1 00:00:01,620 --> 00:00:04,020 Hello, DEF CON Lockpick Village. 2 00:00:04,060 --> 00:00:05,840 Super excited to be here. 3 00:00:05,900 --> 00:00:08,760 This is my talk, Doors, Cameras, and Mantraps. 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:09,740 Oh my! 5 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,740 An overview about the ins and outs of physical security risk assessment. 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:19,040 If you are curious about pursuing this as a career option, you are in the right place. 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:24,760 If you want to learn about lockpicking, I'll mention some sources that can help with that later on in the talk. 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,700 Here is a quick intro. 9 00:00:30,700 --> 00:00:34,180 I am The Magician, or Dylan, whichever you prefer. 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,740 I am a member of the Open Organization of Lockpickers in Orlando. 11 00:00:38,740 --> 00:00:41,840 I am a security consultant with Gold Sky Security. 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,540 I teach cybersecurity at the University of Central Florida. 13 00:00:45,540 --> 00:00:46,560 Go Knights! 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,700 And I am an overall security enthusiast. 15 00:00:49,700 --> 00:00:52,640 This is really a hobby for me, as much as a career. 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,080 What I do is straightforward. 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:04,720 I explore client sites with the defenders in tow, so I can demonstrate for them any physical security vulnerabilities I spot. 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:12,560 Bringing the client defenders with me allows for a teach-back while on-site, instead of solely in our report. 19 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,460 It is an absolute blast. 20 00:01:15,340 --> 00:01:18,040 This mostly summarizes the process. 21 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,700 I show them the vulnerability, and I tell them the mitigation. 22 00:01:24,470 --> 00:01:27,190 So, what are we going to discuss in this talk? 23 00:01:27,190 --> 00:01:30,510 This is not a lockpicking or how-to talk. 24 00:01:30,510 --> 00:01:40,230 This is more a talk about the processes and procedures, mostly about what we look for and how we relay the information to the clients. 25 00:01:40,810 --> 00:01:50,270 I will cover physical security controls, key questions I ask my clients, and how I go about educating the clients about risk mitigation. 26 00:01:50,550 --> 00:01:54,270 At the end, I'll talk about how to approach this field. 27 00:01:56,450 --> 00:01:59,870 Physical security controls start with the front door, I think. 28 00:01:59,870 --> 00:02:02,950 So, I want to start with doors and windows. 29 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:11,500 There are a lot of mechanical components to doors, but here's a short list I tackle. 30 00:02:11,500 --> 00:02:15,660 Do perimeter doors have the hinges exposed to the outside? 31 00:02:15,660 --> 00:02:17,460 Those hinges can be exploited. 32 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:24,800 Can I slide something between the latch and the strike plate to pull the door open without a key or combination? 33 00:02:25,220 --> 00:02:30,700 Can I get tools over or under the doors to manipulate the door handles? 34 00:02:31,340 --> 00:02:42,380 If I run across double doors, can I manipulate crash bars, those bars that go across the middle of doors that you can kind of push open with your hip so you don't need to use a knob or a handle? 35 00:02:42,380 --> 00:02:45,980 These are all resolvable exploits. 36 00:02:48,550 --> 00:02:55,030 While some windows can be opened or manipulated in similar ways, they offer different challenges. 37 00:02:55,030 --> 00:03:04,270 In a lot of office spaces, some clients don't have policies about shoulder surfing or looking over the shoulder of a user to obtain information. 38 00:03:04,710 --> 00:03:07,550 This is a physical security risk. 39 00:03:07,850 --> 00:03:24,670 If someone is trying to establish a good time for physical entry, maybe just what PC operating systems are being used, or even information as simple as what browser type a particular company is using, looking through a window is really low effort. 40 00:03:24,730 --> 00:03:30,270 This clip, by the way, is very much not a risk model my clients have ever asked me to test. 41 00:03:33,660 --> 00:03:38,100 The next physical controls are fencing and bollards. 42 00:03:38,100 --> 00:03:41,940 Both are passive and require little maintenance in most cases. 43 00:03:41,940 --> 00:03:48,480 Even though some folks are scratching their heads about what bollards are, don't worry, you've seen them before. 