But it's not just a meme competition today. Of course, it's a mean meme competition.
Best be prepared here. We have people joining in. Diego left us. We have Scott joining us.
We have VTNerd. We have, of course, the National Security Agency giving their best memes today.
So, I guess before we start, I just want to make sure that everyone is sort of set up
and ready to go to the greatest extent. And that, yeah, I guess we can have time to introduce
each other's too. This meme competition will be very similar to the meme competition that
we did for Moneroversary. So, if you saw that, you are ahead of the game. I will distribute
meme templates for all of our participants to fill. And then after they fill, I will
give a chance for the audience to vote. Instead of last time where we had a poll, I think
we're just going to do a thing where people mash their votes in the chat. And we'll see
how that goes. Because we only have 30 people watching. If we had thousands of people, then
I think a poll would work. But we can just see how many people vote for which specific
number in the chat. Among Lee and Scott, have you had a chance to review the instructions
so far?
Yeah, I read the readme. No issues. Straightforward.
All right. Perfect. That's good news. Thank you so much for joining us. Perfect timing.
Yeah, I think people are going to be excited for this meme. Because why wouldn't you? Of
course everyone is going to be excited. I am just getting everything situated on my
end because I don't have anything to help me out. This is a very complicated process.
Memes take a lot of work to get ready. I'm super high tech. I use like PowerPoint and
everything. It's crazy. Just like last time, we're using PowerPoint to arrange the memes
for people to vote on. Nothing but the best for the community here. Okay. Looks like I'm
almost situated. Vic has not joined us yet, which is odd because he destroyed us last
time. Vic will be joining us. He's probably busy sending out a tweet from the Manero memes
account, I'm sure. Sorry, not Manero memes, but the Cake Wallet account, which is basically
a meme account, too. I'm sure you're aware. So let's get everything going here. All right.
I think everything is situated on my end now. I know you're all waiting for me. I guess,
you know, if it's just... oh, Vic, perfect timing. We were waiting for you.
Sorry, I'm late.
No, it's all good. Vic, have you had a chance to log into Nextcloud and see the, you know,
see all the files that are there?
Yeah, I see nine folders.
Okay, perfect. Nine folders.
I did not peek.
You did not peek.
That's not why I'm late.
If someone does suspiciously well, you can blame it on them cheating this time. They
may have, like, they were given access to the ability to cheat this time. So hopefully
they didn't. We're going to have to trust that the Manero community is a trustworthy
bunch. Otherwise, big problem.
So, that being said, let us get started, shall we? I'll set a timer. People are sending
messages. Hey, all. Yes, Vic. So under the meme competition folder, which you're not
able to see if you are just watching a live stream, but otherwise, you can go through
under DEF CON 2020, you have a list of nine folders. I am now giving everyone permission
to open up the first folder, folder number one, and there is an image in there. I am
going to screen share this for everyone who is in the live chat. It is a meme. You have
a few minutes to... yeah, you have a few minutes to make the best thing out of this
meme that you can. All right. So I'm sharing this with YouTube. You should be able to see...
I might have to go back and forth here, of course, with my different streaming computer.
No, never mind. It does appear properly. Perfect. So, all right. So that's a meme that
you're going to be building on. You have five minutes. So let me start the timer. And then
you will put the meme in the same exact folder that you did... sorry, you'll put the meme
that you create in the same folder. Make sure you assign a random number to it. That's the
one that the participants will vote on. And then, of course, include your name so I know
who ultimately wins. That way you can't take credit even if you don't win, because that
would be horrible, of course. All right. What are our first impressions of this meme?
There's a lot that can go on here. I've never seen this meme. I have no idea what to do
with it. Yeah. That's kind of the fun, I think. Sometimes that's funny. You know, it is sometimes
funny when everyone does a completely different meme and some of them aren't even, like, funny
or relevant. What do people in the audience think of this meme? What do we think of two
guns, well, three guns in a car, one says something, other two guns turn around, and
then the other one's silenced? So what format should it be saved in? The same JPEG? JPEG
or PNG, whatever you want, and then upload it to the same folder. I will share it and
arrange it such that people can see different numbers and vote on them and things. But make
sure that you name the meme the number one, colon, a random number, and then your name.
Mac doesn't let me do colon, so I want file names.
You can do a dash or a dot. Maybe a period is fine, too. We have no comments. There we go.
Good meme. Thank you, Andres. I appreciate you liking my meme choice here. We'll see if it's a
good meme depending on what people submit. Of course, I'm wearing my putting the fun and
fungibility shirt today. I saved the normal Monero one for Sunday when I'm giving a talk about
Monero coinbase outputs, which are much less fun than memes, I would say. But so be it. This is
a problem with the meme competition sometimes. It's all funny. Everyone will laugh when the
memes are done, but in the moment, everyone's busy just working on them, trying to think of
something good, and they're all stressed out. I need a co-host on here just to do banter back and forth.
All right, I've submitted.
Cool. I see yours. Now I get to do all the work of arranging them in a way where people can vote.
Without giving too much away, Vic, this is a Monero meme you came up with?
I couldn't think of anything Monero-related, so I guess I'll lose that one. I don't know how.
Nobody makes that into a Monero meme, but hats off to them. That's a tough one. I just went the general route.
Okay. Yeah, hold on.
Somebody on Twitter just corrected somebody. They're saying it's at Verge Currency, not at Verge, like it matters.
