[00:00.000 --> 00:04.820] All right, super. Thank you very much, Justin. And welcome to day three of Monero Village. [00:06.260 --> 00:12.640] And let's see, let me... all out today with the fanciness of the video setup here, if [00:12.640 --> 00:18.600] you can tell. Let me... and we hope it works out. So part of this pandemic stuff is that [00:19.160 --> 00:25.040] we're all individuals trying to put together something that looks sophisticated from a [00:25.040 --> 00:31.980] video production standpoint. All right, so here we go to the talk. And I'm going to take [00:31.980 --> 00:41.840] these because I'll put them back on for the... and I'll be talking about Monero and try to [00:41.840 --> 00:51.280] make the case that is sound money safe mode. So about myself, I am trained as a physicist. [00:51.280 --> 00:57.060] So I did experimental particle physics at Harvard. I spent 10 years there, including [00:57.060 --> 01:02.340] the undergrad. And from that, I got a sense of always wanting to look at data. So I will [01:02.340 --> 01:09.560] be showing a fair amount of empirical data, both financial, economic, and blockchain data. [01:10.660 --> 01:15.660] Most of my career was spent in the nonprofit sector. So I was a symphony orchestra musician. [01:15.660 --> 01:19.540] That was my job out of grad school. So I ended up doing over 700 concerts professionally [01:19.540 --> 01:23.500] as a violinist and then an artist. And then concurrently with that, I became a medical [01:23.500 --> 01:29.060] school professor doing radiation oncology physics. So about a couple thousand cancer [01:29.060 --> 01:37.100] patients fight their against cancer using a focused high dose radiation. After that, [01:37.100 --> 01:42.060] I want to kind of branch out a bit. So I ended up signing up for the executive program at Yale. [01:42.320 --> 01:48.740] And at that point, I got used to the for-profit world. And I made a transition at that point, [01:48.740 --> 01:53.480] joined a hedge fund, managed about a billion dollars in assets in equities. I became a [01:54.560 --> 01:59.640] research and as part of that, published a paper on the role of liquidity in the pricing, [01:59.640 --> 02:04.380] which won a paper of the year award from the CFA Institute, which is a kind of premier [02:04.980 --> 02:11.540] credentialing authority for equity analysts. After that, I do blockchain kind of just as [02:11.540 --> 02:17.380] a hobby initially, but then I did that. There were only a few things in life and, you know, [02:17.380 --> 02:22.560] as fundamental innovations. I was in grad school when the dot-com bubble happened and that kind [02:22.560 --> 02:28.760] of revolutionized life. And when blockchain came around, after initially being rather skeptical [02:28.760 --> 02:34.500] about it, I came to the conclusion that a genuine kernel of innovation in the Satoshi white paper. [02:34.720 --> 02:40.560] And so I am often my own as a solo independent consultant. I seek to bridge two very separate [02:40.560 --> 02:46.160] worlds that often never talk to each other and kind of have oftentimes nothing but the [02:46.160 --> 02:50.820] negative stereotypes about the other side. But I think there's value to be had from both sides [02:50.820 --> 02:55.140] to have genuine engage with the other. So the two sides I'm talking about are shown in the bottom [02:55.140 --> 03:00.340] here. There's a DEF CON world. So that's non-commercial, open source, cypherpunk, [03:00.340 --> 03:06.460] roots cryptocurrency. That is on the one side. And then on the other side is asset protection, [03:06.860 --> 03:12.660] trust and families, portfolio management and estate and tax planning. So yeah, [03:12.660 --> 03:18.580] there's a very parallel that is happening. So basically, there are OGTO guys who I talk to [03:18.580 --> 03:24.200] and try to help to put together a plan to use the existing laws to help their cryptocurrency [03:24.200 --> 03:32.980] assets from a legal standpoint, from legal threats, and also to legally minimize taxes. [03:33.160 --> 03:37.640] And from the other side, in the traditional world, there are a lot of people who are very [03:37.640 --> 03:44.220] interested in cryptocurrency, but find themselves having a whole lot to learn. And so I try to help [03:44.220 --> 03:50.840] them with a Sherpa sort of service as someone who can bridge both of the worlds and speak both of [03:50.840 --> 03:57.760] their languages. But nonprofit work these days, I am a community volunteer with the Monero Project. [03:57.760 --> 04:04.320] So I am volunteering to be speaking here right now. I do not get any compensation from the Monero [04:04.320 --> 04:09.300] Project. I have never sought to get compensation from the Monero Project. In fact, I want to keep [04:09.300 --> 04:17.220] my independence because my primary duty is to my consulting clients to whom I have the duty of [04:17.220 --> 04:25.800] looking at this space. And by this space, I mean the space of nonprofit, open source, [04:25.800 --> 04:32.220] non-security cryptocurrencies, and look at that space and come to a conclusion to what is going [04:32.220 --> 04:38.480] to be best for my clients. And in my current opinion, there are really just two projects worth [04:38.480 --> 04:46.990] mentioning in this, and those would be Bitcoin and Monero. So my talk today is called Sound Money [04:46.990 --> 04:53.430] Safe and it has got four parts. First, I am going to show the backdrop, the backdrop that none of [04:53.430 --> 04:57.990] us can avoid here in 20N, that is that of the global pandemic that is happening. And I will [04:57.990 --> 05:04.490] focus on the economic impact of that. Second part is independent scarcity. So given that fiat [05:05.030 --> 05:12.630] money is showing signs of strain at the moment, I will go into independent sources of scarcity that [05:13.320 --> 05:18.810] would be wise for people to consider at this point in history. Third is fungibility versus [05:18.810 --> 05:25.750] surveillance. So it turns out that not all of the independent scarcity sources are aimed as in terms [05:25.750 --> 05:32.370] of fungibility and against a larger backdrop of growing mass surveillance. There are societal [05:32.370 --> 05:38.250] issues to consider about the fungibility or lack thereof in sources of independent scarcity. And [05:38.250 --> 05:44.250] then finally is the section involved. And this section has two different levels. So the more [05:44.250 --> 05:51.030] superficial level would be that of considering independent sources of scarcity as a content of [05:51.030 --> 05:55.830] one's portfolio. So basically an investment sort of framework where I put my hedge fund hat on and [05:55.830 --> 06:00.110] at Monero and Bitcoin and gold from that perspective. And then a more [06:00.110 --> 06:05.230] deeper level of actual, you know, involvement of people into this project. [06:06.030 --> 06:11.190] All right, and I wanted to know that I gave acknowledgement to a few people who I had [06:11.190 --> 06:17.710] conscience with in preparing for this talk. So Howard H.Y. Hsu, a very frequent Monero code [06:17.710 --> 06:24.510] contributor, Dr. Serang of the Monero Research Lab, and Dr. Francisco Cabanas of the core team. [06:24.510 --> 06:30.710] So thank you to them. Okay, so much has been said about the pandemic, but I'll just [06:31.310 --> 06:39.710] frame it with a couple of ideas here. So one is that one could look at this whole pandemic as a [06:39.710 --> 06:46.330] very clever people of social engineering on the part of a microbe. So it's been social engineered [06:46.330 --> 06:52.610] to take advantage of how humans have evolved to have simple heuristics to determine whether we're [06:52.610 --> 06:58.190] sick or not. So here's what I'm talking about. So this is how most of us behave pre-pandemic. [06:58.190 --> 07:03.390] We'd be sitting around at home. I feel like going out. Yes or no, if you don't feel like going out, [07:03.390 --> 07:08.170] you remain at home. But eventually you do feel like going out. And so because you feel like [07:08.170 --> 07:12.530] going out, therefore you must be healthy. That's the dramatic conclusion that you come up with, [07:12.530 --> 07:17.570] because if you were not feeling health, obviously you would not feel like going out. You would feel [07:17.570 --> 07:24.110] lying down in bed. And now we can look back at this kind of self-diagnosis with a bit of [07:25.270 --> 07:30.570] kind of like it was a long ago sort of thing to do to come to the conclusion that you're [07:30.570 --> 07:36.310] healthy if you feel like going out. That's how it was, and that's how the virus basically [07:36.310 --> 07:42.450] social engineered that tendency. So now we're public. Do we see anyone coughing? And that [07:42.450 --> 07:48.770] is our criteria for making a thought assessment as to the wellness or sickness state of people [07:48.770 --> 07:54.470] who we interact with. So in the pre-pandemic times, we would notice that I saw somebody [07:54.470 --> 07:58.470] coughing and then we would say, oh, gee, that must be a sick person. I'm going to avoid that. [07:58.470 --> 08:02.550] But otherwise, just carry on. So you might distance from someone who's coughing, but [08:02.550 --> 08:06.870] you don't make a big out of it in your mind. You just kind of make a little note and then maybe [08:07.790 --> 08:12.250] stay another two away from them when you're talking to them. But otherwise, just carry on. [08:12.450 --> 08:24.610] So basically, the SARS-CoV-2, the virus that's caused the COVID-19 disease and the current [08:24.610 --> 08:33.490] pandemic can be seen as having social engineered reaction to diagnosing wellness versus sickness. [08:33.550 --> 08:38.430] And of course, no soon likes to be told that your instincts are way off. And there's something new [08:38.430 --> 08:47.310] out there that is screwing up your ability to tell sickness wellness. So lots of people don't [08:47.310 --> 08:52.110] really react well to that. They take offense to the idea that natural instincts could possibly [08:52.110 --> 08:58.090] be wrong. But unfortunately, they're lost to that, to kind of clinging to this notion that one's [08:58.090 --> 09:06.530] former framework was even in the face of new data. All right, on the right side, I'm showing a paper [09:06.530 --> 09:11.590] that was published in The Lancet, which is the premier medical journal from the UK. And what they [09:11.590 --> 09:17.370] did is that these researchers took a COVID-19 virus, and they deliberately put some of it on [09:17.370 --> 09:23.950] money, on cash money. And then they measured how long it would take for that virus to dissipate [09:23.950 --> 09:30.210] and not be measurable anymore. And you get there's a rather unfortunate situation here. [09:30.210 --> 09:37.430] Seeing that the 50-hour mark, but they're still seeing detectable amounts of virus on money. [09:37.730 --> 09:44.390] So days after deliberately putting virus on money, it's still detectable. There's actually three or [09:44.390 --> 09:50.650] four days that are necessary for the virus levels to become undetectable on money. [09:51.170 --> 09:58.010] So basically, this puts a damper on the physical media as a store of value. [10:00.640 --> 10:06.100] So of course, this has rippled through the economy. Here I'm looking at M1 money supply is [10:06.100 --> 10:11.380] the amount of money that's in circulation in cash, credit, and checking accounts. And I'm [10:11.380 --> 10:19.440] looking at all of the fiat currencies of the G20. Here I'm getting data from 2009. And I 2009 because [10:19.440 --> 10:25.520] that is the year in which Bitcoin became a realty. So basically, in January of 2009, I'm showing that [10:25.520 --> 10:31.420] one on the vertical scale here for all of the G20 fiat currencies. And then you can see that [10:31.420 --> 10:36.300] every single one of them has inflated since then. And then if you look at 20 here, [10:36.300 --> 10:43.160] you can see that there's a hockey stick shape curve, in which the money supplies of all the [10:43.160 --> 10:48.720] G20 were growing previous to the pandemic. But now that the pandemic has hit, it's really taken [10:48.720 --> 10:57.220] off. As a med school professor, I can't help but think of doubling times and for tumor growth, [10:57.220 --> 11:03.340] because this is the kind of thing that we in oncology think about in terms of exponential [11:03.340 --> 11:07.940] growth. It's like what's the link time? How long does it take for a cancerous tumor to double in [11:07.940 --> 11:14.220] size? And if you apply that same sort of framework here, you can see that pre-pandemic, it took the [11:14.220 --> 11:22.780] average G20 currency about maybe 10 years, 10 years to double, 8 to 10 years. So let's just say [11:22.780 --> 11:29.720] it's, you know, years to double. That means in 80 years, there will have been 10 instances of double, [11:29.720 --> 11:35.460] in other words, 2 to the 10th, or 1000 fold increase in the money supply over a year time span, [11:35.460 --> 11:42.000] which is an average life expectancy. So this money supply has been growing, it's been growing at a [11:42.000 --> 11:46.520] rate that's really unsustainable even before the pandemic. And now that the pandemic has hit, [11:46.520 --> 11:53.000] it's gotten even more out of control. Notable on this chart is the United States, because [11:53.600 --> 11:59.820] the U.S. has the privilege of being the world's reserve currency, and that is in gray here. And [11:59.820 --> 12:05.300] you can see here in 2020 that the slope of the gray line in the pandemic is even steeper than [12:05.300 --> 12:11.720] that of other countries. So if we lean on the U.S. a little bit more, we see the following situation. [12:11.720 --> 12:17.340] I'm looking at historical data from the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank. This data is all from FRED, [12:17.340 --> 12:23.620] which is the U.S. Federal Reserve's kind of warehouse of data. And there's a lot going on, [12:23.620 --> 12:27.900] so I'll break it down line by line. First, if you look at the blue line, this line here is U6 [12:27.900 --> 12:33.080] unemployment. U6 is the broadest measure of unemployment. It counts not only people who are [12:33.080 --> 12:38.440] currently actively looking for work, but also counts people who are underemployed, also people [12:38.440 --> 12:42.140] part-time employed when they want to be full-time employed, and it also counts people who are so [12:42.140 --> 12:47.440] discouraged from looking for work that they give up. So those three categories of people are [12:47.440 --> 12:52.020] actually not counted in the less expansive U3 definition of unemployment, which is what you [12:52.020 --> 12:57.680] can see in the news. But I'm plotting the more kind of accurate and expansive measure of [12:57.680 --> 13:02.700] unemployment, which is U6. And that is the left scale here. So you can see it starts at zero and [13:02.700 --> 13:07.460] goes to 20 percent, 40 percent on the scale. And so through history, and I'm looking at a pretty [13:07.460 --> 13:14.500] long term here, 40 years of data starting in 1980, the unemployment rate kind of spiked here in the last [13:14.500 --> 13:20.540] financial crisis at about 18 percent. But now if you look here at the year 20, the unemployment [13:20.540 --> 13:26.200] rate has spiked even higher. It peaked at about 23 percent a couple months ago. Thankfully it's [13:26.200 --> 13:34.020] gone down since then, but this is bigger than the rest the others have been. Also in response to this [13:34.020 --> 13:40.740] has been the increase in the money supply. As you know, the supply of U.S. dollars is [13:40.740 --> 13:46.900] controlled by a committee of people, the Federal Open Committee, and they get together and they [13:46.900 --> 13:51.620] just, do we want to print more money or do we want to not print more money? And so if you can look at [13:51.620 --> 13:57.240] this green curve, this is MZM money supplies, which stands for money zero maturity. That means [13:57.740 --> 14:02.240] currency checking accounts, also savings accounts and money market accounts, which a lot of people [14:02.240 --> 14:07.560] use kind of liquid storage savings that's denominated in U.S. It does not include the [14:07.560 --> 14:13.980] certificates of deposit, which would be included in the M2 money. So anyway, the MZM money supply [14:13.980 --> 14:21.000] is a more, it's a broad and also liquid, completely liquid measure of the money supply. [14:21.380 --> 14:26.320] So if you look at that throughout history, of course it's hard to get a handle on how big that [14:26.320 --> 14:30.740] is because it's numbering the trillions of dollars. So I normalized the MZM money supply [14:30.740 --> 14:35.940] by big domestic product with U.S. And result here is on the green line. And that is using the [14:35.940 --> 14:43.660] right-hand scale here. You can see that this supply has been growing steadily from 30% in the [14:43.660 --> 14:53.000] Reagan