44 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:56,540 Fencing is obvious, maybe folks have them in their homes or at work maybe. 45 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:03,600 Fencing establishes a clear perimeter, if locked, clearly sets an expectation of limited access. 46 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:13,180 It would take a heck of an improviser to explain to a guard why you are walking around a parking lot or building at a locked and closed facility. 47 00:04:13,500 --> 00:04:22,640 It's also near impossible to scale a fence in most environments without attracting attention, unless in a very rural location. 48 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:36,100 You have all seen bollards before, they are the reinforced obstacles that prevent the use of a vehicle as a battering ram to create a point of entry in an otherwise defended structure. 49 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:43,180 This is a very fancy hydraulically assisted version, but here we are at a Target. 50 00:04:43,740 --> 00:04:47,420 Remember when we used to go to Target in 2019 for groceries? 51 00:04:47,420 --> 00:04:48,640 Those were the days. 52 00:04:49,440 --> 00:05:03,960 In front of the store, these steel reinforced concrete spheres are not just to look cool, they actually prevent people from running their cars into the glass doors to gain access in off hours to steal random stuff. 53 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,800 It's a pretty simple passive risk mitigation, I think. 54 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,180 Full bonus, I just find it fun to say bollards. 55 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,840 Next up are Mantraps. 56 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:19,060 This is a super cool concept. 57 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,820 Mantraps are completely underutilized. 58 00:05:26,140 --> 00:05:34,900 Sure, it's a challenge to get people through them, you'll understand why a flow of people can be interrupted in a moment, but I think they are really awesome. 59 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:42,940 Many banks have them, and after seeing the next slide, I'm willing to bet a few of you are going to be sitting at home saying, holy cow, I've totally seen those. 60 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:50,440 This is a great scene from the movie Sneakers, my personal favorite hacker movie. 61 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:55,960 The lead character, Bishop, walks through a glass sliding door after using a magnetic stripe reader. 62 00:05:55,980 --> 00:06:02,020 The door closes behind him, and another door is in his way that uses a biometric reader. 63 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,120 Now he has to get past that. 64 00:06:04,580 --> 00:06:08,160 Super neat control that I would love to see in more places. 65 00:06:11,070 --> 00:06:14,670 Cameras are a great security control for several reasons. 66 00:06:14,670 --> 00:06:22,070 If you have the means, I encourage you all to grab some power over ethernet or wi-fi cameras and try hacking them. 67 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,120 Cameras are in most businesses and some homes now. 68 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:36,920 If you have the funding at a job site, you can even have your cameras actively monitored in a SOC or security operations center. 69 00:06:37,100 --> 00:06:46,120 Lots of small to mid-sized businesses just record video and reference it in incident response if something goes wrong for forensic purposes. 70 00:06:46,380 --> 00:06:56,620 Video is easy to store and you could find out who took company property maybe after they got terminated or who was negligent in some security policy. 71 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:03,860 There are many technologies in the world of cameras, but I firmly believe that wi-fi cameras specifically are a poor choice. 72 00:07:03,900 --> 00:07:07,240 Please reach out for that soapbox rant if you like. 73 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:15,620 A fun fact about a lot security cameras is that often they aren't even powered on at job sites. 74 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:29,920 Because I love surveillance cameras and have several to tinker with at home, my oldest son has developed a curiosity around them and likes to point them out when we are at theme parks here in Orlando. 75 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,980 He can quite accurately count the number of cameras on the walk up to a structure. 