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0	1960	Get to suffer as I go through them.
2420	5560	Okay, let me start. Get ready.
6960	7840	Kahoot.
10180	11500	Two, one.
11500	12300	Question one.
12300	16920	For the Monero E-A-E attack, what do the letter E's stand for?
16920	20600	Is it epidemic, exchange, elliptic curve, or environment?
20600	24900	Of course, in all of these cases, you should select the best answer.
26260	28780	On your phone, you just have the colors and...
28780	31940	an icon, so you will need to look at the screen.
31940	37080	There is about a five-second delay, so get those answers in as quick as possible.
37080	39500	I'm actually seeing more like a six-second delay.
40740	42360	You're almost out of time.
47680	49200	Wow, okay, yeah.
49200	54160	For the Monero E-A-E attack, the correct answer is the exchange.
55180	61100	E-A-E typically refers to a single user, at least in the case of E-A-E, with just one letter A in the middle,
61100	66380	where a user will take funds from one exchange and send it to another colluding exchange.
66380	72560	It does not have to be an exchange, but however, that's what the general name comes from.
72560	79320	The idea that you are KYC'd on two exchanges that would collude to potentially understand
79320	85620	that the Monero originated from the original exchange and ended up in the second exchange entity.
85620	87780	So exchange is the best answer there.
87780	92740	Elliptic curve is a cryptography term, and all the fancy-schmancy people chose that one,
92740	98120	but I think that, yeah, the E-A-E does not refer to cryptography.
98120	102860	It just refers to a limitation in targeted surveillance in Monero.
102860	111860	If you are interested in learning more, there is a Breaking Monero episode on E-A-E or the Poisoned Output attack.
111860	115980	A lot of these attacks are very similar. They're all derived from the same type of idea,
115980	121480	where you are engaging with colluding entities, so you should be a little bit careful there.
122000	124480	And yes, as NeedMoney90 says, please like and subscribe.
124480	127740	This is a typical S.H.I.E.L.D. channel. Let me insert an ad break here.
127740	129140	Just kidding, we're not affiliated.
129140	136100	I even turned off the setting where users on this channel, if...
136100	139400	I mean, I don't think people see ads. I'm not getting any money from Google.
139400	143060	But even if they did, they would not also see personalized ads.
143060	148740	I am getting less money than I already am not getting, so you're welcome.
149300	152880	Any case, let's see who scored well in these.
153960	158300	Knack answered the fastest, so they are on the top of the leaderboard.
158300	162460	They have 909 points, so congratulations, Knack.
162460	164720	Censored got that correct. JW got it correct.
164720	169380	J-T-B-V, which is really hard for me to say, because these letters are way too similar.
171200	173360	But yeah, four on the top of the leaderboard.
173360	175560	Scott, for some reason, is still on the leaderboard.
175560	178480	Scott, how did you not get that one? Come on, Scott, you should have known.
178480	180240	Scott, I'm disappointed in you.
181120	186060	All right. Also note, you get extra points, not just for answering quickly and correctly,
186060	188240	but by answering several correct in a row.
188240	193060	So you've got to get these long, correct answers in a row here.
193060	197680	Vic clearly is not as good at trivia as he is at making memes.
197680	202160	So, Vic, I'm watching out for you. You better get a few of these in.
202760	205100	Scott is now banned from DEF CON. Honestly, yes.
205100	206720	Scott, come on. Come on, Scott.
207460	209820	All right, question two. Maybe you'll do better on this one.
209880	212580	What does Monero most closely mean in Esperanto?
213640	216200	Money, cash, coin, or private?
220450	221150	Roasted, yeah.
221150	225630	The whole point of this is basically just to adjust and free-for-all roasting people.
226530	229490	Ultimately, the entire motivation I have behind this.
229490	233270	And no one else is in Jitsi with me to complain.
234310	237290	All right, we got a nice split here.
237290	242950	So, I was playing the long con here, actually, for a few reasons.
242950	248130	One, I gave this same question during the Moneroversary.
248130	251470	At least, if I have good memory, I guess you can check me on that.