era, going to about 70% in the last financial crisis. And now in 2020, it's truly taken [14:53.000 --> 14:59.900] off. It's this line here that is now above 100%. So we've managed to inflate our money supply from [14:59.900 --> 15:08.140] about 75% of GDP to about 100% of GDP in just a few months. Okay. So that's monetary policy, [15:08.140 --> 15:13.540] which is money is there existing in the economy. There's a fiscal policy to look at. Fiscal policy [15:13.540 --> 15:20.580] being the income and expenses of the federal government, which is ostensibly independent [15:20.580 --> 15:25.940] from that of the monetary policy. On the bottom here, you're looking at how much money is the U.S. [15:25.940 --> 15:30.680] government taking in minus how much money the U.S. government spending on a monthly basis all the way [15:30.680 --> 15:36.600] back to 1980. And you can see it's kind of going back and forth, usually slightly below this 0% [15:36.600 --> 15:42.340] line, meaning the usual situation is for there to be a slight deficit. You got the deficit got [15:42.340 --> 15:52.240] bigger here in the last financial 2009, 2008-2009. But now fast for you, the current place and all of [15:52.240 --> 16:00.660] these here have to be renormalized to accommodate just how far gone south. Now, this particular [16:00.660 --> 16:06.240] might be temporary because if you're in the U.S., you probably know that usual deadline for submitting [16:06.240 --> 16:11.780] taxes, which is April got postponed this year to July 15 due to the pandemic. And so for this [16:11.780 --> 16:17.520] three-month period between April and July, there was no tax due, neither income tax of the year [16:17.520 --> 16:26.760] 2019 nor estimated taxes for Q1 of 2020. So you have to see with basically zero income coming in [16:26.760 --> 16:34.420] from the IRS's point of view, that the income minus expenses would tank like this. So, you know, [16:34.420 --> 16:39.920] I'm actually hoping to see that this line recovered. So hopefully now that July 15 has come [16:39.920 --> 16:45.880] and gone, hopefully the IRS has had a, you know, a bonanza of tax money coming in and this downward [16:47.520 --> 16:55.940] spike here will be temporary because they're upward spike, if this is true, of revenue coming in. [16:57.320 --> 17:05.200] Now, if you take the time integrated of having a budget deficit, that is, if you have a month [17:05.200 --> 17:09.500] deficit, that's basically like you have a credit card bill coming in and you don't pay it off in [17:09.500 --> 17:15.560] full. You pay 90% of it and 10% of it you don't, and then that grows interest. So what is the [17:15.560 --> 17:20.620] overall balance of your credit card as it grows over time? And that is the time integrated [17:21.240 --> 17:26.420] curve of this gray line in the bottom. And that is the top line here, federal debt as a, again, [17:26.420 --> 17:33.080] normalized function of GDP. You can see again that it's grown quite a bit since 40 years ago, [17:33.080 --> 17:41.480] since about 30% of GDP. And then in the financial crisis, it grew to about 100% of GDP. [17:41.480 --> 17:48.320] Now, we're seeing the number up here. Now, this particular metric is delayed because [17:48.320 --> 17:52.520] all of these are coming from government bureaucracies. So they're delayed by several [17:52.520 --> 17:58.660] months as it takes much time for these aggregate statistics to get figured out. [17:58.660 --> 18:05.680] So this federal debt to GDP black line is, you're only seeing Q1 20, which is why you have not seen [18:05.680 --> 18:11.100] this particular line spike upwards in terms of the federal debt to GDP. But that's a number to [18:11.100 --> 18:20.760] look at. Why is this all of grave concern? There is a interesting by Peter Bernholz. He is an [18:20.760 --> 18:26.060] academic in Switzerland called Monetary Regimes and Inflation. And he did a study of 29 historic [18:26.060 --> 18:32.380] instances of hyperinflation going all the way back to Roman Empire. And in 25 is 29 historical [18:32.380 --> 18:37.980] cases of hyperinflation. The root cause of the hyperinflation was money creation on the part [18:37.980 --> 18:45.020] of the government being used to finance government deficits. So get this curve here, you have money [18:45.020 --> 18:51.520] creation, that's the green line spike, and then we have deficits. And that as soon as we see the [18:52.320 --> 18:59.580] data flag period, I'm sure we're going to see that spike as well. So this is all rather concerning. [19:01.720 --> 19:10.920] And I think given, you know, given this data, it is prudent to consider the possibility that [19:10.920 --> 19:17.320] inflating in the future, price inflation, now not just by asset inflation, will be higher than it [19:17.320 --> 19:23.820] has been. And if that's true, then you'll want to be considering looking at alternate sources of [19:23.820 --> 19:30.600] scarcity. So here, economy of assets, and they're divided into six categories, physical assets. [19:30.900 --> 19:37.160] So you have real estate, art, cash, and precious metal. And I would argue that in the COVID era, [19:37.160 --> 19:43.240] all of these physical assets, maybe with the exception of real estate, have taken a bit of a [19:43.240 --> 19:48.480] hit in terms of desirability because of all of the issues having to do with, you know, contamination. [19:49.280 --> 19:55.260] You have digital centralized assets here. So that includes bank accounts, all the stuff in [19:55.260 --> 20:00.040] the chart just been showing, the stock market, the bond market. I would say also crypto exchange [20:00.040 --> 20:06.640] accounts. So people think they own crypto, but actually just have on a crypto exchange, [20:06.640 --> 20:11.720] don't actually own crypto. They own an IOU from a crypto exchange, and that is a centralized [20:11.720 --> 20:18.000] asset because the exchange itself is a centralized entity. Therefore, if the exchange goes down, [20:18.000 --> 20:25.060] then the IOU becomes less. So I would categorize that as a centralized asset. [20:25.700 --> 20:31.980] Now, since 2009, which is the Nakamoto white paper coming out, there's been a new option [20:31.980 --> 20:39.820] in terms of assets, and these are digital decentralized assets. Decentralized means not a [20:39.820 --> 20:46.640] single committee of people who can arbitrarily increase or decrease the government asset. [20:46.640 --> 20:53.260] And if you look at the non-fungible of asset, that would be Bitcoin. And the fungible type, [20:53.260 --> 21:00.720] the dominant leader now is Monero. So part of this talk, I'm not assuming that the [21:00.720 --> 21:06.540] viewer is one who has been kind of thinking deeply about cryptocurrency for the last many years. [21:06.540 --> 21:13.440] DEF CON is a pretty, you know, it's a big tent for geeks of all varieties in DEF CON, including [21:14.000 --> 21:18.060] people who have not really been kind of living and breathing, you know, cryptocurrency for several [21:18.060 --> 21:27.220] years. So I want to give some, I guess, high level points to take away as to why cryptocurrency is [21:27.220 --> 21:32.680] not kind of the scammy thing I'd have heard of, but there is actually a kernel of genuine [21:32.680 --> 21:38.220] innovation in this stuff is worth thinking about and further exploring. So I want to contrast [21:38.220 --> 21:42.140] two types of digital scarcity. Neutralized scarcity, which is what we currently have [21:42.140 --> 21:47.840] with fiat currencies, because after all, the U.S. dollar is currently, it's a digital currency. [21:48.020 --> 21:52.520] When you go to your bank, they're not, you know, handwriting stuff in some ledger, [21:52.520 --> 21:56.900] it's all computerized, obviously. And, you know, there's such a thing as online banking, [21:56.900 --> 22:02.560] in which your USD in digital form can be limited, in a limited way, manipulated within your [22:04.420 --> 22:11.220] online account. So the U.S. dollar is currently in digital form, but it's centralized. What that [22:11.220 --> 22:16.720] means is access to the database, that by database, I mean, keeping track of who owns what, [22:16.720 --> 22:22.220] that is protected, that is like moat sort of security model, in which you have the precious [22:22.220 --> 22:27.560] database in the middle of the moat, you build this protective moat around it to defend that [22:27.560 --> 22:34.380] database from bad actors. So there's one authoritative version of that. So this goes all [22:34.380 --> 22:39.080] the way up to the Federal Reserve. So when a reserve comes and makes a decision that it wants [22:39.080 --> 22:44.420] to be printing money, that it just issues a command to somebody and then somebody, you know, [22:44.420 --> 22:50.140] click mouse button to increase the U.S. dollar money supply by, you know, in dollars. That must [22:50.140 --> 22:56.120] be actually quite a bit of job security in that particular federal employee. The person has to [22:56.120 --> 23:00.880] sit there at the computer and click create a billion dollars over and over on their computer. [23:01.300 --> 23:07.800] But the point is that there's one authoritative version of USD ledger, and it just takes, [23:07.800 --> 23:14.280] you know, at the heart of it, just one person to just change it at will. Of course, the code [23:14.280 --> 23:18.900] behind this also is closed. So I mean, why would a bank open source its code that it's running on? [23:18.900 --> 23:22.780] That would be ridiculous. Then you're showing, you know, basically the blueprints of the [23:22.780 --> 23:27.980] of the joint and people who would have bad intentions. So there's a closed source [23:28.860 --> 23:33.720] software development model in centralized security. If you're familiar with the book, [23:33.720 --> 23:39.200] Cathedral R, actually it started out as an article and then it got expanded. This is a book [23:39.200 --> 23:45.040] that details the kind of conflicting or contrasting ways of software development. One is the Cathedral, [23:45.040 --> 23:51.700] that is the top-down command and control sort of Microsoft-style building of software, [23:51.700 --> 23:56.140] which is exactly what we're looking at in the kind of bank sort of realm. And also I'd say [23:56.140 --> 24:00.680] ethical realm, where you have a highly regulated industry. So you have specialized software [24:00.680 --> 24:05.820] companies that kind of learn all of the rope that they have to comply with within that industry. And [24:05.820 --> 24:12.580] then they make expensive ware that they then sell to players within that industry. So that sort of [24:12.580 --> 24:18.980] top-down model works in industries like that. And that's in contrast to the bazaar, which is [24:18.980 --> 24:23.860] just a whole bunch of flea market of people working and people coming and going, people [24:23.860 --> 24:29.500] selling at will, buying at will. And that is the Linux model of software development with more in [24:29.500 --> 24:34.400] keeping with Bitcoin and Monero. So there are downsides to this centralized security model, [24:34.400 --> 24:38.760] even though Equitas and everyone uses it, there are downsides to it. So mismanagement, [24:39.520 --> 24:45.280] the charts that I showed of really out-of-control growth in the money supply could be interpreted [24:45.280 --> 24:50.740] as signs of mismanagement in fiat currency. There's also insider abuse. In other words, [24:50.740 --> 24:56.140] if you are in a position where you have access to the database of who owns what, [24:56.140 --> 25:00.360] there are things that can be done to abuse that. So for example, there is a case in which [25:00.360 --> 25:07.200] the Bank of America, sorry, it was Wells Fargo, that took personal data of its own customers [25:07.200 --> 25:13.920] to fictitiously create accounts, fake checking and savings accounts in the names of their customers. [25:13.920 --> 25:20.220] And then they proceeded to charge fees on those accounts, which was unbeknownst to their [25:20.220 --> 25:28.220] actual customers. So, and then, you know, really egregious violation of trust was punished with [25:28.220 --> 25:32.540] just basically a slap on the wrist. It was like, you know, a day's process. That was the fine from [25:32.540 --> 25:39.040] the federal regulators. So insider abuse, you have basically a protected class of middle people and [25:39.780 --> 25:46.180] is something that is a downside of this. And finally, it's slow to improve. So if you are [25:46.180 --> 25:53.280] in a position of middleman in a database that everyone needs access to, then, you know, you can [25:53.280 --> 25:58.280] impose things like, we're only going to do wire transfers through Friday, you know, nine to five [25:58.280 --> 26:03.480] during bank hours. Why would you need to improve that? Because, you know, they have to go through [26:03.480 --> 26:08.400] you to access to the network. So, you know, what incentive is there really to try to improve your [26:08.400 --> 26:13.980] service levels? So that's why we still have a situation in which, you know, for many, [26:13.980 --> 26:20.020] for many, for options in fiat banking that are not the simplest level of option, [26:20.020 --> 26:25.220] you still need to wait for somebody to show up at the branch office to get your business done. [26:25.500 --> 26:30.040] And you'll trust this with a situation, for example, shopping where everyone can, you know, [26:30.040 --> 26:34.920] everyone's used to shopping 24-7 on their phone with Amazon. The financial service industry has [26:34.920 --> 26:42.240] been lagging in terms of adopting the advantages. So then if we move to decentralized security, [26:42.240 --> 26:48.360] this is Bitcoin and Monero, then anyone can do peer-to-peer network. So as in contrast to the [26:48.360 --> 26:53.940] situation in fiat banking, in the Monero, anyone in the world can download the Bitcoin software, [26:53.940 --> 26:59.600] Monero software, and join their own computer to the global network of computers that is in track [26:59.600 --> 27:05.660] of who spends, who sends what to who in this anonymy using these new forms of currency. [27:06.120 --> 27:11.460] So anyone in the world can join this peer-to-peer network. Each node maintains its own virtual ledger. [27:11.460 --> 27:16.300] So this is in contrast to there being just one authoritative ledger. In Bitcoin and Monero, [27:16.300 --> 27:21.240] there are thousands and thousands of copies of the ledger sent what to who, and these copies are [27:21.240 --> 27:28.040] distributed worldwide. The code is all open source, so anyone in the world is free to download the [27:28.040 --> 27:36.040] source code and look at it, examine it themselves, commit themselves, run it themselves, and nothing... [27:37.260 --> 27:41.660] this is actually a feature, it's not a bug, it's a feature, because just like in the Linux software [27:41.660 --> 27:48.600] development world, the idea is more eyeballs on the code are going to squash more bugs than just [27:48.600 --> 27:53.020] having a closed source version of the code in which only a few people are able to see the code. [27:53.020 --> 27:56.540] If you have only a few people seeing the code, then the chances are that a bug [27:57.600 --> 28:02.380] gets... could be undetected for a long time. Whereas in this decentralized security model, [28:02.380 --> 28:08.440] it's open source, free and open software. The downsides of this new kind of way of measuring [28:08.440 --> 28:14.880] scarcity is that it's new. So the Bitcoin white paper came out in 2008, and I guess unfortunately [28:15.380 --> 28:19.820] it's... technically it's complicated. It's hard for people to get their heads around, like even [28:19.820 --> 28:25.820] like, you know, elite geeks have trouble getting around like these ideas, because it's like not [28:25.820 --> 28:31.460] only do you need a measure, a high degree of technical competence to kind of grasp the idea [28:31.460 --> 28:37.200] of the Nakamoto white paper, you also need a certain amount of plessy in terms of not immediately [28:37.200 --> 28:43.720] rejecting something that is foreign at first. And so those two things combined mean that adoption [28:43.720 --> 28:47.780] is slow. I mean, it's just necessarily going to be slow. You have something that's hard to [28:47.780 --> 28:54.260] understand and requires like a flexibility in order to accept that it might actually work. [28:54.700 --> 28:58.880] Another side is that it's inefficient. So if every computer in this network has its own copy [28:58.880 --> 29:03.120] of the ledger, isn't that inefficient? How are you going to figure out what the correct version [29:03.120 --> 29:11.340] ledger is if people have disagreements about that? So I have a lot of material in this talk, [29:11.340 --> 29:17.040] so I'm going to boil down how Bitcoin and Monero work to just one slide, and it's necessarily fast. [29:17.600 --> 29:25.220] So if this goes too fast for any of you viewers, for example, my