WEBVTT 00:01.210 --> 00:01.920 All right. 00:01.920 --> 00:03.460 Hey, everyone. 00:03.740 --> 00:05.160 Hope y'all are doing well. 00:05.160 --> 00:07.620 Hope everyone's staying safe out there. 00:08.960 --> 00:10.620 I'm nothing. 00:11.340 --> 00:14.400 Welcome to DEF CON safe mode. 00:14.920 --> 00:30.680 So this is basically going to be an introduction into the world of high security locks and kind of what they look like, what they are, how we go about picking them. 00:31.900 --> 00:37.700 So I'm going to kind of just show you a bunch of locks and tell you some different techniques. 00:37.700 --> 00:48.600 I'm not going to go into anything super deep, but hopefully it'll get some people out there interested in exploring and maybe even picking some of these things. 00:49.680 --> 01:06.300 So when you talk about a high security lock, we're mainly talking about a lock that has tried a little bit harder than your general typical pin tumbler, wafer, lever lock to keep people out. 01:06.980 --> 01:16.680 And that can be anything from pick resistance to physical attacks, though I'm not going to go into physical security a whole lot here. 01:16.700 --> 01:24.680 I'm mainly going to be talking about the locking mechanisms, but high security locks will generally be more physically resistant as well. 01:24.680 --> 01:36.740 They'll have more drill protection, better materials in the cases, and the pins will be made out of steel instead of brass a lot of times, things like that. 01:37.240 --> 01:48.160 So basically, high security locks are typically referred to as locks that have more than just one standard locking mechanism. 01:48.980 --> 02:00.220 Now this can be either by incorporating more than one locking mechanism, in terms of having two independent locking mechanisms in one lock. 02:00.260 --> 02:10.000 Also things like adding more pins to make it basically like you're picking two pin tumbler locks together, two or more. 02:10.220 --> 02:20.240 So there's a lot, there's a wide variety of things that make a lock high security, but typically these are also locks that have been rated by different industries. 02:20.680 --> 02:32.400 In America you have things like ANSI, BHMA, and UL, Underwriters Laboratories, who put these locks to the test and make sure that they are up to standard. 02:32.760 --> 02:43.560 Overseas you have things like the BSI, I think it's the British Standards Institute, and CEN that will rate these things in terms of their toughness. 02:43.920 --> 02:48.980 So I can't talk about high security locks without talking about Medeco. 02:48.980 --> 02:58.320 Medeco is kind of what I would consider the quintessential high security lock, and it is most people's entry point into high security locks. 02:58.500 --> 03:17.620 Now Medeco, when you look at the key, at first glance you might think it just looks like a regular key, regular pin tumbler lock, but if you look closer you can see that there's actually angles that those pin cuts, the bidding, is also angular. 03:17.620 --> 03:31.020 And that's because on a Medeco lock not only do the pins have to be raised to a certain height, but they also have to be rotated to a certain angle to allow a secondary locking mechanism, a sidebar, to drop into place. 03:32.640 --> 03:43.740 Now the pins, there's a few different types of Medecos, but the pins will generally look like this, which is, let's see, a bit different than you're used to. 03:43.860 --> 03:49.440 At first glance it'll look like a normal pin, but then you'll see that it has that little slice in the side of it. 03:49.880 --> 03:56.100 And what that is, is that's the track that allows the sidebar to fall into, and we call that a gate. 03:56.220 --> 04:03.260 Now some Medeco pins also have false gates, and let's see, I don't think this one does. 04:03.880 --> 04:05.040 Oh yep, sure does. 04:05.320 --> 04:07.260 Okay, so on this one the false gate is right here. 04:07.260 --> 04:08.400 It's very shallow. 04:08.800 --> 04:14.680 I don't know if you can see it, but it actually runs the full length of the pin, where in this one the true gate does not. 04:14.800 --> 04:20.320 And that actually prevents an attack by a tool called a Medecoder. 04:22.220 --> 04:24.840 So Medeco's got a few different types of locks. 04:24.840 --> 04:33.340 This is a Medeco Classic, and they will generally have the UL stamp on them, and not a whole lot more on the face. 04:33.340 --> 04:38.340 Sometimes you'll see a 51S, but they have pretty wide open keyways. 04:39.040 --> 04:44.060 There's not a whole lot to these things on the front. 04:45.160 --> 04:59.180 And then in the Medeco Classic, and also in the new ones, you have things like the large format interchangeable core, where this core can be removed, placed into another, or actually replaced or placed into another lock. 05:00.920 --> 05:07.880 And then you have the Medeco Biaxial, which is denoted by this little symbol right here. 05:08.500 --> 05:11.660 Looks like a couple little crescents there. 05:11.880 --> 05:15.620 And what that means is that the pins have been redesigned. 05:15.620 --> 05:23.060 So this is a Medeco Biaxial pin, and at first glance it looks a lot like the standard Medeco Classic pin. 05:23.180 --> 05:29.160 But if you look a little bit closer at the bottom there, you'll see that that point isn't directly in the center. 05:29.400 --> 05:37.860 So the chisel tip on this pin is slightly offset, which makes it what you call either a fore or an aft pin. 05:38.260 --> 05:45.200 And that means that the cut in the key could either be a little closer or a little further away. 05:45.320 --> 05:51.660 It makes picking these and decoding them a bit more difficult, and a lot more pins are involved in that process. 05:52.600 --> 05:59.080 And as you can see, this one even has a little ridge at the top there to make it so it gets stuck if you try to pick it. 06:00.740 --> 06:05.480 They also, in the top, will have these mushroom pins sometimes. 06:05.920 --> 06:08.280 Make it a little bit more difficult to pick. 06:11.240 --> 06:13.380 Now Medecos are all over the place. 06:14.020 --> 06:17.440 You'll see them in government installations. 06:17.860 --> 06:19.960 A lot of businesses use them. 06:20.040 --> 06:24.800 This is a four pin Medeco that actually goes to a payphone. 06:25.440 --> 06:30.900 And it looks a little bit different, but you can see that key still has those angular cuts on it. 06:32.180 --> 06:38.340 And this is a biaxial, and you can tell you see that that's the biaxial symbol right there. 06:41.140 --> 06:44.820 So they also come in padlocks, things like that. 06:44.820 --> 06:46.100 See them everywhere. 06:46.100 --> 06:47.280 They're really neat locks. 06:47.280 --> 06:49.480 It's definitely a fun one to get started. 06:50.040 --> 06:52.360 So they also make cam locks. 06:52.600 --> 07:04.180 Now when we're talking about high security cam locks, the security is definitely a little lower than your standard door locks, padlocks, things like that. 07:04.180 --> 07:08.740 Some of the padlocks actually have the cam lock style lock involved. 