1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,960 Get to suffer as I go through them. 2 00:00:02,420 --> 00:00:04,600 Okay, let me start. 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:05,560 Get ready. 4 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:07,840 Kahoot. 5 00:00:10,180 --> 00:00:11,500 Two, one. 6 00:00:11,500 --> 00:00:12,300 Question one. 7 00:00:12,300 --> 00:00:16,920 For the Monero E-A-E attack, what do the letter E's stand for? 8 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,600 Is it epidemic, exchange, elliptic curve, or environment? 9 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,900 Of course, in all of these cases, you should select the best answer. 10 00:00:26,260 --> 00:00:28,780 On your phone, you just have the colors and... 11 00:00:28,780 --> 00:00:31,940 an icon, so you will need to look at the screen. 12 00:00:31,940 --> 00:00:37,080 There is about a five-second delay, so get those answers in as quick as possible. 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,500 I'm actually seeing more like a six-second delay. 14 00:00:40,740 --> 00:00:42,360 You're almost out of time. 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,200 Wow, okay, yeah. 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:54,160 For the Monero E-A-E attack, the correct answer is the exchange. 17 00:00:55,180 --> 00:01:06,380 E-A-E typically refers to a single user, at least in the case of E-A-E, with just one letter A in the middle, where a user will take funds from one exchange and send it to another colluding exchange. 18 00:01:06,380 --> 00:01:12,560 It does not have to be an exchange, but however, that's what the general name comes from. 19 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:25,620 The idea that you are KYC'd on two exchanges that would collude to potentially understand that the Monero originated from the original exchange and ended up in the second exchange entity. 20 00:01:25,620 --> 00:01:27,780 So exchange is the best answer there. 21 00:01:27,780 --> 00:01:38,120 Elliptic curve is a cryptography term, and all the fancy-schmancy people chose that one, but I think that, yeah, the E-A-E does not refer to cryptography. 22 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,860 It just refers to a limitation in targeted surveillance in Monero. 23 00:01:42,860 --> 00:01:51,860 If you are interested in learning more, there is a Breaking Monero episode on E-A-E or the Poisoned Output attack. 24 00:01:51,860 --> 00:01:53,720 A lot of these attacks are very similar. 25 00:01:53,720 --> 00:02:01,480 They're all derived from the same type of idea, where you are engaging with colluding entities, so you should be a little bit careful there. 26 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,480 And yes, as NeedMoney90 says, please like and subscribe. 27 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,860 This is a typical S.H.I.E.L.D. 28 00:02:05,860 --> 00:02:06,160 channel. 29 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,740 Let me insert an ad break here. 30 00:02:07,740 --> 00:02:09,140 Just kidding, we're not affiliated. 31 00:02:09,140 --> 00:02:16,100 I even turned off the setting where users on this channel, if... 32 00:02:16,100 --> 00:02:17,600 I mean, I don't think people see ads. 33 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,400 I'm not getting any money from Google. 34 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,060 But even if they did, they would not also see personalized ads. 35 00:02:23,060 --> 00:02:28,740 I am getting less money than I already am not getting, so you're welcome. 36 00:02:29,300 --> 00:02:32,880 Any case, let's see who scored well in these. 37 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:38,300 Knack answered the fastest, so they are on the top of the leaderboard. 38 00:02:38,300 --> 00:02:42,460 They have 909 points, so congratulations, Knack. 39 00:02:42,460 --> 00:02:43,720 Censored got that correct. 40 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:44,720 JW got it correct. 41 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:49,380 J-T-B-V, which is really hard for me to say, because these letters are way too similar. 42 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,360 But yeah, four on the top of the leaderboard. 43 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,560 Scott, for some reason, is still on the leaderboard. 44 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,020 Scott, how did you not get that one? 45 00:02:57,020 --> 00:02:58,480 Come on, Scott, you should have known. 46 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,240 Scott, I'm disappointed in you. 47 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,040 All right. 48 00:03:02,660 --> 00:03:08,240 Also note, you get extra points, not just for answering quickly and correctly, but by answering several correct in a row. 49 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:13,060 So you've got to get these long, correct answers in a row here. 50 00:03:13,060 --> 00:03:17,680 Vic clearly is not as good at trivia as he is at making memes. 51 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,640 So, Vic, I'm watching out for you. 52 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:22,160 You better get a few of these in. 53 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,220 Scott is now banned from DEF CON. 54 00:03:24,220 --> 00:03:25,100 Honestly, yes. 55 00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:25,860 Scott, come on. 56 00:03:25,860 --> 00:03:26,720 Come on, Scott. 57 00:03:27,460 --> 00:03:28,500 All right, question two. 58 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:29,820 Maybe you'll do better on this one. 59 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,580 What does Monero most closely mean in Esperanto? 60 00:03:33,640 --> 00:03:36,200 Money, cash, coin, or private? 61 00:03:40,450 --> 00:03:41,150 Roasted, yeah. 62 00:03:41,150 --> 00:03:45,630 The whole point of this is basically just to adjust and free-for-all roasting people. 63 00:03:46,530 --> 00:03:49,490 Ultimately, the entire motivation I have behind this. 64 00:03:49,490 --> 00:03:53,270 And no one else is in Jitsi with me to complain. 65 00:03:54,310 --> 00:03:57,290 All right, we got a nice split here. 66 00:03:57,290 --> 00:04:02,950 So, I was playing the long con here, actually, for a few reasons. 67 00:04:02,950 --> 00:04:08,130 One, I gave this same question during the Moneroversary. 68 00:04:08,130 --> 00:04:11,470 At least, if I have good memory, I guess you can check me on that. 69 00:04:11,810 --> 00:04:16,010 But, yeah, most people got it wrong then, so I reuse the same question now. 70 00:04:16,010 --> 00:04:20,870 And I also released a movie called Monero Means Money. 71 00:04:20,870 --> 00:04:24,190 And it does not actually translate to money. 