Oh gosh, what did you do, Vic? Are you embarrassing us?
No, I'm just reading.
Is this from the Cake Wallet account?
No, nothing to do with Cake or Vic, my account. Just random tweets.
I know you're secretly making a Verge wallet in the background. I know your ultimate goal is to get the trust of the Monero community.
Exactly. Hopefully they'll accept me one day.
You know, it's a very prestigious community. You've got to build from the bottom up. You've got to start with the basic stuff like Monero.
You've got to make wallets that anybody will use. Monero is such a coin that no one treats like anything else.
Eventually, you'll be good enough for the Verge community, Vic.
It's so welcoming to criticism. Anyway, let's not talk about it.
Who's all on? Who is everybody?
Someone submitted, what is the naming convention dot PNG? Name it 01 dash or whatever, and then put in a random number, and then put in your actual name.
The reason for the random number is because that's the number I'm going to give the audience to vote on.
And that way, once I figure out which one wins, I'm able to figure out which one actually wins.
And then I know the name then of who submitted it.
Yeah, I was wondering where you saw the what is naming convention. I mean, that was close enough.
Who picks the winners?
We're going to have the chat spam the winner. And if no one votes, then it's just going to be me.
Which is biased because I know who picked the memes then, I guess. So people better vote.
So you're saying this is centralized?
It is a very centralized.
Well, that's why I thought we were just going to have a number and then no name. And then we would say, oh, that was my number.
I guess anybody could claim the number in the end, though, but...
Yeah.
So this way, Justin can't pick favorites, huh?
All right, Scott, how are you doing?
Good. I am literally just a couple of clicks away from uploading. One click away.
In the meantime, look at this shirt I got from Cypher Market, Diego.
Very nice. Diego is just with us. Walking all the noobs with how to use Monero.
Did he say just use CakeWallet?
He went through the Monero GUI. He didn't go through the CakeWallet.
You said noobs and easy.
He was complaining about the GUI as he was using it.
I told you, for CakeWallet, I wanted our slogan to be for noobs by noobs.
It's a good way of putting it. Force refreshing. Let's see. Oh, I see a download. It's fine. It's not named correctly, but it's fine.
Okay.
Okay. You have three numbers to choose from.
You only need to get better at general. Oh, actually, Isthmus just submitted this. Never mind.
All right.
Isthmus. Okay.
It's really difficult to arrange these, as you can imagine. I'm doing my best.
Maybe I should specify the next time to do a two-digit number. That way, it's not going to take the entire slide.
All right. I have...
Oh, goodness. Scott, did you take yours down again?
No.
Okay. One second.
Mine was deleted.
It's fine. I assigned you a random number, so you're good.
I remember which one's yours. It's all that matters.
Okay. Time to screen share.
And if you are on Twitter... Sorry, not Twitter.
If you're on YouTube, get ready to spam which number you believe is the best.
All right. So let me share the screen.
All right. Screen sharing right now.
Option one... Option... Well, not one. Option two.
I'm not shooting off my mouth.
I wonder who made that one.
Option 52. Fungibility, question mark?
Option three. Monero would be better with proof of stake.
Or 1337.
Oh, I got the same one. That must have been Isthmus.
Did I not get yours, Scott?
I don't see mine on there.
Oh, damn.
Oop.
Just write a...
I'm not seeing it.
Write a program. Here, let me refresh.
Oh, my gosh.
We may have a latecomer.
Pretend you haven't read any of them.
Of course. Refresh here.
Yeah, mine is there in the number one folder.
I'm doing forced sync. I don't see it.
One minute. Let me see if I can get it.
Yeah, I'm not seeing it.
Sorry, everybody.
We'll figure this out.
Probably, like, ran out of storage and yours is like...
Oh, no, I see it. Okay, that's good.
Okay.
It's fine.
Let's see if I can copy this in.
I mean, the meme not being visible to outside observers is pretty on-brand from an arrow.
All right.
Last option, late submission from who-knows-whom.
What if I were MergeMind?
Thankful for today's Circa 2014 at the bottom there.
All right, so you get to vote.
Do you want option 2, 52, 3, 13, 37, or 5?
You need to vote in YouTube.
Put it in the chat right now.
No one has voted yet, so we will see.
People are quiet today.
Come on, put in a vote.
It is essential.
It's your civic duty to vote on memes.
Hope you're able to see the memes well enough, given how I have to arrange these.
I think we're going to do a wide one next, so I can try and fit them all better.
Well, we have 24 people voting, but no one actually that's paying attention.
They just have it all running on in the background.
I'm going to give people five more seconds to vote.
Otherwise, I'm going to move on.
And I'm just going to choose one, like the dictator I am.
Okay.
Oh, can't read the text.
Okay, well, let's just crop the bottom of the meme, I guess.
You see it in every single one.
So, Manero would be better with proof of stake, or is this one here?
Manero would be better with proof of stake, 13, 37.
I'm not shooting off my mouth, number two.
Fungibility, question mark.
You have, what if I were Merge Mind by Thankful for Today?
Or, Manero would be better with proof of stake, two.
Really, Vic, you like yours?
You said vote, so I'm trying to help you out here.
Congrats.
Who won?
All right, since nobody has voted other than Vic.
Don't count that, obviously.
I think I need to be the person to decide, and I think I'm going to choose the...
I think I'm going to go with Thankful for Today circa 2014.