DEF CON keynote Monero Village [29:25.220 --> 29:30.960] last year, we'll go through this in a bit slower detail. There are three things that we want to [29:30.960 --> 29:37.140] take an analog of a fiat banking world and then move that to this new world centralized scarcity. [29:37.260 --> 29:41.400] Number one, how do you have rights? That is, what do you have for account numbers? [29:41.640 --> 29:45.800] So the analog of a bank account number is a solution to an elliptic curve. [29:45.800 --> 29:51.560] So an elliptic curve is just an equation. It's a specific equation. It's got x's and y's in it, [29:51.560 --> 29:58.480] just like your ninth grade high school algebra class. You have a relation relating x's and y's, [29:58.480 --> 30:03.560] and there's only a sub of combinations of points, x and y, that satisfy that equation. [30:03.660 --> 30:08.420] So in an elliptic curve, there is a large number of these solutions, [30:08.420 --> 30:14.220] but they are very hard to find by brute force. So in the elliptic curve standard, [30:14.220 --> 30:19.540] one is told not only the identity of the equation being used, but also what's called a base point. [30:19.660 --> 30:26.420] This base point p sub b, which the x y coordinate in space is going to be a solution that you hold [30:26.420 --> 30:32.240] will satisfy this elliptic curve. And then furthermore, given this base point, it is possible [30:32.240 --> 30:38.280] if somebody tells you some arbitrary n, it is possible to calculate the nth solution [30:38.280 --> 30:44.020] through the elliptic curve. So you have p sub n is x sub n, y sub n. And that is something that [30:44.020 --> 30:49.340] anyone can calculate with a computer, given that somebody tells you an arbitrary number n, [30:49.340 --> 30:55.460] and also that you know the base point p sub b, and also the exact form of the elliptic curve [30:55.460 --> 31:00.660] that you're talking about. This is a one-way function, so you cannot calculate the number n [31:00.660 --> 31:06.880] if somebody tells you the point p sub n. So this asymmetry, which is crucial to [31:08.600 --> 31:15.880] public-private key cryptography, it's just a fact that it's very easy to go one direction, [31:15.880 --> 31:20.920] that is to go from n to p sub n. But it's very hard. It's actually computationally infeasible. [31:20.920 --> 31:25.920] You have to brute force guess your solutions if somebody tells you p sub n and you want to [31:25.920 --> 31:30.880] try and recover n from them. So a natural application of this fact is to use sub n, [31:30.880 --> 31:36.740] which is the derivable number as the public, and use n, which is derivable, [31:36.740 --> 31:41.920] going the other way as the private key. So getting a new Bitcoin account, getting a new Monero, [31:41.920 --> 31:46.760] what do those both really mean at the heart of it? It means picking number for yourself. [31:46.780 --> 31:54.000] That's literally what it is. You're picking a number, which is a vast range that you can pick. [31:54.000 --> 32:01.980] It needs to be an integer between 1 and basically 256, roughly, which is a 78 number. It's just an [32:01.980 --> 32:09.120] unfathomably large number of combinations. It's an unfathomably large space of numbers that you [32:09.120 --> 32:12.140] are allowed to choose from when you pick your number. But that's what you're doing. You pick [32:12.140 --> 32:18.920] an account, you are picking a particular solution to the elliptic curve. The number is known only [32:18.920 --> 32:25.800] to you, and the X, Y coordinates are known to everybody. So, you know, they thankfully made [32:25.800 --> 32:30.040] steps to make it a little less geeky. Instead of sharing X, Y coordinates with people, you have [32:30.040 --> 32:35.280] what gets converted into a Bitcoin address or a Monero address, which is thankfully less cumbersome [32:35.280 --> 32:42.380] to use than, you know, two 77-digit numbers. But nevertheless, that's what they do. [32:42.700 --> 32:48.600] Okay, then second is, what is the decentralized world of check writing? So now we've established [32:48.600 --> 32:55.240] there's such a thing as private property, which constitutes having knowledge of a number. [32:55.640 --> 32:59.500] So let's say you have an account, you've picked your number, you have your public and private [32:59.500 --> 33:05.960] key pair, and you've gotten some funds in your account. How do you spend it? How do you write a [33:05.960 --> 33:11.480] check? And so that is secure messaging. So of course, the public and private key that I explained [33:11.480 --> 33:15.920] above, in addition to being used as your bank account number, it is also used as a secure [33:15.920 --> 33:20.240] message signing. So that's one of the clever things of the Nakamoto White Paper that we're [33:20.240 --> 33:26.440] used to thinking of public-private keys, you know, long, you know, basically, secure message [33:26.440 --> 33:30.760] signing came long before cryptocurrency. So it came decades before. So we're used to thinking [33:30.760 --> 33:35.220] of private and public keys as being the base of making secure message signing. What's new is that [33:35.220 --> 33:40.340] there's a second interpretation of the public and private key in the kind of finance. It's now [33:41.080 --> 33:49.040] ownership of funds. So forgery in this is when somebody else learns your key. If somebody else [33:49.040 --> 33:55.320] knows your private key, then they can write check and sign it convincingly, because that's what you [33:55.320 --> 34:00.120] need to write your signature is knowledge of the private key. So from the system's point of view, [34:00.120 --> 34:04.900] the system doesn't know who owns what, it doesn't know who owns what from a person point of view, [34:04.900 --> 34:09.980] it does know who owns what from a knowledge of the private key point of view. So knowledge of [34:09.980 --> 34:17.100] private key in this system is tantamount to and itself money. Finally, once a check gets written, [34:17.100 --> 34:20.800] and I process it, somebody's got to process the check. So in the fiat world, you write a check [34:20.800 --> 34:25.560] unit, and then it goes into the banking system, the banking system needs to process the check [34:25.560 --> 34:31.740] that you've written. So in the decent world, this is taken care of by a peer to peer accounting [34:31.740 --> 34:37.940] network. Again, as I said before, anyone in the world is free to do the Bitcoin core software or [34:37.940 --> 34:43.880] the Monero software, run their computer, and then they will be part of this accounting network. [34:44.140 --> 34:50.440] The accounting network is run by Moss, which is simply the nomenclature used in this world for a [34:50.440 --> 34:56.720] gossipy majority was peer to peer accountant. So world there is no boss computer, there is no [34:56.720 --> 35:01.680] master copy of the base that says who owns what you have thousands and thousands of scattered [35:01.680 --> 35:07.380] around the world of who owns what and nobody has a boss computer who who is to be deferred. [35:07.380 --> 35:12.660] Instead of having a boss, they will defer to instead majority rules. So that is what [35:13.140 --> 35:19.140] this difficult and that is what it makes network difficult for somebody to casually hack by [35:19.140 --> 35:24.640] introducing their own various computer onto the network that does something like sends all the [35:24.640 --> 35:31.840] Bitcoin to their own address. To make that work, in order for this transaction on your computer, [35:31.840 --> 35:37.480] which sends money to your own account, in order for that to be accepted by the overall network, [35:37.480 --> 35:42.320] it would have to be a majority computing power on the network that thinks that it is right and [35:42.320 --> 35:48.560] proper for the reward to be going to the to a single person's account. And so that's the [35:48.560 --> 35:55.000] impractical, expensive, infeasible to do. And in the game theory of this, if somebody did have [35:55.000 --> 36:00.260] that many computers would be in their interest, instead of trying to crash the system, [36:00.260 --> 36:04.800] crash the price of, say, Bitcoin, it would be in their interest to just join the system [36:04.800 --> 36:10.480] and use all of this fast computing power that they've amassed to work with this is because [36:10.480 --> 36:15.400] if you have more than 51% of the hash power, then you can get 21% of the rewards. [36:16.640 --> 36:23.980] Key to this system is that valid blocks are rare. So a block is a kind of data. That is, [36:23.980 --> 36:29.320] it's a it's a compilation of a certain time period of transactions that have happened at work. [36:29.320 --> 36:35.260] These transactions get checked for validity on a micro level, that is, each of these transacts [36:35.260 --> 36:40.300] checked for like a bounce check, they get checked to make sure that the person who wrote the check [36:40.300 --> 36:45.160] actually had enough money to the funds, right? So that those kind of checks happen on a on a [36:45.160 --> 36:50.880] micro level, on a macro level, when when, when 10 minutes worth of transactions, at least in the [36:50.880 --> 36:54.820] case of Bitcoin, it's 10 minutes in Monero, it's two minutes. But when a block of transaction [36:54.820 --> 37:00.600] into a block, it's not just copied and then written. There's a block actions that needs to [37:00.600 --> 37:07.160] have this rare character that that data collection of blocks has a hash that is below a different [37:07.160 --> 37:12.580] number. So a hash function, as I don't have to explain too much to a DEF CON is is a cryptographic [37:12.580 --> 37:18.900] hash function, it takes an input of any size outputs a output of fixed size, a fixed byte [37:18.900 --> 37:26.060] length. And this fixed byte length, the, the secrets in that fixed byte length are extraordinarily [37:26.060 --> 37:32.280] sensitive to even bit levels in the input. So it functions basically as a signature of any input. [37:32.280 --> 37:39.360] So usually we use hashes in a double checking that the hash that we have now is the hash that [37:39.360 --> 37:43.800] we had at some previous time. So if you are checking the integrity of a file that you don't, [37:43.800 --> 37:47.520] you will download the file, and then you will check the hash of what you did. And then you'll [37:47.520 --> 37:53.100] check that hash against a published hash of what people found for the same download. That way, [37:53.100 --> 37:57.260] you have some indicator that the file that you downloaded is indeed the same file that other [37:57.260 --> 38:02.940] people need to upload. And by the way, of course, checking hashes is something that is do record, [38:02.940 --> 38:09.320] it needs to be done by anyone who is downloading code from Bitcoin or Monero to run on their own [38:09.320 --> 38:13.940] computer, you want to make sure that the client that you download, the hash of that client is [38:13.940 --> 38:20.900] that of the of what the devs actually made. But in this case, in this case of the process [38:20.900 --> 38:25.040] of clearing checks, that is the peer to peer network that is keeping track of who spent what [38:25.040 --> 38:31.220] care about the actual value of that hash function. So when what comes out, it needs to have a hash [38:31.220 --> 38:36.460] function that is a small number needs to be. And that's a rather arbitrary thing. It's like there's [38:36.460 --> 38:42.140] no there's no intrinsic to having a low hash number. The transactions inside that block are [38:42.140 --> 38:48.040] still as if they if the block had a high hash number, what is different is a block, any block [38:48.040 --> 38:52.940] that has a very hash number is going to be a rare block, it's going to be very difficult to fake [38:52.940 --> 39:00.400] that. And that is the key, it's difficult to fake, it takes and trial and error to fake that block. [39:00.540 --> 39:07.620] And that's why a valid block needs to have a hash that is lower difficulty number. And this [39:07.620 --> 39:14.020] difficulty number in both Bitcoin narrow gets dynamically adjusted, so that in total, [39:14.540 --> 39:21.760] the entire network blocks will be generated new blocks rated at a on average fixed time. It's not [39:21.760 --> 39:27.620] constant time, because the process is Poisson distributed. In other words, the the probability [39:27.620 --> 39:32.620] per unit time new block will get created is constant. And when you have that you have Poisson [39:32.620 --> 39:37.920] distribution of the block time distribution. Alright, so the big picture point here is that [39:37.920 --> 39:44.980] every Bitcoin and Monero every like, I'm talking about the coin at the network, every unit of [39:44.980 --> 39:51.660] Bitcoin and every Monero currently in existence was given initially to a miner as compensation [39:51.660 --> 39:56.960] for helping to do the accounting work. So this is an important thing if you're new to the whole [39:56.960 --> 40:04.820] blockchains. There is a lot of truth to this claim that just a lot of scams, a lot of like a [40:04.820 --> 40:10.980] money grabbing in crypto. And having been in grad school at the dot-com bubble, I can say that there [40:11.140 --> 40:15.600] are a lot of similarities to the current situation in blockchain versus the c-track there than in [40:15.600 --> 40:23.420] the dot-com. So back then, internet was new, and normies had no idea what email was or website was. [40:23.420 --> 40:28.560] It's hard to imagine, I know, if you're younger than a certain age, but that's what the world was [40:28.560 --> 40:35.060] like back then. People had no idea what email was and why would somebody bother to send email when [40:35.060 --> 40:40.200] you have the perfectly good system where you can just stick a stamp on something and send it. [40:40.200 --> 40:43.740] Like, why would you do email? It's hard to understand now, but that was the mentality. [40:43.760 --> 40:48.600] And along with that went kind of a gold rush in which kind of information investors [40:49.440 --> 40:54.760] went chasing around and that had any, you know, hint of internet in it. So there was a thing [40:54.760 --> 41:00.600] called pets.com back in the day, and their business model was to FedEx pound sacks of dog [41:00.600 --> 41:07.700] food around to people. Their, you know, innovation here was that they use the internet, the website, [41:07.700 --> 41:12.940] to take their pet food orders. And so that made this, you know, sexy new company and investors [41:12.940 --> 41:18.160] actually bought that. And, you know, eventually it went bankrupt. You know, it's obvious to us [41:18.160 --> 41:23.920] now there's a pretty boneheaded idea, but now you look today at the blockchain space and the exact [41:23.920 --> 41:30.720] same thing is happening. It's like stupid idea plus blockchain equals sexy. And yeah, that's the [41:30.720 --> 41:37.520] situation. So, but one way that you can quickly weed out a lot of these companies is to ask them [41:38.180 --> 41:43.780] who gets the block reward. You might have this kind of variation of an automotive consensus on [41:43.780 --> 41:49.720] your particular little project, but who's getting the money is getting the issuance of the coins. [41:49.760 --> 41:56.000] And in pretty much every scammy case, you will find that the bit, the, the unit, which in Bitcoin [41:56.000 --> 42:01.700] gets democratically did it to all of the computers that are helping secure the network. And again, [42:01.700 --> 42:07.340] that happens in the same way in Monero. In Monero, all of the Monero currently in existence previously [42:07.340 --> 42:12.920] given out as a reward to the distributed network of computers for which everyone has an event of [42:12.920 --> 42:20.720] getting a piece of that pie, if you just put your computer on it. In any, in, in the vast majority [42:20.720 --> 42:27.280] of currencies that has been subjugated and changed to quickly funnel some of that, some or all of [42:27.280 --> 42:35.320] that money to a group of people. And it goes by various names, you know, but the, the idea is that [42:35.320 --> 42:41.600] this reward, which goes to a decentralized miner in the case of a true cryptocurrency goes to, [42:41.880 --> 42:47.980] a select group of people who, as you are told, have nothing but the best intentions in mind. [42:48.100 --> 42:53.380] And they are going to spend money wisely, but history suggests that such promises should be [42:53.380 --> 43:01.080] taken with a bit of skepticism. All right, so scarcity and bit Monero, Nakamoto consensus [43:01.080 --> 43:07.220] synthesizes scarcity. This is what would be a Nobel prize winning in psychonomics. [43:07.240 --> 43:10.240] But unfortunately, the Nobel prize needs to be given to an actual human. [43:10.240 --> 43:15.040] And since Satoshi Nakamoto pseudonym, there's, there's not going to be a Nobel for the, [43:15.040 --> 43:22.620] for the Bitcoin, but this idea that scarcity can