72 00:04:24,190 --> 00:04:27,770 It does instead translate to coin in Esperanto. 73 00:04:27,770 --> 00:04:30,770 That is when Monero first launched. 74 00:04:30,770 --> 00:04:32,950 It did not launch as the name Monero. 75 00:04:32,950 --> 00:04:35,130 It launched as the name Bit Monero. 76 00:04:35,130 --> 00:04:39,650 So, translated, basically, it was meant to mean Bit Coin. 77 00:04:39,650 --> 00:04:42,470 You know, Esperanto, for some reason. 78 00:04:43,730 --> 00:04:47,510 Esperanto, of course, is the world's most spoken constructed language. 79 00:04:47,510 --> 00:04:51,610 It is not one that was just spoken by people for a long time. 80 00:04:51,610 --> 00:04:53,530 It's a relatively recent language. 81 00:04:53,570 --> 00:04:58,490 And it's meant to be one that everyone could use as a neutral constructed language. 82 00:04:58,910 --> 00:05:01,970 But coin is the best answer here. 83 00:05:02,150 --> 00:05:04,150 So, let's see who got this one correct. 84 00:05:04,710 --> 00:05:06,810 Looks like someone else said that they got rekt. 85 00:05:06,810 --> 00:05:09,170 X, X, sorry, X, X, X, X. 86 00:05:09,170 --> 00:05:13,830 But, first place, still knack, got that one correct. 87 00:05:13,830 --> 00:05:15,510 Censored, Need Money 90, still on there. 88 00:05:15,510 --> 00:05:17,030 JW killing it. 89 00:05:17,370 --> 00:05:18,850 Scott got that one correct. 90 00:05:18,850 --> 00:05:23,790 And they moved up from their undeserved fifth place to fourth place. 91 00:05:23,790 --> 00:05:27,150 And then JTBV on the board now. 92 00:05:27,310 --> 00:05:29,210 Looks like they did not get that one correct, though. 93 00:05:29,210 --> 00:05:31,110 Because they got the previous one correct. 94 00:05:31,110 --> 00:05:33,590 So, really, Scott was the one who answered that one correctly. 95 00:05:34,490 --> 00:05:38,110 All right, let's see how people do in the next question here. 96 00:05:38,670 --> 00:05:43,070 Question three, what does the C in CLSAG stand for? 97 00:05:43,170 --> 00:05:47,010 Is it circular, compact, concise, or cooperative? 98 00:05:55,730 --> 00:06:01,830 People who were on for the MRL hour, office hours, earlier, hopefully know the answer to this one. 99 00:06:12,660 --> 00:06:14,740 I always like watching these because... 100 00:06:14,740 --> 00:06:22,540 All right, I just want to point out that for my quiz so far, the majority of people have answered incorrectly to every single one of these. 101 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,400 So clearly I'm doing something right. 102 00:06:26,420 --> 00:06:29,240 But in no case has no one got it correct. 103 00:06:29,460 --> 00:06:33,920 Actually, if you chose compact, you shouldn't feel too bad. 104 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,020 Because originally in MRL, they wanted to call it compact. 105 00:06:37,020 --> 00:06:38,360 But they got some pushback. 106 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,720 They got a lot of saying, well, it's not compact technically. 107 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:47,080 Because compact technically is supposed to have these guidelines if you're following other papers, yada, yada, yada, yada. 108 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:52,700 And you're right, in a general use term, no one actually cares. 109 00:06:52,700 --> 00:06:55,520 But cryptographers are a bunch of picky bunch. 110 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,640 And therefore, they decided to name it concise. 111 00:06:58,740 --> 00:07:02,480 Because it met the other cryptography definitions. 112 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,040 Concise is what it actually is called. 113 00:07:05,220 --> 00:07:06,440 So it's not cooperative. 114 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:07,280 It's not circular. 115 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:11,540 I did throw that one in there in case someone thought it would be related to the circular ring. 116 00:07:11,540 --> 00:07:15,700 But in fact, ring signatures are not actually the form of a circle. 117 00:07:15,700 --> 00:07:19,320 They don't store actual pictures of blockchains in here. 118 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:20,200 Yeah, you're right. 119 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,520 Knack probably got this one correct. 120 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:26,880 If Knack did not get this one correct, I think we can make fun of him more than anyone else that doesn't get these correct. 121 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:28,920 What? 122 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,940 Doug had defied your expectations there. 123 00:07:33,940 --> 00:07:35,860 I would have bet money. 124 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:42,780 Maybe they went to the bathroom or something and weren't looking at the screen at the time. 125 00:07:42,780 --> 00:07:45,820 Or misclicked as a result of you allegedly misclicking, Doug. 126 00:07:45,820 --> 00:07:47,540 But Andres got that one correct. 127 00:07:47,540 --> 00:07:48,700 Meow got that one correct. 128 00:07:48,700 --> 00:07:52,020 And Rottenkwinkus got that one correct, too. 129 00:07:55,140 --> 00:07:56,320 JW censored Knack. 130 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:57,720 Still remained at the top, though. 131 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,820 But Scott was punched off the leaderboard. 132 00:08:00,820 --> 00:08:02,180 And yet, Knack is a researcher. 133 00:08:02,180 --> 00:08:03,500 So maybe they would know. 134 00:08:04,940 --> 00:08:07,280 Alright, so this is pretty fun. 135 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:08,900 It's still anyone's game at this point. 136 00:08:08,900 --> 00:08:12,520 Of course, remember the last question alone is worth 2,000 points. 137 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,240 So, you never know. 138 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,080 Question 4. 139 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:20,560 In its entire history, how many Monero transactions have hit the sender, receiver, and amount? 140 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:26,880 Is it about 6,500, 65,000, 650,000, or 6,500,000? 141 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,400 What is the closest answer here? 142 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,360 Not all Monero transactions in all of history. 143 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,060 Just ones that have hit the sender, receiver, and amount. 144 00:08:37,060 --> 00:08:45,260 Noting that in the past, when Monero first launched, up until RingCT was a thing, Monero did not hide the transaction amount. 145 00:08:45,780 --> 00:08:47,880 Because it was just denominated. 146 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,640 Pretty poorly, honestly. 