Congrats, Scott, you won the first round.
Okay, look, Manero would be better with proof of stake is really good, admittedly.
That's awesome, too, isn't this?
But just the fact that, like, this is something that actually happened in Manero's past history, right?
It just makes it super, super relevant.
So what if I were Merge Mind by Thankful for Today, I think, is the best choice.
And Andres, you came in too late.
What if I were Merge Mind?
That was the winner, and that was by Scott.
All right, done with this.
Let's pull up the second meme now.
You can now open up folder number two.
That's a trendy meme right now.
All right, that's Bonjour.
So now we get everyone five minutes to start working on this one now, too.
And then I'm going to try and make the template work better with four participants.
All right, it's better for four participants now, so we're good.
It's easier for everyone to see.
All right, I'm in.
All right.
You're very fast at making these.
I was wondering why in the live stream it was all me.
Let me check to see, is the stream coming through in HD?
I hope so.
Looks like it.
I mean, the stream will be in HD.
I just want to make sure the quality.
That's a standard.
I don't know.
Hopefully it'll be HD when I stream.
So you can read text and things.
We have a custom Jitsi server, but for some reason it still sometimes falls back on lower resolution than would fit in a pipe.
So I don't really know what's going on there.
Wish I knew.
I have absolutely no idea what to do with this.
For some reason, people are doing a bunch of these memes right now.
It's not always just the bonjour one, but sometimes it's like goodbye and then hello.
Right?
So sometimes they're paired together.
Sometimes it's just this one.
Oh, okay.
Interesting, interesting.
Yeah, mine has nothing to do with the bonjour.
My text has nothing to do with the meme.
It's just random thoughts of mine.
Of course, if you're in chat, please comment what you would put, too.
You're welcome to put your text of the meme that goes with this.
You can participate, too.
Vic's obviously paying close attention, so he's going to steal your idea.
All right, let's start to get those in.
Let me force sync.
Let's see who else is added.
So far, I think I only have Vic.
Almost there.
Just screenshotting it real quick.
I'm going to grab a beer in the meantime.
I'll be back.
Instead of a beer, I'm having a strawberry bubbly.
It's basically the same, except minus all the alcohol, of course.
Did anyone see that Topo Chico is going to make spiked seltzer next year?
No interest.
Yeah, some people on the ZCash ecosystem are furious because they're really into Topo Chico.
I didn't know this, actually.
I was drinking their twist of lime during the first livestream that I hosted for their future developer fund.
And I was drinking the twist of lime, and they're all there like, yeah, nice.
So that's how I instantly got some extra brownie points with them, was by having my Topo Chico.
What is Topo Chico?
It's like, I don't know, it's some sparkling water.
They sell literally just normal, plain sparkling water, and they sell others that have a few flavors, like lime or a few things.
They've really been expanding a lot. They're owned by Coca-Cola, of course.
It's non-alcoholic.
Yeah, but they are making alcoholic ones next year.
Justin, did you get paid for this?
Basically. I will say, I have not been paid by Coca-Cola, but my brother loves it so much, he basically holds it as if it's an ad.
It's kind of funny, and I have to be like, this is not an ad.
It's just Nathan. It's a very satisfied customer for some reason.
But obviously, I don't drink. I don't waste my money. I drink my Pepsi bubbly.
They're going to get my money no matter what.
Overpriced water, how about that?
I was going to say, C3 has basically an essentially endorsed drinker of hackers drink.
Did you submit yours, Scott? I'm seeing VTNerds and Vicks.
Once again, yeah, I see mine, Serhac's, and Vicks. I don't know why mine isn't showing. It shows it's fully uploaded, but...
That's okay. It's not the end of the world. I can just go through and...
Yeah, worst case, I can always...
Wait, Serhac submitted one. Serhac, over.
Another channel.
Look at you participating. Right after I arranged my grid to work with four people, a fifth person shows up.
Sorry, that was just me.
Isthmus, are you... wait, that was you?
Okay, so Isthmus on behalf of Serhac. Okay, I see.
I couldn't figure out what to do with it. I didn't want that associated with me.
You're just throwing another Monero contributor under the bus.
Got away with it for a minute.
I mean, you would have had access to figure out how to get this channel, so it is theoretically believable.
Would have been shocking, but also, weirder things have happened.
But not that shocking.
Alright, let me arrange these. You know, instead of...
I'll just arrange these. One, two, three, four.
It's not very difficult to keep track of four people, as long as you name them.
My computer is really lagging for some reason. It's not liking this, but that's okay.
Almost done.
Oh, look at this.
One of these is a little different than the rest.
Alright, we got some good ones.
For everyone who didn't know what to do with this, it's a good set of templates here.
Alright, let's see. Sharing my screen now.
Alright, here we go. Make sure, if you are on YouTube, please vote.
If you have too much difficulty reading these, let me know.
So, the first one.
Lightning Network is private. Who needs Bonero?
Me. Bonjour.
Actually, I should just number these one through four.
Please continue to submit them the same way if you're participating.
But, like, we'll just have people vote on one, two, three, or four.
Alright, second one.
Bonjour. Fungibility.
Third one.
If I use my Bitcoin from this hole, I become invisible.
Take that, Monero.
Bonjour.
So, we'll ask someone to explain that one later without giving it away.
And then, you know, the fourth one.
Monero releases new hard fork.
ASIC company. Bonjour.