251810	256010	But, yeah, most people got it wrong then, so I reuse the same question now.
256010	260870	And I also released a movie called Monero Means Money.
260870	264190	And it does not actually translate to money.
264190	267770	It does instead translate to coin in Esperanto.
267770	270770	That is when Monero first launched.
270770	275130	It did not launch as the name Monero. It launched as the name Bit Monero.
275130	279650	So, translated, basically, it was meant to mean Bit Coin.
279650	282470	You know, Esperanto, for some reason.
283730	287510	Esperanto, of course, is the world's most spoken constructed language.
287510	291610	It is not one that was just spoken by people for a long time.
291610	293530	It's a relatively recent language.
293570	298490	And it's meant to be one that everyone could use as a neutral constructed language.
298910	301970	But coin is the best answer here.
302150	304150	So, let's see who got this one correct.
304710	306810	Looks like someone else said that they got rekt.
306810	309170	X, X, sorry, X, X, X, X.
309170	313830	But, first place, still knack, got that one correct.
313830	315510	Censored, Need Money 90, still on there.
315510	317030	JW killing it.
317370	318850	Scott got that one correct.
318850	323790	And they moved up from their undeserved fifth place to fourth place.
323790	327150	And then JTBV on the board now.
327310	329210	Looks like they did not get that one correct, though.
329210	331110	Because they got the previous one correct.
331110	333590	So, really, Scott was the one who answered that one correctly.
334490	338110	All right, let's see how people do in the next question here.
338670	343070	Question three, what does the C in CLSAG stand for?
343170	347010	Is it circular, compact, concise, or cooperative?
355730	361830	People who were on for the MRL hour, office hours, earlier, hopefully know the answer to this one.
372660	374740	I always like watching these because...
374740	382540	All right, I just want to point out that for my quiz so far, the majority of people have answered incorrectly to every single one of these.
383200	385400	So clearly I'm doing something right.
386420	389240	But in no case has no one got it correct.
389460	393920	Actually, if you chose compact, you shouldn't feel too bad.
393920	397020	Because originally in MRL, they wanted to call it compact.
397020	398360	But they got some pushback.
398360	401720	They got a lot of saying, well, it's not compact technically.
401720	407080	Because compact technically is supposed to have these guidelines if you're following other papers, yada, yada, yada, yada.
407080	412700	And you're right, in a general use term, no one actually cares.
412700	415520	But cryptographers are a bunch of picky bunch.
415520	418640	And therefore, they decided to name it concise.
418740	422480	Because it met the other cryptography definitions.
422480	425040	Concise is what it actually is called.
425220	427280	So it's not cooperative. It's not circular.
427280	431540	I did throw that one in there in case someone thought it would be related to the circular ring.
431540	435700	But in fact, ring signatures are not actually the form of a circle.
435700	439320	They don't store actual pictures of blockchains in here.
439480	441520	Yeah, you're right. Knack probably got this one correct.
441520	446880	If Knack did not get this one correct, I think we can make fun of him more than anyone else that doesn't get these correct.
448200	448920	What?
451040	453940	Doug had defied your expectations there.
453940	455860	I would have bet money.
456400	462780	Maybe they went to the bathroom or something and weren't looking at the screen at the time.
462780	465820	Or misclicked as a result of you allegedly misclicking, Doug.
465820	468700	But Andres got that one correct. Meow got that one correct.
468700	472020	And Rottenkwinkus got that one correct, too.
475140	477720	JW censored Knack. Still remained at the top, though.
477720	480820	But Scott was punched off the leaderboard.
480820	483500	And yet, Knack is a researcher. So maybe they would know.
484940	488900	Alright, so this is pretty fun. It's still anyone's game at this point.
488900	492520	Of course, remember the last question alone is worth 2,000 points.
492520	494240	So, you never know.
494240	500560	Question 4. In its entire history, how many Monero transactions have hit the sender, receiver, and amount?
500560	506880	Is it about 6,500, 65,000, 650,000, or 6,500,000?
507360	510400	What is the closest answer here?
511640	514360	Not all Monero transactions in all of history.