147 00:08:50,060 --> 00:08:53,500 I don't know if everyone got the question in time there. 148 00:08:53,500 --> 00:08:59,300 Make sure you are keeping track of the timer on the left and note that there is at least a 5 second delay. 149 00:08:59,300 --> 00:09:02,880 So get those answers in as quick as you can. 150 00:09:02,980 --> 00:09:05,900 Yes, the answer is 6.5 million. 151 00:09:05,900 --> 00:09:09,240 Which again, the majority of people did not get correct. 152 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:13,540 Maybe they just saw the highest number and were like, Nah, that can't be true. 153 00:09:13,540 --> 00:09:19,920 But yes, almost, at least as of last month, it was over 6.2 million. 154 00:09:19,980 --> 00:09:26,060 So yeah, about 6.5 million transactions in Monero have hit the sender, receiver, and amount. 155 00:09:26,060 --> 00:09:28,280 These are all RingCT transactions. 156 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:29,960 So that is pretty cool. 157 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:42,180 Well, if you did in fact have 2 million transactions alone, that would not bode especially well for traceability with low ring sizes. 158 00:09:42,180 --> 00:09:43,740 With 11, we are probably fine. 159 00:09:43,740 --> 00:09:45,380 But I would be pretty suspicious. 160 00:09:45,380 --> 00:09:47,280 That is pretty much attack level there. 161 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,060 Maybe certain mining pools collectively have those. 162 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,280 Oh, let's see what other comments are coming in. 163 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,480 Anyone who has synced the blockchain on the terminal will know how slow the later blocks are to sync. 164 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:58,880 Yeah, that is mostly a RingCT thing. 165 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:04,220 But luckily, CLSAG will definitely speed that up for future transactions going forward. 166 00:10:04,220 --> 00:10:06,660 And even so, Bulletproofs are much faster to verify. 167 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:18,840 Serang did this really awesome thing where he was just looking at code and was like, Wow, I found a way to make all Bulletproof transactions much faster to verify even retroactively by just being more efficient. 168 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:24,200 Because people just pull these optimizations out of nowhere when you are a genius like they are. 169 00:10:24,420 --> 00:10:25,760 Obviously, I am not a genius. 170 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,240 I just make quizzes for people and get them wrong half the time. 171 00:10:29,260 --> 00:10:32,200 So yes, 6.5 million is the correct answer. 172 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:40,060 If you were watching some of my talks in the past, one of which is on this channel, I did reference over 6 million transactions. 173 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,040 So that is where I got the inspiration for this question. 174 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,300 Yeah, but it should be efficient. 175 00:10:46,300 --> 00:10:49,640 We are doing our damn best to make sure it is as efficient as possible. 176 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,840 Oh, JW got that one correct. 177 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,620 Nat got that one incorrect. 178 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,520 I don't think Doug got this one correct either. 179 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:00,900 NeedMoney90 censored. 180 00:11:00,900 --> 00:11:03,040 Totally not the same set of people. 181 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:08,020 JW, I know that your life is basically just knowing crypto trivia. 182 00:11:08,020 --> 00:11:09,540 It is basically your full-time job. 183 00:11:09,540 --> 00:11:11,160 You don't need to convince me otherwise. 184 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,520 I know. 185 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,360 But Andres, you got the last three correct. 186 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:15,220 So look at you. 187 00:11:15,220 --> 00:11:16,740 You are killing it too. 188 00:11:17,020 --> 00:11:19,480 Still anybody's game here, really. 189 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,580 We have a ton of questions left. 190 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,000 Basically, yes. 191 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,140 It basically is. 192 00:11:25,140 --> 00:11:26,700 Do not deny it. 193 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,140 Question 5. 194 00:11:32,340 --> 00:11:33,480 Not how. 195 00:11:36,860 --> 00:11:38,400 Okay, that is the freebie. 196 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:39,820 I have to throw these in here. 197 00:11:39,820 --> 00:11:41,760 What is the best answer here? 198 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,060 Not how. 199 00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:46,980 See, I am making mistakes all the time. 200 00:11:46,980 --> 00:11:47,940 It should be which. 201 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,100 Come on. 202 00:11:52,100 --> 00:11:53,380 Get those answers in. 203 00:11:53,380 --> 00:11:54,720 Whose channel? 204 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:55,680 Get it in. 205 00:11:56,860 --> 00:11:59,600 And if you are watching now and want to join in this... 206 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,140 I mean, I was going to call it fun. 207 00:12:01,140 --> 00:12:04,280 But I was instead going to call it rant slash chaos. 208 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,060 You can join going to Kahoot.it, game pin 354661. 209 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,980 People are doing so poorly that you can probably still beat a lot of them. 210 00:12:12,060 --> 00:12:14,700 Manero says no is the best answer here. 211 00:12:14,740 --> 00:12:15,400 You know what? 212 00:12:15,620 --> 00:12:17,940 NeedMoney90, that is not verifiable. 213 00:12:17,940 --> 00:12:20,180 So I am going to call BS on that one. 214 00:12:20,180 --> 00:12:24,840 And I am going to think that Manero says no is still probably the best answer here. 215 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,640 This is just basically my low-effort chill here. 216 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,400 Just to give people some chance of getting on the leaderboard. 217 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,820 And one person apparently threw that one away anyway. 218 00:12:34,180 --> 00:12:36,080 So a lot of people are getting free points here. 219 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,120 Thank goodness. 