Definitely a nice self-deprecating meme there.
I like it. I like it.
The last one actually makes sense. Now I get it.
Now you get it.
We're going to have to start including an example that's not Monero related in this.
So, we have one vote so far. Andres, who's voting for number four.
Anyone else, please, please put your vote in.
But, to some extent, this is almost like the OG Monero meme.
Where someone was like, untraceable public ledger.
Or, like, who needs privacy?
And, like, Monero bashes down the wall.
And it's like, privacy matters. Privacy first.
Fungibility.
So, it's almost like this.
Where you could be like, who needs...
Like, you know, you have a Bitcoin person ranting at a meetup that's talking too loud about, like,
what type of privacy implementations are the best?
And then you have Monero guy coming up from his hole being like, bonjour.
Definitely a lot of scope for some other ones in this discussion.
But I do like the self-deprecating ASIC company coming in with bonjour.
Okay, apparently just one person is watching this stream.
And so they get to determine which one is their favorite.
I'll give another five seconds or so here.
But otherwise, Andres' vote for number four is going to be the victor.
Clearly have to cater to their humor going forward.
Yes.
This person is a lot of sway.
Vic, what happened? You're doing so well last time.
I know. You're hyping me up.
These memes just don't work well for you, apparently.
It's the memes, not me.
Oh, we have a vote for number three.
Which I'm sure someone bribed them to come on and vote for number three.
Wouldn't put it past that person.
All right, now we have a split vote. Do I need to choose again?
Please tell me I don't need to choose again.
What was that?
Yeah, I'd have to pick between the two.
So number one and number two are out.
You can always roll like a dice, let the dice decide.
Random number generator.
Oh, do you need a random number? Four. Four is a good number.
All right. Completely random.
I am going to use the extreme random.
What's the name of that?
Who's the one that does that?
I'm going to use the super random.
Gavin and Dreeson's thing?
No, I'm going to use this Manero. Sorry, this Google generator.
But who's the person that like Walton Shane?
Yeah, the Walton Shane. Congrats, I won!
To themselves for winning their own competition.
Oh yeah, I remember that.
Yeah, exactly.
But I'm going to use the Google one instead, which is probably at least as good as a Walton Shane one.
Three. Three won.
Nice.
All right. So that is officially...
Vic.
Vic won that one. I don't know, I disagree. I like Scott's better.
Science has spoken.
Random number generator may forever be in your favor, Vic.
How do we know Google isn't...
He could have Google in his pocket too. I mean, this could be huge.
This is a big conspiracy here.
Yeah, you don't know my connections.
Oh, that would be intense.
All right, so I need to put Vic down as the winner from number two.
All right. Just to prevent you from cheating, instead of doing number three, do not open that one.
You shall go to number eight.
What cheating scheme does that foil?
What?
Oh, there's somebody that... Did you already do this one? Or what's going on here? There's like...
There's two picks.
Oh, did you combine them into one?
Yeah, I combined them into one. So you can just use the zero eight one.
Let's see how well this one will be received. It's like the opposite Kanye meme.
At least one person likes it.
Well, I'd like that you include yourself. This could be dangerous. I don't know.
I live dangerously.
Was there any rules that we couldn't name you? Because we have to like implicitly...
Well, now you can.
Yeah. All right.
There you go. I said you couldn't name people in other communities that weren't like super, super popular.
No genuinely harsh.
Bonus points to whoever knows where that second screenshot was taken.
Sorry, that second image was taken.
I was not in a good mood.
Is that like consensus or something?
No, it wasn't consensus. It was a travel world conference.
I was on a panel with someone from Dash, someone from Zcash, a Bitcoin Core contributor,
and I think that might have been it, actually.
We're talking about travel rule. I don't know. I was just annoyed, as you can tell.
Oh, well.
First one's from DEF CON last year.
We'll see if this backfires on me. It probably will.
Knowing my luck, someone from Rio will take that and then just run with it.
So I should be careful.
I'm starving. I'm looking forward to having dinner after this.
Why did I schedule this at 6 p.m. Central?
I'm surprised the NSA hasn't given a submission. They're just watching.
No, that's my recording computer.
I thought it'd be more fun to actually include the logo on it.
Just to prove to people that Monero has backdoors, of course.
When we designed the Monero protocol, our first thought is,
how do we make sure they have the proper backdoor they need?
It's a critical part of the discussion.
I genuinely do need someone else on here as a co-host to throw a banter back at.
I really do.
Where's Diego? He'd be good.
Diego's, like, gone.
Ruben from Zcoin's texting me. I can tell him he can still hop on,
even if he just talks with me, just to make fun.
You can still join if you want.
I need a co-host anyway.
He might actually be hopping on.
That'd make my life easier.
And would end the suffering of everyone in the chat.
They're dealing with some stuff.
One of the best things that's helped prove to me, like,
wow, the Monero community is really committed.
They watched one of the...
We tried a gaming livestream once,
when a lot of people in the Monero community played 0AD,
which is like an open-source Age of Empires alternative.
And everyone was, like, too concentrated on the game.
And I only was able to share my own screen,
so they were just watching a concentrated me play a game,
and no one else was talking.
And, goodness.
You're all alone, Justin.
Yeah, it was just...
But we had, like, hundreds of hours of watch time on that video.
And I'm like, if people are willing to spend hundreds of hours
watching this, then...
Oof.