be measured in this decentralized way, [43:22.620 --> 43:29.020] that does not require somebody up being the centralized guru of that, of that source of [43:29.020 --> 43:34.960] scarcity. That is a fundamentally new kernel of insight. And it's worth thinking, I think, [43:34.960 --> 43:39.780] pretty deeply if you haven't already. So when I say scarcity and Bitcoin and Monero, that's scarcity [43:39.780 --> 43:44.380] is sort of a broad word. So I'm specific. There are three types of scarcity that I'm about in [43:44.380 --> 43:49.180] these decentralized currencies. Number one is at the account level. So that's property. How do we [43:49.180 --> 43:54.720] know that there's scarcity in terms of who owns what? So that is enforced each user of that [43:54.720 --> 44:01.520] cryptocurrency selecting, and then subsequently protecting their particular elliptic elliptic [44:01.520 --> 44:06.620] curve solution. In other words, private key and public key pair, and then keeping that private [44:06.620 --> 44:12.660] key private and their own personal secret. So that is how account level scarcity is used. [44:12.780 --> 44:18.700] Aggregate level scarcity. How do we know that the total number of value units in this accounting [44:18.700 --> 44:24.800] system is not going to run away with growth like we see in fiat? In other words, how is the macro [44:24.800 --> 44:30.220] money supply control? Well, that is controlled at the level of the miners on the network for [44:30.220 --> 44:37.740] the emission schedule of future duration of the money is programmed in advance. So for example, [44:37.740 --> 44:46.100] Bitcoin, every 210,000 blocks, the reward that is given to the miner who successfully comes up [44:46.100 --> 44:52.660] with a new block in the Bitcoin blockchain gets cut in half. And so that is known for all of [44:52.660 --> 44:58.720] history. Basically, all of the miners in the net know what the emission schedule for new money is [44:58.720 --> 45:04.040] in advance. So it's basically programmed in advance to all of these mining computers, [45:04.040 --> 45:09.140] how much money is there going to be in the entire net. And that is enforced because these again, [45:09.140 --> 45:14.920] these network of decentralized computers is majority rules. So anyone new who joins the [45:14.920 --> 45:21.220] network is advised to go along with the majority rule set because that the blocks that they [45:21.220 --> 45:25.000] generate are going to be accepted by their peer network, they're not going to get it. [45:25.000 --> 45:30.940] So that is why there's disincentive for them to attempt to hack the network by putting their own [45:31.460 --> 45:35.580] nefarious node on. That nefarious node, yes, it can join the network, but he's going to stop it [45:35.580 --> 45:40.280] from joining the network. But once it comes up with kind of attractions and blocks that the [45:40.280 --> 45:44.260] rest of the network thinks are fraudulent, the rest of the network will reject those [45:44.260 --> 45:50.560] blocks coming from the nefarious node. So and it's in the interest of each individual node [45:51.200 --> 45:56.080] joining the network to play along, to play nice. That's the part of the game theory of the Nakamoto [45:56.080 --> 46:01.460] white paper and the brilliant way it works. Finally, third scarcity is database modification [46:01.460 --> 46:07.480] scarcity. So in a SQL database, if you have super user privilege, you can always write anything you [46:07.480 --> 46:12.160] want to the database at any time. So this is different in situation with a decentralized [46:12.160 --> 46:19.880] ledger that Nakamoto census puts together. Each page that written to the database has to have a [46:19.880 --> 46:24.980] hash that is lower than a dynamically adjusted difficulty threshold, which means you cannot just [46:24.980 --> 46:30.660] have arbitrary write access to this, to the big database or the Monero database. You have to put [46:30.660 --> 46:36.180] in a lot of computational power just to add one quanta of information, that is the block, [46:36.180 --> 46:41.960] to add one block of information to this. This takes an extraordinary net effort of computing [46:41.960 --> 46:47.780] power to do. So it's restricted in that way. And then further, since each block in the chain [46:47.780 --> 46:54.140] contain as a check, the hash of the block that preceded. So now you have a linked list of [46:54.740 --> 47:01.440] block, each of which has a pointer, contains the hash of the previous block, which means that not [47:01.440 --> 47:07.400] only is there scarcity in ability to introduce new data to the database, there's basically [47:07.400 --> 47:13.540] permanence of the, especially the older records in that database, because for somebody to fake [47:13.540 --> 47:17.520] the database, you would have to put in an inordinate amount of computing power, more than [47:17.520 --> 47:35.380] the GLOW currently has, to actually do a rollback of the chain. Oh, I'm seeing that there are [47:35.380 --> 47:45.000] problems here. Well, at least I'm looking at the YouTube feed. The video looks to be okay. [47:45.000 --> 47:51.900] I apologize for any technical issues. We do have a local recording, so at the very least, [47:51.900 --> 47:59.300] even if the stream is not working correctly, we have a pristine 1080p version copy of this, so [47:59.300 --> 48:05.920] it will go later. So, proceeding on. So, scarcity. What are miniatures of scarcity? Number one [48:06.940 --> 48:12.780] is it has a code base that is not a bit fork. So, many of the cryptocurrencies that simply did a [48:12.780 --> 48:18.360] copy-paste of Bitcoin, and then they slap some things on there, and they claim that they have [48:18.440 --> 48:23.140] a new cryptocurrency. That is not the case. It was built from the ground up as a separate [48:23.140 --> 48:28.400] coin code base. The elliptic curve used in Monero is different than Bitcoin. So, [48:28.400 --> 48:33.520] Monero uses the ED2551 elliptic curve, which is different than Bitcoin. So, the fundamental [48:33.520 --> 48:41.760] equation governing valid XY coordinators is different. So, the difference is the [48:41.760 --> 48:47.860] indents of Monero goes down to the deepest level of cryptographic primitives. In Monero, [48:48.440 --> 48:54.540] so, in Monero, we have a spend key, which is akin to the private key of Bitcoin. But we also, [48:54.540 --> 48:59.200] in Monero, we have what's called the view key, which is basically a graphic subset of the view. [48:59.320 --> 49:05.260] And the view key is what is going to be used if somebody wants to get view access to the ledger [49:05.260 --> 49:10.080] shared around the world. So, in Monero, everyone in the world can download a copy of the ledger [49:10.080 --> 49:16.080] for themselves, in which they can see who sent what to who. But in Monero, this ledger is encrypted [49:16.580 --> 49:21.920] because the default position in Monero is that unless you were part of the transaction, [49:21.920 --> 49:26.660] it's just not your business what the details of the transaction were. It's basically just how [49:26.660 --> 49:32.960] cash works. Like imagine a system of cash that you could, you know, stick your nose to everyone [49:32.960 --> 49:38.560] else's business around the world and be privy to the details of who gave cash to who around the [49:38.560 --> 49:43.900] world. That's basically the system that everyone has set up. And one thing that Monero has done [49:43.900 --> 49:50.160] is to meet a solution with its own technical stack. Another difference is the address space. [49:50.160 --> 49:55.260] So, in Monero, the address space is 10 to the 76, roughly, whereas in Bitcoin, it's about 10 to 60. [49:55.260 --> 50:00.740] So, this means that in Monero, the birthday problem is less of a concern than it is in Bitcoin. [50:00.740 --> 50:09.040] The birthday problem being that if what is to get an account is to pick a number, [50:09.040 --> 50:16.500] then make a public-private key pair out of that, then you have the problem that the random number [50:16.500 --> 50:21.900] that you pick for your account could, by coincidence, be the same random number that's on the other side [50:21.900 --> 50:26.120] of the world picks for their own account. And if that situation happens, then you have [50:26.120 --> 50:31.040] two people with knowledge of the private and public key pair, and so you don't actually have [50:31.040 --> 50:35.740] single ownership of that. There's somebody else somewhere else in the world that also can spend [50:35.740 --> 50:41.260] your money. Obviously, that's bad. And the chance of that happening is astronomically low just [50:41.260 --> 50:46.980] because of the astronomically high number of addresses there are in both in Monero. [50:46.980 --> 50:52.900] But because there are another, you know, 16 zeros worth of addresses in Monero, this is going to be [50:52.900 --> 51:00.440] 16 zeros worth of zeros, even more rare and less of a concern in Monero. Next is a difference in [51:00.440 --> 51:05.380] the emission, the minor reward schedule. So, in Monero, it's continuously decreasing. There are not [51:05.380 --> 51:11.400] four-year happenings like we have in Bitcoin. So, the continuously decreasing [51:12.500 --> 51:16.840] emission is, like many things, something that the Monero community has looked at [51:17.620 --> 51:23.020] as happening in the granddaddy community, that is the Bitcoin community, and then think ways that [51:23.020 --> 51:29.620] things could be done maybe a bit different than are done in the granddaddy, and giving all due [51:29.620 --> 51:36.620] respect to Bitcoin. So, in Bitcoin, every four years, like I mentioned before, the block reward [51:36.620 --> 51:41.780] that is given successful computers that add a block to the blockchain is cut in half, which [51:41.780 --> 51:45.960] means if you're a Bitcoin miner, there's a date circled on the calendar in which the mining [51:45.960 --> 51:52.880] reward, your mining income, is going to get in half. And so, as a result, there is a lot of [51:52.880 --> 51:58.080] drama that happens. Like, imagine if you're doing mining as a business, then basically there's a [51:58.080 --> 52:03.400] date that's contrary, in which your income is going to get cut in half. So, that puts in a lot [52:03.400 --> 52:08.300] of disruption to the act of mining. And so, this is something that we avoid in the Monero community [52:08.300 --> 52:14.320] by having a continuously decreasing miner rewards. There's also a form of unwanted scarcity, which [52:14.320 --> 52:21.060] future miner rewards. The block reward in Monero will never be less than zero in Monero per minute, [52:21.060 --> 52:26.760] and we call this the tail emission. Why do we have this? It is to guarantee miner incentives [52:26.760 --> 52:35.260] perpetuity. So, in Monero, we do not have to worry about miners in the far future having no [52:35.260 --> 52:41.360] incentive to connect their computers, spend money on electricity, devote time of their computing [52:41.360 --> 52:46.640] power to help the Monero network, that those people will be disincentivized to join because [52:46.640 --> 52:52.740] getting offered an insufficient reward in terms of the block reward. Now, this unfortunately gets [52:52.740 --> 52:57.920] portrayed as being infinite inflation by people who have not either thought this through, or they [52:57.920 --> 53:03.920] might have a vested interest in portraying it that way. But in Monero, if you think about [53:03.920 --> 53:09.020] linear inflation, which is the case in Monero, the block reward flow will never go below 0.3 [53:09.020 --> 53:14.680] Monero per minute. In fact, it will be 0.3 Monero per minute starting in a short time, like a year [53:14.680 --> 53:20.380] or so. So, if you think of that as a linear rate of inflation, every year there's going to be a [53:20.380 --> 53:25.620] fixed rate of Monero that gets added. If you think of what is the impact on the inflation rate, [53:25.620 --> 53:31.580] the inflation rate is going to be going to zero asymptotically. So over time, the inflation rate [53:31.580 --> 53:36.520] in Monero will get lower and lower and lower, and continuously be going towards zero, but never [53:36.520 --> 53:41.280] actually touch zero. And this is in contrast to the situation in Bitcoin, which will have [53:41.280 --> 53:46.180] equally zero, identically zero inflation in about 100 years time. [53:46.880 --> 53:55.720] So the distinction though between asymptotically zero inflation versus identically zero inflation [53:55.720 --> 54:00.160] is really irrelevant from the point of macroeconomic. If you look at any macroeconomic [54:00.160 --> 54:06.120] theory of money supply, even variable is the percentage of monetary growth per year. It's [54:06.980 --> 54:13.880] a percentage rate. He cares that the supply of U.S. dollars is going up by however trillions per [54:13.880 --> 54:20.140] year. You have to normalize that by the existing monies. It's the percentage inflation rate that [54:20.140 --> 54:26.820] has any impact on macroeconomic theory. And so the reality of the situation is that far from being [54:26.820 --> 54:33.960] quote unquote infinitely inflating, the inflation rate of Monero is asymptotically zero in contrast [54:33.960 --> 54:41.020] to Bitcoin, identically zero. And that distinction is totally irrelevant from the point of view of [54:41.020 --> 54:46.980] macroeconomic theory. From the point of macroeconomic theory, they're both zero. [54:48.380 --> 54:52.240] Here is showing what I'm talking about. So this is supply emission. So you're seeing [54:52.920 --> 54:59.520] to the left of the present, you are seeing actual data. So for the Bitcoin blockchain, [54:59.520 --> 55:05.360] this is the actual number of Bitcoin inflation historically taken from blockchain.com. And for [55:05.360 --> 55:10.200] Monero, what you're seeing is actual data from the Monero blockchain taken from the CLI client [55:10.200 --> 55:18.520] as very helpful utilities to glean like system level data on things on the blockchain within [55:18.520 --> 55:27.540] Monero. To the right, you see in faint color, the future projection, how much Bitcoin there will be [55:27.540 --> 55:32.480] over time, how much Monero there will be over time. So again, this is like a cool thing about [55:32.480 --> 55:36.440] cryptocurrencies, at least the ones that are legitimately set up to not be just a money [55:36.440 --> 55:41.960] on the part of people who create them. For legitimate decentralized cryptocurrencies, [55:41.960 --> 55:49.480] like Bitcoin and Monero, the emission schedule is designed in advance. And so you can kind of count [55:49.480 --> 55:54.620] on that there is a, of course, nobody can predict the future with uncertainty, like maybe the [55:54.620 --> 56:01.040] emission will not match these curves. But on the same time, you have an over 10 year history [56:01.040 --> 56:05.220] of matching between what actually happened on the blockchain and what was supposed to happen [56:05.220 --> 56:11.140] on the blockchain. That is due to the cooperation of this globally decentralized network by the [56:11.140 --> 56:20.940] rules. Next, if you look at Euro supply inflation, there's a really sobering curve to look at here [56:20.940 --> 56:25.960] with the dollar. Again, we're looking at the money zero maturity curve. We're seeing that [56:25.960 --> 56:34.100] post pandemic, there's been an over 30%, not over, almost 30% inflation in the supply of US dollars [56:34.100 --> 56:39.800] since then. So I'm taking the supply of the money now versus the supply of the money a year ago. [56:40.340 --> 56:46.780] And you can see that it's truly spiked to a kind of scary level since the pandemic. [56:47.440 --> 56:51.580] You can contrast this to the legit cryptocurrencies, Bitcoin and Binair, [56:51.580 --> 56:56.120] in which in the past, the inflation rate of both of these currents been very high. [56:56.120 --> 57:01.020] That is in order to get these coins out there to get, you're launching a new money. So we want to [57:01.020 --> 57:06.000] get these coins out there, get them into circulation. And also incentivize miners to [57:06.000 --> 57:12.220] get in kind of to join this network early to get in and help out like this fledgling new network. [57:12.280 --> 57:16.460] So as a result, in the past, inflation rates within cryptocurrency have been very high. [57:16.780 --> 57:21.300] You see, we're coming up on a new era of scarcity here. Bitcoin and Monero, [57:21.300 --> 57:27.100] both having year over year inflates that are on the order of 3%. And by the end of 2020, [57:27.100 --> 57:31.260] well, or if you look at a year from now, the inflation rates of Bitcoin and Monero will [57:31.260 --> 57:37.520] actually be lower than that. So the world gold council keeps track of its estimate of how much [57:37.520 --> 57:42.160] gold there is above in the world. And it's been doing this estimate for about 10 years now. [57:42.160 --> 57:47.360] You