220 00:12:37,180 --> 00:12:38,520 Bitconnect is the highest climb. 221 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,940 We are making our way up five places. 222 00:12:40,940 --> 00:12:45,300 That means we are going to explode over the next few rounds. 223 00:12:45,300 --> 00:12:46,100 And then die. 224 00:12:46,100 --> 00:12:48,320 I am not getting anything correct. 225 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,960 So there is that going for it. 226 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,020 We are still on the top of the leaderboard. 227 00:12:54,020 --> 00:12:57,620 Still only within three questions. 228 00:12:59,940 --> 00:13:03,280 So let us see what the next question is. 229 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:04,440 Question six. 230 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,920 What is the name of Manero's current mining algorithm? 231 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,400 His name is Bitconnect. 232 00:13:57,370 --> 00:13:58,950 Okay, whole fan back. 233 00:13:58,950 --> 00:14:00,550 I do not know what happened there. 234 00:14:00,550 --> 00:14:02,250 But luckily no one got it correct. 235 00:14:02,290 --> 00:14:03,970 We are fine. 236 00:14:06,230 --> 00:14:07,550 Screw you. 237 00:14:10,170 --> 00:14:12,250 Okay, so we had a question that came in. 238 00:14:12,250 --> 00:14:14,970 What was the name of Manero's current mining algorithm? 239 00:14:15,330 --> 00:14:18,610 One person guessed by just clicking a random button. 240 00:14:18,610 --> 00:14:20,450 And they did not get it correct. 241 00:14:21,270 --> 00:14:23,090 I genuinely do not know what happened. 242 00:14:23,090 --> 00:14:24,830 My internet just totally dropped out. 243 00:14:24,830 --> 00:14:26,610 I think the stream was out too. 244 00:14:26,770 --> 00:14:28,950 So very odd stuff. 245 00:14:29,870 --> 00:14:31,130 Gotta love Comcast. 246 00:14:31,130 --> 00:14:33,430 I had to switch to Comcast after I moved. 247 00:14:33,570 --> 00:14:37,630 I know a lot of people probably would have gotten this one correct. 248 00:14:37,630 --> 00:14:38,890 But no one did. 249 00:14:38,890 --> 00:14:41,670 So it did break everyone's streaks I guess. 250 00:14:41,670 --> 00:14:46,530 So if you did have a streak, perhaps Andreas, you are most negatively impacted. 251 00:14:46,530 --> 00:14:49,730 Yeah, see Vic, the reason it crashed was because I knew you would get it right. 252 00:14:49,730 --> 00:14:50,790 And I just could not let you. 253 00:14:53,090 --> 00:14:54,730 Sorry about that everybody. 254 00:14:54,730 --> 00:14:57,090 Luckily that does not change the scoreboard at all. 255 00:14:57,090 --> 00:15:00,150 It resets your streaks, but I guess that is more fair anyway. 256 00:15:02,530 --> 00:15:06,050 But I am just glad that one random person did not select the first option. 257 00:15:06,450 --> 00:15:07,830 We have to decentralize Kahoot! 258 00:15:07,830 --> 00:15:10,610 Yes, I need to have a Kahoot satellite. 259 00:15:10,610 --> 00:15:12,370 A satellite internet connection. 260 00:15:12,370 --> 00:15:14,990 And we all need to be connected to each other of course. 261 00:15:15,090 --> 00:15:19,890 Otherwise we are just going to have to be dealing with this BS that is going on. 262 00:15:21,950 --> 00:15:24,130 I don't know what happened to my internet connection there. 263 00:15:24,130 --> 00:15:27,350 But good thing it happened to me now while playing Kahoot! 264 00:15:27,410 --> 00:15:29,050 Instead of when it actually mattered. 265 00:15:29,050 --> 00:15:31,050 When someone else's talk was on. 266 00:15:31,330 --> 00:15:33,650 Okay, looks like we are back to normal though. 267 00:15:33,650 --> 00:15:35,890 I am going to move on to the next question. 268 00:15:35,890 --> 00:15:40,230 On what day will the next Monero network upgrade occur? 269 00:15:40,230 --> 00:15:46,110 October 1st, October 17th, October 31st, or November 1st 270 00:15:53,140 --> 00:15:53,420 ? 271 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,740 People are getting their responses in pretty quickly. 272 00:15:55,740 --> 00:15:56,560 That is good. 273 00:16:00,570 --> 00:16:02,970 Remember, there is a stream delay. 274 00:16:11,180 --> 00:16:14,720 Okay, October 17th is the correct answer. 275 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,300 It is not the 31st, it is not the 1st. 276 00:16:16,300 --> 00:16:18,060 It is not the 1st of November either. 277 00:16:18,220 --> 00:16:20,700 That was a tough one, Monero. 278 00:16:20,700 --> 00:16:24,300 You need to pay attention to what is going on in the Monero community sometimes. 279 00:16:25,660 --> 00:16:28,760 We are fun sometimes too. 280 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,080 Hopefully. 281 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,880 We aspire to be fun sometimes. 282 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,720 Congratulations on guessing correctly. 283 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,660 Redacted made its way up six places. 284 00:16:40,660 --> 00:16:45,060 They are trying to eventually compete with Censored. 285 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,100 JW is still in first place. 286 00:16:47,100 --> 00:16:48,420 But Censored moved up. 287 00:16:48,420 --> 00:16:50,340 They are beating Knack right now. 288 00:16:50,340 --> 00:16:55,280 Just because you are a smart researcher, does not mean you waste all your time on Reddit all the time. 289 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,420 Maybe they are not all the same. 290 00:16:59,000 --> 00:16:59,860 I got a message. 291 00:16:59,860 --> 00:17:01,300 It is probably someone complaining. 292 00:17:03,140 --> 00:17:05,360 Knack was answering how to answer trivia. 293 00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:07,200 It looks like they figured it out. 294 00:17:10,060 --> 00:17:11,860 Someone said they misclicked. 295 00:17:13,420 --> 00:17:17,260 You will have to fight your way back up to the top here. 296 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,880 Next question. 297 00:17:22,100 --> 00:17:26,200 Which of the following was implemented in Monero most recently? 298 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,600 Dandelion++, RingCT, Pruning, or LMDB? 299 00:17:34,410 --> 00:17:43,930 I think you will notice that one of these future questions absolutely gives a little bit of extra advantage to others. 300 00:17:44,050 --> 00:17:46,970 To a certain user compared to others. 301 00:17:46,970 --> 00:17:49,470 I will leave it to figure out who it is. 302 00:17:49,470 --> 00:17:51,210 Most people got this one correct. 303 00:17:51,610 --> 00:17:53,530 RingCT is definitely not the right answer. 304 00:17:53,530 --> 00:17:56,650 That was implemented in very early 2017. 305 00:17:56,650 --> 00:17:59,070 Pruning is more recent than RingCT. 306 00:17:59,730 --> 00:18:02,390 Dandelion++ is the most recent. 