514360	517060	Just ones that have hit the sender, receiver, and amount.
517060	522040	Noting that in the past, when Monero first launched, up until RingCT was a thing,
522040	525260	Monero did not hide the transaction amount.
525780	527880	Because it was just denominated.
527880	529640	Pretty poorly, honestly.
530060	533500	I don't know if everyone got the question in time there.
533500	537020	Make sure you are keeping track of the timer on the left
537020	539300	and note that there is at least a 5 second delay.
539300	542880	So get those answers in as quick as you can.
542980	545900	Yes, the answer is 6.5 million.
545900	549240	Which again, the majority of people did not get correct.
549320	551900	Maybe they just saw the highest number and were like,
551900	553540	Nah, that can't be true.
553540	557560	But yes, almost, at least as of last month,
557560	559920	it was over 6.2 million.
559980	563820	So yeah, about 6.5 million transactions in Monero
563820	566060	have hit the sender, receiver, and amount.
566060	568280	These are all RingCT transactions.
568400	569960	So that is pretty cool.
571080	576760	Well, if you did in fact have 2 million transactions alone,
576760	579520	that would not bode especially well
579520	582180	for traceability with low ring sizes.
582180	583740	With 11, we are probably fine.
583740	585380	But I would be pretty suspicious.
585380	587280	That is pretty much attack level there.
587320	590060	Maybe certain mining pools collectively have those.
591280	593280	Oh, let's see what other comments are coming in.
593280	595100	Anyone who has synced the blockchain on the terminal
595100	597480	will know how slow the later blocks are to sync.
597480	598880	Yeah, that is mostly a RingCT thing.
598880	602040	But luckily, CLSAG will definitely speed that up
602040	604220	for future transactions going forward.
604220	606660	And even so, Bulletproofs are much faster to verify.
607240	609880	Serang did this really awesome thing where he was just
609880	611000	looking at code and was like,
611000	614100	Wow, I found a way to make all Bulletproof transactions
614100	616920	much faster to verify even retroactively
616920	618840	by just being more efficient.
618840	622000	Because people just pull these optimizations out of nowhere
622000	624200	when you are a genius like they are.
624420	627140	Obviously, I am not a genius. I just make quizzes for people
627140	629240	and get them wrong half the time.
629260	632200	So yes, 6.5 million is the correct answer.
632200	635580	If you were watching some of my talks in the past,
635580	637200	one of which is on this channel,
637200	640060	I did reference over 6 million transactions.
640160	643040	So that is where I got the inspiration for this question.
645040	646300	Yeah, but it should be efficient.
646300	649640	We are doing our damn best to make sure it is as efficient as possible.
651200	653840	Oh, JW got that one correct.
653840	655620	Nat got that one incorrect.
657000	659520	I don't think Doug got this one correct either.
659800	663040	NeedMoney90 censored. Totally not the same set of people.
663040	668020	JW, I know that your life is basically just knowing crypto trivia.
668020	669540	It is basically your full-time job.
669540	671160	You don't need to convince me otherwise.
671160	674360	I know. But Andres, you got the last three correct.
674360	676740	So look at you. You are killing it too.
677020	679480	Still anybody's game here, really.
679480	681580	We have a ton of questions left.
682800	686700	Basically, yes. It basically is. Do not deny it.
686800	688140	Question 5.
692340	693480	Not how.
696860	699820	Okay, that is the freebie. I have to throw these in here.
699820	701760	What is the best answer here?
703920	705060	Not how.
705300	706980	See, I am making mistakes all the time.
706980	707940	It should be which.
711440	713380	Come on. Get those answers in.
713380	715680	Whose channel? Get it in.
716860	719600	And if you are watching now and want to join in this...
719600	721140	I mean, I was going to call it fun.
721140	724280	But I was instead going to call it rant slash chaos.
724280	728060	You can join going to Kahoot.it, game pin 354661.
728400	731980	People are doing so poorly that you can probably still beat a lot of them.
732060	734700	Manero says no is the best answer here.
734740	737940	You know what? NeedMoney90, that is not verifiable.