Then Monero has something going for it.
By the way, I submitted it, but I'm sure I got the concept of the meme wrong again.
I don't know.
It's always funny when everyone has their own way of interpreting the meme.
It really is.
Right.
You're just going to embarrass your daughter.
She's going to be like, ah, Dad, you just didn't get it.
Yeah, exactly.
So, Vix talks every time.
Let me see if anyone else is...
Talking about my daughter, when we wanted to name the wallet Cake,
she's like, do you know what Cake means?
In slang, don't do it.
I think we've got all four now.
I think so. I don't know why they're not syncing on my end,
I can easily copy them from browser.
It takes me like an extra half second.
Well, NSA Van has to catch up for you, that's what.
True. I do have a lot of bandwidth going on over here.
A lot of direct connections to people.
Actually, I guess I don't need it all the way on the edge.
Okay, one, two, I have three of them on here.
I forgot the number of mine. It's the last one down.
It's fine.
The most important thing, I guess, is that someone names it.
All right.
I like all these. They're all weird in their own way.
And to be clear, I prefer if you don't actually look at them
before the rest of the audience.
That way you can save the surprise for everyone else.
Otherwise, the stream is going to be worse.
All right, everybody ready?
We have some good ones here.
This is the best one so far, I think.
Well, thank you, Ruben, for joining us.
You're going to have to comment on some of these memes.
I'm going to share them.
And you're going to have to talk about which one you think is the best.
I like your background, too, by the way.
Maybe he should.
Since he won't know.
He's clearly a natural.
All right, I'm going to share. Here we go.
Three, two, one, sharing.
All right.
So the first one is,
Let me do my 129th tweet about Zcash.
And then, bro, can you stick to Monero?
The second one is,
Designing protocols to improve miner privacy.
And then watching mining pools publish every payout transaction anyways.
That one's very relevant because I do bitch about that all the time.
The third one,
Monero means money.
Is that a real movie?
And then the fourth one is,
When you find out CL setting audit comes back, great.
And then when you find out CL setting won't be released until October.
Your YouTube feed is just showing your Google search page.
Is it because I see, I'm looking at YouTube right now and I see the memes.
What do you guys see?
Oh, no, I see the old ones.
That's weird. I guess I'm really behind.
Are you behind?
I guess I am.
Yeah, here we go.
The live text to re-sync.
Potentially, if it's not.
Sorry about that. Go ahead.
These are all really good.
You all update yourselves for these.
Oh, sure. I can drop the link to the YouTube stream in here so you all get it.
So that's the YouTube stream.
How old were you in the first picture, Justin?
That was taken last year.
Oh, what?
I'm 22.
Wow.
And the second picture is around the same age as well.
Yeah, there was a November.
Yeah, I have to use that.
That's one of my favorite photos because I was just so angry about something.
It clearly went through to the photographer.
Do you remember what you were angry about?
Someone was saying something stupid about the travel rule.
So we have two votes that have come in so far.
Before I use those in the chat, Ruben, which one do you like of these four?
I like the first one.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, I definitely get a lot of people in the Monero community being like,
dude, what the hell are you doing?
And then sometimes I get some people through Zcash that are like,
stick to your lane.
Yeah.
How deep are your connections, man?
Another guy?
Exactly.
All those giveaways, you know, they want something back.
That's awesome.
So I just want to suspiciously say that when we're bringing in people
who give a last minute vote, both times they're picking Vic.
So...
And the Google random number generator went Vic.
But it looks like, you know, two out of the three votes that came in,
including Ruben's, went for the second option, number two.
So the second option, I think that was...
Who submitted that one?
That was Isthmus.
Congratulations, Isthmus.
Thank you.
I know this annoys you a lot, too.
So it's funny that you were the one that made that.
Yeah, Isthmus and I are the two people that...
Vic, I see how it is.
In the YouTube chat, yelling at someone for not voting for him.
I'm going to start bribing people there.
Yeah, you're going to start doing a giveaway for everyone.
A random person who votes for me gets a Monero.
Yeah.
Pre-staging Monero.
It works. Yeah, it does.
You're suddenly going to have hundreds of people voting in the chat instead of three.
3,000 votes for Vic.
Exactly.
Okay, so we currently have a three-way tie between Scott, Vic, and Isthmus.
They each have one point each.
Let me go through.
Which meme do I want you all to do next?
Oh, speaking of which, Ruben, would you like to participate or do you want to just banter with me as we carry on?
Your choice.
I don't want to participate.
You want to participate? Okay.
In Telegram, I sent you a NextCloud link.
Okay, got it.
Yeah, so there's a bunch of folders.
I'll tell you a number.
You can open up the folder and there's memes in there.
So we already did number one, two, and eight.
Instead, let me do...
Actually, we have to do this one because it's super, super popular right now.
Open up number nine.
Number nine.
Let me share this on YouTube here.
This one's a really popular current meme.
All right.
It's the Trump interview meme.
It's a little different.
I mean, I've seen different variations of this one.
Let's treat the box on the middle right there as what's on the piece of paper the dude's reading.
And how do we submit?
Oh, I forgot to...
You can submit by uploading it to the same folder.
I forgot to prepare this.
Did anyone actually use the...
It looks like no one actually used the LibreOffice template, did they?
I did.
I actually...
I'll give you a little extra time, Scott.
I know I said I would have a template, and then I didn't.
So it's my bad.
