move these welfare messages in and out of affected areas. 04:34.940 --> 04:44.980 And so think Puerto Rico with the earthquake, you can think Houston with hurricanes, and we just want to let family members know we're okay, that type of thing. 04:44.980 --> 04:48.520 We'll move those through the system as welfare traffic. 04:48.580 --> 04:58.040 And then the general type of traffic that we have go through the system, because thankfully, we're not in disasters all the time, is routine traffic. 04:58.040 --> 05:11.100 So these are kind of the well wishes, sometimes the welcome to the hobby, or happy birthday, Merry Christmas, those types of messages. 05:11.100 --> 05:18.000 And those messages help us test the system to make sure that we're ready to go if something happens. 05:18.200 --> 05:20.980 And it helps new operators build their skills. 05:20.980 --> 05:29.200 And it helps us keep practicing those skills to build that muscle memory so that when we do get into an incident, we're ready to go. 05:29.200 --> 05:31.200 We've already been running and we're well established. 05:31.200 --> 05:36.180 And we've got the rhythm and we can just kick into it and keep rolling in things. 05:36.720 --> 05:39.280 NTS is primarily US and Canada. 05:39.340 --> 05:44.760 And we do have the ability to move traffic internationally through the system overall. 05:44.760 --> 05:52.380 I know Peter dl4fn is in Germany, and he participates in traffic handling and will send messages across. 05:52.380 --> 05:54.240 We'll get them here in North Texas. 05:54.240 --> 05:59.720 I know he sends them to other areas to third party agreement supply. 06:00.020 --> 06:04.300 So you're not sending traffic to North Korea, as far as I know. 06:04.720 --> 06:15.060 And you can, you can send traffic on behalf of third parties, you don't have to be a ham to put traffic into the system or receive traffic from the system. 06:15.120 --> 06:19.840 But if you're going international, then the third party rules apply on those. 06:20.220 --> 06:35.920 Modes are generally what you would think voice, CW, so Morse code, and then digital, such as a digital traffic network, which I know with the way the hand bands have the HF bands have been, digital is really nice for punching through the conditions type of thing. 06:35.920 --> 06:41.160 But thankfully, here in North Texas, we have a lot of traffic activity. 06:41.160 --> 06:47.440 So the 7290 traffic net, which is a voice net, that's 7.290. 06:47.440 --> 06:48.420 Imagine that. 06:50.140 --> 06:55.500 A lot of activity, even with the way the bands are sometimes they'll run into that we couldn't quite move it. 06:55.500 --> 06:59.100 And you know, you have to kind of get the relay going between stations to make it happen. 06:59.100 --> 07:03.640 But thankfully, the conditions have been fair, I guess. 07:04.140 --> 07:07.100 Here's how a message would generally move through this system. 07:07.100 --> 07:16.560 So the way we stack this is we try to start things kind of the same way with when we handle disasters, we start and end at the at the local level. 07:16.760 --> 07:21.820 And so let me see if I can get my fancy laser pointer to work. 07:21.900 --> 07:25.780 So we'll start things here at the at the local net level. 07:26.000 --> 07:45.960 And then we'll work that traffic up to either region or area nets depends on how far it's going to travel, and have it jump across on those and then come back down and make its way back to a local net in the delivery area so that a ham in that local area can make make that delivery. 07:46.320 --> 07:52.760 And let me see if I can maybe clarify that a little bit better with an example of how something moves. 07:52.860 --> 08:00.620 And so let's say I want to send a message to a family member in Michigan from here in Texas, I go to my local net. 08:00.620 --> 08:04.320 And I say I have one piece of traffic that's headed to Michigan. 08:04.520 --> 08:11.800 And the net control station will work to find another traffic handler that can move it towards Michigan. 08:11.800 --> 08:16.500 And I'll talk about how the net control station kind of figures that out later. 08:16.900 --> 08:23.760 Once that person's identified, that other station will take that traffic from me and then keep it moving towards Michigan. 08:23.760 --> 08:42.180 And so in this example, which is a real world piece of traffic I sent, that station then relayed it over the digital traffic network to a traffic handling node in Indiana that is set up, you could kind of think of it like an email server, except there's no internet involved or anything. 08:42.280 --> 08:44.520 You're going over the air for all this. 08:45.260 --> 08:52.580 It goes to that node, and then that node hangs on to it saying, okay, I have this message stored that's on its way to Michigan. 08:53.600 --> 09:07.220 Station in Michigan connects to that node and checks, do I have any traffic that I could take to my area for local delivery, finds that there, then says, okay, I'll take it, it gets relayed to their station. 09:07.360 --> 09:13.900 And then in this case, that station happened to be five miles from my family member up there in the thumb region. 09:13.980 --> 09:17.660 And so hop on the phone, and they make that last mile delivery by phone. 09:17.660 --> 09:23.220 The vast majority of these are delivered by phone as the last mile. 09:23.680 --> 09:24.980 Can you do email? 09:24.980 --> 09:33.160 Yeah, but we like to have the personal touch for these kinds of messages, you know, the happy birthdays or things. 09:33.260 --> 09:42.120 Also gives a chance to explain, hi, I'm random amateur radio operator, and I'm calling you with this message, you know, kind of email would kind of get lost with that. 09:42.260 --> 09:49.880 And it also better reflects when we're in a disaster, and we're, you know, say we're sending that welfare message, hi, I'm okay. 09:50.340 --> 09:53.120 If you're on the receiving end, how would you prefer to get it? 09:53.120 --> 09:54.180 Would you like an email? 09:54.240 --> 10:13.020 Or would you like to have someone that calls and make sure that they know and say, hey, I got this message from your family member, it says that they're okay, they're at the shelter, you know, you have that personal touch and, and, and, and making sure that that message actually reaches the recipient, 10:13.020 --> 10:22.540 because if the phone call, you know, you get a busy signal or something, we try again, whereas with the email, we just kind of send it and, you know, then we don't know after that, unless they're nice enough to reply. 10:23.880 --> 10:28.120 So comment in the chat, that's why I got a call from a random ham when I got my license. 10:28.120 --> 10:44.120 So there are some traffic handlers that monitor the FCC database for new hams, they also will monitor for licenses, licenses that are about to expire, it just kind of depends on on how they want to approach it. 10:44.120 --> 10:55.460 And then they'll send the traffic, whether it's, you know, the welcome to the hobby, or your license expires on August 10, please be sure to renew if you haven't yet, those types of things. 10:56.900 --> 11:04.480 Those types of messages are good, because it helps introduce new hams to the hobby, to here's a whole nother facet of this hobby, right? 11:04.480 --> 11:21.060 There's a lot of different things you can do with amateur radio, whether it's, you know, doing digital, or FT8, or Morse code, or traffic handling, or, you know, emergency communications, Skywarn, or I just want to talk to France and know that I made it, 11:21.060 --> 11:24.260 or, you know, there's a lot of different things that you can do. 11:24.540 --> 11:36.680 And plus, I feel these messages help bring the personal touch to the hobby that, you know, we're all kind of in this, and we're glad that, you know, we're making those connections as hams. 11:36.680 --> 11:44.220 I know, you know, sometimes might only talk to another operator for a minute, but it's just cool to make that connection with other folks. 11:44.220 --> 11:51.060 But yeah, that's why you'll sometimes get that, you know, welcome to the hobbies and, you know, enjoy the fun and friendships you will make. 11:51.060 --> 11:55.840 You know, I've seen that piece of traffic enough times, I can, you know, write it in my sleep type of thing. 11:56.760 --> 12:00.200 If other questions or comments, again, feel free to throw them in the chat. 12:00.200 --> 12:01.920 We'll keep rolling here, though. 12:02.220 --> 12:08.420 So how does traffic handling help build your skill set as a ham ? 12:10.480 --> 12:14.380 A lot of it is just how you interact on the air. 12:15.300 --> 12:23.740 Whether that you're on a traffic net, or a SkyWarn net, social net, you know, information net, those types of things. 12:24.060 --> 12:28.600 With traffic handling, well, we'll start at the top here. 12:29.100 --> 12:32.780 Slow is fast, right? 12:32.780 --> 12:36.440 We're trying to relay this message across. 12:36.520 --> 12:55.120 And, you know, if we're in a real disaster scenario, and I could think like the awesome mud slide up in Seattle, where a giant wall of mud comes sliding down the hillside and takes out square miles of land, and now you have a big mud pile with houses and trees and cell antenna towers and, 12:55.120 --> 12:56.140 you know, all that in it. 12:56.140 --> 13:04.100 And you're out there throwing a wire in a tree, hopefully, if you've got one nearby, and you're doing things, probably doing it by pen and paper. 13:04.160 --> 13:09.260 And so if you speak too fast, right, and I imagine you're trying to write it down on the other end. 13:09.260 --> 13:14.580 We need six cases of water and 12 cots and five, you know, the other person is just gonna, okay, I give up. 13:15.760 --> 13:17.540 Slow is fast. 13:17.580 --> 13:20.740 I only have to say it once. 13:20.820 --> 13:27.920 If I go too fast, then you're gonna, I need you to say that again, or could you say this again, or that, and we're gonna burn more time. 13:27.920 --> 13:37.880 And in the meantime, you have all this other traffic that could be waiting to move, but it's having to sit there and wait, because you're having to repeat the message a few times in order to get it across. 13:37.880 --> 13:48.780 So whatever you think slow is, go slower than that. 13:49.460 --> 14:00.460 Also helps if you enunciate certain words, just part of that speaking clearly, we want to try and get it across the first time if we can. 14:00.560 --> 14:08.060 And then I like to view this lens under the lens of you're not reading it, you're sending it. 14:08.060 --> 14:13.620 And I think that just puts a whole different context on what we're trying to achieve with traffic handling. 14:13.620 --> 14:33.800 We want the radiogram as, you know, whether it's sloppily as I've written it on here, we want it to arrive like almost a Xerox copy, like 99% of what's filled out on this is what should appear at the other end when it gets there. 14:33.800 --> 14:37.140 We want it there word for word and letter for letter. 14:37.140 --> 14:44.560 So again, when I think of it, I'm not reading it to the other station, I'm sending it, I'm relaying it across to the other station. 14:45.140 --> 14:49.400 It also helps you build familiarity with participating in NETS. 14:49.580 --> 14:58.560 I know one of the fun parts on some traffic NETS is the NET control station will say, please check in with your call sign phonetically only. 14:59.080 --> 15:05.060 And then you get, well this is Kilo 8 Alpha Mike Hotel and my name's Aaron and I'm in North Dallas and I have no traffic, you know. 15:05.260 --> 15:08.740 We just want you to check in with your call sign phonetically only. 15:08.740 --> 15:16.640 So participating in these NETS, you start to tune in on what exactly are the instructions from the NET control station. 15:16.640 --> 15:18.440 I mean, that applies with SkyWarn NETS. 15:18.440 --> 15:25.880 I don't know how many folks have jumped in on SkyWarn NETS and you always get that one, that, you know, minimum reporting criteria. 15:25.880 --> 15:29.980 I only want to know about half inch hail or cloud rotation. 15:29.980 --> 15:33.140 And then you get the sirens are going off. 15:33.140 --> 15:35.580 No one cares, so to speak. 15:35.760 --> 15:38.940 You know, if they're going off, we already know there's a tornado warning there. 15:39.320 --> 15:45.660 Thanks for telling us the sirens went off, but we want to know about hail and we want to know about, you know, cloud rotation, right? 15:45.660 --> 15:54.160 And so, you know, you get that, you get that feel from the NET control station by listening and Brennan's got a great comment. 15:54.160 --> 15:55.600 Listen, listen, listen. 15:55.720 --> 15:57.980 I would even say that for any NET. 15:57.980 --> 16:01.420 Before you jump in and participate, listen to it for a bit. 16:01.420 --> 16:04.380 Get a feel for how it operates before you jump in. 16:04.700 --> 16:09.640 It just helps you get into the groove of it a lot faster if you get the feel for how that NET runs. 16:09.640 --> 16:13.340 And we'll go over that a little bit more in the, in the, how the traffic NETs run. 16:14.060 --> 16:16.440 ITU Phonetics, they're the gold standard. 16:16.440 --> 16:18.580 So Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, Delta, Echo, Phosphorus. 