737940	740180	So I am going to call BS on that one.
740180	744840	And I am going to think that Manero says no is still probably the best answer here.
745440	748640	This is just basically my low-effort chill here.
748640	751400	Just to give people some chance of getting on the leaderboard.
751400	753820	And one person apparently threw that one away anyway.
754180	757120	So a lot of people are getting free points here. Thank goodness.
757180	758520	Bitconnect is the highest climb.
758520	760940	We are making our way up five places.
760940	765300	That means we are going to explode over the next few rounds.
765300	766100	And then die.
766100	768320	I am not getting anything correct.
768600	770960	So there is that going for it.
772080	774020	We are still on the top of the leaderboard.
774020	777620	Still only within three questions.
779940	783280	So let us see what the next question is.
783280	784440	Question six.
784640	787920	What is the name of Manero's current mining algorithm?
788200	789400	His name is Bitconnect.
837370	838950	Okay, whole fan back.
838950	840550	I do not know what happened there.
840550	842250	But luckily no one got it correct.
842290	843970	We are fine.
846230	847550	Screw you.
850170	852250	Okay, so we had a question that came in.
852250	854970	What was the name of Manero's current mining algorithm?
855330	858610	One person guessed by just clicking a random button.
858610	860450	And they did not get it correct.
861270	863090	I genuinely do not know what happened.
863090	864830	My internet just totally dropped out.
864830	866610	I think the stream was out too.
866770	868950	So very odd stuff.
869870	871130	Gotta love Comcast.
871130	873430	I had to switch to Comcast after I moved.
873570	877630	I know a lot of people probably would have gotten this one correct.
877630	878890	But no one did.
878890	881670	So it did break everyone's streaks I guess.
881670	886530	So if you did have a streak, perhaps Andreas, you are most negatively impacted.
886530	889730	Yeah, see Vic, the reason it crashed was because I knew you would get it right.
889730	890790	And I just could not let you.
893090	894730	Sorry about that everybody.
894730	897090	Luckily that does not change the scoreboard at all.
897090	900150	It resets your streaks, but I guess that is more fair anyway.
902530	906050	But I am just glad that one random person did not select the first option.
906450	907830	We have to decentralize Kahoot!
907830	910610	Yes, I need to have a Kahoot satellite.
910610	912370	A satellite internet connection.
912370	914990	And we all need to be connected to each other of course.
915090	919890	Otherwise we are just going to have to be dealing with this BS that is going on.
921950	924130	I don't know what happened to my internet connection there.
924130	927350	But good thing it happened to me now while playing Kahoot!
927410	929050	Instead of when it actually mattered.
929050	931050	When someone else's talk was on.
931330	933650	Okay, looks like we are back to normal though.
933650	935890	I am going to move on to the next question.
935890	940230	On what day will the next Monero network upgrade occur?
940230	953420	October 1st, October 17th, October 31st, or November 1st?
953840	955740	People are getting their responses in pretty quickly.
955740	956560	That is good.
960570	962970	Remember, there is a stream delay.
971180	974720	Okay, October 17th is the correct answer.
974720	976300	It is not the 31st, it is not the 1st.
976300	978060	It is not the 1st of November either.
978220	980700	That was a tough one, Monero.
980700	984300	You need to pay attention to what is going on in the Monero community sometimes.
985660	988760	We are fun sometimes too.
989040	990080	Hopefully.
990080	991880	We aspire to be fun sometimes.
992400	995720	Congratulations on guessing correctly.
997960	1000660	Redacted made its way up six places.
1000660	1005060	They are trying to eventually compete with Censored.
1005440	1007100	JW is still in first place.
1007100	1008420	But Censored moved up.
1008420	1010340	They are beating Knack right now.
1010340	1012440	Just because you are a smart researcher,
1012440	1015280	does not mean you waste all your time on Reddit all the time.
1016400	1018420	Maybe they are not all the same.
1019000	1019860	I got a message.
1019860	1021300	It is probably someone complaining.
1023140	1025360	Knack was answering how to answer trivia.
1025360	1027200	It looks like they figured it out.