I can easily open it up in Krita or whatever.
It's not that big of a deal.
Yeah, it's...
I mean, you had the other one, so...
It's...
Oh, shit.
I'm getting it. I'm getting it.
For those who are watching, LibreOffice Draw is a very common tool to use for this
because, you know, it's editable like PowerPoint or anything else,
but anyone can have it without a license.
So it's useful in that regard.
Okay, Scott, in case you do want one, I did upload the template for you.
Sure.
You don't have to use it, of course.
I mean, it's easier.
Oh, I'm such a Microsoft-er, I don't have OpenOffice.
God.
I have both, Ruben.
I have both on all of my computers.
At least on my Windows computers, which I do need for work.
So long as it's not $365 and you're paying Microsoft every month.
I mean, I'm not paying $365 money, but some other people are paying $365 money.
I am, so...
Exactly.
All right, BJCLivera seems to like this one.
They think this one's going to be funny.
Let's see what the word of Trump is.
Oh, how do I use the text?
And just as a hint, you don't have to do this, of course.
You might have a simple meme that only has something on the card.
You may name who the participants are, right?
Your choice to how much detail you want in the meme.
Sometimes simpler is better, sometimes complex carries across more clever memes.
Trying to edit it.
How to insert text. Here we go.
Here we go.
Yay, my first submission.
So you were able to upload there okay, Ruben?
Yeah, I think so.
I'm going to download LibreOffice now.
It takes a while. It's like a big package.
Let's see.
All right, so I got one person's.
Actually, let me update mine real quick.
I just thought maybe something better.
Oh, you haven't gotten mine? Hmm.
Okay, I see yours, Ruben.
I'm not going to say which one, but one of these is a very...
It's a very clever take on this meme that you would not typically see filled out in this fashion.
Okay, I'm seeing submissions from Scott, Vic, and Ruben. Is that correct?
Yep.
Did you say missing?
No, I have your three.
I'm working mine now. Give me 20 seconds.
You got it?
Yeah, I'm almost ready.
I didn't know where to go with it until you said...
Well, I still don't know where to go with it, but when you said we could name the characters...
When you said I could do what?
Name the characters.
Oh, yeah. You can either do or don't need to name the characters. Your choice.
Okay, sorry. I uploaded the second version of mine.
Oh, okay. You have two? Okay.
I thought something was more appropriate to the context.
Not an issue at all.
I have no idea why yours are just not downloading on my computer, despite you obviously submitting them.
Yeah, I would say maybe it's because I'm running over a VPN or something, but the progress bar shows it's fully uploaded.
By the way, guys, see in the YouTube chat, BTC Levera? It's his birthday today.
Happy birthday!
Or she, I don't know. It's their birthday.
Hopefully this is a good birthday present, but I mean, I don't know if spending time with me counts as a birthday present.
Most people call that an annoyance.
All right, I have...
Yeah, hold on.
Okay.
I feel like someone else had to do this one.
So I have one, two, I have four submissions from people.
I have one from Ruben, Scott, Vic, and I don't know who, one of them is just called Screenshot.
Who's is Screenshot?
Who is that one? Sorry.
I renamed it. I don't know why it didn't stick, but well, hold on.
Okay.
I like all of these. They're so good.
It's really hard to fit five of these.
It's kind of sketchy how I'm doing it now.
So I'm just waiting on...
Is it Lee?
Mine should be in there now.
Okay, okay, I got yours. Okay, we're good. Give me one second here and we'll be...
All right. This doesn't fit very well, but it doesn't matter.
All right, here we go. Time for me to share my screen.
All right, here we go.
You can see it's very awkward to fit the five participants.
So I'll have to read these again probably.
Maybe I can just zoom in and scroll to the right. I don't know. I don't know if it makes more sense.
Oh, gosh.
Zooming worked for me.
Oh, PowerPoint hates me right now.
Oh, that definitely does not work.
Okay, it's fine.
Um, first one.
I've downloaded and printed the complete Monero blockchain and you can see all of the transactions and then it's a blank sheet of paper.
I would not have thought of this, but it is a very clever way to do it with the main part of the meme is just blank and it still works.
Second one.
The message passed is, Verge is the best, the very best. Look at this transaction graph here.
The guy, dude's like, what?
Third one.
Bitcoin's privacy set is larger than Monero's.
What?
Fourth.
Trump represents a new comment every week, handing a message to our Monero.
Monero can't have value because it has infinite supply.
Our Monero being like, what?
And then the last one is number five.
T.S.
What?
Okay, I actually don't.
Shill Trump coin.
What's up with the first T.S. slash no...
That's like a...
No, it's like top secret no foreigners.
Oh.
It's like...
Got it.
Is that how like people of clearance speak?
Well, we do.
This is a clearance only chat, as you can tell.
So just because the NSA van is here to help us.
So we have we have two votes that have come in.
Sorry.
Two votes that have come in, but they're one new person.
So BTC Lovera still needs to put theirs in.
We have one vote from Febo for number one.
We have a vote from Andres.
My take wasn't that far from number four.
So they vote four.
I like all of these.
They're all good.
Look at Andres trying to vote twice.
That's not right.
BTC Lovera.
I'm waiting on you.
You get to number one.
Ah, Vic.
Man.
Vic.
How dare you.
Hey, no influence.
This person voted for you.
Was it all three times?
No, the last time they didn't.
They might not have heard it from me.