16:18.580 --> 16:30.680 If you're on a local NET that's, that's focused on, on, on training as well as moving traffic, like we have here in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex, we have a two meter traffic NET happens twice a day. 16:30.840 --> 16:36.060 If you come in with a dog or a cat, you know, we'll, we won't hate it. 16:36.300 --> 16:39.900 But we will in time want you to build those ITU Phonetics. 16:39.900 --> 16:47.080 And if you're jumping in on a traffic NET that's like regional area, you're on HF and you're moving traffic, very much the gold standard. 16:47.080 --> 16:48.860 We're very much looking for ITU Phonetics. 16:48.860 --> 16:51.360 So this is a good way to practice those ITU Phonetics. 16:51.980 --> 16:52.860 ProWords. 16:54.100 --> 17:11.720 Say again, you're a traffic, or correction, or I Roger, you know, these types of ProWords not only apply to traffic handling, but they're, they're used generally in on air communications. 17:11.720 --> 17:20.600 So whether that's public safety dispatchers, if you've ever worked with, you know, police or fire, that type of thing, it's the same things. 17:20.600 --> 17:22.760 Can you repeat your traffic, please? 17:22.760 --> 17:24.400 Or, you know, that type of thing. 17:24.520 --> 17:26.180 Air traffic control. 17:26.180 --> 17:33.800 It's a good way to build your skills on phonetics before you get into the disaster. 17:34.120 --> 17:37.400 And we'll go over some of those ProWords in a bit. 17:38.020 --> 17:40.040 Alternate phonetics are frustrating. 17:40.900 --> 17:44.500 Always fun when you're working with the PD and it's Adam Boy King. 17:44.500 --> 17:49.240 And if you say, you know, Alpha Bravo Kilo, they kind of look at you. 17:49.480 --> 17:53.200 And they're like, sorry, I just used what everybody else uses. 17:53.200 --> 17:55.240 But yeah, Alpha Bravo. 17:55.520 --> 18:00.360 But it's, yeah, just, just, yeah, it's just fun. 18:01.280 --> 18:03.800 All right, let's keep going before I rattle on that any further. 18:05.400 --> 18:06.280 Brevity. 18:06.300 --> 18:13.020 So when we look at the blank radiograms, there are 25 spaces. 18:13.600 --> 18:17.340 And we want you to be quick and to the point. 18:17.340 --> 18:24.060 It's the same thing when you're, again, public safety, or if you're on a SkyWarnet, and you've got cloud rotation, you know, it's not time for a start. 18:24.060 --> 18:25.680 Well, I'm outside and it's windy. 18:25.680 --> 18:28.160 So I looked up and I saw the cloud spin funny. 18:28.160 --> 18:30.400 And I watched it, you know, get to the point. 18:30.400 --> 18:31.600 What is it? 18:32.340 --> 18:38.480 I'm at XYZ intersection and the cloud rotation has started and there may be lowering. 18:38.600 --> 18:41.020 Yeah, that's the crux of the message. 18:41.020 --> 18:43.000 And so same thing with radiograms. 18:43.000 --> 18:49.640 You know, if you can say it in five words rather than 10, well, then say it in five words, you know, that type of thing. 18:51.960 --> 18:59.060 Okay, don't know how many folks have dived into the Incident Command System, maybe as part of ARIES, Amateur Radio Emergency Service. 18:59.600 --> 19:02.660 Fun fact, that's actually sister programs. 19:02.660 --> 19:10.260 So National Traffic System and ARIES are our sister programs in ARL's public safety programs type of thing. 19:10.600 --> 19:25.280 If you're moving 213s over the air, the way I like to think of it is if I'm walking into the disaster, and I got to have someone sit down at the radio and handle moving those 213s, and I've got two options, I've got someone that's never moved anything ever, 19:25.280 --> 19:30.000 or I've got someone that's moved a bunch of radiograms to the traffic system, you know, who am I going to pick? 19:30.000 --> 19:32.280 I'm going to pick the person that's got the experience. 19:32.280 --> 19:33.440 And why is that? 19:33.440 --> 19:40.580 I love this quote at the top, when the disaster begins, the time to prepare ends. 19:41.500 --> 19:48.480 It's really been interesting watching, you know, like with the COVID-19 pandemic and folks, you know, what am I going to do to this? 19:48.480 --> 19:57.640 Like, well, we're in it now, so you're not, you're not preparing anymore, you are reacting, right? 19:57.640 --> 20:13.980 And so for folks that, you know, I know I get the tinfoil hat sometimes of why I have, you know, water and some, you know, awful tasting food that if I had to eat it, I would, but, you know, how do you get, you know, how do you prepare beforehand by practicing? 20:13.980 --> 20:19.040 Because once we're in the disaster, that's not the time to learn, that's the time to go. 20:19.300 --> 20:24.940 And so build those skills up before you get in there, if you can help it. 20:25.860 --> 20:28.160 Mistakes, we'll talk about that here. 20:29.640 --> 20:35.840 Any, any questions that you have, again, throw them in the chat, feel free to throw them in there. 20:36.180 --> 20:37.900 We'll keep rolling here. 20:38.860 --> 20:41.740 I like to say that smart mistakes are okay. 20:44.560 --> 20:53.820 When you go to learn, that's just part of it, you know, sometimes it's just, oh, I didn't quite understand that right, or that type of thing. 20:53.820 --> 21:03.360 So if you're on a traffic net, and you make an error, and you know it, then just correct it, you know, oh, correction, and that's a pro word, correction, and we'll go over that. 21:03.720 --> 21:10.100 Or if someone gives you some feedback over the error, you know, well, first, hopefully they're kind about it. 21:10.720 --> 21:22.620 But, you know, we're giving that feedback to help you tune your skills, so that you can jump in and have those skills built before we get into the disaster. 21:22.840 --> 21:29.040 And especially when I know there are new traffic handlers joining in on the traffic nets, and, you know, sometimes look at that. 21:29.040 --> 21:35.800 Aaron is just being cranky, because, you know, I want to get those habits built early. 21:35.800 --> 21:49.140 Because if you start to learn it wrong, and then we come back and try and well, this is actually how it should go, it's a lot harder to unravel all of that muscle memory you've built, versus if we catch it in the beginning. 21:49.140 --> 22:01.100 So when you, if you get started on a traffic net, and it's like, well, here's some feedback, that type of thing, we want to help you build that skill set right from the beginning, rather than having to come in later and go, well, now you need to, you know, 22:01.100 --> 22:04.340 change it, and then you're going to be the, you know, I keep forgetting, I keep forgetting. 22:04.340 --> 22:07.460 So we want to get that built right in the beginning as you get rolling. 22:08.120 --> 22:26.460 If there's one thing that I can have you walk away with, from this talk, without going too deep into the psychology world, you know, the biggest question I get is, I'm going to get on the air, and I'm going to get on the traffic net, and I'm going to make a mistake, 22:26.460 --> 22:28.860 and I'm going to sound stupid. 22:30.660 --> 22:32.780 We've all been there. 22:33.560 --> 22:39.680 I have been traffic handling for a bit, and I still make mistakes. 22:39.720 --> 22:45.560 And I like to joke that, well, I'm putting the amateur in amateur radio today, I made a mistake, right? 22:45.560 --> 22:48.360 And we just keep rolling with it. 22:48.360 --> 22:50.760 I acknowledge a mistake, and we keep rolling. 22:50.760 --> 22:56.380 And it's the same thing, if someone else jumps in, and there's a mistake, it is not the end of the world. 22:56.380 --> 22:59.040 This is how we learn and grow. 22:59.060 --> 23:01.520 We embrace something that's new. 23:01.660 --> 23:07.720 Hopefully, we try and build our base knowledge before we jump in, rather than jumping in blind. 23:08.500 --> 23:14.760 But, you know, when mistakes happen, that's when learning occurs, and that's how we build those skills. 23:14.760 --> 23:20.200 So, you know, if you have folks that, you know, how do I overcome that fear? 23:20.260 --> 23:21.540 Jump in. 23:21.540 --> 23:25.380 You know, that's the best advice I can give you is just roll with it. 23:27.620 --> 23:33.000 Okay, that's kind of the 30,000-foot view of the traffic system and kind of the skills you can get. 23:33.000 --> 23:35.880 This is a really good kind of the meat part of it. 23:35.880 --> 23:40.760 But I'll check with folks, any questions on that kind of 30,000-foot view? 23:40.760 --> 23:46.960 Again, I could go into the different, you know, what are different traffic nets and regions and that type of thing. 23:46.960 --> 23:53.260 But, you know, can be kind of boring as you're starting out. 23:53.260 --> 23:56.880 So, you know, I'll take an opportunity to fuel for a bit. 23:57.180 --> 24:00.220 And then if no questions, we'll jump into the radiogram. 24:06.700 --> 24:07.600 Mistakes are always... 24:08.300 --> 24:08.840 All right. 24:08.840 --> 24:09.980 So, the comment in the chat. 24:09.980 --> 24:11.820 So, for the recording that, you know, folks know. 24:11.820 --> 24:14.640 Our local ADS is also training that mistakes are always welcome. 24:14.760 --> 24:18.320 Yeah, we try to help folks learn and grow and that type of thing. 24:18.320 --> 24:24.640 And even, you know, maybe it's, let's just talk offline by email real fast and let me help clarify type of thing. 24:24.640 --> 24:29.720 Yeah, it's always... Our goals with training nets is to help folks build their skills. 24:30.020 --> 24:30.340 All right. 24:30.340 --> 24:31.680 We'll move into the radiograms. 24:31.680 --> 24:33.720 And again, any questions, just throw them in there. 24:34.420 --> 24:35.520 So, why radiograms? 24:35.520 --> 24:36.440 It's still the same thing. 24:36.440 --> 24:37.900 Why ICS-213? 24:37.900 --> 24:39.160 It's the general message form. 24:39.160 --> 24:42.300 It's the standardized message format that we're all using. 24:42.300 --> 24:44.620 So, whether the radiograms here in the U.S. 24:44.620 --> 24:50.700 or it's up to Canada or it's across to Germany or whatnot, it's the same form. 24:51.420 --> 24:58.400 And it allows us to effectively move the traffic across the board in a way that's traceable. 24:58.400 --> 25:03.200 And this is the one thing I really like about the radiograms versus the 213s. 25:03.520 --> 25:12.080 We have some things in the header and things to help track it and help to try and make sure words aren't lost as it moves in transit or things like that. 25:12.140 --> 25:21.520 But if we do have a radiogram that disappears into the ether, and it does happen, we can start to follow that message across. 25:21.520 --> 25:23.140 All right, who did you relay it to? 25:23.140 --> 25:24.600 And okay, you got it. 25:24.600 --> 25:26.480 And who did you send it to? 25:26.580 --> 25:32.440 And sometimes we'll send that follow-up and then suddenly the message appears at its destination. 25:32.440 --> 25:35.660 It's like, well, it got hung up somewhere and, you know, that type of thing. 25:35.660 --> 25:38.880 But we can follow them through if we need to. 25:39.600 --> 25:41.860 So, this is the form. 25:41.960 --> 25:46.900 If you've printed it out, we'll have you try and fill one out in a bit. 25:46.900 --> 25:49.260 But we'll walk through how this works first. 25:49.540 --> 25:51.980 A little bit of animations in here. 25:51.980 --> 25:56.060 And it's sort of smooth when it goes over online. 25:56.060 --> 25:59.260 So, hopefully, it's not jumping too bad. 25:59.260 --> 26:03.880 But, you know, for the conversation, it won't affect things. 26:03.880 --> 26:06.020 But, you know, okay. 26:06.800 --> 26:09.760 So, we'll break the radiogram into these blocks. 26:09.760 --> 26:13.660 And the first one is the roughest one. 26:13.720 --> 26:15.960 So, we'll spend a little extra time in it. 26:16.020 --> 26:18.160 And then the rest of them will be easier. 26:19.720 --> 26:24.800 So, the header, overall, just is what helps us track that message. 26:24.800 --> 26:26.860 You can think of it like the email header. 26:26.860 --> 26:29.100 Like, who's it from, who's it to, so to speak. 26:29.780 --> 26:32.600 But two gets its own spot on a radiogram. 26:32.600 --> 26:35.300 But this is what helps us to track these things. 26:35.300 --> 26:36.880 It starts with a number. 26:37.220 --> 26:45.400 And this number is assigned by whoever first fills out the blank radiogram. 26:45.400 --> 26:53.260 So, if I have one of these and I start filling it out, I would give it a unique number so that I can track it in my records. 26:53.260 --> 26:55.680 There's no standardized way of doing this. 26:55.960 --> 26:57.800 I started with one. 26:57.800 --> 26:59.460 And then my second one was two. 26:59.460 --> 27:01.280 And my third one is three. 27:01.280 --> 27:03.300 Some folks will go by the month. 27:03.300 --> 27:07.840 So, if it's March and it's their first one, they'll go 301 and the next one will be 302. 27:07.840 --> 27:12.280 And then when, you know, it's July, so 701, 702. 27:12.600 --> 27:14.760 It's kind of however you want to do it. 27:16.400 --> 27:19.740 And then you can reset them, you know, periodically if you want. 27:19.740 --> 27:22.560 So, maybe the first of the year, you go back to one. 27:22.560 --> 27:24.300 Some stations do it by month. 