plot this inflation rate, which is the inflation rate of the gold supply that has [57:47.360 --> 57:53.360] been mined and refined and turned into bullion. So basically, this is the rate of gold bullion, [57:53.360 --> 58:00.520] right? And that ends up being an average of about 1.8% per year. Also, as an interesting aside, [58:00.520 --> 58:05.560] take this data from the world gold council and ask the question, is gold inflation more [58:05.560 --> 58:10.880] consistent with exponential growth or near growth? And it turns out significantly, it's more [58:11.740 --> 58:17.600] correlated like the, like an exponential fits the growth of the gold inflation better than [58:17.600 --> 58:24.500] the growth curve. So this is truly, it's more supported data, the past data to say that [58:24.500 --> 58:28.840] gold is growing all exponentially, just at a slower rate at about 1.8% per year. [58:28.840 --> 58:33.940] So if you think of gold as money, and most people kind of view gold as the first thing they think of [58:33.940 --> 58:38.660] when they use the phrase sound money, that was a line in the sand. So there's basically this 1% [58:38.660 --> 58:43.700] per year line in the sand where anything to the left of that is going to be a candidate for [58:43.700 --> 58:49.120] money. Anything to the right of that is going to be maybe more suspect in terms of a form of [58:49.120 --> 58:54.880] store of value. And you can see that again, the future of Bitcoin and Monero, that the inflation [58:54.880 --> 59:01.120] rate is very soon going to blow that of gold, which would, I would say, qualify both of the [59:01.120 --> 59:08.780] candidates for being sound money. All right, there's another unwanted form of scarcity I [59:08.780 --> 59:13.580] wanted to, that is that of mining hardware. So in the Bitcoin white paper, there's a phrase will be [59:13.580 --> 59:18.620] you one vote. And what that means is that the idea, when a computer joins the mining network, [59:18.620 --> 59:22.500] is that probability of getting a block reward should be roughly proportional to the [59:23.060 --> 59:31.500] to the resources that they have dedicated towards helping the network. So in other words, [59:31.500 --> 59:35.600] you put 10 computers on the network to help and you should get 10 times the reward of somebody [59:35.600 --> 59:41.400] who only put one computer on the Bitcoin network. So this is fine as long as all different types of [59:41.400 --> 59:46.660] computing device equally efficient at the mining algorithm. Fortunately, the economics of silicon [59:46.660 --> 59:53.680] development is linearity. So in Bitcoin, mining algorithm is simple enough that it is possible [59:53.680 --> 59:59.660] to design a custom piece of silicon that does nothing but mine for Bitcoin. The end result is [59:59.660 --> 01:00:08.240] that you have, you know, $50 million to invest in a fabrication facility in Shenzhen. Then it's [01:00:08.240 --> 01:00:13.060] possible for you to take that $50 million investment and develop with, you know, PhD [01:00:13.060 --> 01:00:18.460] electrical engineers, a custom piece of silicon that does nothing but mine Bitcoin. A whole bunch [01:00:18.460 --> 01:00:24.100] of those, you print out a whole bunch of those with your silicon fab. And now you have a specialized [01:00:24.100 --> 01:00:29.500] army of computers, which you can then use to connect to the Bitcoin network and have an [01:00:29.500 --> 01:00:36.400] advantage over all these others on the network who are using their Intel or AMD CPUs that are [01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:42.080] not optimized to do the Bitcoin proof of work and therefore are at a disadvantage. These little guys [01:00:42.080 --> 01:00:49.380] who are running their little CPUs now are spending much more on electricity per hash in Bitcoin [01:00:49.380 --> 01:00:54.880] than you are with your custom piece of silicon. So this situation has been happening many years now in [01:00:54.880 --> 01:01:01.120] the Bitcoin network. And we're at a point now, Bitcoin mining is now a Chinese dominated oligopoly. [01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:06.160] It's not necessarily a problem that it's China that has mining power. It is a problem that it's [01:01:06.160 --> 01:01:11.460] central. It's all in one region of the world. It's dominated by just a few people. One company [01:01:11.460 --> 01:01:17.860] that is on top of this oligopoly. And it's actually arguably still an oligopoly. It's [01:01:17.860 --> 01:01:22.960] moving towards monopoly status. So in the Monero community, we've looked at this and we've tried [01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:29.840] to avoid this, having this situation in Monero. And what we've done is we've adjusted the proof [01:01:29.840 --> 01:01:35.480] of work algorithm and evolved it to keep small indent miners viable. So unlike the situation [01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:40.340] in Bitcoin, where the guy with just a little, you know, gaming PC that they want to, you know, [01:01:40.340 --> 01:01:45.500] run overnight while weeping and they want to put that on the Bitcoin network. Well, somebody who [01:01:45.500 --> 01:01:49.760] does that on Bitcoin, you're wasting your power because your chance of getting a block on one [01:01:49.760 --> 01:01:56.900] with a CPU, it's like you have a better chance of a lotto, the Powerball. It'd be a better spend of [01:01:56.900 --> 01:02:02.400] your money to go buy a lottery ticket to increase your power bill by putting your suit on the [01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:08.040] Bitcoin network. That is not true in Monero. The math of the mining might, you know, it goes up [01:02:08.040 --> 01:02:15.020] and down. It might not be like a net positive for just to put their computer on the Monero network, [01:02:15.020 --> 01:02:21.340] but you have a magnitude higher chance of getting a payout by mining on Monero, a little guy with [01:02:21.340 --> 01:02:27.060] commodity hardware due in Bitcoin. So to make this proof of work has in Monero changed actually [01:02:27.060 --> 01:02:33.180] four times in 2018. And each of these proof of work changes has required a hard, hard forks [01:02:33.180 --> 01:02:38.980] or something that you never see in Bitcoin. There have been, you know, there's been a decision [01:02:38.980 --> 01:02:46.480] that hard forks in Bitcoin's core, in Bitcoin's, yeah, in Bitcoin core are not to be targeted because [01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:51.700] they want to preserve backwards capability. They want miners who don't bother to [01:02:51.700 --> 01:02:57.500] update their software to still be part of the network. Okay, well, I mean, that's their decision. [01:02:57.500 --> 01:03:02.880] It means that something like what we've done in Monero, which is to dynamically play this game [01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:10.020] with ASIC miners or ASIC manufacturers to reduce their impact on the Monero system, you could play [01:03:10.020 --> 01:03:14.400] that game if you are tying your hands behind your back and saying you're not going to accept hard forks. [01:03:15.500 --> 01:03:20.600] So here is data from the Monero blockchain that is shown talking about. So what I'm showing is [01:03:20.600 --> 01:03:26.560] since the invention of Monero in 2014, April 2014 is when Monero started, about five years [01:03:26.560 --> 01:03:33.860] ago. But since 2014, it's been running for over six years now. So Monero has a demonstrated [01:03:33.860 --> 01:03:39.360] track record of over six years of operation. So initially, the proof of work algorithm was [01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:44.300] Kryptonite, which defined in the Kryptonite white paper. But as you see, in late 2017, [01:03:44.300 --> 01:03:49.480] there's to be a increase in the network. And what this means is that all of a sudden, [01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:53.980] the Monero network was seeing a whole bunch of extra computing power to its mining network. [01:03:53.980 --> 01:03:59.820] And this was interpreted as being ASICs. ASICs were in other words, people had figured out [01:03:59.820 --> 01:04:03.900] Monero's proof of work and then designed a custom people can to do nothing but that, [01:04:03.900 --> 01:04:08.680] then plug it in. And once they get into the Monero network, they were receiving the lion's share [01:04:08.680 --> 01:04:14.620] of rewards to the detriment of the, you know, little guys out there who were just trying to [01:04:14.620 --> 01:04:20.920] run Monero on their single little, you know, commodity hardware rig. So there was a lot of [01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:24.780] alarm and just got this in the Monero community. And as a result of this, [01:04:24.780 --> 01:04:29.500] 0.12 came out of Monero, which introduced Kryptonite v2, which variant, you know, [01:04:29.500 --> 01:04:34.760] it was just a couple numbers in Kryptonite. But it was enough to render the currently existing [01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:39.180] ASICs operable on the old network. And so you can see when that went live on the network, [01:04:39.180 --> 01:04:43.480] and again, that required a hard fork, which means it acquired the cooperation of the Monero community [01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:49.620] to other nodes to run Kryptonite v2 as the new perk. And that happened. After that happened, [01:04:49.620 --> 01:04:55.960] you can see the different nodes dived back down. So again, you had small miners with [01:04:55.960 --> 01:05:02.760] commodity hardware being able to mine. Then a few months later, ASICs came onto the network. [01:05:02.780 --> 01:05:08.440] So there's a lead time of several months that ASIC makers to introduce a new piece of silicon to [01:05:09.260 --> 01:05:15.440] fruition. So that happened again. ASICs, again, spiked the difficulty level of the Monero network. [01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:20.240] Again, we changed the proof of work to Kryptonite v3. It happened again in 2008, [01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:25.080] a third time ASICs on the network. And then we came up with Kryptonite. So now we're changing [01:05:25.080 --> 01:05:30.680] the proof of work in bigger and bigger increments. So Kryptonite introduced a random code execution [01:05:30.680 --> 01:05:35.960] aspect. And for then several months, there was apparently no reaction from the ASICs, [01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:40.340] because they also knew that the Monero community, what it said, when it said, [01:05:40.340 --> 01:05:44.900] we didn't want ASICs on the network, and we were going to try to evolve to prevent that. [01:05:44.900 --> 01:05:52.540] So finally, in v0.15, RandomX became the proof of RandomX is now a, it does fully random code [01:05:52.540 --> 01:06:00.060] execution as its proof of work. And ASIC that is most eyes to do RandomX, as it turns out, [01:06:00.060 --> 01:06:06.960] is Ryzen Threadripper CPU that you can buy on Amazon. It's not a custom Bitcoin miner that [01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:12.600] you have to go on the express or, you know, have have connection then to be able to get [01:06:12.600 --> 01:06:19.080] in a timely manner. So since that CPUs have been healthily dominating the network, and [01:06:19.080 --> 01:06:26.040] all signs are so far that that has been working. And, but this is a testament to the length to [01:06:26.040 --> 01:06:29.880] which you need flexibility in your protocol deal with these sorts of things. This is, [01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:35.440] this is network security software and network security is always changing. And so to, to have [01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:40.060] a attitude like we have in the Monero community, that hard forks are going to be necessary from [01:06:40.060 --> 01:06:45.640] time to time to new improvements. And unfortunately, the nodes in the mining network [01:06:45.640 --> 01:06:51.060] that fail to upgrade their computers, or they're just, they just gonna, they're going to miss the [01:06:51.060 --> 01:06:55.740] train. I mean, this is a moving train, there's new technology going, and they're going to miss it. [01:06:55.740 --> 01:07:01.220] And so that's the decision that's been made in Monero, or it's been working. There's another [01:07:01.220 --> 01:07:05.480] form of unwanted scarcity and that access to layer one. So Bitcoin's one megabyte block limit [01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:11.100] has caused a project. There was a line of code in the Bitcoin code base that Satoshi [01:07:11.100 --> 01:07:17.160] has a spam prevention measure. So the network was going to end in the early days of Bitcoin. So [01:07:17.160 --> 01:07:24.640] Satoshi wrote that the maximum size of a new block could only make a byte. And so the question, [01:07:24.640 --> 01:07:29.520] you know, should we move this came up several years ago when interest in the Bitcoin was growing [01:07:29.520 --> 01:07:35.020] and the transactions were growing and coming up against that one megabyte limit. So basically a [01:07:35.020 --> 01:07:39.780] civil war happened within Bitcoin to fight over whether this should be retained or not. And yes, [01:07:39.780 --> 01:07:44.960] of course, I'm well aware that one of the sides adopted SegWit, which kind of effectively [01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:49.860] increased the block limit to 1.3 megabytes. Although, you know, that extra 300 kilobytes [01:07:49.860 --> 01:07:54.980] in this big scheme of things, you know, it's like a, it's not that big. Anyway, you have one side [01:07:54.980 --> 01:07:58.840] in Bitcoin that wanted to stick with this and the other one didn't. And then the one that didn't had [01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:05.840] a further divorce. So you basically have, you know, a lot of animosity in the larger Bitcoin [01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:11.300] community using, when I group all the forks together, it's not really a key because they [01:08:11.300 --> 01:08:18.280] really don't play well together. And even though they've had a divorce and separate blockchains [01:08:18.280 --> 01:08:23.460] with separate assets at this point, there's still a lot of hate going on still to this day. If you [01:08:23.460 --> 01:08:30.220] want to join, you know, Bitcoin as a person to contribute, you have to, you know, make your [01:08:30.220 --> 01:08:35.700] loyalty very early on. Are you loyal to Bitcoin Core or Bitcoin Cash or Bitcoin SV? You have to [01:08:35.700 --> 01:08:41.820] make that decision. And once you're in, that's your, that's your camp. That's your, in Monero, [01:08:41.820 --> 01:08:46.400] there is just one team. And I think that the reason for that is that the goal of the project [01:08:46.400 --> 01:08:52.420] is more easily defined. It is to be private, digital, fungible cash that takes all of the [01:08:52.420 --> 01:08:59.460] goodness of Bitcoin that is the centralized nature. It's not having a committee or a company [01:08:59.460 --> 01:09:06.520] behind, being a totally grassroots effort, just like Bitcoin is, but add integrability to it. [01:09:07.320 --> 01:09:11.800] So in Monero, we have one adaptive block weight. It used to be called the adaptive size, but then [01:09:11.800 --> 01:09:17.000] it got, the algorithm got changed and upgraded. So the adaptive block weight. But the basic idea [01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:22.480] is that the, instead of having a hard-coded limit on the size of new blocks, in Monero, [01:09:22.480 --> 01:09:27.640] the limit is going to dynamically expand and contract to kind of organically reach that of [01:09:27.640 --> 01:09:35.240] the underlying demand for Monero transactions. So there's a disincentive that kicks in if a miner [01:09:35.240 --> 01:09:40.360] chooses to make a block that's big, but also user fees increase if the blocks are big. So [01:09:40.360 --> 01:09:46.180] if there's a lot of, if there was a sudden crash in Monero for transactions based, then there's [01:09:46.180 --> 01:09:50.480] going to be an increase in the user fees to help make up for the fact that I'm not going to be [01:09:50.480 --> 01:09:58.300] disincentivizing it, less of a reward from coin emission. So as you can see, putting the system [01:09:58.300 --> 01:10:04.800] into practice, you can see that overall the trend in Bitcoin transactions per day has been roughly, [01:10:04.800 --> 01:10:11.180] I would say for the last say five years, if you look back to say 2016, then you can see that [01:10:11.180 --> 01:10:15.220] there's been a limit here, an asymptotic limit of transactions per day that have been happening [01:10:15.220 --> 01:10:21.600] in Bitcoin. Look at the recent history of