Okay, Vic, you won with number one.
I like all these.
I would have voted for number four.
Do we want to do one last one?
Sure.
Okay.
Which one do I want?
Oh, open up number five.
Number five.
Number five.
There's a folder on here that says do not use.
It's very...
Don't use that one.
That was...
I found out several versions of this meme.
This isn't like the OG version, but it is really funny and I had to just do it.
But it's so tempting to open that folder anyway.
You can open it.
You can open it and look at it.
You just can't use it.
I feel like there's something better in there.
That's why.
That one is just for Vic.
You know, people that are going to win anyway.
Just kidding.
You can even look at it.
It's the same type of meme.
This other one I just thought was better.
So, I mean...
All right.
But, you know, on that last one, you didn't give names to anybody.
So, to those memes.
So, there's no way.
Even though BTC Loera might be compromised, he couldn't vote for me.
Which one always...
You have a certain style, Vic.
As far as fingerprinting is concerned, we don't have enough people participating for everyone to be a unique...
Like, everyone's a unique submission style.
Yeah.
Individuality.
So, is it worth looking up this meme to cheat a little?
Or is it just, like, going to be funnier if I just pull something from...
I mean, you can look it up.
But, like, I don't know how that would help you that much.
No.
Yeah.
The bucket and the...
Bucket is the...
Bucket's the killer thing.
Yeah, what?
There's, like, five characters in this.
My plots aren't that complex.
I wonder how long real meme generators, like, you know, the people that start these memes.
How long do they have?
They have probably, like, 12 hours a day to do this.
Can you imagine, like, a meme sweatshop?
Come on, man.
We should have our own Monero meme sweatshop or the Zcoin meme sweatshop.
We'll just compete against each other.
Like one of those old writer rooms where they're just like, we need more memes.
What are you guys doing?
100 memes a minute.
Just full of cigarette smoke.
Let's see.
How do we do this?
It's not easy.
Now, if Isthmus or Scott meet, you know, win this one, then we're going to have a problem.
Because then we're going to have a tie again.
I won't win.
I have literally no clue what to do with any part of this.
Not familiar with this meme.
There's too many characters.
This is where we explore Monero community and how out of touch they are.
Do you follow memes or something?
Are you the one creating all these memes?
You've got the meme, like, sweatshop going on.
That's what's going on.
I just find these on meme templates official usually.
So there really is a meme army.
Someone's coming up with templates and just putting it...
Man, this is quite the operation.
Memes are quite a business.
Yes, well read.
Every morning reads his daily meme templates.
Yeah, I don't know if you guys followed the meme competition we had on Twitter.
We had 300 submissions. It was insane.
300?
Yeah.
How did you even choose which one won?
Was it a random? Which ones were best?
A lot of them were just repeats.
So just scroll by.
I did get help from one other person to go through them.
The kid looks like he has his underwear outside his pants.
But I think it's just his shirt.
Oh, yeah.
That is weird. What is that?
We have to zoom in on this one and see what's up.
No, it's probably a shirt.
No, it's the same as his collar.
You can tell it's the same style.
So it's his undershirt.
Underneath is like...
Well, his shirt underneath is like sweater or whatever.
Sweatshirt, sweater.
I always mix them up and my mom yells at me.
But I don't know the difference between a sweater and a sweatshirt.
Yeah.
Sound Safari in chat.
You got to be just transparent about where your interests lie.
Hey, guys, I'm sorry to inform you.
I am going to be winning this one.
I am that confident.
Man, that was...
Well, you've won all the other ones without even, you know, basically no confidence.
Yeah.
Vic won the last one, too.
We need some actual competition for Vic.
Get some people from the Dogecoin community.
Some real memers.
Like 4chan.
You get some real...
It's going to submit like a bunch of different variations of Pepe the Frog.
And they're going to be...
They don't win every one.
I see you, Vic.
Does it make sense?
No comment.
I am a professional video host.
Okay.
Despite all evidence to the contrary.
I have no idea what to do with this.
Vic's also a professional video host.
He's also always like the first person to submit.
We should put him in the meme factory.
You should have a clock.
You should have a shot clock.
See, it's hard for me to enforce because I can't like just blast it across all your screens.
I have my phone on the side, but that's not as intimidating.
Yeah, that's why we need to have like Moo write a custom program.
Yeah, okay.
Honestly, I would love to have...
What was that, Vic?
I said put like a LED on the wall behind...
I would love to have like a Jackbox style meme game.
That would be great.
Oh, yeah.
That would coordinate all this stuff.
That way I'm not going between three different monitors and taking forever and...
Someone took a screenshot.
It's like, wait, what?
Who's in my house?
Is that the sound for like the Ubuntu screenshot tool?
It's definitely not a snipping tool.
Someone was not using a snipping tool.
No one's fessing up to that.
Hmm, this is tough.
We have a few more submissions coming in now.
Oh, I just woke up.
This is too early to do this stuff.
What time is it where you're at?
8 a.m., not too bad.
I messed up the time.
I thought it was 8 a.m., but it was supposed to be 7 a.m.
I'm cropping these a little bit where it's not relevant just to try and make them a bit bigger.
All right.
I have either all of them or all but one.
It's all but one for sure.
Maybe you guys can go ahead.
I'm struggling.
This is an interesting choice.
What I'm looking at right now.
I get to check.
Are you sure, Ruben?
Yeah.