27:24.300 --> 27:26.120 Again, it's just kind of however you want to do it. 27:26.120 --> 27:28.660 I've been rolling with the same numbers for a few years. 27:28.880 --> 27:30.980 I'm at 390 something. 27:30.980 --> 27:34.980 And I might go back to one when I hit 500 or something like that. 27:34.980 --> 27:37.280 But again, this is just for your own records. 27:38.020 --> 27:46.520 This and everything else that we're going to talk about, aside from the little tracking items at the end, will all stay exactly the same as this moves through the system. 27:46.520 --> 27:49.620 So, your number will stay attached to this all the way through. 27:49.620 --> 27:57.620 And then if we have to come back and ask you a question, you know, we have a question about your number one, then you know how to go back in your records and do that. 28:00.820 --> 28:03.860 Precedence is... oh, here's a good question in the chat before I jump into precedence. 28:03.860 --> 28:06.020 Are we required to archive our messages? 28:06.960 --> 28:09.680 It is a good practice to hang on to them. 28:10.620 --> 28:14.180 And I would hang on to them for maybe one or two months. 28:14.180 --> 28:15.580 Now, this is for routine traffic. 28:15.580 --> 28:17.800 I would hang on to them for a month or two. 28:18.560 --> 28:22.520 Just in case there's that odd question, you know, one month is good. 28:22.520 --> 28:24.440 I think two is some extra insurance. 28:25.180 --> 28:29.380 And then you can discard them however you want to do that. 28:29.380 --> 28:31.300 I keep mine electronically now. 28:31.320 --> 28:35.660 I started with paper and I think that's a really great way to begin. 28:35.660 --> 28:43.580 I find that by actually having the physical page and filling it out by hand and things, I learn it better that way for me. 28:43.680 --> 28:47.040 And so, same thing with net controlling. 28:47.040 --> 28:50.660 When, you know, I started it was written down and I get the feel for it. 28:50.700 --> 29:05.120 If you start with software and then you wind up in the field and there are no computers and you're having to do it by paper and you've never done it by hand before, you're going to have a big learning curve versus if you build the skill with paper first and then transfer it. 29:05.120 --> 29:15.880 So, I would start with written documents and then hang on to them for about a month, maybe two, and then you can go ahead and, you know, recycle them, right? 29:15.880 --> 29:18.380 It's what you're supposed to do or, you know, that type of thing. 29:18.920 --> 29:20.020 That's a good question. 29:20.020 --> 29:21.820 Again, any others throw them in there. 29:21.820 --> 29:23.220 We'll continue precedence. 29:23.220 --> 29:26.380 This is back to that, you know, what's the urgency of this thing? 29:26.380 --> 29:28.720 Emergency, priority, welfare, or routine. 29:28.960 --> 29:33.560 When we fill out the radiogram, typically I'll just write R for routine. 29:33.560 --> 29:37.660 When I say it on the air, I say routine, but I'll write R. 29:38.200 --> 29:41.120 The only word that always gets spelled out is emergency. 29:41.120 --> 29:45.040 We want to call out the high level of importance of emergency traffic. 29:45.040 --> 29:54.700 So, the word emergency is always written out, but the others like priority, welfare, or routine, we just write their initial and we call it a day. 29:55.540 --> 29:57.280 Handling instruction. 29:57.620 --> 30:06.040 This provides some guidance on how the message should be handled as it moves through the system and also about delivery. 30:07.100 --> 30:09.100 I'm going to put them on screen. 30:09.140 --> 30:13.140 These are also in the handout if you happen to print it out. 30:13.200 --> 30:25.220 The most common one that you're going to see is Hotel X-Ray Golf, the last one, which basically says, please don't spend any money trying to deliver this. 30:25.300 --> 30:31.880 If you are going to have to spend money to deliver it, well then just cancel the delivery, but let me know. 30:31.880 --> 30:43.820 And that's what we mean by service originating station, is you send something back to whoever, you know, put that in the system to say, you know, unable to deliver or whatever that reason is type of thing. 30:43.820 --> 30:45.780 We'll go into that a little bit later. 30:45.820 --> 30:56.560 The one that is kind of despised in this list is Hotel X-Ray Delta, which is essentially real-time tracing. 30:57.240 --> 31:09.640 So if I introduce something with a Hotel X-Ray Delta instruction, what will happen is every time that message moves, those stations will need to send me a report on that movement. 31:09.980 --> 31:15.320 So I send it to someone else, they then relay it to the next station. 31:15.320 --> 31:23.240 At that point, that first station is supposed to say in a message back, okay, I relayed it to XYZ station at this date and time. 31:23.680 --> 31:30.100 And that station is supposed to send me something that says, okay, I got it from that first station at this date and time. 31:30.540 --> 31:34.620 And then when they move it on to the next station, the same thing happens again. 31:34.620 --> 31:37.080 Okay, at this date and time, I sent it off to that station. 31:37.080 --> 31:38.600 And then that station, same thing. 31:38.600 --> 31:39.980 At this date and time, I got it. 31:39.980 --> 31:44.280 And so every time it hops, it generates two messages back to whoever introduced it. 31:44.560 --> 31:50.640 It's great for tracking emergency things where you got to know that it's making progress. 31:51.240 --> 31:57.840 If it's a happy birthday, you know, type of thing, do we need that level of tracking on it? 31:57.840 --> 31:59.720 It generates a lot of traffic. 31:59.720 --> 32:04.580 If everything was sent with Hotel X-Ray Delta, there would be nothing but acknowledgements moving through the system. 32:04.640 --> 32:08.940 And so we reserve Hotel X-Ray Delta for those really urgent things. 32:08.940 --> 32:12.600 Or I've tried sending messages through and they're just not making it. 32:12.600 --> 32:14.520 I want to understand where the clog is. 32:14.520 --> 32:16.960 So let me trace this one and see what's going on. 32:16.960 --> 32:20.780 So I would only use Delta in extreme circumstances. 32:21.100 --> 32:23.080 So did I beat that horse? 32:23.080 --> 32:23.300 Good. 32:23.300 --> 32:24.660 Please don't use that one. 32:25.340 --> 32:29.060 It was really fun when it was used during field day one year. 32:29.140 --> 32:36.960 There was a lot of feedback on that group when they sent all their field day traffic with the tracer instruction on it. 32:39.160 --> 32:45.140 Does the reply go back down the chain or acknowledge to the originator only? 32:45.600 --> 32:52.940 So whether it's a Hotel X-Ray Delta, or let's say it's Hotel X-Ray Charlie, and you can use more than one of these. 32:52.940 --> 32:54.240 It's not like you have to pick one. 32:54.240 --> 32:55.840 You could do a bunch of them. 32:56.700 --> 33:01.100 Hotel X-Ray Charlie, report and date and time of delivery back to the originating station. 33:02.640 --> 33:11.640 You would write a radiogram back to whoever that radiogram was from with that information. 33:11.680 --> 33:20.820 And whether it goes back the same exact way that it came to you, or it goes through a completely different part of the system, it doesn't matter. 33:20.820 --> 33:25.120 It just starts making its way back to whoever introduced that piece of traffic. 33:25.120 --> 33:29.920 So yeah, it doesn't necessarily have to flow exactly back the way it came. 33:29.920 --> 33:32.360 It can work through the system through another channel. 33:34.180 --> 33:36.160 Okay, other questions? 33:36.160 --> 33:37.720 Throw them in the chat, please. 33:37.920 --> 33:39.600 Station of origin. 33:40.100 --> 33:44.620 This is effectively who's filling out the radiogram for the first time. 33:44.700 --> 33:51.740 So if you are filling out a radiogram to a family member, you are the station of origin. 33:52.180 --> 34:03.240 If you are filling out the radiogram on behalf of someone else that wants to put a message into the system, you are the station of origin. 34:03.240 --> 34:06.860 You are the first ham that is filling this in. 34:06.860 --> 34:10.560 So your call sign goes in the station of origin. 34:10.560 --> 34:14.440 And then back to that, you know, was it delivered or did I have a question? 34:14.440 --> 34:20.980 I know to come back to you, because you're the station of origin that brought this thing for the first time. 34:20.980 --> 34:24.140 And this station of origin will stay there through the whole journey. 34:24.140 --> 34:25.280 It does not change. 34:25.280 --> 34:26.980 None of this changes. 34:28.720 --> 34:30.940 Place of origin can be a little trickier. 34:30.980 --> 34:32.220 So we'll get to that in a sec. 34:32.220 --> 34:37.700 A station of origin is whoever is filling out the very first radiogram for that for the first time. 34:38.520 --> 34:45.400 The check is basically a way for us to see if any words disappeared or got added to the message. 34:45.400 --> 34:48.860 So it's a count of how many words are in the text. 34:48.980 --> 34:52.760 There are some shorthands we can use, and I'll go into those in a bit. 34:52.880 --> 35:02.180 If you use one or more shorthands, then we put A-R-L before the number to signify we're using shorthands in the message. 35:02.280 --> 35:05.820 But if you don't have any shorthands, then it's just, you know, count. 35:06.340 --> 35:07.800 You know, there are nine words in here. 35:07.800 --> 35:09.040 So the check is nine. 35:09.040 --> 35:13.460 And I'll show the example of that when I get some real traffic up on the screen. 35:13.460 --> 35:14.780 Place of origin. 35:14.780 --> 35:16.260 Okay, here's the curveball. 35:16.260 --> 35:20.980 This is the location of the person who authored the message. 35:21.240 --> 35:26.880 So if this is you writing a message to a family member, then it is where you are, city and state. 35:27.460 --> 35:40.780 If it's for you're on the phone with somebody, like I'm here in Dallas, and let's say I'm on the phone with someone in Fort Worth that wants to send a message, and I fill in the radiogram, the station of origin is who? 35:40.940 --> 35:41.880 It's me. 35:41.880 --> 35:45.700 I'm the one that's filling in the radiogram for the first time. 35:45.700 --> 35:48.240 The place of origin is where? 35:48.800 --> 35:50.500 Fort Worth. 35:50.520 --> 35:54.820 It's the location of the person who's authoring the text. 35:54.820 --> 35:56.400 So that's the fun curveball. 35:56.400 --> 36:02.060 Now, if you put, like if I were to put Dallas instead of Fort Worth, like the system will not implode. 36:02.140 --> 36:07.660 But the place of origin is whoever is is authoring the text. 36:07.660 --> 36:12.940 The station of origin is the first ham that's that's filling out the radiogram. 36:13.960 --> 36:18.520 Time filed is optional, just like the handling instruction is optional. 36:18.600 --> 36:21.720 But you should you should put the time filed. 36:21.740 --> 36:27.400 If it's emergency or priority or welfare traffic, we want to know the age of that in minutes. 36:27.460 --> 36:35.100 And also with the hotel x-ray Bravo instruction, which says, just cancel this if it's not delivered within so many hours. 36:35.100 --> 36:37.300 Well, I don't know how many hours went by. 36:37.380 --> 36:41.220 So definitely fill out the time filed for for those types of things. 36:41.220 --> 36:45.700 The traffic system uses universal coordinated universal time. 36:45.700 --> 36:47.500 So UTC or Zulu. 36:47.800 --> 36:51.240 If you don't indicate a time zone, then that's what's assumed. 36:51.380 --> 36:54.160 Universal time is what's assumed. 36:54.200 --> 36:57.560 If you are going to use the time zone, then make sure you put it in there. 36:57.560 --> 37:05.040 So whether that's central daylight time or eastern daylight time or that type of thing, then you'd put the time the time zone in there along with the time. 37:06.100 --> 37:08.640 Very rarely, though, is the time filled in. 37:08.900 --> 37:11.440 The date, this is really easy. 37:11.460 --> 37:16.500 First three letters of the month and then and the date. 37:16.800 --> 37:25.160 So, you know, January, I still say the whole word on the air, January 1-5, March 3, July 2-2. 37:25.380 --> 37:27.940 And notice how I give each number individually. 37:28.100 --> 37:29.600 The year is never included. 37:29.600 --> 37:35.140 If you got a piece of traffic that's a year old, then you know, probably, you know, time to give up on it. 37:35.180 --> 37:37.400 But, you know, we don't need the year. 37:37.500 --> 37:39.360 You know, these messages aren't that old. 37:39.360 --> 37:41.180 And it just burns time, right? 37:41.180 --> 37:44.640 We want to get these moved as efficiently as we can. 37:44.640 --> 37:46.280 So the year doesn't add any value. 37:46.280 --> 37:47.740 So we don't bother with it. 37:47.740 --> 37:49.320 And again, UTC. 37:49.840 --> 37:57.500 And same story, if you were to list a piece of traffic on a local traffic net, and, you know, it's 1030 p.m. 37:57.500 --> 38:00.660 here in Dallas, it's technically the next day in UTC. 38:00.660 --> 38:04.540 But if I if I don't put tomorrow on it, the world, again, does not end. 38:04.680 --> 38:09.880 But if we want to follow the rhythm of it, we would follow whatever universal time is. 38:10.500 --> 38:12.620 Comment in there, thanks for clearing up place origin. 