07:09.180 --> 07:15.340 And these do have to be lifted and rotated, but the cam locks do not have driver pins. 07:15.420 --> 07:20.240 So the way they accomplished that, and actually you can see this is a biaxial key. 07:20.260 --> 07:22.900 See these are close together and that one's far away. 07:23.220 --> 07:27.000 So that's the couple fours and an aft pin in there. 07:28.020 --> 07:34.520 So the cam locks work only by a sidebar, but the pins are a little bit different. 07:34.520 --> 07:43.940 So instead of having that slot all the way down the length of the pin, this pin here just has, if I can find it, there it is. 07:47.620 --> 07:48.980 Come back here. 07:48.980 --> 07:50.140 There we go. 07:50.140 --> 07:52.700 So it's just got a little hole in the side there. 07:53.280 --> 08:00.860 So that makes it so that you have to raise it up and rotate it to where a finger sticking out of the sidebar will poke into that little hole. 08:01.400 --> 08:04.780 Now there's a couple different styles of cam lock pins. 08:04.780 --> 08:11.640 You have one that's got that just that big serration around it and one like this that has two smaller serrations or three. 08:12.240 --> 08:15.920 And I can't tell you exactly where you'll find these in the specific locks. 08:15.920 --> 08:18.380 I just know that sometimes you find different ones. 08:20.800 --> 08:25.340 So Medeco and the cam locks, they have all sorts of format like this here. 08:25.540 --> 08:28.160 It is a T-handle plug lock. 08:28.160 --> 08:34.400 So this one will actually go into a hole that'll block a T -handle key from reaching in there. 08:36.000 --> 08:44.680 And then we also have the Medeco DuraCam, which is a dimple lock variant of that cam lock. 08:44.680 --> 08:45.880 Now this is the same thing. 08:45.880 --> 08:47.560 It's just turned on its side. 08:47.560 --> 08:52.700 The key is actually a lot stronger on these, a lot harder to break. 08:54.900 --> 09:02.380 So that Medeco design is awesome, but when you're talking about rotating pins, there's an even cooler lock out there. 09:02.760 --> 09:06.240 This is called the Corbin M-Heart. 09:06.640 --> 09:17.000 Now these guys got sued out of existence by Medeco because of the design and the similarities because these pins are rotated. 09:17.620 --> 09:20.560 You can see that in the key. 09:22.320 --> 09:26.440 Actually, it's kind of hard to see there, but trust me, they do rotate. 09:26.440 --> 09:34.700 And the reason these pins rotate is because unlike the Medeco, this doesn't have a sidebar, but these pins actually interlock with each other. 09:36.140 --> 09:39.440 So let me see if I can get this apart and I'll show you that. 09:45.580 --> 09:47.880 Oh, there goes the spring. 09:50.840 --> 09:52.600 All right, there's the spring. 09:53.740 --> 10:00.800 So now these pins, when they come out, are actually going to be stuck to each other. 10:06.920 --> 10:15.000 So they have a tongue and groove system where the key, or the pin on the top, it's kind of a dovetail. 10:15.080 --> 10:20.640 It has a little tongue sticking out and the pin, the key pin, has a groove that that fits in. 10:20.640 --> 10:26.640 And unless they're rotated to the proper position, they cannot separate and that lock will never open. 10:27.700 --> 10:30.340 I really wish these were still around, still being made. 10:30.340 --> 10:32.080 These are awesome locks. 10:33.020 --> 10:36.360 And there's a lot more information out there on them if you're interested. 10:48.440 --> 10:52.700 All right, so here, let's show this one real quick. 10:52.700 --> 10:56.780 This is another way of doing high security, a little different, just a little lower security. 10:56.780 --> 10:59.840 This is another one of those T-handle plug locks though. 11:00.740 --> 11:11.820 This is a van lock and this is basically just a tubular lock that has very difficult, it's very difficult to tension. 11:12.140 --> 11:17.620 The face is basically just flat and the key has these little pins that stick out of them. 11:17.960 --> 11:24.180 These aren't super high security and the plug is all brass, pins are steel, but the plug is all brass. 11:24.340 --> 11:28.660 So it makes drilling a little bit easier, but not super easy. 11:28.660 --> 11:32.800 These are usually used in like vending machines, anything that involves cash. 11:32.800 --> 11:36.700 They're not used as much as they used to, but they're still pretty cool. 11:36.700 --> 11:39.020 They're used in gas pumps, things like that. 11:43.230 --> 11:50.210 So another one of the big names in high security that you'll see is a company called Multilock. 11:50.210 --> 11:58.130 And Multilock is actually kind of a reinvention and a continuance of the Rav Barya company in Israel. 11:58.130 --> 12:00.850 Rav Barya meaning multi-bolt. 12:01.090 --> 12:10.970 But the Multilock, what they did is they took a standard pin tumbler lock and said, hey, let's put pins inside those pins. 12:11.150 --> 12:19.350 So if you look at this key here, you can see that each one of those pins, five pin, pin in pin, so it's 10 total. 12:19.390 --> 12:22.610 But if you look, you have an outer pin and an inner pin. 12:23.150 --> 12:34.730 So when picking this lock, you have to use a much smaller dimple flag, something that can get into those inner pins and pick them as well as setting the outer pins. 12:36.230 --> 12:41.010 And I've actually thinned out a pick. 12:41.010 --> 12:41.810 Let's see here. 12:41.810 --> 12:47.790 So this is one of the picks that I use when picking Multilocks or setting inner pins. 12:47.790 --> 12:53.350 I use a pretty wide variety of different picks for these things. 12:53.370 --> 13:03.710 And that's one thing about high security locks is you'll definitely get into making a lot of picks because you tend to not find all the tools that you need out there. 13:05.690 --> 13:16.190 But so this is a standard Multilock classic, which is just the standard pin in pin format where you have the five pin in pins. 13:16.810 --> 13:20.870 And if you're interested in these, they have been knocked off. 13:20.870 --> 13:23.150 A bunch of companies make cheaper ones. 13:23.150 --> 13:28.250 This is a company called Btech or Boldtech or I don't know the exact name. 13:28.530 --> 13:32.910 But this is a five pin, pin in pin, but there are no security pins, all standard. 13:32.910 --> 13:36.330 This is a very good entryway into picking Multilocks. 13:36.330 --> 13:38.590 And this was, I think it was like 15 bucks. 13:40.070 --> 13:42.870 But then Multilock wanted to innovate a bit further. 13:42.870 --> 13:51.830 The patent on the classic expired and to extend the patent, make it a little more difficult to copy the keys. 13:51.830 --> 13:55.410 What they did is involved what's called an interactive element. 13:55.410 --> 13:57.470 So this is the Multilock interactive. 13:58.610 --> 14:14.510 And this right here is a movable element in the key that when you insert the key in the lock, a portion or a little dimple in the bottom of the lock will actually lift that up and set the pin higher than the shear line. 14:15.370 --> 14:20.370 Now for key copying, that's very, it makes it a lot, very difficult, a lot more difficult. 