Monero, you can see basically an uptrend line here. It [01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:25.060] doesn't look like much of a trend line, but you have to, this is an exponential scale that I'm [01:10:25.060 --> 01:10:30.980] showing here on the vertical axis, which means basically in the last four years or so, between [01:10:30.980 --> 01:10:36.800] now and say 2017, so like a little under four years, there's been almost effect on increasing [01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:42.100] the transactions per day. So it's been growing. It's been organically growing. There's nothing [01:10:42.740 --> 01:10:49.380] artificially limiting growth in the Monero blockchain like an arbitrarily sized block limit. [01:10:50.660 --> 01:10:56.680] All right, so moving on then to the difference between transparency and fungibility. Bitcoin [01:10:56.680 --> 01:11:02.200] is transparent. If you are new to cryptocurrency, you have kind of read all these news articles, [01:11:02.200 --> 01:11:06.980] which of course mature the details of what's going on all the time in the popular press, [01:11:06.980 --> 01:11:12.760] you might be under the false impression that Bitcoin is a very secretive currency, that [01:11:12.760 --> 01:11:17.380] once you're trending Bitcoin, nobody knows what you're doing. Nothing could be further from the [01:11:17.380 --> 01:11:23.040] truth. It itched to get itched forever for all to see. Every transaction, you have the sender, [01:11:23.040 --> 01:11:29.220] the receiver, and the amount. Those are in plain text in every Bitcoin block specified in the [01:11:29.220 --> 01:11:33.980] Bitcoin white paper. It's all there. You can see the transaction is in plain text. Every address [01:11:33.980 --> 01:11:40.620] is encoded in the blockchain in plain text, which means it's trivial to code up what's called a [01:11:40.620 --> 01:11:45.940] block explorer. You go to these block explorers and you type in anyone's address. It doesn't have [01:11:45.940 --> 01:11:49.600] to be your address. It can be anyone in the world's Bitcoin address that you type in, [01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:54.580] and it'll instantly spit out for you how much money does that account have, [01:11:56.240 --> 01:12:01.900] who did that send money to or receive money to for its complete history, all the way back to the [01:12:01.900 --> 01:12:06.360] miner who initially mined that Bitcoin. So it's as if you have a dollar bill, and on the back of [01:12:06.360 --> 01:12:10.980] that $10 bill, you have a nice list showing everyone in history who owned that $10 bill [01:12:10.980 --> 01:12:17.200] before you. So it went to a bunch of people, then all the way back to the mint. So what possibly [01:12:17.200 --> 01:12:21.680] could be the downside consequence to a system like that? And actually, in Bitcoin, it's even [01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:26.500] worse than a piece of cash that has it on the back of it. Because at least if this list were [01:12:26.500 --> 01:12:31.140] written on paper on the currency bill, then it would be only you who could see that list at any [01:12:31.140 --> 01:12:38.060] time. But as in Bitcoin, everyone in the world has access to that complete history of every Bitcoin [01:12:38.060 --> 01:12:44.540] for every single Bitcoin in existence. This puts innocent people and businesses at risk. [01:12:45.180 --> 01:12:51.260] Not only is there the risk that key clean innocent people can become victims of crime, [01:12:51.260 --> 01:12:55.940] because it is possible for anyone in the world to look at their address and see how much money [01:12:55.940 --> 01:13:02.520] they have. And therefore, for nefarious people to assess their credits before they go after them. [01:13:02.700 --> 01:13:07.300] There's also an even more pernicious effect that putting innocent people at jeopardy [01:13:07.300 --> 01:13:13.180] is that reputation trend in Bitcoin as well as value. So because every coin is traceable back [01:13:13.180 --> 01:13:18.000] to there, this invites voyeurism. Like I mentioned, it's possible to up anyone's bank account [01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:24.160] in Bitcoin at any time. But it also promotes guilt by association. Because if you have knowledge of [01:13:24.160 --> 01:13:30.840] who sends money to who, and then somehow figure out who, like faces that correspond to these [01:13:30.840 --> 01:13:36.200] Bitcoin addresses, and furthermore, you have known, quote unquote, bad people in the network [01:13:36.200 --> 01:13:42.540] who are in transact Bitcoin, then you can connect the dots. Basically, you can come up with a [01:13:42.540 --> 01:13:48.320] hypothesis that people who have transacted coin with known bad actors are themselves [01:13:48.320 --> 01:13:54.140] more likely to be bad. So what ends up happening is that really transparent data that is in [01:13:54.140 --> 01:14:02.420] in blockchain, combined with the ever-growing mass of metadata that links specific coin addresses to [01:14:02.420 --> 01:14:08.020] the identities of names and people, that grows, you have what constitutes a social credit score [01:14:08.020 --> 01:14:13.900] within Bitcoin. So we in the West, we tend to look at this news of social credit score in China and [01:14:13.900 --> 01:14:18.800] kind of shake our heads at it and say, wow, that's just horrible that they tell this, [01:14:19.280 --> 01:14:23.980] you know, this data of who your friends are, who you choose to interact with, [01:14:23.980 --> 01:14:29.980] and then deliver consequences, either good or bad at behavior. Wow, that's just awful that they do [01:14:29.980 --> 01:14:35.740] that in China. And then people sign up for Bitcoin accounts in which the exact same is happening. [01:14:35.740 --> 01:14:40.820] So the transparency of the Bitcoin network is being used again to formulate these social credit [01:14:40.820 --> 01:14:45.580] score networks. And there are companies that specialize in nothing but this. There are chain [01:14:45.580 --> 01:14:51.880] analysis companies that will assign basically a social credit score to every Bitcoin address that [01:14:51.880 --> 01:14:59.040] exists. So there's a guilt by association that is introduced at the human level. This has nothing to do [01:14:59.040 --> 01:15:03.920] with the technical level. And so it's a reason why those people in Bitcoin who tend to see things [01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:11.460] as just technical things and ignore the social human aspect will discount this. Because, oh, well, [01:15:11.460 --> 01:15:17.120] they're censorship resistant Bitcoin. Nobody can possibly stop a Bitcoin transaction happening. [01:15:17.120 --> 01:15:21.740] Yes, that's true on a technical level. But if you have a situation where certain Bitcoin [01:15:21.740 --> 01:15:28.740] addresses are basically hot potato, they're like pariahs, they're bad people that aren't supposed [01:15:28.740 --> 01:15:34.520] to be dealt with. Then on a social level, there are consequences to certain addresses that are [01:15:34.520 --> 01:15:39.920] transacting in Bitcoin as opposed to us. So this technical censorship resistance that happens [01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:46.180] on an IP on a data sort of level gets destroyed at a human level, at the actual societal level, [01:15:46.180 --> 01:15:52.260] because the chain is completely transparent. In contrast to this, Monero is fungible. There are [01:15:52.260 --> 01:15:56.220] three technologies in Monero that combine to promote this indistinguishability. There's ring [01:15:56.220 --> 01:16:00.700] signatures that protect the sender's identity, stealth addresses that protect the receiver's [01:16:00.700 --> 01:16:06.760] identity, and RingCT that keeps the amount sent private. Now, original Monero white paper, [01:16:06.760 --> 01:16:11.120] the CryptoNote white paper, had specifications for the first two of these three technologies [01:16:11.120 --> 01:16:14.500] for rings and stealth addresses, but it did not mention RingCT. That was a new [01:16:14.500 --> 01:16:20.160] innovation that happened after Monero went live. And so, again, this is another example [01:16:20.160 --> 01:16:25.040] of the attitude within Monero, which is no compromises. We are going to do what is best [01:16:25.040 --> 01:16:29.660] to make the best fungible currency possible. That includes doing hard forks, and that includes lots [01:16:29.660 --> 01:16:35.720] of research, coming up with new stuff, and putting the best that we have out there. So [01:16:36.500 --> 01:16:41.440] RingCT required original cryptographic research on the part of a research lab. We're talking about [01:16:41.440 --> 01:16:48.860] like post-doc, PhD-level cryptography with mathematicians. We have those working with us [01:16:48.860 --> 01:16:53.720] in Monero. Furthermore, you needed coders, like developers, software developers, who could [01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:58.200] understand higher-level math that was being discussed and then put that implementation in code [01:16:59.220 --> 01:17:04.180] and also have kind of wisdom to realize that there might be bugs in this. And so maybe it'd be a good [01:17:04.180 --> 01:17:09.880] idea to pay independent parties to do an external audit of any new code that gets in Monero. That [01:17:09.880 --> 01:17:13.380] happened with Monero, and it's happened on a routine basis for all major innovations that [01:17:13.380 --> 01:17:18.080] have happened within Monero, including RingCT, and there have been four or five in the last few years. [01:17:18.300 --> 01:17:22.300] And then finally, you need a community that has a commitment to actually implementing the stuff [01:17:22.300 --> 01:17:28.260] that gets out from the research and the development phases. So you have a community of people running [01:17:28.260 --> 01:17:34.360] Monero on their own computers. They stay with the program. They have their ears to the ground. [01:17:34.360 --> 01:17:38.860] They know, they're aware that there's such a thing as RingCT coming up, and then they implement it. [01:17:38.860 --> 01:17:44.220] They do the hard work to make it happen. So this, again, is showing some data that's comparing some [01:17:44.220 --> 01:17:49.780] data between the Bitcoin and Monero blockchains to show how fungible scarcity has been made better [01:17:49.780 --> 01:17:54.160] in Monero and its history. So here on top, I'm showing the average bytes per transaction. [01:17:54.820 --> 01:18:00.420] That is, on Bitcoin, it's been pretty constant. Again, there's been this attitude in Bitcoin that [01:18:00.420 --> 01:18:05.040] be very conservative. They don't want to make many changes to the code because that there's [01:18:05.240 --> 01:18:10.340] a whole lot of money being entrusted on their network. Whereas, of course, if you look on a [01:18:11.380 --> 01:18:16.340] global scale, you zoom out a little bit, you know that Bitcoin is just like a tiny, [01:18:16.340 --> 01:18:25.480] bug-sized in a land of dinosaurs. The existing fiat monetary infrastructure dwarfs Bitcoin. [01:18:25.480 --> 01:18:32.940] And so one can question whether the attitude of, oh, we are trusted with such a huge amount of [01:18:32.940 --> 01:18:37.980] money. We have to be super conservative and not introduce anything that could rock the boat. [01:18:37.980 --> 01:18:41.480] Is that really the right attitude to take for something that is an upstart? [01:18:41.920 --> 01:18:46.040] Nevertheless, that's been the kind of ethos within Bitcoin. And you can see that the daily [01:18:46.040 --> 01:18:50.880] average byte per transaction is pretty constant over time, over its history. In contrast with [01:18:50.880 --> 01:18:58.620] Monero, it's been quite a bit of a story that is encoded in this that shows the size in bytes of [01:18:58.620 --> 01:19:03.240] average trend in Monero. In the early days of Monero, there were limited outputs. And what [01:19:03.240 --> 01:19:08.260] that means is you can envision there's like a one Monero, a two Monero chunk, a three Monero chunk, [01:19:08.260 --> 01:19:14.520] and tens, 10, 20, 30, 100, 200, 300, and then going the other way, so 0.1s or 0.2s or 0.3s. [01:19:14.520 --> 01:19:21.400] There are these discrete units, little globs of Monero that were used as kind of the nugget of [01:19:21.400 --> 01:19:27.620] the money supply. So if somebody in the early days of Monero to send, say, 123 Monero to somebody, [01:19:27.620 --> 01:19:32.440] then you would have to come up, round around in your wallet, in your cryptocurrency wallet, [01:19:32.440 --> 01:19:37.840] to come up 100 Monero bill, a 20 Monero bill, and a three Monero, and put those together, [01:19:37.840 --> 01:19:41.400] and then make a transaction that would send those out to the desired recipient. [01:19:41.880 --> 01:19:47.220] There are problems with this because one could see in those early days of Monero that a 100 [01:19:47.220 --> 01:19:52.800] unit got sent, a 20 Monero unit, and a three unit Monero, like the values of those denominators [01:19:52.800 --> 01:20:00.940] all were seen. So if somebody did a 123 Monero, and then three days later another trend showed up [01:20:00.940 --> 01:20:09.100] that also moved 123 Monero, then you could have a pretty educated guess that those two transactions [01:20:09.100 --> 01:20:15.720] were related somehow. So when RingCT came out and it was researched, it was quickly enabled, [01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:22.020] even though it wasn't, that the transaction size would inflate by order of magnitude. So when RingCT [01:20:22.020 --> 01:20:26.760] was enabled, you can see here in early 2017, it was enabled and not mandated, and yet you see that the [01:20:26.760 --> 01:20:31.240] transaction sizes jumped way up, and that is because people in the Monero community actually [01:20:31.240 --> 01:20:38.160] did tend to use RingCT because it was a better technology. Then in 2017 RingCT became [01:20:38.160 --> 01:20:43.960] mandatory. So you could see that there's this situation for about two years, almost two years, [01:20:43.960 --> 01:20:49.660] in which transactions in Monero were almost three orders of magnitude larger than in Bitcoin. So you saw [01:20:49.780 --> 01:20:55.820] a lot of chatter in the crypto Twitter and the crypto press that Monero transactions [01:20:55.820 --> 01:21:01.120] are gigantic and how could you possibly scale this kind of system. And you still see [01:21:01.120 --> 01:21:07.480] objections to this to this day. Even this problem was mitigated to a large extent late 2018 when [01:21:07.480 --> 01:21:12.180] Bulletproofs came around. Bulletproof was a new cryptographic advance that the Monero research [01:21:12.180 --> 01:21:18.380] left with, and again it went through the same process of coding, external audit, and after the [01:21:18.380 --> 01:21:24.220] audit came back by several independent audits that the code was legit, the research was legit, [01:21:24.220 --> 01:21:28.780] it went into the Monero network, and you can see the effect of Bulletproofs was to reduce the [01:21:28.780 --> 01:21:34.020] transaction size of RingCT transactions by more than an order of magnitude, while keeping the [01:21:34.020 --> 01:21:39.280] same cryptographic guarantee that the sum of the inputs was the sum of the outputs. [01:21:40.700 --> 01:21:48.540] Okay, so at that point then the transaction size went down, and as you can see in Monero, [01:21:48.540 --> 01:21:53.380] since the transaction fee is a function of transaction size, the transaction fee also [01:21:53.380 --> 01:21:58.860] took an order of magnitude reduction in late 2018 when Bulletproofs went live on the system. [01:21:58.860 --> 01:22:04.840] So you can see since, you know, fall of 2018, transactions on Monero have been at the one penny [01:22:04.840 --> 01:22:11.260] level instead of the the dollars level. And coming up in Monero, there's even more research [01:22:11.260 --> 01:22:15.100] coming down the pipeline. That's CLs, which is a new innovation, it's a new optimization [01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:20.700] that was noted by Dr. Soren Noether of the Monero Research Lab, in which he noticed that there was [01:22:20.820 --> 01:22:27.100] a further efficiency gained for zero, for a negative computational cost, and if space being [01:22:27.100 --> 01:22:32.860] taken up retroactively for even trends that have happened in the past. So what we're going to see [01:22:32.860 --> 01:22:37.980] when CL sags in October 2020, and again CL sags went through the same audit process, there was an [01:22:37.980 --> 01:22:43.360] external audit process that just completed, actually which my consulting was, had the [01:22:43.860 --> 01:22:49.920] pleasure of contributing to financially. After that audit came back positive, now it is set, [01:22:49.920 --> 01:22:54.880] it is being worked on for inclusion in the Monero hard fork coming up on mid-October