38:12.620 --> 38:14.460 Yeah, that's a good time, isn't it? 38:15.420 --> 38:20.180 All right, so here's how I would read the header on the air. 38:20.180 --> 38:23.140 And again, this comes down to some net personalities. 38:23.180 --> 38:29.440 And on the Dallas-Fort Worth two meter traffic nets, I'm going to read it like how we would do it on there. 38:29.440 --> 38:33.080 You might find that your local traffic net is just a little bit different. 38:33.080 --> 38:38.860 So again, listen to pick up that net personality is what I like to call that. 38:38.860 --> 39:03.220 But I would say this header just like this, please copy message number 312, routine, Hotel X-Ray, Gulf, Kilo 8, Alpha Mike Hotel, 1-2, Dallas, Texas, 2-1-4-5, January 1-5. 39:03.220 --> 39:09.000 Now notice I don't have to say, okay, the number is 312, and the precedence is routine, and the station of origin is it. 39:09.000 --> 39:10.760 We're all using the same template. 39:10.760 --> 39:13.600 So we all know the order of things. 39:13.600 --> 39:16.280 We don't need to say the subject over and over again. 39:16.280 --> 39:20.080 Again, we're trying to move these efficiently, so we don't need to burn time on that. 39:20.100 --> 39:24.280 I did mention that two items are optional, the handling instruction and the time. 39:24.420 --> 39:27.000 So how would I read that if I didn't have those? 39:27.000 --> 39:28.020 I just skip them. 39:28.020 --> 39:37.560 Please copy number 312, routine, Kilo 8, Alpha Mike Hotel, 1-2, Dallas, Texas, January 1-5. 39:37.560 --> 39:43.120 Again, the other station will know that there is no handling instruction and there is no time filed. 39:43.120 --> 39:45.320 It's one of those rhythm of the business type of things. 39:45.320 --> 39:46.900 We know that those are optional. 39:46.900 --> 39:50.100 And so if you don't mention it, they're not there. 39:50.100 --> 39:52.000 And then we can keep moving with things. 39:52.260 --> 39:56.780 And comment, that's basically how the header is read here in Northern Virginia. 39:56.780 --> 40:09.660 A lot of this is, if you're really bored someday, there is a 400-plus page best practices PDF that I just hate. 40:10.660 --> 40:16.680 But if you really want to get in there and read it, there's a lot of reading you can do on traffic. 40:16.680 --> 40:19.640 And it's all been built just based on things learned over time. 40:19.640 --> 40:21.120 It's an excellent resource. 40:21.620 --> 40:26.760 But if I were to throw it at you and say, go read this 400-page thing, you're going to get lost. 40:26.760 --> 40:31.720 So a lot of this is like the 80% what you're going to see the vast majority of the time. 40:31.720 --> 40:41.900 But there is a best practices guide if you really want to get the big details on good traffic handling. 40:43.880 --> 40:45.000 That's the header. 40:45.000 --> 40:46.600 So that's the hard part. 40:46.600 --> 40:47.660 We're through it. 40:48.380 --> 40:50.300 Any questions on the header? 40:52.460 --> 40:54.880 I will keep moving into the address part next. 40:54.880 --> 40:57.260 But again, any questions, throw them in there. 40:57.880 --> 41:00.760 The address is the destinations. 41:00.760 --> 41:01.060 There we go. 41:01.060 --> 41:02.620 Yeah, methods and practices guide. 41:02.620 --> 41:04.020 Yeah, that's yeah, MPG. 41:04.020 --> 41:05.520 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. 41:05.900 --> 41:08.120 400 pages of fun. 41:08.900 --> 41:11.460 This is essentially like sending any letter. 41:11.460 --> 41:13.940 First last name, call sign if they have one. 41:13.940 --> 41:15.760 Again, they don't necessarily have to have one. 41:15.760 --> 41:22.800 So if you want to send, you know, Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas, Happy Birthday to a family member that doesn't have a license, please do. 41:23.200 --> 41:28.760 But first last name, call sign if they have one address, city, state, zip and phone number. 41:29.560 --> 41:32.600 The last mile delivery is very much done by phone. 41:32.600 --> 41:35.540 So we ask that you include a phone number. 41:37.580 --> 41:40.620 If you include an email, that is an option. 41:43.200 --> 41:48.500 It removes that personal touch, but you know, some folks just don't want their phone number out there. 41:48.900 --> 41:50.920 We'll still deliver it by email. 41:51.160 --> 41:53.840 If you do include it, then you need to write it out. 41:54.360 --> 42:08.040 So like for this example, if it was jane.doe at example.com, then it's jane.doe at sign or at example.com. 42:08.120 --> 42:10.260 We spell all of those things out. 42:10.260 --> 42:13.060 We don't put, you know, a period or anything like for that. 42:13.060 --> 42:14.580 Because again, you're relaying it on the air. 42:14.580 --> 42:17.360 So how do you read, how do you, how do you say a period? 42:17.780 --> 42:22.320 You know, I mean, you would spell it out to indicate there is a dot there. 42:23.780 --> 42:30.040 So here, let's send this one as an example to jane.doe, address and phone number. 42:30.700 --> 42:34.640 And so I would read this like this. 42:34.640 --> 42:37.140 I would say that this is to jane. 42:37.600 --> 42:39.820 I'm gonna go a little faster just for sake of time. 42:39.820 --> 42:42.400 I would pause to give the other person time to write. 42:42.400 --> 43:05.480 So this is going to jane.doe, I spelled delta oscar echo, amateur call alpha romeo one tango, address figures one two three , mixed group eight five tango hotel, street, direction southeast, some town wisconsin, zip figures zero zero one two one, phone figures three three zero, 43:05.480 --> 43:10.160 five five five, four four two four, break. 43:10.160 --> 43:11.840 And a break is one of those fun ones. 43:11.840 --> 43:13.880 We'll talk about that in a second. 43:13.880 --> 43:16.240 This is your introduction to ProWords. 43:16.280 --> 43:22.940 And so in the reference guide, there's a whole list of these, but we'll cover some of the more common ones here. 43:24.480 --> 43:26.940 I spell means you're about to spell something. 43:27.040 --> 43:30.260 Good practice to do that with last names, because they can be fun. 43:30.320 --> 43:32.460 Also can be good to do that with first names. 43:32.460 --> 43:34.200 If it's john, is it j-o-n? 43:34.200 --> 43:35.500 Is it j-o-h-n? 43:35.600 --> 43:36.600 You know, that type of thing. 43:36.600 --> 43:38.880 So if it makes sense to spell it, go for it. 43:39.220 --> 43:43.040 But if you're going to spell it, make sure you kind of do that without pausing. 43:43.040 --> 43:51.240 So instead of doe, I spell... the other person's probably already tried to write it down at that point. 43:51.240 --> 43:54.180 So if you're going to spell it, then just go right into spelling it. 43:54.180 --> 44:01.540 So going to Jane, doe, I spell, Delta, Oscar, Echo, you know, and then keep going with it. 44:01.540 --> 44:03.740 Amateur call means you're about to give a call sign. 44:04.560 --> 44:09.140 Figures, whether address figures, or zip figures, or phone figures, you're about to get some some numbers. 44:09.720 --> 44:13.740 Mixed group means you're about to give a mixture of letters and numbers. 44:14.420 --> 44:17.400 Directions, really only used in the address. 44:18.000 --> 44:23.280 So it's just there to, you know, Northeast 8th Street, or Southwest this, or that type of thing. 44:23.360 --> 44:24.840 And then break. 44:25.440 --> 44:37.940 This usually throws a curveball, because I know a lot of Nets here in the Metroplex will have in the preamble, if you have emergency or priority traffic, at any time, say break, break, followed by your call sign. 44:37.940 --> 44:47.640 So sometimes it creates this, well, in this case, break indicates you're pausing. 44:47.860 --> 44:53.260 And so you would, you know, read the, you know, you'd relay the address and phone number and then break. 44:53.260 --> 44:55.440 And then you'd let up on push to talk. 44:55.480 --> 45:01.320 And you wait for that other station to come back to you with whether they need any fills. 45:01.340 --> 45:04.060 You know, I need you to repeat this or that type of thing. 45:04.220 --> 45:08.360 Or they will say go, or go ahead, go text. 45:08.360 --> 45:10.520 That means you can continue with the radiogram. 45:10.520 --> 45:11.700 They have everything. 45:11.700 --> 45:14.220 In the comment, we say break for text for clarity. 45:14.400 --> 45:16.640 And we'll have some folks do that here in the Metroplex, too. 45:16.640 --> 45:23.280 They'll say break for text to let you know that they're pausing before they jump into the text section. 45:25.680 --> 45:26.900 Op notes. 45:27.140 --> 45:33.160 And so this is not something that's commonly seen, but it can be, so I'll just mention it. 45:33.220 --> 45:36.420 Two places for op notes that they can appear in these. 45:36.420 --> 45:37.300 This is the first one. 45:37.560 --> 45:39.980 This one relates to handling or delivery. 45:39.980 --> 45:43.560 So in this example, I've put workday only. 45:43.560 --> 45:46.660 And so maybe the phone number I've given is a work phone number. 45:46.660 --> 45:48.840 And so why bother calling on the weekend? 45:48.840 --> 45:55.800 This helps that station that's about to do the delivery in this example, to have an idea of when to try making the phone call. 45:55.800 --> 46:02.360 So they're not burning time on, you know, a weekend attempt that's just, you know, going to lead to voicemail or something like that. 46:02.360 --> 46:14.640 Again, operational notes or op notes are optional, but for this first one, it gives, you know, some help to that delivering station or to those handling it if there's any extra information that that might help them when relaying this along. 46:14.660 --> 46:16.780 That's the addressee part. 46:17.700 --> 46:20.200 If you have questions on that, throw them in the chat. 46:20.200 --> 46:22.560 We'll go into this receiving station info part. 46:22.560 --> 46:23.900 This is really easy. 46:24.480 --> 46:31.020 The only time I ever fill this out is if I'm dropping the radiogram in the mail. 46:31.800 --> 46:34.960 This is your station information. 46:36.000 --> 46:44.100 And this can be helpful if you're putting it in the mail and you want that person to know how to get ahold of you if they have any questions or anything like that. 46:44.400 --> 46:50.260 Or if you're in an emergency or something like that, who filled in this radiogram? 46:50.440 --> 46:56.020 Then you put your information there and then that way if there are any follow-up questions, they know how to get ahold of you. 46:56.220 --> 46:59.340 Maybe it's a, we can't read this one word, can you read it for us? 46:59.340 --> 47:00.640 Or, you know, that type of thing. 47:02.360 --> 47:05.660 Otherwise, I know my name and my phone number and stuff. 47:05.660 --> 47:07.120 I don't need to fill it in. 47:07.180 --> 47:14.560 It's only helpful if I'm going to put it in the mail or something like that and, you know, someone else is going to be looking at it and if they have questions, they know how to get ahold of me. 47:14.560 --> 47:17.720 So that is virtually always blank for me. 47:19.160 --> 47:22.180 The text is the heart of the message. 47:23.340 --> 47:26.600 There are 25 spaces or 25 groups. 47:26.880 --> 47:29.880 I like to think of it as five dollars a word. 47:30.280 --> 47:43.400 Going back to that brevity and be concise and to the point, we want to very effectively relay these through the system and so the longer they are, the more time they take. 47:43.400 --> 47:48.020 If it's worth the extra five or ten dollars, then it's worth it. 47:48.020 --> 47:54.360 But if there's a way to be more concise and still get the message across clearly and effectively, then go for it. 47:55.180 --> 47:57.640 So let's say I wanted to send this. 47:57.680 --> 47:58.700 Great seeing you yesterday. 47:58.700 --> 48:01.340 Hope to get together again soon, 73. 48:03.520 --> 48:10.420 So in radiograms, punctuation, just like in the email, is spelled out. 48:10.420 --> 48:16.000 So periods are written as either the letter x, which we say is initial x-ray, or the whole word x-ray. 48:16.000 --> 48:17.200 Both will work. 48:18.060 --> 48:25.160 Others that you might see that aren't too common but they are used on occasion is if you have a question, the question mark is written as the word query. 48:25.500 --> 48:28.260 Exclamation points are written as exclamation. 48:28.580 --> 48:31.860 Not too often, but you're going to see a lot of x-rays in things. 48:31.860 --> 48:33.680 That's the most common one. 48:34.160 --> 48:37.220 And so here's how this would translate. 48:37.220 --> 48:40.100 Great seeing you yesterday, initial x-ray. 48:40.100 --> 48:44.520 Hope to get together again soon, figures 73. 48:45.540 --> 48:48.900 Now I didn't need to put an x-ray between soon and 73. 48:49.740 --> 48:53.400 I can kind of gather that that was the end of the sentence. 