14:20.490 --> 14:31.850 But for picking, it's actually makes it a little easier because you always know that that second pin is going to be set higher than the shear line or at the shear line, depending on the bidding. 14:32.710 --> 14:34.290 Got another classic here. 14:34.290 --> 14:41.830 And these tend to have some pretty extreme bidding sometimes as low as you can get followed by some as high as you can get in the back. 14:43.690 --> 14:49.430 But then Multilock does have an ultra high security variety that's called the MT5 Plus. 14:49.430 --> 14:54.630 They also have the MT5, which is like this except no slider track. 14:54.630 --> 15:04.770 But what this is, is this takes the five pin, pin in pin design, adds an interactive element as a sixth pin at the back here. 15:05.270 --> 15:17.170 And then it also has a slider track where five sliders need, they're unsprung, five unsprung sliders need to be moved into place to allow this lock to open. 15:18.270 --> 15:21.870 I'm actually looking at that, it looks like four, but I'm pretty sure it's five. 15:22.950 --> 15:31.530 So this is a very difficult lock to pick, something that maybe you will aspire to in the future. 15:36.150 --> 15:53.030 So other companies, like Sargent, decided to instead of doing multiple locking mechanisms in one, they said why don't we just add a bunch more pins into this lock and put three pin tumbler locks all around each other. 15:53.410 --> 16:07.270 So this lock here is a dimple lock, and it's actually got three rows of pins, two that come in at 90 degrees from the side here and one that comes in here directly at the top. 16:07.710 --> 16:13.790 So you can see that key has bidding on all three sides, and it's actually got it on all sides because it's a reversible key. 16:14.670 --> 16:24.350 This is called the Keyso, and these are incredibly difficult to pick, incredibly tight tolerances, very nice lock. 16:24.350 --> 16:30.850 This is, it looks like a strange format, this was actually their answer to interchangeable cores. 16:30.850 --> 16:33.570 I don't have one of the standard Keysos with me. 16:35.830 --> 16:39.170 So then this, this here is an actual Keyso. 16:39.170 --> 16:40.870 Keyso became a brand. 16:40.950 --> 16:45.870 I don't really know the history behind that, but if anyone feels like looking it up, they can. 16:46.070 --> 16:48.830 Keyso is part of the Assa Abla group. 16:48.830 --> 16:56.770 This is a 2000S, which means it has the Omega element, which is a different type of interactive element down here. 16:57.730 --> 17:07.310 So in addition to having bidding on all three sides of the key, this has a spring-loaded pin in the tip of the key. 17:07.310 --> 17:15.330 And what this does is it sets a pin inside the lock, but then when you turn the key, the pin actually pushes in here. 17:15.330 --> 17:25.670 And if you don't have that spring-loaded feature there, the lock won't open because that pin will get stuck on the side of the key, won't be able to move in, and it will prevent the lock from opening. 17:27.610 --> 17:34.890 Now these Keysos, the Keyso brand locks, are actually a little bit easier to pick than the Sargent Keysos I've found. 17:35.830 --> 17:38.310 Still not easy by any means though. 17:40.070 --> 17:44.490 So when you're talking about companies that put a lot of pins in things... 17:45.310 --> 17:48.510 um let's see here... so there we go. 17:49.610 --> 17:54.030 One of the companies that tends to come to mind is Kaba. 17:54.030 --> 17:57.090 Kaba is not part of the Assa Abloy group. 17:57.610 --> 18:04.950 Assa Abloy tends to own like most of the companies out there anymore, but Kaba is not part of that. 18:04.950 --> 18:13.050 This is what's called a Kaba 20, and this has the ability for 21 pins to be in this single lock here. 18:13.050 --> 18:20.510 This one I think has, let's see, 6, 6, and 4, so it would have 18... 16. 18:20.730 --> 18:22.850 So this one has 16 pins in it. 18:22.850 --> 18:26.770 Most of them have 18, 17, 16, something like that. 18:26.950 --> 18:31.610 Kaba tends to remove pins for master keying. 18:31.610 --> 18:32.670 It's interesting. 18:32.930 --> 18:36.470 But this lock here has four rows of pins. 18:36.470 --> 18:46.530 It has two rows coming in here at a 90 degree angle, and then two rows coming up at a diagonal at each side there. 18:46.630 --> 18:50.110 And those diagonal pins are actually very strange when you pick them. 18:50.110 --> 18:52.130 They feel kind of pillowy. 18:52.130 --> 18:55.850 It's an interesting feeling to pick them. 18:55.850 --> 18:57.530 You got to get used to it. 19:04.420 --> 19:15.220 So in terms of dimple locks, this is one that kind of took a... kind of made a lock all their own. 19:16.180 --> 19:24.420 It's called a Banham, and it's got two rows of pins, but there are no driver pins in this lock. 19:26.360 --> 19:32.700 And if you look at the key, this key actually has holes in it. 19:32.980 --> 19:42.460 And the reason for that is that the way this lock works is that the pins actually oppose each other. 19:42.460 --> 19:43.760 This is one of the cores. 19:45.260 --> 19:51.300 And you have a pin on this side and a pin on this side, and they touch each other. 19:51.820 --> 19:56.260 So when you move them this way, the pin on this side sticks out into the Bible. 19:56.640 --> 20:00.200 When you move them this way, the pin on this side sticks out into the Bible. 20:00.200 --> 20:14.440 So in picking this lock, basically what you have to do is get in there and move all the pins so that none of them are protruding out of the plug into the Bible, even though they're all touching inside, which makes it very difficult to get a pick in between them. 20:15.260 --> 20:22.820 You can kind of see there them sticking out into those chambers, and then when they all fall into the right spot, you can rotate the key. 20:23.720 --> 20:26.040 Now these are generally just found in England. 20:26.240 --> 20:32.060 You don't see them very much in the States, actually at all, unless it's a collector. 20:32.940 --> 20:35.860 But it's a very expensive lock. 20:36.280 --> 20:38.720 Very fun to pick, actually. 20:39.380 --> 20:43.040 But it's definitely something new to learn. 20:46.240 --> 20:50.400 So this here is another part of the Assa Abloy group. 20:50.400 --> 20:53.200 This is Zeiss Icon. 20:53.200 --> 20:55.140 This is a super cool lock. 20:55.200 --> 20:59.200 This is the WSW-W10. 20:59.840 --> 21:13.480 Now what these guys have done is kind of what a lock that I'm going to show you in a little bit also did, but they took sliders and integrated that in with a dimple lock. 21:13.640 --> 21:23.260 So on this lock here, you've got your six dimple pins that come in on the side of the key, but then you've also got your slider tracks on the side. 21:24.260 --> 21:35.740 So this lock has a total of 10 slider cuts on both sides, but there's actually only five to seven sliders in each of these. 21:37.840 --> 21:40.560 But let's see if we can get this open. 21:45.390 --> 21:46.870 This one's a little sticky. 21:46.870 --> 21:47.850 There we go. 21:58.430 --> 22:08.570 So you've got your dimple pins up there on top, and then you've got your sidebar here, and all your sliders there on the bottom. 