1030060	1031860	Someone said they misclicked.
1033420	1037260	You will have to fight your way back up to the top here.
1039080	1040880	Next question.
1042100	1046200	Which of the following was implemented in Monero most recently?
1046720	1050600	Dandelion++, RingCT, Pruning, or LMDB?
1054410	1057270	I think you will notice that one of these future questions
1057270	1061230	absolutely gives a little bit of extra
1062330	1063930	advantage to others.
1064050	1066970	To a certain user compared to others.
1066970	1069470	I will leave it to figure out who it is.
1069470	1071210	Most people got this one correct.
1071610	1073530	RingCT is definitely not the right answer.
1073530	1076650	That was implemented in very early 2017.
1076650	1079070	Pruning is more recent than RingCT.
1079730	1082390	Dandelion++ is the most recent.
1082390	1085310	That was implemented earlier this year.
1085750	1089790	It was a network upgrade in the sense that
1089790	1090850	there was a major release.
1090850	1095450	It was Monero's first major release
1095450	1097870	that did not require a network upgrade.
1097870	1100710	That's pretty exciting history for everyone there.
1101890	1103190	Pretty cool stuff.
1103190	1105590	Monero is stabilizing as an ecosystem.
1108570	1110090	Alright, let's see.
1110090	1111470	Most people got that one correct.
1111470	1114270	Looks like no one on the top leaderboard did not get that one correct
1114270	1117150	or answer slower than someone who was not there.
1117390	1121610	We will have to take this leaderboard into the next round.
1121610	1123510	JW is still on top.
1138490	1141490	Now granted, I will admit that I did not know
1141490	1143930	that Nack would play this game.
1146330	1148550	Some people who want to point fingers
1148550	1151730	might try and claim that I'm biased
1151730	1154670	towards helping them out. I don't know where they're getting that from.
1154670	1156530	I don't think that's a fair assessment.
1162100	1166000	But yes, the correct answer is tagging outputs with a sub-address hash.
1166000	1168180	This was meant to be the hardest question in the quiz.
1168960	1171200	Nice even split there, but no one thought
1171200	1174260	that they would bin decoy outputs by block, which I'm a little surprised
1174260	1177140	because that's something people have proposed at certain times.
1177140	1180520	Maybe people acknowledge that that is not a potentially radical idea.
1180520	1182540	That's one that's been proposed a few times.
1182540	1186940	In fact, in many external research papers in Monero, they do talk about binning,
1186940	1190040	which basically says when you choose a decoy,
1190040	1192020	choose it in relation to your actual spend
1192020	1195560	in a way to conceivably choose decoys
1195560	1196880	under certain scenarios.
1197620	1199940	But yes, this is purposely meant to be a tough one.
1199960	1203940	Tagging outputs with a sub-address hash is the actual answer.
1203940	1208280	Again, this is a very controversial idea. It will not necessarily be implemented.
1208320	1211500	There's a bunch of potential advantages and disadvantages.
1211560	1214220	So this one will go through a ton of discussion
1214220	1216260	before anyone even moves on it.
1216940	1219600	So this may have changed up the leaderboard.
1219600	1223580	Let's see how much people are paying attention in MRL meetings.
1224620	1226300	Of course JW got that one correct.
1226300	1228220	In fact, it did not change the leaderboard at all.
1228220	1229980	And of course, Knack got that one correct.
1229980	1233320	You're welcome for the free points, Knack, to get you in closer striking distance
1233320	1235440	of censored and non-various.
1236300	1238600	But people further down must have gotten that one correct,
1238600	1241860	which means Meow, especially,
1241860	1244860	is at higher risk of being overrun.
1244860	1247320	So we'll see what happens there.
1251280	1253140	Yeah, someone's sending me questions on
1254220	1257720	Defcon, but it's not relevant to trivia and that's all I care about at the moment.
1257720	1260880	So, JW also has a streak
1260880	1263320	of the last three in a row. Let's see what the next question is.
1263320	1266760	Question 10. What was the original name for the Monero Community
1267220	1269480	Workgroup? Was it the Marketing Workgroup,
1269480	1272660	the Outreach Workgroup, the Developer Workgroup, or the Website
1272660	1273580	Workgroup?