48:53.400 --> 48:59.080 And so why spend the five bucks to put a period there when I don't need it? 48:59.100 --> 49:09.340 And sometimes I'll still do it and I'm reading it on the traffic net and I say x-ray figures that I laugh at myself and I'm like, well that's how I read it, so go for it. 49:09.340 --> 49:13.320 But it's like, I guess I had extra five dollars in my pocket and let's go for it. 49:13.320 --> 49:19.280 But if you don't need that x-ray there, then no need to spend the five bucks type of thing. 49:20.180 --> 49:22.900 If it helps clarify things, I would include it. 49:22.900 --> 49:30.880 So if it was like a date , right, if it was on August 10, 73, then I would put an x-ray there. 49:30.880 --> 49:34.500 I'd spend the five bucks to make sure there's some clarity. 49:34.800 --> 49:39.100 On August, figures 1-0, initial x-ray, figures 7-3. 49:39.100 --> 49:45.900 Just gives that extra clarity that the 73 is not part of the year or that, you know, whatever might be next to it type of thing. 49:45.920 --> 49:49.180 Question in the chat, your responsibility to help format the message. 49:49.180 --> 49:58.640 So whether I'm filling it out for myself or on behalf of someone else, I own filling in the radiogram. 49:58.640 --> 50:01.720 I'm the one that's introducing it and making it for the first time. 50:01.720 --> 50:10.520 So I own whatever words get in there because as soon as I relay it on the air, ideally that's exactly how it's going to arrive on the other end. 50:10.520 --> 50:21.100 So when you're putting the message together, you know, go for brevity and things to, you know, to make sure the message moves effectively through the system. 50:21.100 --> 50:29.260 And, you know, if you have a word, if you were to send supercalifragilisticexpialidocious on a radiogram, I would really look at you like, why? 50:29.760 --> 50:36.420 You know, but in other words, you know, go for simplicity, but still get the point across. 50:36.580 --> 50:45.700 If you're moving a radiogram that says we need methotrexate like a medication, well, then that's worth it to say methotrexate. 50:45.700 --> 50:49.160 You're not going to simplify it any further than that as a medication, right? 50:49.160 --> 50:57.520 But, you know, again, try and be, you know, concise and efficient with your traffic when you go to author it before you bring it to the system. 50:58.080 --> 51:00.300 Questions on 73. 51:00.880 --> 51:03.920 Is it figure 73 or 73? 51:05.580 --> 51:13.020 When we have numbers in the text like this, we use the pro word figures to indicate that it's a number. 51:13.020 --> 51:16.220 And then we say each digit individually. 51:16.220 --> 51:19.440 So it's figures 73. 51:19.560 --> 51:22.260 We give each number individually. 51:22.260 --> 51:33.780 I mean, otherwise, you could you could get the, you know, if you say, you know, 146, or, you know, 146, or what, we want to standardize how we do that. 51:33.780 --> 51:37.960 And we want to do it in a way where we're going to make sure each number gets there clearly. 51:38.580 --> 51:41.720 So we give them one at a time, each digit individually. 51:42.160 --> 51:44.960 Do you have to get the sender's approval of the message? 51:46.080 --> 51:52.580 If it was an ICS 213, and you're working in an emergency operations center or something, then yeah, there's going to be someone that signs off on it. 51:52.700 --> 51:56.940 If you are authoring your own message, then you approve your own message type of thing. 51:56.940 --> 52:09.500 If you're on the phone with somebody and they want to send, you know, happy birthday, you know, type of thing, and you decide that you could say that in the shorthand, or, you know, that type of thing, you don't necessarily need to get their okay to say, 52:09.500 --> 52:13.180 well, I'm going to take that period out because we don't need it or, you know, that type of thing. 52:13.860 --> 52:25.600 You know, a lot of this is just, you know, good judgment on, you know, if someone's telling you, tell them, you know, tell them I'm glad to hear from them, and that I hope they're doing well. 52:25.600 --> 52:31.680 Well, you know, you can, you know, put that in the message right along those lines. 52:31.700 --> 52:33.520 You know, I am glad to hear from you. 52:33.520 --> 52:34.920 I am doing well. 52:34.940 --> 52:37.820 You know, I wouldn't cut it in half or anything like that. 52:37.820 --> 52:39.460 You know, try and follow what they're giving you. 52:39.460 --> 52:45.100 But the way I would do it on the phone is they'll tell me kind of what it is they want to say. 52:45.100 --> 52:46.880 And sometimes they're making it up as they say it. 52:46.880 --> 52:50.880 So it's not, you know, exactly ready, but I will type it out. 52:50.880 --> 52:53.760 And then when they're done, I'll say, okay, here's what I'm going to send. 52:55.300 --> 52:57.100 And then they'll go, okay, great. 52:57.120 --> 53:05.200 Or, well, can you add or, you know, that's kind of their sign off type of thing, just to verify that I've got everything that they wanted to say in that. 53:05.200 --> 53:07.560 So hopefully that gives you a good answer there. 53:08.580 --> 53:09.880 We'll keep moving. 53:10.460 --> 53:16.180 When you're putting the check together, things like x-ray and query count as a word when you're filling in the check. 53:16.180 --> 53:22.640 So if you look at what we've got on the text here, it's 12. 53:22.960 --> 53:24.980 Great seeing you yesterday. 53:24.980 --> 53:26.480 Initial x-ray are the first five. 53:26.480 --> 53:29.100 Hope to get together again are the next five. 53:29.240 --> 53:31.160 Soon figure 73 are the last two. 53:31.160 --> 53:32.940 So the check here is 12. 53:32.940 --> 53:37.860 And when I read that as part of the header, I would say one, two. 53:40.080 --> 53:44.320 And we'll put this all in the radiogram so you can see it all as a big picture. 53:44.740 --> 53:48.620 Again, I would pause between words, but, you know, for sake of time. 53:48.620 --> 53:49.700 Great seeing you yesterday. 53:49.700 --> 53:50.600 Initial x-ray. 53:50.600 --> 53:52.360 Hope to get together again soon. 53:52.360 --> 53:53.620 Figures 73. 53:53.840 --> 53:54.540 Break. 53:54.860 --> 53:57.520 So some more pro words that we can have here. 53:58.040 --> 54:02.700 Initials, or some say letter group, means you're about to give initials. 54:02.700 --> 54:03.740 Break. 54:04.020 --> 54:07.680 Break for a signature, because the signature is next. 54:07.860 --> 54:13.840 Again, we're giving that pause to see if that other station needs any fills. 54:13.840 --> 54:23.480 I need you to say again word after hope, or please spell yesterday, or, you know, things like that. 54:23.620 --> 54:31.480 If you get the please say all again after yesterday, that's a good sign you might have went a little too fast, and they just gave up. 54:31.480 --> 54:33.500 So slow down the next time. 54:33.940 --> 54:40.860 Affirmative or negative is much better than yes or no, because it's longer, so we have less chance of misinterpreting it type of thing. 54:40.860 --> 54:42.340 So affirmative or negative. 54:42.480 --> 54:49.820 And then correction, if you did make a mistake, then you can just say correction, and then whatever the correction is. 54:50.200 --> 54:53.400 You know, so great seeing you initial x-ray. 54:53.400 --> 54:54.080 Correction. 54:54.080 --> 54:54.860 Yesterday. 54:54.860 --> 54:58.380 I say again great seeing you yesterday. 54:58.380 --> 54:58.940 Initial x-ray. 54:58.940 --> 55:03.400 It gets you into that rhythm of putting that correction in and keeping things following. 55:06.180 --> 55:09.720 So the last part now, what if I'm a bad speller? 55:09.720 --> 55:14.240 Well, when you read it over the air, we won't know how you spelled it. 55:14.240 --> 55:16.280 We'll just know how you said it. 55:16.360 --> 55:22.080 But if someone asks you to spell something like methotrexate, right, try and get it right . 55:22.080 --> 55:32.160 But if something is introduced with a misspelling, and that's how it's handed to you as it's in transit, then relay it exactly as you got it. 55:32.160 --> 55:35.660 We're not in the middle of this to change the message while it's in transit, right? 55:35.660 --> 55:47.880 This is not the time for the telephone game where I start with, you know, I need two cases of bottled water, and it ends with I need five one-gallon jugs of iced tea or, you know, something. 55:47.960 --> 55:53.440 So if it has a mistake in it or things, move it along just as you got it. 55:53.660 --> 55:55.620 I wouldn't change anything like that. 55:55.620 --> 55:59.840 So if something comes in with a spelling mistake, it'll move through the system like that. 55:59.840 --> 56:02.540 As long as we know what it's saying, then we're okay. 56:05.240 --> 56:06.320 The signature. 56:06.320 --> 56:09.600 So this is the last part that would generally be filled out. 56:09.600 --> 56:13.760 It's below the text and above the sent and received info with no label. 56:14.720 --> 56:17.980 So it's just kind of one of those we-know-it-goes-there types of things. 56:17.980 --> 56:21.980 Generally, it's your name and your call sign if you have one. 56:21.980 --> 56:24.920 So in my case, it's Aaron K8AMH. 56:25.860 --> 56:30.000 This is how I would finish this message on the air. 56:30.000 --> 56:32.760 I would say, signed. 56:33.220 --> 56:37.420 So I've read the text, I break, the other station says, go ahead. 56:37.420 --> 56:48.500 I would say, signed, Aaron, amateur call, Kilo 8, Alpha Mike Hotel, end, number 312, no more, how copy? 56:50.220 --> 56:54.780 So, end means that's the end of the radiogram. 56:56.000 --> 56:58.300 Book traffic, we'll talk about in a second. 56:59.520 --> 57:02.900 No more is just how many you have left to relay to that station. 57:02.900 --> 57:11.660 So if you're like, I have three that are going to Michigan, then I would read the first one, I would say, end, number whatever that was, two more, how copy this one? 57:11.660 --> 57:14.080 And then the other station knows we still have some more to go. 57:14.720 --> 57:18.200 How copy, so did you copy it successfully? 57:18.200 --> 57:29.580 And then, you know, Roger, I Roger your number 312, good copy on 312, something like that, is how you'd know the other station has everything successfully. 57:29.580 --> 57:32.520 Now, this is the second place where op notes can appear. 57:32.940 --> 57:38.480 This is more commonly used, this is related to replies or servicing. 57:38.560 --> 57:46.760 And so for example, could have Aaron, Kiloweight Alpha Mike Hotel, op note, reply or service to KE5YTA. 57:47.120 --> 58:00.140 Effectively, what this is saying is, if you have a reply that you need to send to me, send it to me via KE5YTA, and his name's Roger. 58:00.140 --> 58:02.740 So the message would go to Roger. 58:02.740 --> 58:06.720 And I'll show this in a real radiogram of how this works. 58:06.720 --> 58:11.640 This is good for, like for Peter in Germany, how we get the messages back to him. 58:12.840 --> 58:16.460 So the last part of this is your tracking. 58:16.460 --> 58:22.640 So everything we've talked about so far, aside from the receiving station info, will not change in the radiogram ever. 58:22.640 --> 58:25.020 This will stay the same as it moves through the system. 58:25.820 --> 58:29.040 The received and sent info, this is for your tracking. 58:29.660 --> 58:32.380 Who did you get it from and who did you send it to? 58:33.000 --> 58:35.360 And so let's say I sent to Roger. 58:35.360 --> 58:37.580 I would put KE5YTA. 58:37.700 --> 58:41.120 I like to track what net I was on when I did that. 58:41.120 --> 58:44.420 That's optional, but that's just a little piece of extra info for me. 58:44.420 --> 58:50.400 And again, I use UTC here, you know, with the date and the time that I relayed it. 58:50.400 --> 58:55.180 And that way, if I need to go back and try and follow its journey, I have my records. 58:55.300 --> 58:59.420 Roger will have his records, and we can start tracing it through the system. 59:00.640 --> 59:06.720 So this is how this radiogram looks from everything that we've built up. 59:06.720 --> 59:09.620 So let me zoom in on it so we have a little bit better view. 59:10.620 --> 59:14.640 So the number precedence, we had no handling instructions, so that's blank. 59:14.640 --> 59:27.280 The origin is me, check of 12 Dallas, where it's headed, the message, signature, and then who I relayed it to after, you know, I moved it on the traffic net. 59:27.280 --> 59:30.640 Are there any questions on this example? 59:33.460 --> 59:35.100 And I'll buy you some time. 59:42.680 --> 59:46.200 I did not receive an email with the radiogram download or print. 59:46.200 --> 59:53.380 Okay, so if you go to k8amh.com forward slash handouts. 59:53.380 --> 59:54.740 Oh, is that plural? 59:55.420 --> 59:57.860 Let me go find out because I don't remember. 59:57.860 --> 01:00:01.900 Um, if the browser will open. 01:00:03.460 --> 01:00:04.980 I think it's plural. 01:00:05.160 --> 01:00:06.380 Yeah, okay. 01:00:06.380 --> 01:00:07.160 Thanks, Sean. 01:00:07.160 --> 01:00:07.760 Yeah. 01:00:09.240 --> 01:00:13.000 So I'll go ahead and let this open slowly for some reason. 01:00:15.940 --> 01:00:17.000 Come on, internet. 01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:17.660 There we go. 01:00:17.680 --> 01:00:22.020 You'll find the reference guide here on the left, and then I've got two copies of the radiogram forms. 