of this year. [01:22:54.880 --> 01:22:58.300] And once that happens, you're going to see daily average bytes per transaction. [01:22:58.840 --> 01:23:04.340] Step down. It's a more modest step down than bullet, but you can see that the direction is [01:23:04.340 --> 01:23:09.420] that the transaction size between Monero and Bitcoin is shrinking. It's shrinking that's due [01:23:09.420 --> 01:23:17.120] to sustained effort on the part of the Monero community to not only recognize innovation, [01:23:17.120 --> 01:23:21.160] but also support its development, actually implement the innovation when it comes through. [01:23:22.360 --> 01:23:27.300] All right, there's a Nobel Prize winning paper in the used car market that I talk about, because [01:23:27.300 --> 01:23:35.580] this really hits home why it is that key clean people need Monero. People with nothing to hide [01:23:35.580 --> 01:23:41.420] actually need Monero. And the basis comes from this paper from the 1970s from George A. Kellogg, [01:23:41.420 --> 01:23:45.480] again won the Nobel Prize in economics for this insight, on asymmetric information. [01:23:46.160 --> 01:23:50.740] So here's what his paper talks about, the used car market. Now there are two types of used cars [01:23:50.740 --> 01:23:55.740] in this paper. There are lemons, lemons are the bad cars which break down and nobody wants to [01:23:55.740 --> 01:24:00.900] own them like those who are involved in a flood or hurricane or something like that. Now they're, [01:24:00.900 --> 01:24:06.980] you know, problem cars. On the other hand, peaches, peaches are the good used cars, which were taken [01:24:06.980 --> 01:24:12.400] care of by their owners. Now sellers, which type of car they have, they know whether they're selling [01:24:12.540 --> 01:24:16.780] a lemon, and they know if they're selling a peach. You know, if your car has been involved [01:24:16.780 --> 01:24:21.260] in a hurricane, know that you will have seen your car sitting in four feet of water. And now you [01:24:21.260 --> 01:24:25.600] decide that you want to try and sell your car because it's been in four feet of water. So but [01:24:25.600 --> 01:24:29.700] before you do that, you make sure that the paint job on your car is extra shiny and clean because [01:24:29.700 --> 01:24:35.760] you want it to superficial look good. Superficial good looks are also going to be there for the [01:24:35.760 --> 01:24:40.780] peach seller. But in contrast to the lemon seller, the peach seller has been busy, you know, keeping [01:24:40.780 --> 01:24:45.400] their car in a garage and doing the oil changes all the time and so on. They've been taking, [01:24:45.400 --> 01:24:51.180] you know, top care of their car. Now buyers come to this market and they can't sell apart lemons [01:24:51.180 --> 01:24:57.200] from peaches. But they know that they're ignorant. They know there are both bad cars in the market [01:24:57.200 --> 01:25:02.060] and there are good cars in the market. And there is a probability that as a used car buyer, you [01:25:02.060 --> 01:25:06.940] are going to end up with a lemon. You'll do everything you can to try to reduce your level [01:25:06.940 --> 01:25:12.760] of ignorance to, you know, the condition of any given used car. But at the end of the day, you [01:25:12.760 --> 01:25:18.280] don't know what happened to that car before you owned it. So you have to, you can't discount the [01:25:18.280 --> 01:25:22.860] probability that you're going to get a lemon. So what is a buyer going to do when they faced with [01:25:22.860 --> 01:25:28.740] this situation, when they are relatively ignorant with the buyer as to the condition of the goods [01:25:28.740 --> 01:25:34.680] that they're buying? The buyer is going to make an offer price for the purchase of a car, and that's [01:25:34.680 --> 01:25:39.560] going to be equal to the lemon price. Because after all, the lemon price is the minimum price a car [01:25:39.560 --> 01:25:43.920] could be worth. So they're going to offer at least that. And then on top of that, they're going to [01:25:43.920 --> 01:25:50.080] offer a bit more. And the bit more part is going to be contingent on what the buyer perceives as [01:25:50.080 --> 01:25:55.100] being the probability that the buyer is going up with a peach or a lemon. So here, offer price [01:25:55.100 --> 01:26:01.460] equals lemon price plus the perceived peach probability or likelihood multiplied by the [01:26:01.460 --> 01:26:06.020] price difference between a peach and a lemon. So if you think there's a 100% chance that you're [01:26:06.020 --> 01:26:09.620] going to get a lemon, you're going to offer the lemon price. If there's a 100% chance that you're [01:26:09.620 --> 01:26:15.140] going to get a peach, you would offer the lemon price plus the peach price minus the lemon, which ends up being [01:26:15.140 --> 01:26:20.540] the peach price. And then if you have a probability of getting a peach that's less than a percent, [01:26:20.540 --> 01:26:24.540] then you adjust your price accordingly. This is just very rational. It's what a rational do [01:26:24.540 --> 01:26:30.580] when faced with a probability of getting something of inferior quality, and they are ignorant as to [01:26:30.580 --> 01:26:33.860] which they're going to get, but know that there's a probability that they're going to get either a [01:26:33.860 --> 01:26:39.340] good one or a bad one. So now let's offer that's coming from the buyer and look at it from the [01:26:39.340 --> 01:26:42.500] seller's point of view. And again, there are two types of sellers. There are lemon sellers and [01:26:42.500 --> 01:26:46.160] there are peach sellers. The lemon sellers are going to look at this offer and they're going to say, [01:26:46.160 --> 01:26:54.280] wow, this sucker here is offering me almost a peach price because they think that there's a [01:26:54.280 --> 01:27:00.620] 90% chance they're going to get a peach. I'm selling them my lemon. So let me act like I'm [01:27:00.620 --> 01:27:05.480] going to hum in high and be very on the fence about this, but on the inside, I'm jumping with [01:27:05.480 --> 01:27:11.000] joy because I'm about to dump lemon and sell it to this sucker who is on me almost a peach price [01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:15.620] for it. So basically when this offer is to a lemon seller, they say, okay, offer accepted. [01:27:16.060 --> 01:27:21.680] That same offer when heard by the ears of a peach seller is not quite attractive. [01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:26.360] So basically the peach seller has been doing all the maintenance, all the work to keep their car [01:27:26.360 --> 01:27:33.760] nice and clean. And here comes this idiot, this greedy buyer who is too stupid to understand [01:27:33.760 --> 01:27:42.540] that this peach is selling a pre-moped. It is worth every penny that is being advertised for, [01:27:42.540 --> 01:27:48.780] which is the peach price. And yet this guy comes to you and in spite of all of the evidence [01:27:48.780 --> 01:27:53.080] that you provide, been doing a great job of upkeeping that car, you still get lulled because [01:27:53.080 --> 01:27:57.160] they're still afraid that they're going to get a lemon. So the tendency is for sellers to say, [01:27:57.160 --> 01:28:01.480] no, thanks. I am not going to accept your offer. I'm going to keep my used car because it's worth [01:28:01.480 --> 01:28:06.040] quite a bit to me. I'll just drive until it, you know, until it stops working. And in fact, [01:28:06.040 --> 01:28:10.520] that's what you see in real life. Peach sellers disengage from the used car market. [01:28:10.640 --> 01:28:16.760] And what happens when the peach sellers disengage from the market is that now the fraction of lemons [01:28:16.760 --> 01:28:23.060] being sold goes up. Because the fraction of lemons now is higher than it used to be, [01:28:23.060 --> 01:28:28.960] the buyers get wind of that, wise to that fact. And when they adjust their probability of getting [01:28:29.220 --> 01:28:34.680] a lemon to be higher, now they're going to lower offer price. And so the key insight of the [01:28:34.680 --> 01:28:38.600] paper is that you have this race to the bottom. You have the situation of a negative feedback [01:28:38.600 --> 01:28:42.900] loop in which the people buying used cars, because of ignorance, because of their fear of getting [01:28:42.900 --> 01:28:48.680] burned, they are going to continually lower their offer price as more and more evidence comes in, [01:28:48.680 --> 01:28:54.960] that it's only lemons that there are likely to buy in the market. Meanwhile, as the offer price [01:28:54.960 --> 01:29:00.360] going down and down and down, the peach sellers become even more likely to leave the market. [01:29:00.360 --> 01:29:06.400] As buyers are increasingly unwilling to pay a peach price they know to be a peach, the peach [01:29:06.400 --> 01:29:10.340] sellers are going to disengage from that market and withdraw from it and keep there. They're just [01:29:10.340 --> 01:29:15.360] not going to participate in that market. So this conclusion in the Akerlof paper that what [01:29:15.360 --> 01:29:22.540] you end up with is a market of used cars 100% lemons. Let's look at this and apply it to two [01:29:22.540 --> 01:29:28.940] applications. So first is DEF CON safe mode, what we're doing right now. So if you think of used car [01:29:28.940 --> 01:29:32.640] status, you think of the used car market, and instead of the car market now we're going to have [01:29:32.640 --> 01:29:40.360] the market for social interaction, right? So a healthy person is a peach. A healthy person is [01:29:40.360 --> 01:29:45.840] faced with this decision of wanting to go to DEF CON this year and have a sweet time because it's [01:29:45.840 --> 01:29:51.020] this, you know, the geeks taking over Las Vegas for a few days and that is just super cool because [01:29:51.020 --> 01:29:55.880] usually it's not geek taking over Las Vegas. And you know, I want to go and I want to make new [01:29:55.880 --> 01:30:00.240] friends. I want people who are into the same stuff I am. I want to learn about new stuff I hadn't [01:30:00.240 --> 01:30:05.580] known about before. That's a graceful marketplace that I in the past have been to get into. That's [01:30:05.580 --> 01:30:09.360] the social marketplace that we're talking about instead of the used car market. And you as a [01:30:09.360 --> 01:30:15.000] healthy person, you are a peach seller. You have a healthy body so that's like a peach, right? [01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:20.380] What is your chance of returning home from DEF CON having bought a lemon? That is, what is your [01:30:20.380 --> 01:30:26.520] chance of going to DEF CON and then come back home having contracted a virus that spread around [01:30:26.520 --> 01:30:32.340] in a global pandemic? It's a probability that you have to assess. And just like the buyer in the [01:30:32.340 --> 01:30:37.280] used car market, there's a lot of unseen behind that probability assessment. There's a lot of [01:30:37.280 --> 01:30:41.720] subsidy, you know, different people will come to different conclusions on what that probability is [01:30:41.720 --> 01:30:47.220] and different people come to different conclusions on the negative kind of value of the consequence [01:30:47.220 --> 01:30:53.420] if you do end up with a lemon, right? But the end result is that in the marketplace of social [01:30:53.420 --> 01:30:59.720] interaction, just like in the used market, there is now high uncertainty as to what the value is of [01:30:59.720 --> 01:31:04.680] the social interaction product that you're buying convention. What is the value of that? It could be [01:31:04.680 --> 01:31:09.680] positive like it has been in most DEF CONs where you come from DEF CON with a lot of new friends [01:31:09.680 --> 01:31:15.540] and a lot of new knowledge or be highly negative because you come home with the same knowledge and [01:31:15.540 --> 01:31:22.760] stuff but with the virus. So that kind of dampens the value of the fun geeky fun you had during [01:31:22.760 --> 01:31:29.960] DEF CON. So in that situation, it is a rational decision for a peter, in other words, a healthy [01:31:29.960 --> 01:31:35.620] person to decide not to interact with the marketplace for social interaction, at least [01:31:35.620 --> 01:31:42.160] for this year. And thus you have DEF CON safe mode. By this to transparency coins or surveillance [01:31:42.160 --> 01:31:47.840] coins as I like to call them. So these are coins such as in which the complete history of who owned [01:31:47.840 --> 01:31:53.920] what is known to everybody. And because of this, there is this unfortunate tendency for people [01:31:53.920 --> 01:32:00.660] trying to come up with a transaction graph that draws lines from who sent money to everyone else [01:32:00.660 --> 01:32:05.800] in this in this situation. And unfortunately, they're going to come up with false positives. [01:32:05.800 --> 01:32:13.040] So let's say we have a squeaky clean person who is buying a car, choose another car example. [01:32:13.040 --> 01:32:19.220] So a clean person is buying or selling their car to somebody to a stranger. So they they [01:32:19.220 --> 01:32:26.420] advert a car on Craigslist. And then they make a deal, a stranger shows up, they have, let's say, [01:32:26.420 --> 01:32:34.200] for example, Bitcoin. And then so the car and the Bitcoin change hand. And as is, as is usual in a [01:32:34.200 --> 01:32:39.180] car transaction, as long as the whoever is selling the clean title to the car, it doesn't matter. You [01:32:39.180 --> 01:32:44.680] don't have like a deep biographical inquiry on the idea of the of the seller of the car, you don't [01:32:44.680 --> 01:32:49.580] have to go check their, you know, credit history, or they're, they're not the higher, you know, [01:32:49.580 --> 01:32:54.060] private investigator to do a background check on this seller of the car, or investigate whether [01:32:54.060 --> 01:32:58.680] they got enough as a child, and are likely to be a, you know, a sociopath. Now, you don't kill that [01:32:58.680 --> 01:33:03.540] you just know that they have clean title to a car. And so Bitcoin and a clean title to a car now [01:33:03.540 --> 01:33:08.640] changed. Unbeknownst to the squeaky clean person in this transaction, the other person in the [01:33:08.640 --> 01:33:14.040] transaction, the counterparty was a bad actor. And so now as a result of there's a Bitcoin [01:33:14.040 --> 01:33:19.280] transaction that has taken place between squeaky clean and bad person. Now the people are doing [01:33:19.280 --> 01:33:24.220] blockchain analysis from far away from somewhere else, you know, somewhere on the other side of the [01:33:24.220 --> 01:33:30.400] world, they come to the false conclusion then that the squeaky clean person is involved in the same [01:33:30.400 --> 01:33:38.420] nefarious business that the bad person is. If they make that wrong call, do they have any bad [01:33:38.420 --> 01:33:44.680] consequence when the innocent guy gets investigated? And all of a sudden the innocent guy finds their [01:33:44.680 --> 01:33:49.980] cryptocurrency accounts being used. And maybe they get a visit from law enforcement asking, [01:33:49.980 --> 01:33:55.140] what happened to this? Why did you spend this Bitcoin? Why did you get this Bitcoin from selling? [01:33:55.140 --> 01:33:59.180] And then you try to explain that it was a car and you had no idea who this other person was. They [01:33:59.180 --> 01:34:04.920] had clean title to their car. Isn't that all you need to know? Now that misunderstanding happens. [01:34:04.920 --> 01:34:09.420] Is this analyst of the blind doing blockchain analytics? Is that analyst going to be held [01:34:09.420 --> 01:34:14.940] responsible for the disruption to the innocent person's life? No, they are not going to be held [01:34:14.940 --> 01:34:21.060] for that. The innocent person has no recourse in a situation like that. And so we have a situation [01:34:21.060 --> 01:34:27.240] that in transparent chains, squeaky clean people are now the peach owners. And they're deciding [01:34:27.240 --> 01:34:33.740] whether or not they want to interact in an ethic system that makes a social link between people who [01:34:33.740 --> 01:34:40.700] are actually extorting money for services at arm's length. And so you have a squeaky clean reputation [01:34:41.390 --> 01:34:46.400] and you are with the choice, do I want to engage with this situation, which could mix up [01:34:46.400 --> 01:34:52.380] my reputation with that of somebody else? Just like the peach seller in the Akerlof paper, your [01:34:52.920 --> 01:34:58.020] logical conclusion is going to be no. No, thank you. I would not like to take this that my good [01:34:58.020 --> 01:35:03.320] reputation is going to be besmirched due to some some analyst somewhere in the world [01:35:03.320 --> 01:35:09.520] coming up and connecting the dots in a wrong way. I am not willing to have my life