WEBVTT 00:01.090 --> 00:03.210 Hey everyone, thanks for joining. 00:03.210 --> 00:11.930 I'm the Greek, I'm the chapter lead for TOOL in Colorado Springs, Colorado, and this is my first DEF CON presentation. 00:11.930 --> 00:23.790 So, even though we're not doing this in the real, so to speak, I do know the tradition, so I'm going to carry it out. 00:36.530 --> 00:37.490 Opa! 00:43.230 --> 00:46.210 Shouldn't drink Lynn Leavitt like that. 00:50.730 --> 01:01.830 Anyone who's familiar with the Fallout franchise of games will know where the title for this talk comes from. 01:01.830 --> 01:04.890 Are bobby pins more effective than lockpicks? 01:04.890 --> 01:07.810 The answer is, you know, obviously no. 01:08.070 --> 01:11.370 But, what if you don't have lockpicks? 01:11.370 --> 01:13.970 Well, you planned poorly. 01:13.970 --> 01:15.810 You should have them with you. 01:15.810 --> 01:24.110 There's only a few states that having them on you is a crime in and of itself. 01:24.110 --> 01:37.470 Now, internationally, I'm not familiar with the laws, but obviously check your state and local authorities to make sure that it's legal for you to have them on your person in the state that you're in. 01:38.310 --> 01:44.670 Like I say, there are some states that they're not legal to have on you at all times. 01:44.670 --> 01:54.690 Virginia, Mississippi, Nevada, which is strange because that's where DEF CON's at all the time, and there's one more. 01:55.090 --> 01:59.010 Mississippi, Ohio, Nevada, and Virginia. 01:59.010 --> 02:04.210 They're considered prima facie evidence of the intent to commit a crime. 02:04.210 --> 02:06.590 So if you're in those locations, don't have them on you. 02:06.590 --> 02:12.490 So if you don't have them on you in those locations, what do you do if you need to pick a lock? 02:12.630 --> 02:14.650 Legally, of course. 02:28.480 --> 02:31.580 You do what we've always done. 02:31.580 --> 02:34.040 You make your own, right? 02:35.120 --> 02:38.740 You might have started with the paperclip. 02:38.920 --> 02:44.640 You might have actually tried the actual bobby pin. 02:47.460 --> 02:59.040 I don't recommend that you destroy your wife's or your significant other's underwire bra until you get permission to do it. 02:59.040 --> 03:00.580 Just ask permission. 03:01.400 --> 03:05.700 There's other things that you can use as well, like spark plug gappers. 03:05.700 --> 03:13.500 These work very well, but there's a lot of material there that you have to cut away if you want to make this into a usable lock pick. 03:13.500 --> 03:20.720 One of the things that I really like to use is street cleaner bristles. 03:20.720 --> 03:28.140 Street cleaner bristles, if you walk down the street, you can find them after the street cleaner's gone by. 03:28.140 --> 03:30.760 Or you can luck out, like I did. 03:30.960 --> 03:41.750 I was driving home one day, and I was in my truck, and I saw on the side of the road a broken street cleaner head. 03:41.750 --> 03:53.050 And so I stopped the pickup truck, and I got some street cleaner bristles now. 03:56.290 --> 04:06.610 One of the things that professional quality lock picks have over anything improvised is generally the handle. 04:06.950 --> 04:09.590 These are a HPC set here. 04:09.590 --> 04:13.230 These are out of the Tool Tremendous 12. 04:13.230 --> 04:17.690 They have a substantial handle to them, and it's easy to hold on to. 04:17.690 --> 04:20.830 It cuts down on fatigue while you're picking. 04:20.890 --> 04:30.030 And it just feels better in the hand than if you were to just have this and try to pick with that. 04:30.030 --> 04:33.510 So what I'm going to show today is how I improvise handles. 04:33.510 --> 04:36.310 You can do several different things. 04:36.310 --> 04:47.090 These are just swizzle sticks, some sort of a straw that I found to put over the outside of this homemade tension wrench. 04:47.090 --> 04:51.130 I did the same thing with this double-ended pick here. 04:51.130 --> 05:00.130 But these are all picks that I've made by hand using street cleaner bristles and a dremel tool. 05:00.270 --> 05:03.350 And so that's what we're going to go over here today. 05:04.310 --> 05:11.550 The basic idea is just to give some heft to the tool. 05:11.790 --> 05:15.630 Something to hold on to, something to give it some rigidity. 