22:09.010 --> 22:26.730 Now if you can see how that nub is only sticking out on that side, you could also have one that's on the other side, and that makes things like master keying a lot more approachable without having to add security vulnerabilities into the lock. 22:27.170 --> 22:34.950 So you can have multiple sliders that have different pegs on either side that allows you to use the same key. 22:35.910 --> 22:39.670 Now these sliders are incredibly difficult to pick. 22:40.450 --> 22:46.990 They have six false gates and one true gate, and those false gates are just absolutely tiny. 22:47.370 --> 22:55.670 So it makes determining between them... well, the true gate is also very tiny, so it makes deciphering which one you're picking very difficult. 22:58.150 --> 23:01.330 Let's get this guy back in his place here. 23:06.060 --> 23:07.320 There we go. 23:10.660 --> 23:13.580 And there are spool pins in the top of this. 23:15.140 --> 23:16.440 There we go. 23:17.800 --> 23:19.480 That sidebar doesn't like to go in. 23:19.480 --> 23:20.360 There we go. 23:21.940 --> 23:30.020 I think there are three spool pins generally up in the top of the bible, but the dimples are not the hard part to pick on this. 23:30.020 --> 23:32.540 The sidebar definitely is. 23:35.700 --> 23:44.960 Now in terms of sliders, the company that generally comes to mind is EVVA. 23:45.700 --> 23:48.900 They, again, are not a part of the Assa Abloy group. 23:50.200 --> 23:53.660 EVVA does incredible work with slider locks. 23:55.080 --> 23:57.660 They have a bunch of really neat ones out there. 23:57.660 --> 24:06.120 This one here is called the EVVA 3KS and this has 12 sliders in it. 24:08.880 --> 24:11.600 Each key has three tracks on the side. 24:11.900 --> 24:22.700 Those notches you see on the top are just a passive top bar for key control, but each of these sliders alternating inside has a different peg sticking out. 24:22.920 --> 24:31.720 Some just have a singular peg that goes into that deep track, and then others have parallel pegs that ride in those parallel tracks there. 24:32.020 --> 24:39.980 These are all unsprung sliders, which the key basically traps them, puts them in the right position, and allows the key to rotate. 24:40.160 --> 24:41.600 This is a strange format. 24:41.600 --> 24:43.320 It's a Japanese mortise cylinder. 24:44.860 --> 24:52.220 You can see here they have these little divots in the key, and what that's for is all high security locks have to be key retaining. 24:52.780 --> 25:04.820 So when you turn it, little pegs stick down into those divots and make it so that even in certain biddings that are kind of flat, the key cannot be retracted unless the lock is locked. 25:08.160 --> 25:21.980 Now what you see here is what's called a security card, and many high security locks will come with these cards that makes it so that you cannot get your key copied unless you have the proper security card. 25:23.920 --> 25:33.620 And this one I'm not really worried about because I'm not going to be using this so I can show you this, but if you take this card into a locksmith you can get the keys I just showed you reproduced. 25:37.860 --> 25:45.100 Sorry about huffing and puffing there, I'm kind of leaning over a desk here, but I'll have some whiskey and catch my breath real quick. 25:57.140 --> 26:03.720 Now this is not a super high security lock, but I wanted to show it anyway because it's really neat. 26:04.180 --> 26:06.960 It's got eight sliders in it, four on either side. 26:06.960 --> 26:15.100 Each one of them has a sidebar different on each side, and for some reason for the life of me I cannot get this thing open. 26:15.400 --> 26:17.860 And I swear it doesn't have false gates. 26:17.920 --> 26:23.620 I've only taken a couple of the sliders out, but I just get a really deep false set and it will not open up. 26:23.640 --> 26:32.300 I don't know why, but this is called a tray lock and I got this on ebay for I think 20 bucks or something like that. 26:32.360 --> 26:35.340 But great little lock, tons of fun to play with. 26:35.580 --> 26:42.840 If you're just getting started I wouldn't necessarily recommend going after this one, but if you do, more power to you. 26:47.180 --> 26:50.780 Now this is another pure slider lock. 26:50.780 --> 26:52.220 Let me see if I can find it here. 26:52.220 --> 26:53.180 There we go. 26:54.000 --> 26:56.960 Kind of like the EVA-3KS, it is springless. 26:56.960 --> 26:58.580 It doesn't have any springs in it. 26:58.580 --> 27:00.740 This is called the ASSA Desmo. 27:00.820 --> 27:03.620 This is obviously part of the ASSA ABLU group. 27:04.260 --> 27:29.880 Now what the Desmo is, is ASSA they make cam locks, they do padlocks, they have I think some oval cylinders, but this is meant for to basically to use where it's going to get a lot of use, maybe some dirt, not a lot of maintenance. 27:29.880 --> 27:32.760 It's supposed to be a very low maintenance lock. 27:32.900 --> 27:38.160 I found that a lot of these will actually jam up over time and makes it really hard to turn the key. 27:38.360 --> 27:47.300 I haven't figured out why, but I'm hoping they fixed it in the new Desmo Plus, but I'm not completely sure about that. 27:47.800 --> 27:50.980 Now this one here is an 8 slider Desmo. 27:51.300 --> 27:58.040 This has four sliders on either side that have a sidebar on both sides interacting. 27:58.140 --> 28:04.880 Each slider has two false gates and one true gate that are exactly the same width, just a different depth. 28:04.880 --> 28:07.820 Makes it a bit difficult to judge between them. 28:08.660 --> 28:12.260 These come in 6 and 8 slider variants. 28:13.280 --> 28:16.520 So we have a 6 slider Desmo here. 28:16.800 --> 28:22.260 This actually doesn't have anything in it, so I can just pop it apart and show you. 28:23.080 --> 28:30.840 Now these also, if you look at that key, you might notice that cutout, and that is your key retaining feature on these guys. 28:31.420 --> 28:45.340 So when you put the key in and turn it, a lot like the 3KS, this has little T-pins that push in and trap that key in there, so you can't remove it when the lock is open. 28:46.780 --> 28:50.060 So this is the Desmo's sidebar here. 28:50.980 --> 28:52.380 Let me get one out. 28:54.440 --> 29:02.920 So it's just got that little teeny shelf there that fits into the side of these pins. 29:08.060 --> 29:10.960 So that there is a Desmo pin. 29:12.360 --> 29:16.300 And you see it's got the two false gates and the one true gate. 29:16.880 --> 29:21.600 And that sidebar slides into that true gate and that allows it to retract. 29:25.140 --> 29:30.840 So these are the T-pins and springs that I talked about that actually go in and trap the key in place. 29:30.880 --> 29:34.080 So you can see a couple in there that the springs are wrapped around. 29:34.080 --> 29:38.260 The spring goes inside the T-pin and that's also what pushes the sidebar back. 29:38.720 --> 29:41.760 You can see that's where it goes right there in the sidebar channel. 29:51.100 --> 29:59.300 So ASSA, the Desmo, is kind of like the sidebar to the ASSA Twin. 30:00.660 --> 30:08.080 This was ASSA's, not their first step into high security, but definitely their first step into ultra high security. 