Go ahead.
Okay.
Okay.
About to...
We only have four choices this time.
Let me share my screen.
I'm glad this sharing screen seems to work really, really well.
Okay.
Screen.
Share.
Okay.
Option number one.
Monero, Bitcoin, Chainalysis, and Privacy.
Option number two.
Tiger and Transparent Ledger Advocate.
I love how they just put tiger on top of tiger.
Did someone want to explain themselves there?
I mean, you're all going to stay anonymous, but...
I don't know.
I had to explain.
They're more scared of the Transparent Ledger Advocate than the tiger.
Oh, God.
Okay.
That is funny, but I just love the idea that you put tiger over tiger.
All right.
I'm not at the sweatshop of meme farms.
I don't know how this works.
I got more laughs out of you doing it that way than if you didn't.
Actually, what happened to number one?
Was it cut off?
Or was that intentional?
What do you mean by cut off?
I don't know.
It seems like the tips of the rabbit ears are cut off.
It is a black bar.
You know what it is?
This doesn't actually exist.
Sorry.
I see what you're doing there, Justin.
I was trying...
That's like one of the...
It's like a background trying to divide and things.
It's just...
I should have sent it as a template background, but that was too much work.
So I just...
They're all objects that overlap each other annoyingly.
You can see there's another one over here.
All right.
Third choice.
Undisclosed double spend and transaction with zero decoys.
Someone else want to explain this one?
Or should I go for it?
I always want to give the person who makes the meme
the ability to explain theirs if they want.
Otherwise, I'll go...
Okay.
And then the fourth one.
Ring size 11, ring size 15, and triptych.
They definitely cropped off the whole bottom.
They're staring at some undefined object.
It's smart to cut off the rabbit.
It kind of looks like they're about to fall off.
Indeed.
Votes coming in.
Two people said number one.
One person said number two.
They said number two for the creative use of the word tiger.
It's just so absurd.
Actually, the worst part is I actually covered up the tiger so you can't even see it.
Like it's like it was just grass there.
It's just like...
Basically waiting on BGC Levera to determine who they are choosing for.
And of course, anyone else.
But...
Like Sound Safari, are you going to vote?
You've recently chatted.
I feel like number two is like such an amazing combination of like so bad is good but also good.
In more ways than one.
Okay, BTC, is that a vote for number two?
Or number one?
He said tiger.
So I guess that's number two.
Okay, number two.
Okay, so we have three votes for number two and two votes for number one.
So ultimately, number two is the winner.
Vic, was that you?
No, I was number one.
I thought I did really well.
You did not win.
You had to fail really hard, but not fail.
Exactly.
But do you guys get it?
Number one, it makes sense, right?
Monero, we're pushing Bitcoin users to this nice, fluffy thing, innocent thing called privacy.
And they don't understand there's this very tiger-tain ready to eat you up.
Yeah, yeah.
You've probably got it, but you can't beat tiger over tiger.
Yeah, exactly.
Tiger-ception.
Very simple.
It's not just the tiger over tiger, though.
It took a little bit extra explanation, I think.
But overall, I still thought it was really funny that, like, the thing that they were being introduced to is a transparent ledger advocate.
Like, they're so scared of talking to a transparent ledger advocate.
They'd rather... they're more scared of a transparent ledger advocate than the tiger.
You should have put, like, the Monero users or something.
Monero community for those two people.
I honestly didn't get it until it was explained.
I was like...
Yeah, it's pretty good.
Now that it's explained, it is very good.
All right.
Well, that concludes our Monero meme competition.
So I appreciate everyone who came in and participated.
Vic is still the winner because, ultimately, Vic won twice.
Scott won once.
And to be clear, Scott and Vic tied once.
But really, the only reason Vic won was because of Google's die roll.
Whatever it takes.
Whatever it takes.
Whatever it takes.
So apologies, Scott.
You put in all the work.
We didn't get any of the recognition there.
And then Isthmus and VTNerd each won once each.
Ruben, you didn't get a chance to point out why Zcoin's good.
No, I'm not going to show and get, like, Virtua Tomatoes.
I was expecting you to throw in some, like, really awesome why Zcoin's better memes.
This is your good chance.
I like Monero.
I mean, I like other coins, too.
But if I was brought into the group, you've got to make a ruckus.
You've got to.
Yeah, I'm too nice.
All right.
So with the end of the Monero meme competition, that also concludes today's DEF CON Monero Village entirely.
We will be back at 10 a.m. Pacific tomorrow on the same YouTube channel.
On the same Twitch channel.
If you want to watch, please come back and watch.
We'll have a lot of great events coming through.
To end tomorrow, we will have a trivia night.
We'll have a Kahoot quiz.
So we'll have another interactive event to finish off tomorrow evening.
And then on Sunday, a bunch of other great talks, too.
So keep an eye.
You can go to MoneroVillage.org.
I'll put that in the chat here in case you have not been following the rest of the talks today.
And, of course, we're starting tomorrow at 10 a.m. with Dr. Daniel Kim, like we have started every day.
So always really great content from him.
So really, really cool stuff going on.
So, yeah, thanks, everyone, who made it this long.
If you joined just for the Monero meme competition, you joined for the fun part.
Maybe not the best part.
We can't say that this is useful in any way, but it's fun.
And, yeah, we'll see you tomorrow.
So take care.
Good job, Justin.
Thanks, Justin.