307 00:18:02,390 --> 00:18:05,310 That was implemented earlier this year. 308 00:18:05,750 --> 00:18:10,850 It was a network upgrade in the sense that there was a major release. 309 00:18:10,850 --> 00:18:17,870 It was Monero's first major release that did not require a network upgrade. 310 00:18:17,870 --> 00:18:20,710 That's pretty exciting history for everyone there. 311 00:18:21,890 --> 00:18:23,190 Pretty cool stuff. 312 00:18:23,190 --> 00:18:25,590 Monero is stabilizing as an ecosystem. 313 00:18:28,570 --> 00:18:30,090 Alright, let's see. 314 00:18:30,090 --> 00:18:31,470 Most people got that one correct. 315 00:18:31,470 --> 00:18:37,150 Looks like no one on the top leaderboard did not get that one correct or answer slower than someone who was not there. 316 00:18:37,390 --> 00:18:41,610 We will have to take this leaderboard into the next round. 317 00:18:41,610 --> 00:18:43,510 JW is still on top. 318 00:18:58,490 --> 00:19:03,930 Now granted, I will admit that I did not know that Nack would play this game. 319 00:19:06,330 --> 00:19:12,890 Some people who want to point fingers might try and claim that I'm biased towards helping them out. 320 00:19:12,890 --> 00:19:14,670 I don't know where they're getting that from. 321 00:19:14,670 --> 00:19:16,530 I don't think that's a fair assessment. 322 00:19:22,100 --> 00:19:26,000 But yes, the correct answer is tagging outputs with a sub-address hash. 323 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,180 This was meant to be the hardest question in the quiz. 324 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:37,140 Nice even split there, but no one thought that they would bin decoy outputs by block, which I'm a little surprised because that's something people have proposed at certain times. 325 00:19:37,140 --> 00:19:40,520 Maybe people acknowledge that that is not a potentially radical idea. 326 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,540 That's one that's been proposed a few times. 327 00:19:42,540 --> 00:19:56,880 In fact, in many external research papers in Monero, they do talk about binning, which basically says when you choose a decoy, choose it in relation to your actual spend in a way to conceivably choose decoys under certain scenarios. 328 00:19:57,620 --> 00:19:59,940 But yes, this is purposely meant to be a tough one. 329 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:03,940 Tagging outputs with a sub-address hash is the actual answer. 330 00:20:03,940 --> 00:20:06,240 Again, this is a very controversial idea. 331 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,280 It will not necessarily be implemented. 332 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,500 There's a bunch of potential advantages and disadvantages. 333 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:16,260 So this one will go through a ton of discussion before anyone even moves on it. 334 00:20:16,940 --> 00:20:19,600 So this may have changed up the leaderboard. 335 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,580 Let's see how much people are paying attention in MRL meetings. 336 00:20:24,620 --> 00:20:26,300 Of course JW got that one correct. 337 00:20:26,300 --> 00:20:28,220 In fact, it did not change the leaderboard at all. 338 00:20:28,220 --> 00:20:29,980 And of course, Knack got that one correct. 339 00:20:29,980 --> 00:20:35,440 You're welcome for the free points, Knack, to get you in closer striking distance of censored and non-various. 340 00:20:36,300 --> 00:20:44,860 But people further down must have gotten that one correct, which means Meow, especially, is at higher risk of being overrun. 341 00:20:44,860 --> 00:20:47,320 So we'll see what happens there. 342 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:57,720 Yeah, someone's sending me questions on Defcon, but it's not relevant to trivia and that's all I care about at the moment. 343 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:02,000 So, JW also has a streak of the last three in a row. 344 00:21:02,140 --> 00:21:03,320 Let's see what the next question is. 345 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,220 Question 10. 346 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,880 What was the original name for the Monero Community Workgroup? 347 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:13,580 Was it the Marketing Workgroup, the Outreach Workgroup, the Developer Workgroup, or the Website Workgroup? 348 00:21:15,620 --> 00:21:19,000 Keeping in mind that the person who started this initiative was not me. 349 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,220 I cannot take credit for this. 350 00:21:20,220 --> 00:21:21,260 It was Diego. 351 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,320 Okay, at least half the people got this one correct. 352 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,260 It was originally the Marketing Workgroup. 353 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:46,880 The Outreach Workgroup is the name for a later formed and currently existing workgroup that took off a bunch of the initial ambitions of... 354 00:21:47,660 --> 00:21:51,200 Yeah, it took up a lot of the initial ambitions of the Marketing Workgroup. 355 00:21:51,200 --> 00:22:01,860 Now, at the time when this workgroup was started, the idea of marketing in Monero in general was very controversial. 356 00:22:02,020 --> 00:22:18,900 A lot of people hated the idea of talking about Monero in anything other than an academic or developer sense because they felt that anything else would diminish Monero compared to all the other, you know, shit coins, so-called, or scams that were out there, 357 00:22:18,900 --> 00:22:19,880 perhaps. 358 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:27,480 And so the Marketing Workgroup initiative at the time was very controversial. 359 00:22:27,820 --> 00:22:33,720 And so we made very clear that the main focus was education to begin with, but even so, a lot of people did not like it. 360 00:22:33,940 --> 00:22:38,860 And after we started, it wasn't that we purposely wanted to drop these initiatives. 361 00:22:38,860 --> 00:22:40,200 That was not the case. 362 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:45,880 But we felt that there wasn't a group that actually just brought people together and talked about stuff as a community. 363 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:51,280 And so we renamed the Community Workgroup in order to best fit what we actually do. 364 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:58,920 And then later down the line, the Outreach Workgroup came up and took the torch for some of those initial ambitions. 365 00:22:59,940 --> 00:23:01,600 Deafling was not the Developer Workgroup. 