76 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:43,520 Would you have seen the two massive dome cameras on top of this archway at Universal Studios Florida if I had not put boxes in this photo? 77 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:50,300 Heck, I can't even see them hardly with the boxes, but I assure you if you go to Google Maps, they are there. 78 00:07:50,300 --> 00:07:51,360 Go check it out. 79 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:59,940 For electronic access, I am going to do a very light touch because it is quite a dense topic. 80 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:08,460 Most of you are in an office environment and have some token that grants you access. 81 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:17,320 A radio frequency ID badge that you wave in front of a reader that opens a magnetic sealed door might be your front door. 82 00:08:17,380 --> 00:08:24,200 A pin code that is shared among employees and janitorial staff might get you into privileged rooms. 83 00:08:24,220 --> 00:08:27,940 Maybe a fingerprint even unlocks the laptop at your desk. 84 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:35,820 Grocery stores even have electronic sensors that know when someone is there and detect motion and open for you. 85 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:43,320 All of these things can be exploited or copied in some way. 86 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,260 I personally am one of the many cyborgs in the hacker community. 87 00:08:47,260 --> 00:09:07,120 I got an implant from Dangerous Things last year and can clone radio frequency ID badges to my hand and I use that to educate clients about the importance of cycling the guest badge so that way someone can't take that badge number and then come back with it and let themselves in. 88 00:09:09,970 --> 00:09:15,090 Next I want to talk about how to speak to clients in a productive way. 89 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,100 What is your personal area of concern? 90 00:09:21,100 --> 00:09:25,800 In other words, ask a client what on earth they care about. 91 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:32,300 I've demoed a parking lot to server room break-in in four minutes and had a client shrug their shoulders. 92 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:38,000 Their dollars were in a manufacturing area in another more secure location. 93 00:09:38,740 --> 00:09:42,880 Ask your client what they want you to put time into. 94 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:49,900 Being efficient is a good way to get repeat clients in a role where often you're billing hourly. 95 00:09:52,620 --> 00:09:54,900 Don't miss any doors. 96 00:09:54,900 --> 00:09:59,740 There is no shame in verifying with a client that you have tested the entire perimeter. 97 00:10:02,020 --> 00:10:06,360 Ask which doors get the most traffic and which get the least. 98 00:10:06,660 --> 00:10:18,500 Some doors may have super beefy security while another may be a smoking area door, has people flowing in and out of it throughout the day, and has less security favoring convenience. 99 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:24,740 Those are good doors to test a tailgating attack where you try and walk in behind an employee. 100 00:10:27,450 --> 00:10:36,870 Because you truly are a guest in the scenario of being a security risk assessor, you can test guest access policies firsthand. 101 00:10:37,130 --> 00:10:47,670 In some cases, if it is in scope, meaning if the client has agreed to it ahead of time, try entering the client premises and asking to use the restroom. 102 00:10:47,670 --> 00:10:50,790 Then see how far you can get into the building unattended. 103 00:10:52,750 --> 00:11:00,150 If you show up and notice a robust check-in policy, maybe with a photo and temp badge, great. 104 00:11:00,190 --> 00:11:02,270 That is often not the case. 105 00:11:02,490 --> 00:11:04,070 Do you get an escort? 106 00:11:04,110 --> 00:11:05,470 Also a bonus. 107 00:11:05,710 --> 00:11:12,030 Can I keep an RFID badge and replay it when I come back next year for an assignment? 108 00:11:12,030 --> 00:11:14,670 Not ideal, but I've seen that before. 109 00:11:15,050 --> 00:11:21,630 Do you get watched like you're a suspicious hacker in a hoodie, or is there instant trust once you've made it past the perimeter? 110 00:11:22,230 --> 00:11:26,430 Final fun thing to look for if you get a guest badge. 111 00:11:26,570 --> 00:11:28,750 Where can you get in the building? 112 00:11:28,750 --> 00:11:33,730 You might be surprised to find yourself in a CEO or CFO office if you're lucky. 113 00:11:36,070 --> 00:11:41,290 Here we see some extremely robust guest security policies in action. 114 00:11:41,370 --> 00:11:48,310 Armed guards are monitoring a guest who is also restrained and has their tools confiscated temporarily. 