30:09.840 --> 30:21.760 The ASSA Twin was, I think, the first patent, maybe not the first, but the first sidebar patent by Bo Wieden or Boveden, depending on where you are, how you pronounce things. 30:24.000 --> 30:32.300 He also, I think, is responsible for the patent on that WSWW-10 I showed you a few minutes ago. 30:34.340 --> 30:44.100 So the ASSA Twin, basically what they did here, is they took a standard pin tumbler lock and then put a slider lock on the side. 30:45.360 --> 30:57.920 Now this is kind of like, the pins are kind of like the Desmo, except without this part here, you just have that there, except it extends this way. 30:57.920 --> 31:05.160 So you have two false gates on either side of the true gate, and the bidding is actually on the sidebar itself. 31:05.380 --> 31:09.880 So the shelves in the sidebar will be at different heights depending on the bidding of the key. 31:11.820 --> 31:20.120 This one has the original gin bottle shaped spools, which is definitely one of, I would say, the hardest locks to pick I've ever encountered. 31:21.220 --> 31:25.740 This is an incredible lock and definitely something to aspire to. 31:27.800 --> 31:31.380 They also generally have pretty insane bidding also. 31:35.260 --> 31:38.220 So the ASSA Twin's been upgraded a few times. 31:38.220 --> 31:42.160 The patent expired and they put out different features. 31:42.160 --> 31:54.480 There's one called the V10 that has the same ideas as the WSW to where it'll have a peg on one side or the other, and you have 10 tracks that can raise them to different levels. 31:55.220 --> 32:03.080 And the last rendition is this here, well actually not the last, I think the DP is the last, but this is the ASSA Twin Combi. 32:03.680 --> 32:16.300 Now what this is is basically the same deal, except the sidebar pins, not only do they have to be lifted, or the finger pins on the sidebar, but they also have to be rotated to the correct position. 32:16.740 --> 32:22.520 So this lock is kind of like having a 6-pin ASSA with a Medeco on the side. 32:23.580 --> 32:27.160 These are incredibly difficult to pick. 32:27.160 --> 32:33.080 I've never actually gotten a Combi open yet, one of the few locks that I have that I've not been able to get open. 32:33.760 --> 32:35.360 These things are incredible. 32:35.360 --> 32:39.060 It's an amazing work of mechanics. 32:39.580 --> 32:43.700 I'm very impressed with the way they did this. 32:47.120 --> 32:51.540 This here is just a double Euro of the Combi. 32:52.260 --> 32:55.140 Another example of their incredible bidding. 32:56.080 --> 33:00.160 And you can see those sidebar are kind of sweeping. 33:00.520 --> 33:08.880 They're not directly up and down to set just vertical height, but they also kind of sweep to set those horizontally also. 33:11.120 --> 33:13.040 Rotationally I should say. 33:16.000 --> 33:22.020 Now while I'm showing ASSA, I guess I'll show this guy here. 33:22.020 --> 33:24.120 This has an ASSA core in it. 33:24.420 --> 33:26.640 This is what's called a mogul cylinder. 33:26.940 --> 33:28.720 These are used in prisons. 33:30.040 --> 33:38.680 As you can see, it is much bigger than your standard mortar cylinder, and obviously that'll make it a lot tougher. 33:38.860 --> 33:41.040 These are made of, I think, case-hardened steel. 33:41.040 --> 33:42.520 Might be full-hardened steel. 33:42.520 --> 33:44.780 I'm not completely sure about that. 33:44.780 --> 33:50.100 But this is actually replacing another lock that was basically just a beefed-up mortar cylinder. 33:50.100 --> 33:56.080 This big, but just five standard pins and some couple spools, things like that. 33:56.140 --> 33:58.480 But this incorporates that ASSA twin. 33:58.480 --> 34:00.340 It's the ASSA twin 6000. 34:00.640 --> 34:03.620 This is the 851 keyway. 34:04.380 --> 34:11.020 But it puts the ASSA twin 6000 into that gigantic form factor for prisons. 34:12.620 --> 34:17.600 And while I'm showing you that, prisons also use lever locks. 34:17.820 --> 34:21.260 This is a lever lock key from a prison. 34:22.180 --> 34:29.460 I don't have a lock to show you, unfortunately, but I don't know why, but everything in a prison is bigger. 34:29.540 --> 34:30.820 Well, I do know why. 34:30.820 --> 34:34.480 It's to make them a lot tougher, but I think these are pretty cool. 34:34.480 --> 34:36.220 I'd like to get one of these soon. 34:39.340 --> 34:48.100 So, I guess Schlage wanted to be part of the party with the ASSA twin, so they went ahead and created the Primus. 34:49.040 --> 34:56.660 Now, this is not nearly as difficult to pick as the ASSA twin line, but it's the same concept. 34:57.460 --> 35:03.660 So, you have basically a Schlage lock with a Medeco on the side. 35:03.900 --> 35:05.680 Same deal as the Combi. 35:06.220 --> 35:12.640 Where you have those sweeping sidebar fingers that need to be lifted and rotated to the same height. 35:12.640 --> 35:14.760 Or not to the same height, to different heights, I'm sorry. 35:16.760 --> 35:21.540 But this is Schlage's entry into the high security game. 35:22.600 --> 35:24.100 These are incredibly neat. 35:24.100 --> 35:25.380 I actually had to make a pick. 35:25.380 --> 35:27.840 And actually, while I'm at it, let me show you these real quick. 35:33.950 --> 35:37.390 So, this is my ASSA twin Combi pick. 35:37.590 --> 35:39.070 One of the ones I use. 35:39.310 --> 35:41.030 I don't know if you can see that. 35:43.990 --> 35:47.590 So, you can see that little U-shape in there. 35:47.630 --> 35:52.630 And that's to actually hook into and lift up those finger pins and also be able to rotate them. 35:53.050 --> 35:58.350 So, I think this is the one I used for the Primus. 35:58.350 --> 35:59.070 Oh, no. 35:59.070 --> 36:02.990 Actually, it was this one. 36:02.990 --> 36:03.970 I'm sorry. 36:03.970 --> 36:06.230 Goes the other direction. 36:07.330 --> 36:15.130 But if you get into high security locks, you'll definitely end up making a lot of your own tools, like I said earlier. 36:15.950 --> 36:20.790 But this here is my Primus pick for the sidebar pins. 36:30.950 --> 36:32.210 All right. 36:32.210 --> 36:34.330 Oh, I didn't show this earlier. 36:34.330 --> 36:42.570 So, another lock that decided to take high pin counts and take it to the extreme. 36:42.570 --> 36:45.310 This is the Maurer Crypto. 36:45.890 --> 36:55.490 Looks a little weird because I happened to brick it while I was trying to take it apart at one point, but I will fix that eventually. 36:56.090 --> 37:01.070 This actually has 18 standard pins, or 18 pins. 37:01.070 --> 37:03.270 It's got 6 on the side. 37:03.990 --> 37:04.590 6. 37:04.590 --> 37:05.730 So, here. 37:06.050 --> 37:13.870 We got 6 coming down from here, 6 coming up from here, and then another 6 going in this way at the corner. 37:14.390 --> 37:18.230 These pins are very tightly packed in there. 37:18.230 --> 37:25.170 It's really hard to get in there with any tool to pick them individually without oversetting others. 