05:17.010 --> 05:20.930 There's multiple different things that you can get from hobby stores out there. 05:20.930 --> 05:24.750 This is a plastic that can be used. 05:24.750 --> 05:27.510 I tend to prefer brass. 05:27.510 --> 05:37.990 But there is also, let's see here, a couple of them that I've used an aluminum tubing on. 05:37.990 --> 05:42.250 And it all works basically exactly the same. 05:42.250 --> 05:55.830 Whether or not you're using a square stock like this, which gives you a little bit more of a feel that's similar to this type of pick. 05:55.830 --> 05:59.850 Or if you're using round stock. 06:00.070 --> 06:03.850 Again, I tend to prefer the round stock. 06:03.850 --> 06:06.490 Just maybe for aesthetics. 06:06.490 --> 06:08.050 I have no idea why. 06:10.130 --> 06:13.510 There is a benefit to using square stock. 06:13.510 --> 06:21.970 And that is that these flat picks and a square handle don't roll away. 06:24.690 --> 06:30.810 So the first thing to do is essentially figure out which one you want to duplicate. 06:31.470 --> 06:35.330 I like to mask things off and hold them in place. 06:35.390 --> 06:37.690 Get a good piece of stock. 06:37.690 --> 06:45.850 If it's rusty like this, I'll take a piece of, again this is improvised, right? 06:45.850 --> 06:48.970 This is actually wood sandpaper, but I'm going to use it. 07:09.730 --> 07:17.650 Okay, now that I have this relatively cleaned up, I'm going to take the pick that I want to duplicate. 07:17.650 --> 07:22.130 I'm going to do this one from the Tremendous 12. 07:24.810 --> 07:27.810 Man, I have the hardest time with that word. 07:32.670 --> 07:33.750 Sinusoidal. 07:35.370 --> 07:37.450 Yes, so sinusoidal. 07:39.770 --> 07:42.170 We're going to duplicate this one. 07:42.410 --> 07:58.650 What I like to do is match it up and then tape it in place with just some sort of tape to keep it in place while I trace onto it. 08:50.020 --> 08:52.820 So that's the basic gist of it right there. 08:52.820 --> 09:00.280 So now it's copied onto the stock and next I'll get out the Dremel tool and I'll cut it out. 11:44.590 --> 11:46.830 So anyway, it's not identical. 11:46.830 --> 11:57.470 I can take more off of the one that I'm fabricating, but at this point in time, it's close enough. 11:58.190 --> 12:05.930 Like I say, I can take more off as needed, but I also want to make sure I retain the strength of the pick. 12:08.250 --> 12:12.470 OK, now for the handle, I'm going to use brass. 12:12.470 --> 12:19.370 I want the overall length to be just about the same size as all of the standard picks. 12:19.370 --> 12:24.130 So I'll kind of measure it and put a mark on it. 12:34.680 --> 12:39.220 That will be the overall length of the pick approximately. 12:39.340 --> 12:44.280 And then as far as the handle goes, how much of that needs to be handle. 12:47.300 --> 12:49.380 Somewhere in there. 12:49.380 --> 12:51.300 It's not an exact science. 12:53.440 --> 13:05.090 We'll cut the pick off with the Dremel, but we'll use a tube cutter for the handle stock. 13:54.530 --> 13:57.050 I ended up making two. 13:57.350 --> 14:08.290 This one here with the round stock, and then I decided to make one with the square stock for the handle. 14:08.290 --> 14:15.190 Go over what I do to secure the pick within the handle. 14:15.190 --> 14:19.590 And that's essentially just some epoxy putty. 16:44.570 --> 16:47.830 I forgot I was working on cardboard here. 16:48.630 --> 16:50.910 JB Weld sets up pretty quick. 16:51.570 --> 16:56.590 Put as much in the handle as you can. 16:56.590 --> 17:01.610 Press it in there, and then press the pick in. 17:01.610 --> 17:04.230 This stuff, I can hardly work with it anymore. 17:04.230 --> 17:07.450 It's almost completely set up. 17:07.710 --> 17:13.610 But you still can do a little bit more. 17:22.420 --> 17:25.520 Oh man, it's not even sticky anymore. 17:25.520 --> 17:26.880 It's done. 17:27.240 --> 17:29.240 It is JB Welding. 17:40.570 --> 17:52.530 So one of the things about working with your own picks is you can make your own designs based off of some need that you might have with a specific lock. 17:53.150 --> 17:56.890 This pick is one that I use quite regularly. 17:57.230 --> 17:59.890 It seems to work fine. 17:59.890 --> 18:01.950 Here's the one that we just made. 18:02.290 --> 18:06.010 I'll probably clean this up over time. 18:06.010 --> 18:11.950 And tighten up the cuts on it a bit. 18:11.950 --> 18:15.310 Let's see how I like the square handle. 