1275620	1279000	Keeping in mind that the person who started this initiative was not me.
1279000	1281260	I cannot take credit for this. It was Diego.
1288400	1290100	Okay, at least half the people
1290100	1292920	got this one correct. It was originally the Marketing
1292920	1296420	Workgroup. The Outreach Workgroup is the name
1296420	1299060	for a later formed and currently
1299060	1302300	existing workgroup that took off
1302720	1305120	a bunch of the initial ambitions
1306220	1306880	of...
1307660	1311200	Yeah, it took up a lot of the initial ambitions of the Marketing Workgroup.
1311200	1314420	Now, at the time when this workgroup was started,
1314420	1317080	the idea of marketing in Monero in
1317080	1320380	general was very
1320380	1323500	controversial. A lot of people hated the idea
1323500	1326320	of talking about Monero in anything other
1326320	1329340	than an academic or developer
1329340	1332160	sense because they felt that anything else would diminish Monero compared
1332160	1335140	to all the other, you know, shit
1335140	1338120	coins, so-called, or scams
1338120	1340340	that were out there, perhaps. And so
1343020	1343700	the
1344160	1346400	Marketing Workgroup initiative at the time was very
1346400	1349740	controversial. And so we made very clear that the main focus
1349740	1352860	was education to begin with, but even so, a lot of people did not
1352860	1356000	like it. And after we started, it wasn't
1356000	1358860	that we purposely wanted to drop these initiatives.
1358860	1361900	That was not the case. But we felt that there wasn't
1362080	1364800	a group that actually just brought people together and talked about stuff
1364800	1368100	as a community. And so we renamed the Community
1368100	1371280	Workgroup in order to best fit what we actually do.
1371280	1373600	And then later down the line, the Outreach
1374080	1376740	Workgroup came up and took the torch for some of those
1377240	1378920	initial ambitions.
1379940	1383000	Deafling was not the Developer Workgroup. Website Workgroup, I threw that in there
1383000	1385480	just because someone may have known that Diego
1386040	1388900	joined the community based off their desire to improve the website
1388900	1391780	to begin with. And as Andres says
1391780	1394780	in chat, the Monero Enterprise Alliance Working Group, you know
1394780	1397880	that the Monero Enterprise Alliance was not a thing until
1397880	1400700	what is it? Early
1401420	1404120	2017 it must have been. Yeah, it was during ConsenSys
1404800	1407320	in... no, ConsenSys 2018. Sorry.
1407320	1410280	It was ConsenSys 2018. So early 2018.
1413440	1415620	There was an initial
1415620	1418820	working group. It was like some investment
1418820	1422200	focused Monero Workgroup that charged dues
1422200	1425080	and things. That was really the first of its
1425080	1427800	type. But they dissolved very early on.
1428220	1431320	And certainly did not ever call themselves the Marketing
1431320	1433420	or Monero Community Workgroup.
1433800	1435960	So definitely very unrelated.
1436440	1440000	Okay, let's see who got this one correct. Let's see if the top leaderboard
1440000	1442760	changes. It does! Quite a bit.
1442760	1445700	Knack is on fire. Looks like JW
1445700	1448840	got that one incorrect. So Andres is within
1448840	1452840	striking distance. So is Knack. They're all within one question of each other.
1452840	1455900	And then within second place, within striking distance of one question,
1455900	1458520	you have Censored and JTBB. So
1458520	1461580	definitely fun competition going on here.
1462280	1464640	And not too many questions left either.
1465180	1467820	Question 11. What year did Monero first have
1467980	1470940	a DEFCON Village? Because of course, this is Monero DEFCON Village.
1470940	1473680	Is it 2017, 2018, 2019, or 2020?
1473680	1476940	Note that I am not interpreting this strictly. I am not
1476940	1478800	saying that like...
1478800	1481860	It was the Monero and the Because Village.
1481860	1484720	No, it's... I am counting Monero
1484720	1487620	in that. I'm not saying Monero sole village.