366 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:10,100 Website Workgroup, I threw that in there just because someone may have known that Diego joined the community based off their desire to improve the website to begin with. 367 00:23:10,740 --> 00:23:19,360 And as Andres says in chat, the Monero Enterprise Alliance Working Group, you know that the Monero Enterprise Alliance was not a thing until what is it? 368 00:23:20,140 --> 00:23:22,680 Early 2017 it must have been. 369 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,840 Yeah, it was during ConsenSys in... no, ConsenSys 2018. 370 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:27,320 Sorry. 371 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:28,820 It was ConsenSys 2018. 372 00:23:28,820 --> 00:23:30,280 So early 2018. 373 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,920 There was an initial working group. 374 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:43,380 It was like some investment focused Monero Workgroup that charged dues and things. 375 00:23:43,380 --> 00:23:45,540 That was really the first of its type. 376 00:23:45,540 --> 00:23:47,800 But they dissolved very early on. 377 00:23:48,220 --> 00:23:53,420 And certainly did not ever call themselves the Marketing or Monero Community Workgroup. 378 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,960 So definitely very unrelated. 379 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,180 Okay, let's see who got this one correct. 380 00:23:58,180 --> 00:24:01,000 Let's see if the top leaderboard changes. 381 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,040 It does! 382 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:02,760 Quite a bit. 383 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,320 Knack is on fire. 384 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,500 Looks like JW got that one incorrect. 385 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,880 So Andres is within striking distance. 386 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:10,820 So is Knack. 387 00:24:10,820 --> 00:24:12,840 They're all within one question of each other. 388 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:18,120 And then within second place, within striking distance of one question, you have Censored and JTBB. 389 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,580 So definitely fun competition going on here. 390 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,640 And not too many questions left either. 391 00:24:25,180 --> 00:24:26,440 Question 11. 392 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,300 What year did Monero first have a DEFCON Village? 393 00:24:29,300 --> 00:24:30,940 Because of course, this is Monero DEFCON Village. 394 00:24:30,940 --> 00:24:33,680 Is it 2017, 2018, 2019, or 2020? 395 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,440 Note that I am not interpreting this strictly. 396 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,800 I am not saying that like... 397 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,860 It was the Monero and the Because Village. 398 00:24:41,860 --> 00:24:45,160 No, it's... I am counting Monero in that. 399 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,620 I'm not saying Monero sole village. 400 00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:58,230 So hopefully someone was not trying to be like, eww, well, actually this... 401 00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:58,890 Nope, nope. 402 00:24:58,890 --> 00:25:01,610 I am being honest here. 403 00:25:01,630 --> 00:25:04,430 2018 is the correct answer here. 404 00:25:04,430 --> 00:25:07,430 Yes, in 2017, it was very unofficial. 405 00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:09,910 There was not an official Monero DEFCON Village. 406 00:25:09,910 --> 00:25:15,290 In fact, you just had a number of individuals who were interested in Monero that attended DEFCON. 407 00:25:15,290 --> 00:25:18,830 Because, as you can imagine... 408 00:25:18,830 --> 00:25:22,790 Well, if you answered before the caveat, 2019 would have been your choice. 409 00:25:23,150 --> 00:25:24,090 Wow, Nero. 410 00:25:24,090 --> 00:25:25,150 So, no. 411 00:25:25,310 --> 00:25:26,690 No, he could not. 412 00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:28,750 2019, it was the Monero Village. 413 00:25:28,750 --> 00:25:30,670 2020 was the Monero Village. 414 00:25:32,110 --> 00:25:35,210 2018, it was the Monero slash Because Village. 415 00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:38,930 Which is the blockchain... 416 00:25:38,930 --> 00:25:41,130 I actually don't remember what it stands for. 417 00:25:42,750 --> 00:25:45,610 Yeah, it's on me for not remembering what it stands for. 418 00:25:46,450 --> 00:25:50,890 2017, a lot of Monero community members were at DEFCON. 419 00:25:50,890 --> 00:25:54,610 I was not one of them because I was not in that hemisphere. 420 00:25:55,170 --> 00:25:57,570 But , um... 421 00:25:57,570 --> 00:26:00,070 It, uh... 422 00:26:00,070 --> 00:26:02,550 Yeah, prompted people to be like, hey, wish we could have a Monero Village. 423 00:26:02,550 --> 00:26:06,350 And at the time, DEFCON seemed very uninterested in having a cryptocurrency village. 424 00:26:06,350 --> 00:26:10,530 But, in 2017, for that latter half, it exploded, of course. 425 00:26:10,670 --> 00:26:17,630 And Monero had a very large representation at DEFCON, and therefore were able to make this wonderful thing that we have right now out of it. 426 00:26:17,630 --> 00:26:18,650 So, that's really cool. 427 00:26:18,890 --> 00:26:21,690 So, let's see what five people got that one correct. 428 00:26:24,110 --> 00:26:25,430 Cake is the highest climber. 429 00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:27,610 You made your way up three places. 430 00:26:27,610 --> 00:26:29,450 So, you're doing something right there. 431 00:26:30,690 --> 00:26:33,110 Censored moved their way up into third place. 432 00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:35,470 They must have answered quicker than Mac. 433 00:26:35,470 --> 00:26:38,350 Remember, you do get extra points by answering quicker. 434 00:26:38,350 --> 00:26:41,690 So, if you know the answer, get that in as soon as possible. 435 00:26:41,690 --> 00:26:45,730 Otherwise, you are giving up three points, and you don't want to lose. 436 00:26:46,650 --> 00:26:47,130 So... 437 00:26:47,130 --> 00:26:51,350 But, it's certainly still anyone's game to see who will win this. 438 00:26:51,810 --> 00:26:53,230 Question 12. 439 00:26:53,230 --> 00:26:57,430 Which of the following was never a Monero minimum or mandatory ring size? 440 00:26:57,430 --> 00:27:00,110 Was it 3, 5, 8, or 11? 441 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:23,600 Okay. 442 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,040 The majority of people got this incorrect, but the most chosen answer was the correct one. 443 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,320 Yes, it is 8. 444 00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:34,940 For some reason, the Monero community is allergic to even numbers. 