37:25.750 --> 37:31.390 This is a super neat lock, but another incredibly difficult one. 37:33.270 --> 37:36.810 But that's more in tune with the Cabas, things like that. 37:39.610 --> 37:48.010 So, the Australians, when they got into high security, they decided to create this guy here. 37:48.450 --> 37:49.990 It's called the Bi-Lock. 37:50.370 --> 37:56.230 So, instead of saying, let's just take one key and put a bunch of pins on it, they said, hey, let's put two locks side by side. 37:56.810 --> 38:01.070 So, you can see this looks like literally two keys just glued together. 38:02.890 --> 38:05.290 There's different bidding on either side. 38:06.070 --> 38:08.470 And this is not a standard pin tumbler, both. 38:08.470 --> 38:20.230 What this is, is it's more like that Medeco cam lock, to where you have 12 pins, and they're lifted, but there's things in there that prevent them from rotating. 38:20.230 --> 38:29.250 But they do have a hole in the side, and that side bar, or both the side bars, have little fingers that stick out and stick into the holes in the side of those pins. 38:30.190 --> 38:37.050 They will have false gates, false notches, false whatever you want to call it, and true. 38:38.290 --> 38:40.370 Doesn't like to... I'll fix that. 38:40.370 --> 38:52.470 But basically, it is two Medeco locks side by side, without the rotation. 38:57.220 --> 39:01.460 And, oh, I guess... I forgot 39:08.590 --> 39:11.190 that I can just take this guy apart for you. 39:13.090 --> 39:14.550 There we go. 39:17.430 --> 39:23.210 So, there are our side bars, and that is kind of what the pins look like there. 39:23.370 --> 39:28.470 They have that point, but unlike the Medeco, these aren't angled. 39:33.410 --> 39:39.910 And let's go ahead and see if I can pop one of these side bars out. 39:39.910 --> 39:40.890 There we go. 39:41.570 --> 39:47.830 So the side bar's got those fingers that stick out of it, which sticks into the holes in the sides of the pins. 39:52.170 --> 39:54.010 Definitely a neat idea. 40:00.080 --> 40:02.780 All right, let's get this guy back together there. 40:07.720 --> 40:08.640 Oh, that's right. 40:08.640 --> 40:16.880 Another thing I wanted to mention about this, since it's not a standard pin tumbler, by-locks don't have to worry about max. 40:16.880 --> 40:28.380 So, you can see here, this goes from the lowest possible to the highest possible, to the lowest possible, to the highest possible, lowest possible, highest possible. 40:28.380 --> 40:33.740 So, there's no maximum adjacent cut specification for these. 40:33.920 --> 40:39.640 So, trying to get your pick under that lowest possible to pick that highest is incredibly difficult. 40:44.070 --> 40:52.870 There are a couple other high security cam locks that I don't consider very high security, but they're still kind of neat, and kind of an entry level into high security. 40:52.990 --> 40:55.610 This guy here is called a bell lock. 40:55.770 --> 40:58.510 This is actually what they use in parking meters. 40:59.470 --> 41:01.990 I can pop this apart for you real quick. 41:04.690 --> 41:16.070 So, this guy basically is like a split wafer lock, where you have half wafers that pick up and down in different directions, and they basically fit into these channels here. 41:16.070 --> 41:18.050 But this is more like a wafer lock. 41:20.130 --> 41:24.910 Not very easy to pick, but not incredibly hard either. 41:25.750 --> 41:28.070 Definitely a fun one to get started. 41:28.570 --> 41:34.510 And then another high security wafer lock here, this is called the Chicago Duo. 41:35.970 --> 41:47.330 So, what they did here is they took your standard wafer lock that has cutting on the top and the bottom, and they added a side track here that sets four more wafers. 41:47.330 --> 41:50.870 So, this thing I think has like 14 wafers in it. 41:51.050 --> 41:51.890 Maybe a couple more. 41:51.890 --> 41:53.230 I think it's 14. 41:53.770 --> 41:55.770 It's also got profile wafers. 41:55.770 --> 41:57.050 There's a lot going on in there. 41:57.050 --> 42:01.770 It's pretty difficult to figure out where you're at, but not the hardest thing in the world. 42:02.010 --> 42:03.450 Pretty neat lock though. 42:07.070 --> 42:11.490 Alright, so this guy here, another high security lock. 42:11.850 --> 42:17.670 This is not very high security in terms of picking, although it's not easy to pick. 42:18.110 --> 42:27.930 It only has three rotating discs inside of it, but this is definitely made to withstand the elements and be incredibly beefy. 42:29.050 --> 42:32.690 This is called the Sergeant & Greenleaf Environmental Padlock. 42:32.930 --> 42:42.810 So, it was originally designed for the railroads, who had problems with their locks freezing up and seizing because of dirt and grime, and also had a lot of vandalism. 42:43.650 --> 42:48.390 So, they reached out to the Sergeant & Greenleaf Company, who designed this lock for them. 42:49.550 --> 42:50.950 And these are pretty cool. 42:50.950 --> 42:55.370 They're kind of antique, so if you find one, I'd suggest holding on to it. 42:55.370 --> 42:57.550 If you can get one with a key, that's even better. 42:57.550 --> 43:04.230 But the military also used these for some of their warehouses and other things like that. 43:04.970 --> 43:14.090 Now, in terms of disc detainer locks, Abloy is definitely going to be your quintessential high security disc detainer lock. 43:14.890 --> 43:16.690 And I'll show you those in a second. 43:16.690 --> 43:18.930 But you've got a couple other contenders here. 43:18.990 --> 43:25.330 This is a company called Takigen, and I'll be showing you another one of their locks in a few minutes. 43:25.330 --> 43:32.090 Um, it's a company out of Japan that makes manufacturing parts, industrial parts, all sorts of stuff. 43:32.110 --> 43:34.090 This is their disc detainer lock. 43:34.090 --> 43:39.190 This is their actually lower security variety, but they have higher security ones. 43:39.190 --> 43:42.950 But this is not going to look like your standard disc detainer key. 43:43.210 --> 43:50.790 And that thin curved keyway makes it so that all of your standard store-buyable disc detainer locks don't fit. 43:50.790 --> 43:52.430 You gotta make your own. 43:53.150 --> 43:59.370 And disc detainer locks is definitely going to be where you're making your own tools more than anything else. 43:59.990 --> 44:03.090 I've had to make all of those to pick different locks. 44:03.090 --> 44:05.670 Each one of them was designed for a specific lock. 44:05.670 --> 44:07.310 This one was for the Takigen. 44:08.110 --> 44:16.510 This is actually for an Anchor Lass, which is this guy right here. 44:18.610 --> 44:21.870 This is your security card for the Anchor Lass. 44:23.030 --> 44:28.570 And this is one of the very few disc detainer locks you'll find that only has bidding on one side of the key. 44:29.170 --> 44:32.590 And you have to put this key in a very specific way. 44:32.590 --> 44:34.190 It'll only go in one way. 44:34.630 --> 44:39.090 And then you rotate all those discs to the right spot and it'll open right up. 44:44.650 --> 44:52.550 But, like I mentioned before, the quintessential high security disc detainer lock is going to be your Abloy. 44:53.430 --> 44:55.630 This is the Abloy Classic. 