18:15.470 --> 18:16.710 It might be interesting. 18:17.670 --> 18:19.630 Here's the one with the round handle. 18:19.630 --> 18:23.390 Basically the same pick, but just with the round handle. 18:23.410 --> 18:26.130 I made that one today as well. 18:26.790 --> 18:34.910 This is a pretty standard cross section right here. 18:34.910 --> 18:36.990 This one I made quite a while ago. 18:36.990 --> 18:43.150 I actually even took solid brass stock and put it into the base. 18:43.150 --> 18:47.470 I think that's probably a little bit too much because they do break. 18:47.970 --> 18:53.910 But like I say, you can make the specific pick that you want. 18:53.910 --> 19:00.810 This one has a larger diameter barrel for the handle than the rest of them. 19:00.850 --> 19:02.710 Again, experimentation. 19:02.710 --> 19:11.650 This is just a very tiny hook pick for a very specific lock. 19:12.310 --> 19:14.190 Same with this here. 19:14.190 --> 19:16.650 This is a very tiny half diamond. 19:16.650 --> 19:19.490 Again, for a very specific lock. 19:28.420 --> 19:44.340 One thing that's important to note is that street cleaner bristles have a tendency to snap when you bend them into a tension wrench like this. 19:44.660 --> 19:45.800 This is similar. 19:45.800 --> 19:55.340 I put a handle on a tension wrench, but you'll notice that the bend is not super extreme. 19:55.340 --> 20:09.640 Like you might find on a mass produced handle like this where it's got a nice bend in there. 20:09.640 --> 20:12.960 You can get to that. 20:13.380 --> 20:17.640 I think it does make the metal a little bit more brittle. 20:17.640 --> 20:23.400 But you can make your tension wrenches out of the same material. 20:23.400 --> 20:26.360 You just have to be a little bit more careful when you bend. 20:26.520 --> 20:33.320 I think I showed... these are ones with a half bend in the middle. 20:33.320 --> 20:38.980 And this one in particular is tapered to where it will fit a smaller keyway. 20:38.980 --> 20:52.600 Again, the same thing that I talked about with regard to the specific picks that you can make that are specific to your lock. 20:52.600 --> 20:58.460 You can make a tension wrench that is specific to the lock that you're trying to pick. 21:00.160 --> 21:01.600 Let's see... 21:03.560 --> 21:06.940 So, to the question... 21:06.940 --> 21:21.480 Are bobby pins or improvised lock picks or homemade lock picks better than or as good as comparable to picks that you may buy? 21:21.480 --> 21:24.700 I think that it's very situational. 21:24.700 --> 21:35.280 The specific picks that I have made for specific locks were the only ones that I could get that would work for those locks. 21:35.280 --> 21:38.940 I had to make them and then they worked. 21:40.880 --> 21:49.640 The quality, I think, is better with the professional made picks, obviously. 21:50.300 --> 21:56.480 The reproduction is better with the professional made picks. 21:56.480 --> 22:10.880 But, I guess it's the trade-off between the purchasing of something and being able to make it on your own. 22:11.200 --> 22:18.080 For years, I didn't have access to picks or any place to get them at. 22:18.080 --> 22:31.820 So, I made them on my own and I think that's where the fulfillment, I guess, comes in with doing this yourself. 22:32.180 --> 22:35.020 Thank you for your attention to this. 22:35.020 --> 22:46.800 I would ask you, if you're interested in this, to please post some questions in the channel so we can answer them. 22:46.800 --> 22:52.920 We can talk about different materials, different ways of fabricating. 22:53.320 --> 22:57.640 We can poke fun at how bad I am with the Dremel tool. 22:59.380 --> 23:04.620 Also, if you're interested in this, look for a local tool chapter. 23:04.620 --> 23:15.020 Look for others that want to explore this lock sport with you and with us. 23:15.020 --> 23:17.340 Again, I appreciate your attention. 23:17.520 --> 23:18.720 Thank you very much. 23:18.720 --> 23:22.360 I hope you enjoy the rest of DEF CON SAFE MODE. 23:23.180 --> 23:24.620 This is The Greek. 23:28.460 --> 23:29.260 Yasu! 23:31.660 --> 23:33.600 I'm not going to drink it like I did the first time. 23:33.600 --> 23:34.460 This stuff is too good.