445 00:27:34,940 --> 00:27:38,140 We only choose odd numbers, and we only choose prime numbers. 446 00:27:38,140 --> 00:27:46,400 The minimum slash mandatory ring sizes have only ever been 3, 5, 7, and 11. 447 00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:49,360 It's just the way it works out. 448 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,020 So, uh... 449 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,300 I mean, you may argue that 0 was the initial one. 450 00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:58,400 It was the original minimum ring size. 451 00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,020 Actually, no. 452 00:27:59,020 --> 00:27:59,520 1. 453 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,600 1, actually. 454 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,500 0 doesn't make any sense. 455 00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:02,500 It would have been 1. 456 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,120 So, uh... 457 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:08,900 Unless you're talking about coin-based outputs, and they're treated kind of technically differently. 458 00:28:08,900 --> 00:28:11,520 And then, if you want to get all super, super technical about it. 459 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,300 But, really, the best answer here is 8. 460 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,820 Which 6 people got correct. 461 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,200 It was good while it lasted. 462 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,300 Oh, Andres, what are you going to do? 463 00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:25,300 I have to say, 8 was one of the numbers I recommended. 464 00:28:25,300 --> 00:28:34,660 When we learned about the possible impact of chain-split attacks in Monero, when splitting coins is a really popular way to pump and dump something. 465 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,800 I recommended a move to ring size 7 or 8. 466 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,320 And we ultimately chose 7 for the additional efficiency. 467 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,400 And also because we have a rule of prime numbers, allegedly. 468 00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:55,260 But, you know, when Monero goes to trip-tick or Arcturus, we might not actually go with the prime number. 469 00:28:55,260 --> 00:28:57,360 We might go with, like, 128. 470 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,700 Which, you know, is divisible by 2. 471 00:28:59,700 --> 00:29:01,180 And, of course, other numbers. 472 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:10,160 We may be shortly dropping this, depending on how quickly certain improvements are made in the Monero protocol. 473 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,260 We may no longer be able to say this. 474 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:18,720 But, in any case, Andres still stays in first place. 475 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,260 Scott makes their way to fifth. 476 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,920 So that's pretty cool. 477 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,460 So, yeah. 478 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,160 Is it a ring if it is just one? 479 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,280 It's more like a point? 480 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,200 Yeah, that's a good question. 481 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:38,900 I don't know if you can actually really call a transaction with only one input a ring, really. 482 00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:41,480 It's like a very sad ring. 483 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:48,460 JW is still on top here, but you have to remember and Cake has the longest streak with three in a row. 484 00:29:48,460 --> 00:29:49,840 So they might be making their way up. 485 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,300 They're going to get the most bonus points if they get the next one correct for the longest streak. 486 00:29:54,540 --> 00:30:00,100 But , the next question is worth twice as many points. 487 00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:01,960 It is the last question. 488 00:30:02,140 --> 00:30:03,480 Winner takes all. 489 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,140 You all best be prepared. 490 00:30:06,780 --> 00:30:07,680 Be ready. 491 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,760 Be ready to click that button once you know the right answer. 492 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,780 I don't know if it'll be easy or hard. 493 00:30:13,780 --> 00:30:19,240 I mean, I do know, but I'm just going to make it stressful as a result because it's fun for me to draw this out. 494 00:30:19,500 --> 00:30:20,680 But let's see what it is. 495 00:30:20,980 --> 00:30:24,040 Last question for all of the bragging rights. 496 00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:25,420 What is it? 497 00:30:25,420 --> 00:30:28,260 True or false? 498 00:30:28,260 --> 00:30:29,700 Double points. 499 00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:32,080 Monero offers ubiquitous privacy. 500 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,760 True or false? 501 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,580 True on the left, false on the right. 502 00:30:35,580 --> 00:30:36,960 What is it? 503 00:30:39,850 --> 00:30:42,070 For double points. 504 00:30:42,970 --> 00:30:51,640 If someone answers one way, I'm just going to like, you deserve not to get these points, I guess. 505 00:30:55,220 --> 00:30:58,580 Like, just for all intents and purposes, mandatory. 506 00:31:00,740 --> 00:31:02,740 Used in all transactions. 507 00:31:03,580 --> 00:31:04,920 Oh, goodness. 508 00:31:07,660 --> 00:31:11,180 Maybe I chose a word that... 509 00:31:13,260 --> 00:31:15,060 Vic read it wrong. 510 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,400 We actually... 511 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,280 This is actually the reading comprehension quiz. 512 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,120 Oh, wow. 513 00:31:31,140 --> 00:31:35,420 Okay, well, apparently this is more of a trick question than I thought. 514 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:45,820 Ubiquitous means like common or implemented widely or every transaction would have this type of privacy. 515 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,880 It's meant to say that every transaction has privacy. 