suffer [01:35:09.520 --> 01:35:16.060] as a result of somebody else's social miscalculation. So that is going to be the reason why [01:35:16.800 --> 01:35:21.280] squeaky clean people are going to disengage with such a system and go to a system where their [01:35:21.280 --> 01:35:28.480] reputation protected, like in Monero. So Monero is cryptocurrency safe mode. It is what Bitcoin [01:35:28.480 --> 01:35:38.100] noobs think bot. It is sound money in safe. All right, so I have a few minutes. I'm psyched about [01:35:38.100 --> 01:35:43.200] that because usually I put out any sort of price charts is actually part of the like the [01:35:44.440 --> 01:35:48.820] ethos of Monero is that people don't talk about money. One of the great things about it is that [01:35:48.820 --> 01:35:56.220] people discourage talking about it. In time, you know, it is in a time of history in which it is [01:35:56.220 --> 01:36:03.880] prudent for people, like in my personal opinion, to consider again the likelihood that fiat currency [01:36:03.880 --> 01:36:09.980] in the future, the far future or perhaps even future, could be going through a period of [01:36:09.980 --> 01:36:15.500] inflation that the magnitude which we are not accustomed to seeing, at least in the Western [01:36:15.500 --> 01:36:22.720] world. So in that context, what is one thing that one can do to protect oneself if one has its to [01:36:22.720 --> 01:36:28.820] save in such a high inflation environment, and that is going to be to look at sources of scarcity that [01:36:28.820 --> 01:36:35.800] are not really the fiat system. And again, these are going to be things like gold. And since 2009, [01:36:35.920 --> 01:36:42.820] a couple of digital alternatives to gold, be Bitcoin and Monero. So here I'm showing how have [01:36:42.820 --> 01:36:48.520] the prices evolved since 2009, which is when the Bitcoin Y came out. And I think this is really the [01:36:48.520 --> 01:36:55.360] only price chart that anyone, most people, almost everyone should be looking at. I'd zoom into what [01:36:55.360 --> 01:36:59.700] happened to the price in the last week or the last month, or even the last year, looking at the last [01:36:59.700 --> 01:37:06.500] 11 years. And I'm looking at a vertical that is logarithmic. So we have one penny up to $10,000. [01:37:06.500 --> 01:37:13.560] So this is like, obviously, it's like a life sort of scale, and one is involved in the assets that [01:37:13.560 --> 01:37:19.920] are changing value at this rate. You hear that the traditional fiat investments have [01:37:19.920 --> 01:37:25.940] looked like basically very, they look basically like lines. And all of the drama that you see [01:37:25.940 --> 01:37:30.820] from virtual news about the stock market, you know, going up, having a super fantastic day, [01:37:30.820 --> 01:37:37.520] went up 5%, or, oh, my gosh, you know, the stock crashed yesterday and went 7%. And all these sort [01:37:37.520 --> 01:37:43.640] of alarm bells are ringing at the stock exchange. These shows like little tiny pixel-sized blips [01:37:44.180 --> 01:37:50.400] plotted on this scale, right? Similarly, with gold, gold looks pretty throughout the history. [01:37:50.400 --> 01:37:57.380] But if you look at these new digital assets, so basically, as realization sinks in, [01:37:57.380 --> 01:38:02.920] that there is something generally innovative about these assets. You have seen adoption come [01:38:02.920 --> 01:38:09.120] in at first like a hardcore geek community, but then that kind of to broaden out over time. And [01:38:09.120 --> 01:38:17.320] so you've seen this growth in the asset values. If you look at monthly returns of these various [01:38:17.320 --> 01:38:24.100] asset classes since the inception of Monero, then actually, if you might not realize this, [01:38:24.100 --> 01:38:28.640] you've only been looking at Monero prices for the last, say, year or two. But on average, [01:38:28.640 --> 01:38:34.060] average return from Monero on a monthly basis is higher than that of Bitcoin since Monero's [01:38:34.060 --> 01:38:39.380] inception. So we're talking a geometric average return of 5.2% per month versus 0.04% per month. [01:38:39.460 --> 01:38:44.300] And again, these dwarf the monthly returns that are coming from more traditional assets like gold, [01:38:44.300 --> 01:38:49.120] U.S. equities, bonds. Although that higher return in Monero has been at the expense of higher [01:38:49.120 --> 01:38:54.560] standard deviation. So there's been more knowledge up and down of Monero relative to that of Bitcoin [01:38:54.560 --> 01:39:02.260] in the past. One thing that especially intuitional investors find to be important is that of asset [01:39:02.260 --> 01:39:07.900] questions. So when putting a portfolio together of several different asset classes to look at, [01:39:07.900 --> 01:39:13.340] do the ups and downs of each of these assets, do they go up and down in concert together, [01:39:13.340 --> 01:39:18.180] or do they actually cancel each other out? And it's desirable to have things that partially [01:39:18.180 --> 01:39:23.480] each other out because then on average, your portfolio will have a lower average volatility [01:39:23.480 --> 01:39:29.020] because part of the components of your portfolio will be canceling each other out when it comes to [01:39:29.020 --> 01:39:34.000] the short-term ups and downs of it. So here I'm showing a cross-section matrix of Monero, [01:39:34.000 --> 01:39:40.340] Bitcoin, gold, stocks, and U.S. bonds. And you can see that compared to the traditional assets, [01:39:40.340 --> 01:39:45.160] that is gold, U.S. stocks, U.S. bonds, correlation, historical monthly correlation, [01:39:45.160 --> 01:39:51.000] actually these are historical weekly correlations have been very low, 0.45 for gold, 0.05 for [01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:58.560] stocks, and 0.02 for U.S. bonds. It has been somewhat correlated to Bitcoin, and I say that [01:39:58.560 --> 01:40:02.940] is primarily due to it being still early days in crypto. It's like the dot-com stuff I was [01:40:02.940 --> 01:40:08.460] talking about. People are still, I would say, ignorant as to how this stuff actually works. [01:40:08.820 --> 01:40:16.460] And rather than have a actual understanding of how, say, Bitcoin works, they use instead of a [01:40:16.460 --> 01:40:20.180] de-technical and kind of social, societal understanding of how the system actually works, [01:40:20.180 --> 01:40:24.780] use their buddy network. They say, oh, this person and that person and this person. They [01:40:24.780 --> 01:40:29.540] build an echo chamber to try and determine the validity of something because they are [01:40:29.540 --> 01:40:35.240] unable or unwilling to take the time for it to sit down and learn all these details of [01:40:35.240 --> 01:40:41.960] elliptic curves and so on. So as a result, all the currency tends to get lumped together as [01:40:41.960 --> 01:40:47.280] one kind of big asset from people unable to distinguish between legitimate projects like [01:40:47.280 --> 01:40:54.920] Bitcoin and Monero and those that are far less convincing in the decentralized flow of [01:40:54.920 --> 01:40:58.300] minor rewards that are being given out to the network. [01:40:59.740 --> 01:41:04.500] So again, the chart that I showed was showing the unit prices. So what is the price of one [01:41:04.500 --> 01:41:10.140] Bitcoin? What is the price of one ounce of gold? And so on. That made it difficult, though, in [01:41:10.140 --> 01:41:15.200] the terms of trying to figure out if crypto is currently overvalued or undervalued because [01:41:15.200 --> 01:41:21.180] it's arbitrary. An ounce is an arbitrary unit for gold. We're not talking about the price of one [01:41:21.180 --> 01:41:26.660] metric ton of gold or about the price of a gram of gold. Those are equally valid. I mean, [01:41:26.660 --> 01:41:34.220] it's just a mass that you have. So it's more, I think, instructive to consider what is the value [01:41:34.220 --> 01:41:38.620] of all the gold in the world. And let's compare the value of all the gold in the world to the [01:41:38.620 --> 01:41:43.000] value of all the Bitcoin in the world and all of Monero in the world. So here's what I'm showing [01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:49.000] here in this cap ratio chart. This is the ratio of two different cryptos, all of it, versus the [01:41:49.000 --> 01:41:53.480] value of all the gold. So there are several different times you're going to this. So, [01:41:53.480 --> 01:41:58.080] for example, for the Bitcoin curve, I have the number of Bitcoin distance at any given time. [01:41:58.180 --> 01:42:02.120] So again, as the number of Bitcoin has been growing because it's been doled out to miners [01:42:02.120 --> 01:42:07.580] as a reward, the number of coins in existence has been changing. That's a Bitcoin on the open [01:42:07.580 --> 01:42:13.460] market. The amount of gold that's been dug out of and refined into bullion, that's been changing [01:42:13.460 --> 01:42:17.540] with the World Gold Council. So I take that data and throw that in. And then the price of gold has [01:42:17.540 --> 01:42:22.500] been changing over time. So you take those four pieces of data and you get one ratio out of it. [01:42:22.500 --> 01:42:28.000] So this is the ratio of the value of all the world's Bitcoin divided by the value of all the [01:42:28.000 --> 01:42:33.560] world's gold. And you can see that it's, again, gone through the hard to believe appreciation [01:42:33.560 --> 01:42:39.960] silly days. And at the current moment, all of the world's Bitcoin is worth roughly 10% of all [01:42:39.960 --> 01:42:45.340] the world's gold. If you do the same calculation for a minute, you get a result that all the [01:42:45.340 --> 01:42:52.860] Monero is worth about one one-hundredth of all the gold in the world. It's one ten-thousandth [01:42:52.860 --> 01:42:58.940] of the value of the above ground gold in the world. Actually, this comparison of crypto versus [01:42:58.940 --> 01:43:05.320] gold is more apt for the case of Monero, because when you take a bar of gold and you flip it over, [01:43:05.320 --> 01:43:10.320] you do see a detailed list of everyone before you who owned a bar of gold going back to the [01:43:10.320 --> 01:43:17.040] found from which it came. Whereas you do see that for Bitcoin. So arguably, Monero is a pure [01:43:17.880 --> 01:43:22.080] digital replica characteristic of gold, and it's more appropriate to look at this [01:43:22.080 --> 01:43:25.400] valuation ratio for that particular pairing. [01:43:27.560 --> 01:43:33.800] All right, I think the big reason that one one common objection about Monero from people who [01:43:33.800 --> 01:43:38.100] are used to thinking about Bitcoin is that, oh, the infinite emission. So I talked about this [01:43:38.100 --> 01:43:45.580] before that the the in the so-called, quote unquote, infinite emission in Monero is number [01:43:45.580 --> 01:43:51.700] one, it's linear. And number two, it's only infinite if you consider the Monero in the [01:43:51.700 --> 01:43:56.620] limit as time goes to infinity. In other words, you you take this kind of mathematical construction [01:43:56.620 --> 01:44:01.880] of what happens to a function as x axis goes to infinity and you look at what happens to the y [01:44:01.880 --> 01:44:07.220] axis eventually. So that's a useful construction if you're to, you know, derive differential [01:44:07.220 --> 01:44:13.620] calculus. But in terms of actual people using actual money, it's irrelevant what the limit of [01:44:13.620 --> 01:44:19.160] emissions as t goes to infinity. Let me use it as an example. 100 years from today, everyone [01:44:19.160 --> 01:44:26.100] seeing this talk right now is going to be dead in 100 years. So let's look at the supply [01:44:26.100 --> 01:44:34.580] of that's in 100 years time in the year 2120. And up here is to make the point that if you put [01:44:34.580 --> 01:44:40.040] if you pick a time point in the future, you can actually calculate the expected inflation, [01:44:40.040 --> 01:44:45.320] not only of Bitcoin, but also of Monero. You'll quickly see that this so-called infinite inflation [01:44:45.320 --> 01:44:51.760] is in fact highly inaccurate. So again, let's look at the year 2120 and let's look at Bitcoin [01:44:51.760 --> 01:44:57.460] and Monero. Let's pretend that you have an investor who has as their goal, they want to [01:44:57.460 --> 01:45:03.020] own one one millionth of one of these assets, but not one one millionth of the current supply. [01:45:03.020 --> 01:45:07.780] They want to own one one millionth of the future supply in the year 2120. So how much gold are [01:45:07.780 --> 01:45:11.440] they going to have to buy now if they want to own one one millionth of all the world's gold [01:45:11.440 --> 01:45:18.660] in the year 2120? So for gold, we can extrapolate the past inflation rate of 1.8% per year. [01:45:18.660 --> 01:45:23.420] And it turns out that that very reasonable 1% per year, when you extrapolate that out to a century, [01:45:23.420 --> 01:45:27.840] it ends up being pretty significant. So if you extrapolate that 1.8% year to a century, [01:45:27.840 --> 01:45:32.820] you get a fivefold is almost sixfold increase in the expected amount of gold 2120, [01:45:32.820 --> 01:45:37.340] which means if you want to own one millionth of that to buy over a metric ton of gold, [01:45:37.340 --> 01:45:43.160] which at current prices would be worth over $77 USD. Now let's do this for Bitcoin. So we know [01:45:43.160 --> 01:45:49.360] what the current supply of Bitcoin is. And okay, hooray, the Bitcoin people, they have this figure [01:45:49.360 --> 01:45:53.220] that is extremely easy for normies to understand, which is that there's only going to ever be 21 [01:45:53.220 --> 01:45:58.260] million Bitcoin ever. So the expected supply in a century is going to be about 21 million Bitcoin. [01:45:58.440 --> 01:46:03.200] How much Bitcoin do you need to buy today, if you want to be guaranteed of having one one [01:46:03.200 --> 01:46:08.220] millionth of this source of scarcity in the year 2120? Well, you would need to buy 21 Bitcoins [01:46:08.220 --> 01:46:14.300] and current value $244,000. Let's do the same with Monero. So we know the emission of Monero [01:46:14.300 --> 01:46:20.000] from the blockchain. And also we know from L emission, which is again, 0.3 Monero per minute. [01:46:20.440 --> 01:46:27.020] Now, if you just sit down to do elementary school math and translate that per minute emission to a [01:46:27.020 --> 01:46:31.980] per centuation, you get this maybe surprising result that the number of Monero in existence [01:46:31.980 --> 01:46:38.140] in a century from now is going to be less than double that of the current supply of Monero. [01:46:38.140 --> 01:46:43.720] That is, for an inflation rate, it's pretty dang respectable. It's more than gold. [01:46:43.980 --> 01:46:49.860] And it's actually not that far off from Bitcoin. So for one to use the phrase infinite inflation [01:46:49.860 --> 01:46:56.140] and say that Monero is on the wrong side of that line, is thinking in terms of, [01:46:56.140 --> 01:47:01.640] you know, it's just not a practical real world calculation. Everyone's going to be dead in [01:47:01.640 --> 01:47:08.440] 100 years. And so why don't you know, if you use 100 years from now, the actual inflation that's [01:47:08.440 --> 01:47:13.460] going to happen in Monero during your life is far from infinite. It's actually a lot closer [01:47:13.460 --> 01:47:18.800] to the coins than you think. And so again, for Monero, if you have a goal of buying one millionth [01:47:18.800 --> 01:47:25.900] of all the Monero in the world, but the year 2120 supply, that's going to require buying 30.1 [01:47:25.900 --> 01:47:32.280] Monero or 33.6. And the market value of that is currently $3. So this is another framework for [01:47:32.280 --> 01:47:39.140] getting how relatively undervalued or overvalued these assets are in the current place. [01:47:40.800 --> 01:47:45.840] All right, so I'm out. I don't know if there's going to be time for questions. Maybe not. [01:47:45.840 --> 01:47:50.480] But thank you for listening. I hope you enjoyed this presentation. Enjoy the rest of Monero [01:47:50.480 --> 01:47:54.420] Village for the final day that it's happening. If you want to learn more, the Monero Village [01:47:54.420 --> 01:47:59.920] schedule is at monerovillage.org. For the Monero mainnet, that's getmonero.org. So [01:48:00.460 --> 01:48:05.720] important to know, getmonero.org, it's not .com. It's not just, it's getmonero.org. [01:48:05.760 --> 01:48:09.110] And if you want to get in touch with me, since there's not time for questions now, [01:48:09.680 --> 01:48:15.180] I think probably on Discord, hang out on Discord, on DefCon Discord, at least. [01:48:15.880 --> 01:48:22.600] That's my handle there is intj440. And otherwise, you can email me at danielbeatwater.consulting. [01:48:22.600 --> 01:48:25.820] And with that, I will hand it back to Justin.