44:56.250 --> 45:01.770 It's got a half moon looking key that again has bidding only on one side of the key. 45:02.170 --> 45:06.330 Which means the key can only go in one way but it's obvious by the half moon there. 45:07.650 --> 45:16.450 And same deal, when you rotate the key it's got to rotate a full 90 degrees to set all the discs into place and then rotate the rest of the way. 45:17.210 --> 45:19.490 Now this is the Abloy Classic. 45:19.490 --> 45:22.110 Basically their lowest security lock. 45:22.270 --> 45:24.230 They've got a ton of other ones. 45:24.930 --> 45:39.870 This is the Disc Lock Pro which has bidding on both sides of the key which allows you to actually turn this either way and it's got a few other features in there that allow that to happen. 45:40.250 --> 45:45.350 Most of them will just be reversible so you can open it by putting it in either way. 45:46.190 --> 45:48.690 But this also has a disc locking system. 45:48.790 --> 45:59.010 The little ball there is actually a ball bearing or little divot there is a ball bearing inside of there that will not allow any of these discs to turn until that ball bearing has been depressed. 45:59.990 --> 46:08.550 That is an anti-pick feature and also it makes it so that you can't damage it by rotating some discs out of order and things like that. 46:09.110 --> 46:21.370 Abloy has even higher security varieties like the Pro-Tech 1, Pro-Tech 2, things like that but I don't have examples of those unfortunately. 46:24.250 --> 46:31.230 All right so this is the other Takigen lock that I wanted to show you. 46:31.230 --> 46:41.270 Next couple locks I'm going to show are Japanese high security locks and the Japanese kind of tend to go all out on their high security locks. 46:41.270 --> 46:46.530 They go pretty crazy and they're really cool locks generally. 46:46.950 --> 46:50.550 So this is... I don't know the name of this to be honest. 46:50.550 --> 46:54.010 It comes out of a piece of equipment that I work on. 46:54.570 --> 47:06.790 It is a parking in-lane pay station so this basically protects cash and credit card data and things like that. 47:07.470 --> 47:11.730 But this kind takes high security to another level. 47:11.890 --> 47:18.630 This thing is both high security in that it is very hard to pick. 47:18.630 --> 47:20.290 I think this is an 11 pin. 47:20.290 --> 47:25.470 Yeah, it's an 11 pin lock where you can see in there. 47:25.470 --> 47:30.510 Yeah, so there are five or six. 47:30.510 --> 47:42.030 I think it's five pins coming in from the left side and then another six coming in from the top right at a 45 degree angle and they kind of intersect like this. 47:42.030 --> 47:48.510 So it's incredibly difficult to get in there and pick pins without oversetting other ones. 47:48.510 --> 47:52.090 Not only that, but you have to get tools in here. 47:52.090 --> 47:55.250 And as I'll demonstrate with these tweezers, it's a little big. 47:56.550 --> 47:59.790 Actually I can do it a little better with a pick. 47:59.950 --> 48:05.370 So trying to get a pick in there to actually pick this thing, you have to make specialty tools to get in there. 48:06.090 --> 48:11.050 But not only is it difficult to pick, but it's also very physically secure. 48:12.050 --> 48:16.590 This thing is made out of some pretty hefty materials. 48:17.690 --> 48:25.390 Let's see, so it's got this gigantic cam on the back. 48:27.030 --> 48:31.670 And not only do you have to defeat one, but you actually have to defeat two of these. 48:32.490 --> 48:35.550 So you got one on the top and one on the bottom. 48:36.430 --> 48:39.610 But this is actually one of my favorite locks in my collection. 48:39.610 --> 48:40.910 I love this thing. 48:41.290 --> 48:43.110 It's a hell of a challenge. 48:44.830 --> 48:49.910 All right, so another Japanese high security lock company is Miwa. 48:49.930 --> 48:52.350 And Miwa makes some really awesome locks. 48:52.350 --> 48:55.910 One thing I haven't talked about yet is magnetic locks. 48:56.070 --> 49:03.630 So this is a Miwa magnetic lock that actually goes to the Sega arcade cabinets, the old Sega arcade cabinets. 49:03.630 --> 49:05.490 They call them a candy cabinet. 49:06.210 --> 49:20.930 And this is actually a kind of a dumbed down version of the Miwa 3800, which has dimple pins up top and then four magnetic sliders internally. 49:21.010 --> 49:27.750 This one only has three magnetic sliders, two that come from the left and one that comes from the right. 49:27.990 --> 49:31.810 And they're stepped, so you have to pick each one of them a couple times. 49:32.310 --> 49:34.330 Definitely not an easy task. 49:34.330 --> 49:38.190 You need a magnetic pick and basically you pick this thing by sound. 49:38.730 --> 49:41.730 So you gotta listen to what pins are binding, which ones are not. 49:41.730 --> 49:46.170 You attack the one that's binding and make it jiggle. 49:46.810 --> 49:51.470 And that's actually how you pick most of these locks is by doing what's called the jiggle test. 49:52.970 --> 49:56.490 Actually, let me show you here with this Desmo sidebar. 49:57.070 --> 50:04.230 So when picking a lot of these locks, if they have multiple locking mechanisms in them, you can usually isolate. 50:04.650 --> 50:11.770 So with the Medeco, and Medeco is one of the few ones that you can actually choose what binds first. 50:11.930 --> 50:18.090 With the Medeco, you tension it clockwise, the driver pins will bind first. 50:18.090 --> 50:22.290 And if you tension it counterclockwise, the sidebar will bind first. 50:22.410 --> 50:28.530 So you tension it clockwise, pick all the top pins to shear, and then the sidebar will engage. 50:28.530 --> 50:31.110 And then you worry about rotation of the pins. 50:31.650 --> 50:39.490 And whenever you're dealing with a sidebar with gates, something that doesn't involve driver pins, you're going to do what's called the jiggle test. 50:39.710 --> 50:48.370 So you're going to go through the lock and set these to either a false gate or a true gate. 50:48.490 --> 50:52.710 And then you're going to tap each one with your pick and see if it jiggles. 50:52.870 --> 50:58.970 Because if you see, there's barely any room, but there's just enough room for this thing to move around a little bit. 50:59.330 --> 51:02.990 So when you tap it with your pick, you'll actually feel it jiggle. 51:03.350 --> 51:11.930 So when you're binding in a false gate, eventually that will stop any rotation or any jiggle because you're putting pressure on it. 51:11.930 --> 51:15.430 But when you get to the true gate, it will always jiggle in the true gate. 51:15.910 --> 51:20.570 So that's actually how we pick the majority of these locks is by what's called the jiggle test. 51:21.930 --> 51:24.890 So let me show you here another lock from Miwa. 51:24.930 --> 51:27.030 This is a really cool lock. 51:27.330 --> 51:29.810 This is the Miwa PR. 51:30.610 --> 51:35.350 And this is actually rotating wafers in there. 51:35.350 --> 51:38.030 Looks like a regular dimple lock, but it's not. 51:38.230 --> 51:45.030 There are wafers that are pivoted on a shared hinge on the top. 51:45.110 --> 51:51.170 And they're like crescent shaped and they pivot in the sidebar and the gates are in the bottom. 