115 00:11:48,590 --> 00:11:58,370 Someone in a security someone in security operations hands the guest off to a person of authority who is also armed for the purposes of communication. 116 00:11:58,370 --> 00:12:05,010 This is a bit much, but similar procedures are not unheard of in a military or DoD establishment. 117 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:12,280 As a social engineering enthusiast myself, this is a huge topic. 118 00:12:12,300 --> 00:12:19,800 Entire companies are dedicated to just educating and empowering employees to act as part of the security team for a company. 119 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,200 Here are quick points on the matter. 120 00:12:24,500 --> 00:12:26,820 Gamify your security training. 121 00:12:26,980 --> 00:12:33,100 A traveling trophy can go on the desk of the person with the least clicks on email phishing one month. 122 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:39,300 Or maybe someone else who always locks their computer when they head to the break room. 123 00:12:39,780 --> 00:12:41,100 Be creative. 124 00:12:41,260 --> 00:12:49,160 Let employees know that they are an integral part in the security of their company and that they can be the first line of defense. 125 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,320 Every employee is part of the security team. 126 00:12:55,310 --> 00:13:00,550 As a social engineering enthusiast, this is equally important. 127 00:13:00,550 --> 00:13:05,410 You want to make sure you're establishing rapport with your clients. 128 00:13:05,410 --> 00:13:07,770 You want them to want you to come back. 129 00:13:07,770 --> 00:13:11,970 Constructive criticism can be done in a very positive way. 130 00:13:15,310 --> 00:13:31,190 While there have been tons of talks about how to exploit mechanical components of physical security, there have been just a few that cover the specifics of educating the clients on how to go about resolving the exploits that you've demonstrated on the job. 131 00:13:31,510 --> 00:13:34,770 Constructive criticisms are the way to go. 132 00:13:34,770 --> 00:13:37,850 A positive focus is absolutely critical. 133 00:13:37,850 --> 00:13:41,050 Directed or accusatory verbiage is never productive. 134 00:13:41,050 --> 00:13:51,210 Saying things like, this is so bad, or I can't believe you set it up this way, need to be replaced with, we have some good opportunities here for improvement. 135 00:13:51,650 --> 00:13:55,350 Simple phrasing can mean a huge world of difference. 136 00:13:56,010 --> 00:14:03,690 Also, leading a client to come to their own conclusions through education and demonstration will work wonders for client morale. 137 00:14:06,030 --> 00:14:08,170 Here is the show and tell part. 138 00:14:08,170 --> 00:14:10,530 This really is my favorite part of the job. 139 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:19,500 Showing the defender's vulnerabilities on-site is immensely fun and can have an extremely positive impact. 140 00:14:19,740 --> 00:14:27,920 Telling someone you can bypass a door versus showing them how has a huge difference in the likelihood that a mitigation will be implemented. 141 00:14:28,340 --> 00:14:33,020 This step in the process also gets the most heads popping into the room. 142 00:14:33,220 --> 00:14:36,740 It gets people excited about the security of their company. 143 00:14:36,740 --> 00:14:43,340 I have yet to run across a group of employees that doesn't show interest in an under-door tool or a latch slip. 144 00:14:46,270 --> 00:14:48,270 This is pretty big. 145 00:14:48,430 --> 00:14:53,930 This is all about soft skills and keeping people calm in an otherwise stressful environment. 146 00:14:53,990 --> 00:14:58,330 Fear, uncertainty, and doubt have no place when you're trying to be productive. 147 00:15:01,180 --> 00:15:08,080 You want to avoid saying things like, oh, this is bad, or you've done this incorrectly. 148 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,220 Instead, be inclusive and positive. 149 00:15:10,220 --> 00:15:11,100 We can fix this. 150 00:15:11,100 --> 00:15:12,240 No big deal. 151 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,140 Make sure that you're explaining things. 152 00:15:16,140 --> 00:15:17,580 You're not telling them. 153 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,740 You don't want to just send an email with resolutions. 154 00:15:21,740 --> 00:15:24,300 You want to actually have a human conversation. 155 00:15:27,260 --> 00:15:33,380 This is pretty much the best explainer of fear, uncertainty, and doubt and why it can damage a client relationship. 156 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,740 Fear is not a good motivator to get risks mitigated. 