1493190	1495550	So hopefully someone was not trying to be
1495550	1498230	like, eww, well, actually this...
1498230	1501610	Nope, nope. I am being honest here.
1501630	1504430	2018 is the correct answer here.
1504430	1507430	Yes, in 2017, it was very unofficial.
1507430	1510390	There was not an official Monero DEFCON Village. In fact,
1510390	1513230	you just had a number of individuals who were
1513230	1516250	interested in Monero that attended DEFCON. Because, as you
1516250	1518830	can imagine...
1518830	1522790	Well, if you answered before the caveat, 2019 would have been your choice.
1523150	1525150	Wow, Nero. So, no.
1525310	1528750	No, he could not. 2019, it was the Monero Village.
1528750	1530670	2020 was the Monero Village.
1532110	1535210	2018, it was the Monero slash Because Village.
1536070	1536930	Which is the
1538570	1538930	blockchain...
1538930	1541130	I actually don't remember what it stands for.
1542750	1545610	Yeah, it's on me for not remembering what it stands for.
1546450	1547850	2017, a lot of Monero
1549270	1551790	community members were at DEFCON. I was not one of them
1551790	1554610	because I was not in that hemisphere.
1555170	1557570	But, um...
1557570	1560070	It, uh...
1560070	1563510	Yeah, prompted people to be like, hey, wish we could have a Monero Village. And at the time, DEFCON
1563510	1566350	seemed very uninterested in having a cryptocurrency village.
1566350	1570530	But, in 2017, for that latter half, it exploded, of course.
1570670	1572850	And Monero had a very large representation
1572850	1575730	at DEFCON, and therefore were able to make this wonderful
1575730	1578650	thing that we have right now out of it. So, that's really cool.
1578890	1581690	So, let's see what five people got that one correct.
1584110	1587610	Cake is the highest climber. You made your way up three places.
1587610	1589450	So, you're doing something right there.
1590690	1593110	Censored moved their way up into third place.
1593110	1595470	They must have answered quicker than Mac.
1595470	1598350	Remember, you do get extra points by answering quicker.
1598350	1601690	So, if you know the answer, get that in as soon as possible.
1601690	1605730	Otherwise, you are giving up three points, and you don't want to lose.
1606650	1607130	So...
1607130	1611350	But, it's certainly still anyone's game to see who will win this.
1611810	1613230	Question 12.
1613230	1617430	Which of the following was never a Monero minimum or mandatory ring size?
1617430	1620110	Was it 3, 5, 8, or 11?
1642600	1643600	Okay.
1644840	1649040	The majority of people got this incorrect, but the most chosen answer was the correct one.
1649040	1650320	Yes, it is 8.
1650500	1654940	For some reason, the Monero community is allergic to even numbers.
1654940	1658140	We only choose odd numbers, and we only choose prime numbers.
1658140	1660900	The minimum slash mandatory ring sizes
1660900	1662760	have only ever been
1662760	1666400	3, 5, 7, and 11.
1667500	1669360	It's just the way it works out.
1670840	1672020	So, uh...
1672560	1676300	I mean, you may argue that 0 was the initial one.
1676300	1678400	It was the original minimum ring size.
1678400	1682500	Actually, no. 1. 1, actually. 0 doesn't make any sense. It would have been 1.
1683880	1685120	So, uh...
1685120	1688900	Unless you're talking about coin-based outputs, and they're treated kind of technically differently.
1688900	1691520	And then, if you want to get all super, super technical about it.
1691520	1694300	But, really, the best answer here is 8.
1694920	1696820	Which 6 people got correct.
1697880	1699200	It was good while it lasted.
1699200	1701300	Oh, Andres, what are you going to do?
1702360	1705300	I have to say, 8 was one of the numbers I recommended.
1705300	1709600	When we learned about the possible impact of chain-split attacks
1709600	1712920	in Monero, when splitting coins is a really popular way
1712920	1714660	to pump and dump something.
1717040	1718840	I recommended a move to
1718840	1720800	ring size 7 or 8.
1720800	1722720	And we ultimately chose 7
1722720	1725320	for the additional efficiency.