51:51.570 --> 51:57.130 So the sidebar pushes in, it pivots till it hits the right gate and the sidebar drops in. 51:57.790 --> 52:02.630 Now these have 10 and 11 wafers, depending on if they're master keyed or not. 52:03.170 --> 52:12.930 And they also have false gates and serrations on those wafers that make them, it just gives you a lot of different feedback in there. 52:12.930 --> 52:18.750 So trying to find yourself into a true gate, not the easiest thing in the world, but it's definitely doable. 52:18.830 --> 52:22.970 Also that keyway definitely restricts your movement in there. 52:23.610 --> 52:31.590 So you got to find a pick that pretty perfectly fits under certain, under the wafers without over setting them. 52:31.590 --> 52:38.590 Because if you look right here, see there's three dimples right here, but there's actually four wafers right there. 52:38.590 --> 52:41.950 So that spot there is a max lift wafer. 52:42.370 --> 52:44.890 So that's got to go all the way to the top. 52:44.890 --> 52:50.030 And then this one here is almost a zero lift wafer. 52:50.130 --> 52:55.430 So you got to get underneath that one and set that one as high as it can possibly go. 52:55.730 --> 53:00.650 So there's a lot of difficult navigation you got to do in this thing. 53:00.810 --> 53:03.350 Makes picking these very interesting. 53:03.390 --> 53:05.290 But they're tons of fun. 53:05.290 --> 53:09.890 Miwa makes actually a few locks on this rotating wafer design. 53:09.890 --> 53:14.330 The U9 is one that the key looks different. 53:14.330 --> 53:17.710 It actually looks more like an Ingersoll key where it doesn't have dimples. 53:17.710 --> 53:20.510 It's actually got cuts on the key on both sides. 53:22.030 --> 53:28.150 But yeah, so the Japanese make some crazy, crazy high security locks. 53:32.820 --> 53:36.200 So now you can have high security lever locks as well. 53:36.360 --> 53:46.340 And in safe deposit boxes, instead of saying hey let's put two locks into one, they literally said hey let's take two locks and put them into one. 53:46.560 --> 53:49.720 So this here is a Sargent and Greenleaf version. 53:49.720 --> 53:51.420 This is the 4440. 53:53.640 --> 53:57.420 This is a Sargent and Greenleaf safe deposit lock. 53:57.420 --> 54:03.700 This here is the Mauer Mosler 5700 safe deposit box lock. 54:04.040 --> 54:11.500 Now this is what's called a dual custody lock where two people will need to have a key. 54:11.500 --> 54:15.180 And this is what's called the guard key and this is the user key. 54:15.600 --> 54:20.860 So you have to insert the guard key first to activate the user key. 54:22.340 --> 54:26.240 And this one actually doesn't turn all the way until I turn the guard key a little more. 54:26.240 --> 54:27.140 There we go. 54:28.040 --> 54:44.440 So basically what this allows the bank to do is when you come in, they'll put in their guard key, turn it, you then put in your user key, turn it, they can then remove their guard key and leave you to do your thing. 54:44.540 --> 54:49.680 And then when you're ready to go you re-lock it with your user key and get out of there. 54:53.120 --> 54:55.120 So those are just standard lever locks. 54:55.120 --> 54:57.980 They generally have false gates but some of them don't. 54:58.580 --> 55:05.460 Actually I think that Mosler has serrations that the the fence and the gate fit into. 55:05.460 --> 55:12.680 So you'll have a serrated fence and it'll lock into serrations when you try to move it into place. 55:13.700 --> 55:19.760 So other high security lever locks that I'm a little bit more familiar with are here. 55:19.760 --> 55:21.980 These are payphone locks. 55:22.720 --> 55:28.620 So this here is the Western Electric 29A. 55:28.820 --> 55:31.440 This is a five lever lock 55:34.620 --> 55:37.960 that protects the electronics portion of the payphone. 55:38.640 --> 55:50.920 And you see that split in the key there and what that is is a blocking plate that sits in between the three levers in the back and the two in the front which makes it very difficult to get to those back levers. 55:51.100 --> 55:58.040 Not the hardest thing to pick but you definitely got to get used to it and get your technique down to get that open. 55:59.540 --> 56:02.580 This here is Northern Electric. 56:02.580 --> 56:03.980 It's a Canadian company. 56:04.520 --> 56:38.680 The coin vault lock for theirs which is actually a pretty similar to the 29 where it's got a divider in there but this one the actuator is separated from the plug so when you turn the plug the actuator doesn't turn until the plug is about here and then by the time you get a pick in there you get stuck because I'll do another video on this in the future but it's very difficult to Now this is one of my favorite locks in the world, 56:38.680 --> 56:45.660 and one of the reasons for that is because I am the only person in history to pick this lock on video. 56:45.660 --> 56:49.780 Or actually to pick this lock in any sort of documented fashion. 56:51.020 --> 56:58.620 I'm going to be doing a video on this lock only, also for DEF CON, which will air tomorrow. 56:58.620 --> 57:05.140 Tomorrow night at I think 6, I'm sorry if I get that wrong, but I think it's 6 o'clock tomorrow night. 57:06.960 --> 57:09.840 And this is the Western Electric 30C. 57:10.040 --> 57:15.820 So this lock, until I picked it, was considered unpickable, and unpicked. 57:16.460 --> 57:36.900 Basically, what this lock has is, not only does it have 8 levers, all with false gates, but it also has a blocker mechanism, that when you turn the key to this point, that blocker mechanism moves in and locks all the levers in place before the fence ever gets to the gates. 57:37.320 --> 57:47.540 So when trying to pick locks, generally what you do is put tension on them, which will bind something up, so then you can then move them and find where they need to be. 57:47.700 --> 57:52.600 But this one, before anything binds, they're all locked into place. 57:52.600 --> 57:56.900 So I had to figure out a very special way of picking this. 57:57.720 --> 58:06.640 And I did, and actually you'll probably be underwhelmed when you figure out what I did, but if you feel like checking it out, it'll be on tomorrow. 58:07.040 --> 58:09.860 But yeah, so that's about it. 58:10.900 --> 58:14.720 High security locks are kind of my passion, if you couldn't tell. 58:15.100 --> 58:16.580 I love everything about them. 58:16.580 --> 58:18.480 I do have a YouTube channel. 58:18.480 --> 58:21.160 It is very difficult to find. 58:21.160 --> 58:22.820 It is just a nothing symbol. 58:23.540 --> 58:29.720 But if you look on YouTube and search Western Electric 30C, you will find it. 58:30.300 --> 58:37.320 If you want to look at any of these any closer, I have most of the locks I showed you today on that channel. 58:38.120 --> 58:42.220 And picking them, taking them apart, talking about them, things like that. 58:43.460 --> 58:46.000 Anyway, I hope you all enjoyed that. 58:46.700 --> 58:50.800 Sorry if it was a bit rusty and rough at first, but it is what it is. 58:50.820 --> 58:52.380 I appreciate you all. 58:52.380 --> 58:52.980 Take care. 58:52.980 --> 58:54.080 Stay safe. 58:54.160 --> 58:55.500 Thank you very much.