01:00:22.240 --> 01:00:26.800 One that is not fillable, the other one that is. 01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:30.240 So if you prefer to fill it out on screen, then you've got it. 01:00:32.120 --> 01:00:32.660 Great. 01:00:32.660 --> 01:00:36.060 Any other questions or anything, feel free to throw them in there. 01:00:37.660 --> 01:00:40.140 What if we have the same message going to more than one person? 01:00:40.140 --> 01:00:42.840 So let's say it's, you know, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. 01:00:43.060 --> 01:00:44.860 And I'm sending it to three different people. 01:00:44.860 --> 01:00:46.460 We call that book traffic. 01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:51.500 It's just a nice way of saying that, well, the message itself is the same. 01:00:51.500 --> 01:00:53.660 I just have it going to different people. 01:00:53.760 --> 01:00:59.320 And then when I go to relay it on the air, I only need to read the text once. 01:00:59.640 --> 01:01:04.420 And then I just give the destination separately. 01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:08.100 Each radiogram still has its own number. 01:01:08.140 --> 01:01:16.560 So if I had, you know, three going to family members in Michigan, then, you know, if it was 312 is the first one, then the second one is 313, and the next one is 314. 01:01:17.580 --> 01:01:22.260 And then the address information would change, right, different destination, but the rest of it's the same. 01:01:22.260 --> 01:01:23.920 So I would relay this. 01:01:25.140 --> 01:01:26.440 There's two ways you could do it. 01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:30.800 One is where you just give the common parts, the parts that appear the same in all of them. 01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:39.200 In Dallas, we read the first radiogram all the way through the first time. 01:01:39.200 --> 01:01:46.260 So we start with number 312, routine, kilo-weight albumin, 2, Jane Doe, great seeing you, sign. 01:01:46.260 --> 01:01:57.600 And then the next one, we would say, okay, the next one in the book is number 313, and it's going to John Smith, 123 Fake Street, and number 313, one more in the book, a copy. 01:01:57.600 --> 01:02:03.180 And then the next one would be 314 going to, you know, Jane Smith, you know, type of thing. 01:02:03.660 --> 01:02:05.580 So again, listen to that net personality. 01:02:05.600 --> 01:02:07.040 But we don't need to read the whole header. 01:02:07.040 --> 01:02:11.200 We don't need to read the text over again or things in the comment, great for your field day traffic, book of 10. 01:02:11.200 --> 01:02:13.640 Yeah, it's just more, you know, speedy type of thing. 01:02:13.700 --> 01:02:16.880 It helps speed up moving things. 01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:25.300 And you think about the, you know, ARL 56, new amateur radio license, welcome to the hobby, enjoy the fun and friendships you will make, right? 01:02:25.300 --> 01:02:42.160 If, you know, someone like Lauren, November 1, India, Quebec, India, or Chris, November X-ray 9 kilo, and Jim, you know, are sending the same greetings that we just put that through as book traffic, only have to read the message once, and then we can go through all the destinations type of thing. 01:02:43.620 --> 01:02:45.640 Okay, I talked about shorthands. 01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:47.520 So we'll dive in these in a bit. 01:02:47.520 --> 01:02:50.180 Here's an example of where a shorthand is used. 01:02:52.420 --> 01:02:57.260 And so this is real, I just, I took out the name. 01:02:58.040 --> 01:03:02.920 ARL 56, new amateur radio license, welcome to the hobby, enjoy the fun and friendships you will make, 73. 01:03:04.420 --> 01:03:07.180 Fun how you just memorize those over time. 01:03:08.380 --> 01:03:18.820 We're using a shorthand here, because this does mean something, and it's in your handout, the ARL numbered radiograms. 01:03:20.140 --> 01:03:23.740 They provide a way for us to send common phrases very quickly. 01:03:24.200 --> 01:03:28.580 When you deliver it to the other end, of course, you're going to say what it means. 01:03:28.580 --> 01:03:31.400 Like I wouldn't say, okay, you got a message, this is ARL 50. 01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:34.880 You know, they're not going to know what that means, so tell them what it means. 01:03:35.020 --> 01:03:39.180 And then in the check, we indicate that we have a shorthand in use. 01:03:39.180 --> 01:03:44.200 And so the check of 1-2, you know, example would become Alpha Romeo Lima 1-2. 01:03:44.700 --> 01:03:47.980 Again, to flag the fact that we've used a shorthand. 01:03:47.980 --> 01:03:49.180 Here are some common ones. 01:03:49.180 --> 01:03:51.480 You have the full list of them in the handout. 01:03:52.260 --> 01:03:54.540 ARL 50, greetings by amateur radio. 01:03:54.900 --> 01:04:00.920 56, congratulations on your, and then whatever, most worthy and deserved achievement. 01:04:02.020 --> 01:04:12.360 For servicing, if we want to tell a station we delivered their message, then it's ARL 47, and then we give the number and the destination and the date and time of delivery. 01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:19.440 If we couldn't deliver it, then ARL 67, and then we give the message number and maybe some other details, and then we explain why. 01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:23.900 You know, phone number, out of service, or no answer, you know, that type of thing. 01:04:24.620 --> 01:04:41.440 So when we look at this example, ARL 56, new amateur radio license, becomes congratulations on your, and this is the blank, so what follows this shorthand here, you know, new amateur radio license, initial x-ray, that's what goes in the blank. 01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:46.840 So congratulations on your new amateur radio license, a most worthy and deserved achievement. 01:04:46.980 --> 01:04:48.540 Welcome to the hobby. 01:04:48.540 --> 01:04:50.980 Enjoy the fun and friendships you will make. 01:04:50.980 --> 01:04:52.140 73. 01:04:52.380 --> 01:04:56.600 That would be how I would deliver it to its destination. 01:04:58.520 --> 01:05:05.500 We spell out the numbers in these shorthands, and this is to help clarify that this is part of the shorthand. 01:05:05.500 --> 01:05:17.560 So I would read this as initials, Alpha, Romeo, Lima, 50, I spell, Foxtrot, India, Foxtrot, Tango, Yankee, six, I spell, Sierra, India, x-ray. 01:05:17.560 --> 01:05:26.480 We're spelling them to call out the fact that they are spelled out words rather than like figure 7-3, right? 01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:34.900 We want to clarify that these are written out words rather than some digits, and so that's why we spell them out like that. 01:05:36.440 --> 01:05:42.220 Some other quick examples, and then we can do maybe a little bit of hands-on. 01:05:42.220 --> 01:05:45.180 Let me zoom in on this just for fun. 01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:50.140 So ARL50, John, and congrats on new amateur radio license. 01:05:50.140 --> 01:05:53.700 X-ray, enjoy all that the radio community offers. 01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:55.940 X-ray, best regards. 01:05:56.620 --> 01:05:59.800 ARL50, remember what that is? 01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:03.100 It's greetings by amateur radio. 01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:07.040 And so that's how greetings by amateur radio, John, and congrats on it. 01:06:07.080 --> 01:06:11.600 Here we have the op note that Peter includes. 01:06:12.140 --> 01:06:20.900 So he signs it, Peter, DL4FN, op note reply or service message to him through Roger in Richardson, Texas. 01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:26.960 And so what this means, I see someone recognizes Peter's messages in the chat. 01:06:27.160 --> 01:06:44.980 What this means is that to send something back to Peter, so like if that other station wants to say thank you and hope to hear you on the air or whatever their reply is, or if it's I couldn't deliver it because the phone number is disconnected, I would send the reply to Peter, 01:06:44.980 --> 01:06:51.120 DL4FN, care of Roger, K-E-5-Y-T-A, in Richardson, Texas. 01:06:51.120 --> 01:06:53.840 So I won't send it to Germany. 01:06:53.840 --> 01:07:04.320 I'm going to route it to Roger here in Dallas, because Peter has asked Roger here in Dallas to act as kind of his liaison to get the messages back to him in Germany. 01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:10.660 So I'm going to send it back to Roger, and then Roger will relay it across to Peter. 01:07:10.660 --> 01:07:14.360 If that makes sense, how this op note works at the end. 01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:18.360 Again, this is relating to, you know, the replies or service messages. 01:07:18.380 --> 01:07:25.460 We're going to still send this reply to Peter, but we're going to route it to Roger, because that's who Peter's designated here in the U.S. 01:07:25.480 --> 01:07:30.160 for receiving, for working, you know, those replies back to him in Germany. 01:07:32.960 --> 01:07:34.840 Same thing here on this one. 01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:41.980 Peter's got the op note, you know, hello Gary, congrats on your new amateur license, you know, that type of thing. 01:07:41.980 --> 01:07:48.700 And these are ones I put in the mail, because I choose if I can't get a hold of them on the phone, then I mail them. 01:07:48.700 --> 01:07:49.820 It's a personal choice. 01:07:49.820 --> 01:07:56.580 And I fill out these details here in the, you know, the receive box, so that if they have any questions, they know how to get a hold of me. 01:07:56.580 --> 01:08:03.560 And I put a little letter with an explanation to just saying, you know, this is part of traffic handling, and here's what the message says, and that type of thing. 01:08:04.600 --> 01:08:06.860 All right, so we'll do a little hands-on. 01:08:07.300 --> 01:08:10.160 Let's say you're going to send something to me. 01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:18.320 There's my address and phone number, and you're going to send, hope to hear you on the band soon, and 73. 01:08:18.320 --> 01:08:22.360 So go ahead and take some time, if you've got your blank radiogram printed out. 01:08:22.380 --> 01:08:27.840 And if it's, you can make up the number, one or 500, or however you want to do that. 01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:30.060 But I'll give you a couple minutes. 01:08:30.200 --> 01:08:38.720 And in the meantime, if folks have questions, feel free to throw them in the chat. 01:08:46.670 --> 01:08:50.650 Again, more fuel, getting a little cooler, but I'll still work on it 01:08:56.530 --> 01:08:56.970 . 01:08:58.390 --> 01:09:41.020 Okay, we'll give you another minute here. 01:09:41.020 --> 01:09:46.460 So again, any questions, feel free to throw them in the chat. 01:09:53.720 --> 01:10:00.460 The handling instructions definitions list, excuse me, so that is also in the handout. 01:10:00.460 --> 01:10:05.800 So why don't I open it here, and we'll kind of walk through it very, very quickly. 01:10:07.400 --> 01:10:16.940 So at the beginning of this phonetic alphabet, because again, the gold standard, and then the handling instructions, and what they all mean. 01:10:18.820 --> 01:10:29.540 Precedences, so again, priority welfare emergency, and then common prosigns that are used in traffic handling. 01:10:29.980 --> 01:10:35.360 And then that's followed by the ARL shorthands. 01:10:35.360 --> 01:10:36.740 And there are two blocks of these. 01:10:36.740 --> 01:10:45.480 The first group is generally emergency related, you know, like supplies requests or comments on damage to the area or things. 01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:47.980 Group two is more for the routine-y things. 01:10:49.700 --> 01:10:57.280 You know, greetings by amateur radio, greetings on your birthday, you know, holiday greetings, and things like that. 01:11:02.330 --> 01:11:03.770 Other questions? 01:11:16.230 --> 01:11:21.930 So from a big picture, how do I initiate a message from a local level and get it to a regional relay? 01:11:21.930 --> 01:11:40.090 So the way it'll work, we'll go through this in the net discussion, is you'll bring it to a local traffic net, and then someone else that's also checked into that traffic net will be able to act as that bridge to a regional or area net, and then they'll take that there and move it there. 01:11:40.090 --> 01:11:41.870 And that's how it'll jump across. 01:11:41.910 --> 01:11:51.310 I think it'll become a little bit clearer when we get into the... pardon me, get into the... how the traffic nets work here in just a second. 01:11:51.430 --> 01:12:00.450 But that's kind of a quick answer, is when you bring it to the local level, you'll have folks that can take things to the regional area or things, and that's how it'll keep going. 01:12:00.450 --> 01:12:02.350 Yeah, there'll be liaisons to other nets. 01:12:02.350 --> 01:12:03.850 Yeah, we're going to walk through that. 01:12:03.950 --> 01:12:04.510 Yeah. 01:12:04.610 --> 01:12:04.930 All right. 01:12:04.930 --> 01:12:06.390 So let's keep moving. 