157 00:15:36,740 --> 00:15:37,980 Educate and empower. 158 00:15:37,980 --> 00:15:39,860 Never belittle or disrespect. 159 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,940 Provide some means for clients to reach out to you. 160 00:15:46,940 --> 00:15:48,800 Don't be out of touch. 161 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:57,320 A reputable company should provide you with a company email, and if you're lucky, a company phone number. 162 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:05,180 This can separate work and home, and keeping a work-life balance in this particular career field can be challenging at times. 163 00:16:05,180 --> 00:16:12,480 Make sure to also set expectations about when you can be reached and how long it may take for you to respond. 164 00:16:15,260 --> 00:16:19,460 I feel education is the most important aspect of hacking and security. 165 00:16:19,540 --> 00:16:23,880 That's not to say that a four-year degree or anything like that is needed. 166 00:16:24,260 --> 00:16:26,080 Kudos if you're going that route. 167 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:31,440 The different approaches to learning are varied, but here are a few. 168 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:36,360 Podcasts, YouTube, and Udemy were big wins for me personally. 169 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:46,480 If you want to get into lockpicking or just see some jaw-dropping feats of lock exploits, then look no further than Lockpicking Lawyer. 170 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:51,460 The content on his channel is consistently enjoyable and never stale or boring. 171 00:16:51,460 --> 00:16:56,300 If you are an auditory learner, then podcasts are fantastic. 172 00:16:56,300 --> 00:17:00,620 Darknet Diaries is amazing, with great storytelling and incredible guests. 173 00:17:00,620 --> 00:17:05,420 The lessons learned are valuable and always come in an entertaining package. 174 00:17:05,460 --> 00:17:19,180 If you want to develop your own podcast, or if you want to direct your attention at certification to prove you know a specific skillset, then Mike Myers on Udemy has, I personally think, the best online content for CompTIA Security Plus and Network Plus. 175 00:17:19,580 --> 00:17:26,160 He does cover some physical security content in the Security Plus lecture, and he does it in a very fun way. 176 00:17:26,620 --> 00:17:32,420 These three are Bill Nye-level explainers, for those of you who are old enough to remember Bill Nye from the 90s. 177 00:17:34,460 --> 00:17:37,060 Well, not everyone learns from books. 178 00:17:37,060 --> 00:17:42,160 I know I certainly can, specifically if the content is fascinating to me. 179 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:48,140 I tried to trim this down to a short list that I can recommend for everybody. 180 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:58,020 Social Engineering, The Science of Human Hacking by Chris Hadnagy is a very professional and comprehensive guide to social engineering. 181 00:17:58,020 --> 00:18:08,400 If you want to learn more about that kind of engagement, Practical Lock Picking by Deviant gives you a more complete understanding of locks, not just how to pick them. 182 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:14,580 The Art of Deception by Kevin Mitnick is super famous, and if you haven't read it, you really should. 183 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:22,780 Although, I will mention that Chris Hadnagy's book is more of a scientific and professional approach to learning about social engineering. 184 00:18:22,780 --> 00:18:27,340 What every body is saying is very useful if reading people. 185 00:18:27,340 --> 00:18:30,600 This is helpful in everyday life as well as on the job. 186 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:36,700 Just like previously, I wanted to throw in something strictly for those aiming at certifications. 187 00:18:36,780 --> 00:18:42,980 I really am a huge fan of anything and everything under the ExamCram brand. 188 00:18:42,980 --> 00:18:47,560 I really think they portray the information in a way that's very easy to absorb. 189 00:18:49,740 --> 00:18:56,700 This was a big topic for me, and I hope to emulate those who helped me and pay it forward, so to speak. 190 00:18:56,700 --> 00:19:00,920 Approach professionals and listen to talks. 191 00:19:02,180 --> 00:19:03,860 Be courteous. 192 00:19:03,860 --> 00:19:06,720 These people are busy and have their own lives. 193 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:12,840 That consideration aside, security professionals are people and like to share their experiences. 