516 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:59,860 I actually like you calling it ubiquitous rather than mandatory because, I mean, Monero has mandatory network privacy, but you can still opt out. 517 00:31:59,860 --> 00:32:05,560 So I usually try to refer to it as ubiquitous because it's, you know, every transaction has this feature. 518 00:32:06,620 --> 00:32:08,220 Breaking Monero. 519 00:32:08,540 --> 00:32:13,620 I'm going to break down this community by just using apparently fancy words here. 520 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,040 But it is... 521 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,680 True is the correct answer. 522 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,280 Apparently I'm an English teacher that just likes to annoy people. 523 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,700 Google Trends for Ubiquitous Spikes. 524 00:32:28,700 --> 00:32:30,920 The like... 525 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:36,520 14 people that participated in this game are going to send off the ubiquitous... 526 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:38,880 Um... 527 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,640 Yeah. 528 00:32:44,380 --> 00:32:46,100 That's funny. 529 00:32:47,180 --> 00:32:48,480 All right. 530 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:54,760 Well, we get to see who finishes in the podium here, which apparently ended up just being an English test. 531 00:32:56,620 --> 00:32:58,560 Let's see who finishes on the podium. 532 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,260 In third place with 8 out of 13 correct, Nack. 533 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,380 Second place, also 8 out of 13, but with more points. 534 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,860 Definitely not NeedMoney90. 535 00:33:07,860 --> 00:33:11,940 And in first place with 9 out of 13, Andres. 536 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:17,100 So, wow, JW must not have gotten it correct. 537 00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:18,720 They were a runner-up. 538 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,840 Wow, after all that time, I'm the top of the podium. 539 00:33:24,460 --> 00:33:27,420 They just... they didn't know a word. 540 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,740 So, darn. 541 00:33:28,740 --> 00:33:29,660 Wow. 542 00:33:29,660 --> 00:33:34,180 It really did shake things up there at the end more than I was expecting. 543 00:33:34,940 --> 00:33:39,480 Y'all are going to be so angry with me as a result of this. 544 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,680 Oh, goodness. 545 00:33:42,380 --> 00:33:44,820 That is hilarious. 546 00:33:44,860 --> 00:33:47,300 That was a lot of fun. 547 00:33:51,060 --> 00:33:52,260 Okay, yeah. 548 00:33:52,260 --> 00:34:03,140 So, Andres, you you offered some great advice during the meme competition, and you, as a result of helping us out then, you deserve first place. 549 00:34:03,140 --> 00:34:05,160 Everyone's saying I have a trick question. 550 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:05,680 You know what? 551 00:34:05,940 --> 00:34:13,780 Ironically, the intent of the last question was actually to get one that everyone would get correct so they would feel good about themselves. 552 00:34:13,780 --> 00:34:17,240 But I think here it just gives people a rant, you know? 553 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:28,160 I am utterly shocked that JW did not finish in the top three. 554 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,060 That is awesome. 555 00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:36,380 Well, now you learned a word about that. 556 00:34:37,720 --> 00:34:40,360 Well, the whole point of this is to have fun. 557 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:45,960 We've actually increased the number of people that have watched the stream as we've continued, at least on YouTube. 558 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,940 So, thank you, everyone, for participating. 559 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:57,240 Please, please, please tell everyone that you had fun with Monero because you've got to find your prize in WoW. 560 00:34:57,240 --> 00:34:58,220 Okay, I see. 561 00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,520 Persistent. 562 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:01,420 I don't know. 563 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:02,280 Persistent. 564 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:08,060 What if you have quantum computing that comes out? 565 00:35:08,060 --> 00:35:12,280 It might not be permanently persistent if you want to be all technical, technical about it. 566 00:35:12,460 --> 00:35:20,380 Or what if all of the ring members that you participate in just happen to all disclose information and then do you really have persistent privacy? 567 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,160 I don't know. 568 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,500 I think ubiquitous is a better term. 569 00:35:26,420 --> 00:35:29,700 Maybe standardized is a different word. 570 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,300 Pervasive, I think, is a good way to put it. 571 00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:36,320 I'll think about using pervasive, but you better all know for next time. 572 00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:39,280 In any case, thank you, everyone, for participating. 573 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,620 This was a ton of fun for me. 574 00:35:40,620 --> 00:35:41,900 You all made it really fun. 575 00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:44,900 Thank you so much for yelling at me, commenting. 576 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,780 The whole, like, it is a blast. 577 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,520 DEF CON is fun when it's fun for everybody. 578 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,160 So , widespread. 579 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,460 That doesn't imply 100% honorees. 580 00:35:56,460 --> 00:36:00,540 I have to really point out that everybody does it. 581 00:36:00,540 --> 00:36:02,120 Which maybe ubiquitous doesn't either. 582 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,600 In any case, I had a ton of fun. 583 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,080 Thank you, everyone, for joining. 584 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,380 It was great. 585 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,800 I will see you tomorrow, hopefully, starting at 10 a.m. 586 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:12,560 Pacific. 587 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,540 Be there or be square. 588 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,940 Bye, everybody.