01:12:06.390 --> 01:12:08.290 If you don't have it quite filled out, that's okay. 01:12:08.750 --> 01:12:11.490 This is effectively how it should look. 01:12:11.490 --> 01:12:32.530 So whatever number you put, and then routine, your call sign, a check of nine or a niner, your city and state, today's date, then my address and phone number, and then one word in each blank, hope to hear you on the band soon, figure seven three, and then your name and your call sign here in this little tiny spot. 01:12:33.230 --> 01:12:43.150 Anybody have any questions on how we filled it out this way, or if you had something a little different, or anything that I can clarify on this? 01:12:43.910 --> 01:12:48.210 I'll give you about 30 seconds, and then we'll jump in a little bit. 01:12:48.210 --> 01:12:49.470 We got a little bit more to go. 01:12:49.470 --> 01:12:51.290 We're not doing horrible on time. 01:12:51.290 --> 01:12:54.030 We've got maybe another 10, maybe 15 minutes. 01:12:54.030 --> 01:12:55.930 I added an initial x-ray. 01:12:56.630 --> 01:12:58.730 So again, so that's the comment. 01:12:58.730 --> 01:13:00.930 I added an initial x-ray in the chat. 01:13:00.930 --> 01:13:07.070 So if you put an x-ray between soon and 73, you can do that. 01:13:08.010 --> 01:13:11.550 Is it necessary? 01:13:11.570 --> 01:13:12.470 Not necessarily. 01:13:12.470 --> 01:13:14.630 I know the sentence ended here at soon. 01:13:14.630 --> 01:13:16.630 If you put it, you can put it. 01:13:16.630 --> 01:13:23.510 But I personally like to save the five dollars, and so I don't put an x-ray there for a period. 01:13:23.950 --> 01:13:29.730 Another question, what's the rationale for place of origin? 01:13:29.730 --> 01:13:37.970 So again on this, this is the location of whoever authored this text. 01:13:38.150 --> 01:13:40.670 The rationale for that, yeah. 01:13:41.470 --> 01:13:48.050 So this is so that we know where the message came from. 01:13:48.190 --> 01:14:00.710 Because again, if you are the station of origin, like if I'm filling it out, and I'm in Dallas, the people that are authoring that message are in Fort Worth. 01:14:01.030 --> 01:14:11.030 And if I say, I need five cots at Mercy Hospital, Mercy Hospital in Fort Worth, or Mercy Hospital in Dallas, or Mercy Hospital. 01:14:11.070 --> 01:14:14.830 It just helps provide some of that clarity, first off. 01:14:14.970 --> 01:14:22.750 And then also, as Darwin's put in there, I think it's to help replies go back to the proper local net. 01:14:22.750 --> 01:14:31.370 It does help with routing, because we've got that clue in there of where we can head it back to for its destination. 01:14:31.890 --> 01:14:36.450 But when we think about emergency traffic or things, just, you know, where did this come from? 01:14:37.250 --> 01:14:39.670 You know, Kilo 8 Alpha Mike Hotel, that's an 8. 01:14:39.670 --> 01:14:42.610 So this must have come from Michigan or West Virginia or something, right? 01:14:42.610 --> 01:14:44.290 No, it's coming from Dallas, Texas. 01:14:44.570 --> 01:14:56.590 And so, you know, if I don't have access to the FCC ULS, the, you know, Universal Licensing System, or things like QRZ to look up addresses, then this is my clue. 01:14:56.590 --> 01:14:59.910 Place of origin, at least for me, when I sent it, would be Dallas, Texas. 01:14:59.910 --> 01:15:03.530 And that's how you'd know how to route it back to me type of thing. 01:15:05.030 --> 01:15:07.330 Yeah, other questions on this? 01:15:07.490 --> 01:15:09.310 Feel free to throw them in the chat. 01:15:09.310 --> 01:15:13.950 I'm gonna keep rolling just to try and keep conscious of time here. 01:15:14.770 --> 01:15:18.950 So now on traffic nets, I won't dive into this too much. 01:15:18.950 --> 01:15:24.450 It's pretty much like any other net you've hopefully joined where you get the preamble, you know, welcome to the traffic net. 01:15:24.450 --> 01:15:26.370 My name is and I'm your net control station. 01:15:26.370 --> 01:15:37.110 And I will now take check-ins from stations with traffic, which means you're bringing a radiogram that you want to introduce into the system or relay through the system. 01:15:37.310 --> 01:15:45.910 And then you can take check-ins from stations without traffic, which means I don't have any radiograms to relay, but I'm here if you need help relaying things. 01:15:46.110 --> 01:15:48.090 And then after that, the relaying begins. 01:15:48.090 --> 01:15:51.170 Two stations will connect together on the air. 01:15:51.170 --> 01:15:58.230 And then this is... I'm doing this as a voice net because that's how many folks here at Dallas get started on traffic nets is at the local level. 01:15:58.850 --> 01:16:02.430 You know, if it's a CW net or things, you know, you follow similar. 01:16:03.210 --> 01:16:05.730 Here's how a net control could log things. 01:16:05.730 --> 01:16:08.590 For this one, I was the one that was running the net. 01:16:09.950 --> 01:16:15.510 And so, of course, I tracked myself as the as the net control station. 01:16:15.510 --> 01:16:17.370 Next, we had Calvin check in. 01:16:17.370 --> 01:16:19.930 He brought a piece of traffic for Bowie, Texas. 01:16:19.950 --> 01:16:23.190 Then Don, W9BE, checked in. 01:16:23.270 --> 01:16:37.550 He acted as a liaison for TEX, the Texas Traffic Net, which that for me as a net control station tells me an option on how to route traffic out of Dallas-Fort Worth. 01:16:37.990 --> 01:16:42.310 I have this option for moving traffic out of the area. 01:16:42.310 --> 01:16:45.450 Same thing with Roger, K85YATA. 01:16:45.450 --> 01:16:48.610 He interfaces with the digital traffic net. 01:16:48.790 --> 01:16:59.850 And if I have to send something Michigan, Wisconsin, you know, Washington State, something, then I know that Roger is an option to move things out of the area through the digital traffic net. 01:16:59.850 --> 01:17:01.150 Same with John. 01:17:01.350 --> 01:17:03.670 Roger, in this case, brought a book of five. 01:17:03.670 --> 01:17:08.350 So it's the same text and things going to five different destinations. 01:17:08.350 --> 01:17:12.670 Two of those were in Dallas, one in Plano, one in Prosper, one in Melissa. 01:17:12.670 --> 01:17:17.070 And then John also had his a book of three, separate book, but book of three. 01:17:17.110 --> 01:17:21.810 And then he had one and another one that's not part of the book. 01:17:22.670 --> 01:17:33.550 And then last, Corky checked in with a net report, which is how we turn in our statistics and they get reported to me and then I report them to our headquarters. 01:17:33.550 --> 01:17:35.030 But how do we turn in those net reports? 01:17:35.030 --> 01:17:36.270 Well, through a radiogram. 01:17:38.490 --> 01:17:42.290 So, okay, let me turn off the pointer and we'll keep moving. 01:17:42.810 --> 01:18:03.250 So the way this would work is after figuring out who can route what, the net control station would have those two stations connect, you know, and say, okay, I'm, they would read the header and the address and phone number and then break. 01:18:03.350 --> 01:18:08.710 And then I would either say, please say again, phone number, or please say again, city, or please spell city. 01:18:08.710 --> 01:18:12.790 Or when I'm ready to go, I would say, go, go text, go ahead. 01:18:13.610 --> 01:18:20.410 Other station would then read the text section one word at a time, and then break. 01:18:20.530 --> 01:18:37.290 And then I would say, you know, please say again, word after blah, or go, go ahead, go signature, then they would read the signature, you know, sign some da da da, end number, whatever, no more or one more, how copy, I Roger your number, whatever, you know, 01:18:37.290 --> 01:18:43.730 thanks for the traffic and then K8AMH, and they, you know, thank you for taking that and ID and then turn it back to net control. 01:18:44.490 --> 01:18:47.930 That's how, that's how you would flow. 01:18:47.950 --> 01:18:49.790 I see the questions on how to get involved. 01:18:49.790 --> 01:18:51.410 I'll jump into that in just a second. 01:18:51.490 --> 01:18:57.350 So the way I would move this is I would say, please copy my number three, and I'm going to go fast. 01:18:57.350 --> 01:19:26.610 Please copy my number 312, routine, K8AMH, 1-2, Dallas, Texas, January 1-5, to Jane Doe, amateur call, Alfa Romeo 1-Tango, address figures 1-2-3, mixed group 8-5 Tango Hotel, street, direction southeast, some town Wisconsin, zip figures 0-0-1-2-1, phone figures 3-3-0-5-5-5-4-4-2-4, 01:19:26.610 --> 01:19:47.370 break, and the other station go ahead, great seeing you yesterday, initial x-ray, hope to get together again soon, figures 7-3, break, and the other station would say go, signed Aaron, amateur call, Kilo 8, Alfa Mike Hotel, number 312, and no more, I'll copy. 01:19:47.370 --> 01:19:52.830 And the other, I copy, Roger, you're 312, thanks for the traffic, thanks for taking K8AMH back to NET. 01:19:52.830 --> 01:19:55.470 So that's how we would move that on the air. 01:19:55.470 --> 01:19:57.770 How do you get involved in the traffic nets? 01:19:59.590 --> 01:20:04.570 I would recommend finding, if possible, a local traffic net in your area. 01:20:05.710 --> 01:20:14.530 The ARRL, main webpage, ARRL.org, has a NET database that you can search. 01:20:14.530 --> 01:20:23.850 And let me make a note, I will put that in my follow-up email, how to search local NETs. 01:20:24.030 --> 01:20:29.090 And you can find local NETs and regional NETs and things, and then get involved that way. 01:20:29.090 --> 01:20:35.750 Find the NET at your local level, or if not available, find a regional or area NET on HF. 01:20:36.010 --> 01:20:44.290 Again, listen, I recommend you listen in the beginning, get a feel for that NET and how it flows, and then you can start jumping in and participating. 01:20:44.770 --> 01:20:58.610 I know, like, for example, here at the 7290 traffic net, the first time you check in and, you know, participate in the NET, even if you don't move any traffic, they send you a radiogram thanking you for finding them and for jumping in on the NET. 01:20:58.610 --> 01:21:01.090 They're very happy to hear from folks that join in. 01:21:01.410 --> 01:21:06.490 Lots of good NETs and lots of excitement when folks want to jump in type of thing. 01:21:12.340 --> 01:21:15.120 Okay, great presentation. 01:21:15.360 --> 01:21:21.580 We got Aaron and Justin here in Discord to do a demo for us. 01:21:21.580 --> 01:21:26.760 So I'll let you guys take it from here, and we'll do some questions afterwards. 01:21:27.620 --> 01:21:29.100 Go ahead. 01:21:32.320 --> 01:21:35.240 All right, I'll take it, I guess. 01:21:35.240 --> 01:21:37.620 Everybody, thanks for jumping in. 01:21:37.620 --> 01:21:40.780 We'll do a couple of practice radiograms here. 01:21:40.860 --> 01:21:47.800 If you've printed them out from the handouts page, and I promise I'll go nice and slow. 01:21:48.480 --> 01:22:04.860 You could give this a spin to see how it flows for you when filling out the radiogram, and then if there's any questions on, well, what happened there, or what did that mean, or those types of things, we've got some time here to take questions. 01:22:04.940 --> 01:22:09.520 So hopefully I've bought enough time for folks to get their blank radiograms handy. 01:22:10.020 --> 01:22:13.260 I'll just go ahead and start doing this. 01:22:13.260 --> 01:22:20.120 If this works, or do you want to do questions first, let me double check to make sure I'm good to go with the relaying. 01:22:20.120 --> 01:22:21.120 Let's go ahead. 01:22:21.260 --> 01:22:23.560 All righty, then we'll go ahead and get started. 01:22:23.580 --> 01:22:44.940 And this will be number 809-routine, Kilo 8 Alpha Mike Hotel, 1-4, Dallas, Texas, August 9-r, to your station. 01:22:44.940 --> 01:22:49.820 That's how we would do that on the air when it's going to the recipient is the same ham. 01:22:49.820 --> 01:22:52.760 So going to your station, break. 01:22:52.760 --> 01:22:56.620 This is where somebody would say go. 01:22:56.620 --> 01:22:58.500 So I'll assume I gotta go. 01:22:58.500 --> 01:23:08.120 Thank you for attending today. 01:23:08.340 --> 01:23:15.600 Hope to get some traffic 01:23:19.440 --> 01:23:23.540 from you soon. 01:23:24.820 --> 01:23:27.640 Figures 7-3, break. 01:23:27.760 --> 01:23:32.400 And again, I, you know, say again or something, but you know, go, you know, we'll do go signature. 01:23:32.400 --> 01:23:38.360 That's signed Aaron Amateur Call, Kilo 8 Alpha Mike Hotel. 01:23:38.360 --> 01:23:41.420 End number 809-r, and no more. 01:23:41.420 --> 01:23:42.800 I'll copy. 01:23:44.540 --> 01:23:48.280 And so hopefully that first, hopefully I was slow enough. 01:23:49.160 --> 01:23:52.980 So yeah, I learned with some stations, I can go faster than with others. 01:23:52.980 --> 01:23:56.160 And so I try to adjust the speed based on that. 01:23:58.060 --> 01:24:01.120 I don't know if we can throw that one up on the screen. 01:24:01.120 --> 01:24:02.480 Yeah, you're ready for the reveal? 01:24:02.700 --> 01:24:03.500 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:24:03.500 --> 01:24:04.020 Sure thing. 01:24:04.020 --> 01:24:08.100 And then if any questions on, well, why did that go there? 01:24:08.100 --> 01:24:10.680 Or that was really confusing. 01:24:10.680 --> 01:24:11.420 How come this? 01:24:11.420 --> 01:24:12.540 Or, you know, that type of thing. 