194 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:20,400 I have received an amazing amount of support from the security community and wanted to list folks who were large influences for me. 195 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:29,340 I encourage you to pore over previous DEF CON talks and find individuals who share your personal mindset and speak to you specifically. 196 00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:35,320 Use the knowledge shared in venues like this to build an even stronger community of sharing. 197 00:19:37,540 --> 00:19:44,540 While I know I am biased as an instructor, I recommend taking guided courses if you are able. 198 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,680 Here are some I personally plan to attend as soon as we are able. 199 00:19:51,760 --> 00:20:00,720 You can learn physical security, social engineering, or really anything you like in a course guided by a professional in the field. 200 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,020 A textbook will never have all the answers. 201 00:20:04,020 --> 00:20:12,600 Being able to raise your hand and ask the what ifs and what about this type questions are hugely valuable. 202 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:27,780 Since we are all at DEF CON, you all have already nailed this so well played, attending events and local meetups is a great way to meet new people and network. 203 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:35,700 The people I have met in Orlando through meetups and events have truly driven my career. 204 00:20:35,740 --> 00:20:45,800 I was able to learn all the skills I couldn't practice because either I personally did not have the tools or the content online didn't quite break things down well enough for me. 205 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:52,260 Just getting introduced to people that could help me understand things between the lines of textbooks was awesome. 206 00:20:52,260 --> 00:20:58,180 Huge shout out to the folks at CitrusSec in Orlando and DC407. 207 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:08,440 If you see your city on the list, then that means there is a chapter of the Open Organization of Lockpickers in your town. 208 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,860 I encourage you to reach out to your local tool group and meet some cool people. 209 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,620 If you don't see your city, good news! 210 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:20,960 You can now start a chapter in your town and find people that are into physical security. 211 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:28,320 The Open Organization of Lockpickers, or TOOL, has been amazing to me and I love being a member. 212 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:36,500 Second to last slide, I promise, but I want to say thanks to my family and friends. 213 00:21:36,540 --> 00:21:38,900 Mostly my wife and kids. 214 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:44,380 Thank you for understanding when I disappear into my lab for hours at a time for random projects. 215 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,740 Thanks Orlando hackers for just being total class acts. 216 00:21:48,740 --> 00:21:58,120 I want to thank TOOL for providing me an unbelievable networking opportunity and the ability to practice hands-on with locks and tools I would never have seen otherwise. 217 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:05,340 Thanks GoldSky Security for the opportunity to learn and grow in an incredible supportive environment. 218 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,620 DEF CON, thank you for having me. 219 00:22:07,620 --> 00:22:09,540 This event is so special. 220 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:15,000 And to the hacker community at large, keep being curious and keep pushing boundaries. 221 00:22:17,420 --> 00:22:23,060 I love helping people who are getting started or maybe who are stuck on something. 222 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,560 Feel free to reach out. 223 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,720 I might take a bit to respond, but I will do my level best to help. 224 00:22:29,020 --> 00:22:32,600 This was a lot of information in a short amount of time. 225 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:40,920 So if you want clarification on something, I am at 31337Magician on Twitter, and here is my LinkedIn if you prefer that channel. 226 00:22:41,020 --> 00:22:42,960 Thanks for listening to my talk. 227 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:50,380 That's all I have on this topic, but feel free to reach out if you want to have anything answered that you are still curious about. 228 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,460 Have an excellent day and enjoy DEF CON.