01:24:14.140 --> 01:24:18.400 Yeah, definitely wanted to give that clarity type of thing. 01:24:18.400 --> 01:24:21.760 Or if you're experts, then you could take Justin. 01:24:22.720 --> 01:24:26.280 And, you know, we'll double check that, you know, things are good. 01:24:26.280 --> 01:24:30.240 And then we had some questions during the presentation part. 01:24:30.240 --> 01:24:32.160 I want to jump in on those as well. 01:24:32.160 --> 01:24:35.200 And if any other questions type of thing. 01:24:37.800 --> 01:24:40.560 Otherwise, silence is acceptance. 01:24:40.560 --> 01:24:43.720 Let's go to Justin's demo here. 01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:44.440 Sure. 01:24:44.740 --> 01:24:45.240 All right. 01:24:45.240 --> 01:24:47.960 Well, yep, I have one more if you want to try it again. 01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:51.520 And again, as they say, every NAT usually has their own personality. 01:24:51.520 --> 01:24:53.040 So mine might sound a little bit different. 01:24:53.100 --> 01:24:55.060 So I'll go ahead and get started. 01:24:55.100 --> 01:25:18.640 Please copy message number one, three, routine, kilo, echo, eight, Mike, Yankee, Foxtrot, one, eight, Grand Rapids, I spell Romeo, Alpha, Papa, India, Delta, Sierra, Michigan, August 9. 01:25:18.880 --> 01:25:21.540 Going to your station. 01:25:21.560 --> 01:25:22.540 Break. 01:25:23.500 --> 01:25:25.360 Go. 01:25:25.820 --> 01:25:27.600 All right. 01:25:27.800 --> 01:25:37.680 Thanks for attending this talk. 01:25:37.760 --> 01:26:08.940 And hope to, I spell Tango Oscar, C, I spell Sierra, Echo, Echo, U, all at mixed group, Delta, Charlie, two, niner, initial X-ray, hack, the planet, figures 73. 01:26:08.940 --> 01:26:09.860 Break. 01:26:11.140 --> 01:26:12.740 Go ahead. 01:26:12.840 --> 01:26:21.560 Signed Justin, amateur call, kilo, echo, eight, Mike, Yankee, Foxtrot, end message number one, three, no more, how copy? 01:26:21.880 --> 01:26:24.020 Roger, one, three, thanks for the traffic. 01:26:24.260 --> 01:26:26.040 It's that, Debbie, we do it here. 01:26:26.600 --> 01:26:27.120 Yeah. 01:26:27.680 --> 01:26:30.480 Very good, let's do a reveal on that. 01:26:32.800 --> 01:26:34.860 Here we go, that's what it should look like. 01:26:42.260 --> 01:26:47.680 All right, yeah, so on that one, we also had a mixed group in there with a DC -29, that's another thing to keep out . 01:26:47.680 --> 01:26:59.580 And when I mentioned the word two, I made sure to spell it out, just so it's 100% accurate, and someone didn't write Tango Oscar Oscar on accident, they would spell Tango Oscar. 01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:04.080 So that's, when there's words like that, it's always important to make sure you spell those out. 01:27:06.780 --> 01:27:11.580 Very good, we'll leave this up here for a few seconds and go to Q&A. 01:27:11.800 --> 01:27:14.120 I guess let's go there now. 01:27:14.180 --> 01:27:16.600 So, let's go to the chats. 01:27:17.480 --> 01:27:23.600 Hit up Discord, Presentation Chat, or Twitch, and we'll get some questions. 01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:29.720 But I guess first, you wanted to go over questions from the video, so go ahead, Aaron. 01:27:29.720 --> 01:27:30.480 Oh, okay. 01:27:30.480 --> 01:27:32.940 All right, we had two that came up during that. 01:27:33.640 --> 01:27:42.540 First one, do you know if and how other local and section traffic nets discourage use of the Internet or national traffic system relay? 01:27:42.540 --> 01:27:50.660 So the heart of that question really is how does the Internet play in with relaying traffic? 01:27:50.660 --> 01:28:01.240 And I mean, you could think of that as Echo Link, or maybe if you're on All Star, or something like that, where you're leveraging the Internet for moving things. 01:28:01.360 --> 01:28:06.800 From the national traffic system side, we really want things to go over the air. 01:28:06.800 --> 01:28:13.300 We are preparing for when infrastructure is not available. 01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:17.780 And sometimes you get the pushback of, well, when will that really happen? 01:28:18.020 --> 01:28:30.740 And you know, T-Mobile, third party, had an issue on their end, and it disrupted cellular communications, essentially across the board. 01:28:32.080 --> 01:28:34.740 That's the scenario we're preparing for. 01:28:34.900 --> 01:28:44.900 And so if we get into the habit of, well, I've got to relay this traffic from Dallas to, you know, I don't know, Washington, or California, or Massachusetts, or something. 01:28:44.900 --> 01:28:47.880 And it's, well, I'll just hop on Echo Link and go over the Internet and do that. 01:28:48.040 --> 01:28:51.180 And we built that habit of, we're just going to use the Internet. 01:28:51.180 --> 01:29:02.080 And when things really do hit the fan, and we've got to go over the air, you kind of have to now start getting into that over-the-air HF handling. 01:29:02.080 --> 01:29:03.780 That's not the time we want to do that. 01:29:03.780 --> 01:29:13.540 We want to practice that now and build that muscle memory now so that when the event does happen, we can just flow into it and run with it. 01:29:13.540 --> 01:29:28.920 And by using HF now, if there is a piece of traffic that stalls or something like that, we can investigate and understand and improve the traffic system so that we're ready to roll when something does happen. 01:29:28.920 --> 01:29:33.700 If we try to shortcut that and use the Internet, well, I couldn't get over HF, so I just dived on the Internet. 01:29:33.700 --> 01:29:36.780 And we haven't really addressed what's going on. 01:29:37.560 --> 01:29:49.860 Internet, some independent traffic nets use Echo Link or things, but from the ARL side, we really wanted to move over the air to reflect a real-world situation type of thing. 01:29:50.880 --> 01:29:59.180 If that hopefully provides the clarity there, if there's something I can clarify a little further, feel free to throw it in the discussion. 01:29:59.660 --> 01:30:04.380 The other question we had was, international radiograms are always in English. 01:30:05.440 --> 01:30:16.940 For traffic originating in the U.S., the common language that's over the air for us is English, because that's one of the common languages here in the U.S. 01:30:16.940 --> 01:30:26.520 If I had something that entered the system, let's say in Spanish, I'm in Dallas, that would be a good candidate for another language I might have. 01:30:26.720 --> 01:30:40.840 If I had no other option, I had no interpreters of things, and my quasi-Spanish skills could make it work, then I would try my best to try and make that move. 01:30:40.840 --> 01:30:48.040 Now, there's some assumptions that happen with that, that the people that get that along the way are going to be able to do the same thing. 01:30:48.040 --> 01:30:56.180 That's the risk when you start taking traffic in a language other than English. 01:30:57.880 --> 01:31:06.300 The thing has got to keep moving, and you have to move it within the system that really the majority of us are all speaking English. 01:31:06.940 --> 01:31:13.960 If you want to amplify that example even further, what if it was Chinese or Japanese or something, right? 01:31:14.820 --> 01:31:17.940 That just adds even more complexity to things. 01:31:18.360 --> 01:31:23.220 When we're moving traffic here in the U.S., and the national traffic system against U.S. 01:31:23.220 --> 01:31:33.720 and Canada, English is the language that's commonly used for that, and drives the very, very, very, very, very vast majority of traffic. 01:31:33.720 --> 01:31:36.600 I have not encountered anything that wasn't in English. 01:31:36.600 --> 01:31:44.400 And if it's headed to Peter in Germany, I know I've had some traffic from Great Britain, so it'll be English. 01:31:44.580 --> 01:31:47.260 But things moving in and out, it's English. 01:31:49.560 --> 01:31:50.960 Very good. 01:31:51.700 --> 01:31:53.720 Let's go to the chats. 01:31:53.900 --> 01:31:57.120 Twitch and Discord, everybody, throw your questions out there. 01:31:57.120 --> 01:31:59.880 We'll get Aaron to answer for us. 01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:06.680 I think the talk was so good, everything was answered. 01:32:08.540 --> 01:32:14.260 And then I think you had the two big questions just there, so we'll keep it open here for a minute. 01:32:14.260 --> 01:32:16.060 It is very... 01:32:16.060 --> 01:32:20.380 it's kind of like, okay, here's the fire hose, and enjoy. 01:32:20.780 --> 01:32:26.040 So I give this talk once a month. 01:32:26.040 --> 01:32:30.400 My next one is this coming Saturday. 01:32:32.720 --> 01:32:34.920 K8AMH.com forward slash events. 01:32:34.920 --> 01:32:43.180 I have some folks that take it a couple of times where the first time is, all right, I'm ready to be overwhelmed. 01:32:43.460 --> 01:32:47.780 And then you kind of have some time to kind of digest. 01:32:48.060 --> 01:32:52.160 But then come back to the next one, and you go, oh, yeah, I remember that. 01:32:52.160 --> 01:32:53.280 Or, oh, okay. 01:32:53.280 --> 01:32:55.580 It's just kind of the frame of reference changes. 01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:02.800 if this is kind of like, oh, my, holy crap, this is a bunch. 01:33:04.120 --> 01:33:07.440 You're welcome to jump back in again, of course, type of thing. 01:33:07.880 --> 01:33:10.620 There's definitely a lot to absorb. 01:33:11.840 --> 01:33:14.060 It's not something that's learned in 10 minutes. 01:33:14.320 --> 01:33:16.200 It's something that's built in time. 01:33:16.200 --> 01:33:19.040 That muscle memory gets built with time. 01:33:20.060 --> 01:33:24.360 Does this system get used for QSL card equivalent sometimes? 01:33:24.740 --> 01:33:25.680 Yes. 01:33:25.760 --> 01:33:33.100 We'll get traffic sometimes that, you know, great hearing you on HF or something along that line type of thing. 01:33:33.880 --> 01:33:36.180 Hope to hear from you again or those types of things. 01:33:36.180 --> 01:33:41.220 It's something that moves across the traffic system. 01:33:42.220 --> 01:33:45.740 We get those types of radiograms. 01:33:45.740 --> 01:33:47.880 We get the happy birthday, merry Christmas. 01:33:47.880 --> 01:33:55.720 We get the welcome to the hobbies or ask about areas in your area or those types of things. 01:33:56.480 --> 01:34:04.480 We've had a couple of things that we're doing here to help with generating some variety in traffic too that I can quickly mention. 01:34:04.480 --> 01:34:08.980 One's a trivia program where once a week there's a new question that comes up. 01:34:10.240 --> 01:34:15.800 And you can send in your answer for points and the points are just kind of , you know, why not? 01:34:15.800 --> 01:34:17.280 I'll get some statistics. 01:34:17.600 --> 01:34:22.660 But, you know, say you got five right in the last couple months or that type of thing. 01:34:24.040 --> 01:34:27.160 But you send your answers as radiograms to the traffic system. 01:34:27.160 --> 01:34:30.900 And I get to see how long it takes too. 01:34:30.900 --> 01:34:35.800 So it gives me some data points to say, well, how is this system working and did that take, you know, one day or two days? 01:34:35.800 --> 01:34:39.040 And on average it takes two days for things to move across the country. 01:34:39.480 --> 01:34:42.220 But if you get that occasional, why did that take two weeks? 01:34:42.220 --> 01:34:49.860 Then you have the opportunity to understand and try and improve things to make it better for next time type of thing. 01:34:52.380 --> 01:34:54.360 ntstrivia.com is the place for that one. 01:34:54.680 --> 01:35:05.640 And I also have a pen pal program where I kind of hook you up with another traffic handler and you kind of start the conversation of getting to know each other through radiograms type of thing. 01:35:05.640 --> 01:35:10.300 So it's exactly pen pals, except instead of letters in the mail, it's traffic through the traffic system. 01:35:10.300 --> 01:35:13.300 And that's at ntspenpal.com. 01:35:13.300 --> 01:35:17.400 I should probably put those addresses in the chat areas. 01:35:17.720 --> 01:35:19.700 Might be helpful. 01:35:20.580 --> 01:35:22.240 So why don't I do that? 01:35:22.240 --> 01:35:26.980 We'll throw that in chat and definitely include it in the metadata for the video. 01:35:27.160 --> 01:35:28.800 Thank you, Aaron. 01:35:28.800 --> 01:35:29.800 Thank you, Justin. 01:35:29.800 --> 01:35:31.540 I think we're out of time. 01:35:32.060 --> 01:35:35.920 Let's give a virtual round of applause. 01:35:35.920 --> 01:35:37.800 That was an amazing presentation. 01:35:37.800 --> 01:35:39.840 Definitely a lot to absorb. 01:35:40.220 --> 01:35:42.640 I hope this system gets used more. 01:35:42.640 --> 01:35:47.000 I'd definitely like to see some more radiograms in my local area. 01:35:47.060 --> 01:35:48.580 That's very great. 01:35:48.580 --> 01:35:49.540 Thank you. 01:35:49.540 --> 01:35:50.120 Perfect. 01:35:50.120 --> 01:35:50.840 Thanks, everybody. 01:35:50.840 --> 01:35:53.440 And if you have any questions, k8mh at arl.net. 01:35:53.440 --> 01:35:54.300 Feel free. 01:35:54.480 --> 01:35:56.460 Everyone have a great day. 01:35:56.600 --> 01:35:57.020 Thank you.