1725320	1728400	And also because we have a rule of prime numbers, allegedly.
1728700	1731500	But, you know, when Monero goes to trip-tick
1731500	1735260	or Arcturus, we might not actually go with the prime number.
1735260	1737360	We might go with, like, 128.
1737360	1739700	Which, you know, is divisible by 2.
1739700	1741180	And, of course, other numbers.
1742160	1746280	We may be shortly dropping this, depending on
1746280	1750160	how quickly certain improvements are made in the Monero protocol.
1750320	1752260	We may no longer be able to say this.
1752920	1754700	But, in any case,
1755920	1758720	Andres still stays in first place.
1758920	1761260	Scott makes their way to fifth.
1761560	1762920	So that's pretty cool.
1764400	1765460	So, yeah.
1767240	1770280	Is it a ring if it is just one? It's more like a point?
1770280	1773700	Yeah, that's a good question. I don't know if you can actually really call
1775340	1777100	a transaction with only one input
1777820	1780060	a ring, really. It's like a
1780060	1783760	very sad ring.
1783760	1785900	JW is still on top here, but you have to remember
1786580	1788520	and Cake has the longest streak with three in a row.
1788520	1791580	So they might be making their way up. They're going to get the most bonus points
1791580	1794820	if they get the next one correct for the longest streak.
1795380	1798020	But, the next question
1798020	1800100	is worth twice as many points.
1800100	1803480	It is the last question. Winner takes all.
1803480	1805140	You all best be prepared.
1806780	1809040	Be ready. Be ready to click that button
1809040	1810760	once you know the right answer.
1811920	1815120	I don't know if it'll be easy or hard. I mean, I do know, but I'm just going to make it
1815120	1818020	stressful as a result because it's fun for me to
1818020	1820680	draw this out. But let's see what it is.
1820980	1824040	Last question for all of the bragging rights.
1824300	1825420	What is it?
1825420	1828260	True or false?
1828260	1832080	Double points. Monero offers ubiquitous privacy.
1832080	1834560	True or false? True on the left,
1834560	1836960	false on the right. What is it?
1839850	1842070	For double points.
1842970	1847660	If someone answers one way,
1847660	1850640	I'm just going to like, you deserve not to get these points,
1850640	1851640	I guess.
1855220	1856500	Like,
1856500	1858580	just for all intents and purposes, mandatory.
1860740	1862740	Used in all transactions.
1863580	1864920	Oh, goodness.
1867660	1868680	Maybe I chose
1868920	1871180	a word that...
1873260	1875060	Vic read it wrong.
1878280	1879400	We actually...
1879400	1880620	This is actually the reading
1880620	1882280	comprehension quiz.
1889400	1891120	Oh, wow.
1891140	1892560	Okay, well,
1892560	1895420	apparently this is more of a trick question than I thought.
1896480	1898120	Ubiquitous means like common
1898120	1900720	or implemented widely
1900720	1904120	or every transaction would have
1904120	1905820	this type of privacy.
1907600	1910040	It's meant to say that every transaction has
1911120	1913580	privacy. I actually like you calling it ubiquitous
1913580	1916600	rather than mandatory because, I mean,
1916600	1919860	Monero has mandatory network privacy, but you can still opt out.
1919860	1922440	So I usually try to refer to it as ubiquitous because
1922440	1925560	it's, you know, every transaction has this feature.
1926620	1928220	Breaking Monero.
1928540	1931200	I'm going to break down this community by just using
1931200	1933620	apparently fancy words here.
1935000	1936040	But it is...
1937360	1939680	True is the correct answer.
1939680	1942260	Apparently I'm an English teacher
1942260	1944280	that just likes to annoy people.
1944960	1948700	Google Trends for Ubiquitous Spikes.
1948700	1950920	The like...
1951680	1954320	14 people that participated in this game are going to
1954320	1956520	send off the ubiquitous...
1958160	1958880	Um...
1962200	1963640	Yeah.
1964380	1966100	That's funny.
1967180	1970540	All right. Well, we get to see who finishes in the podium
1970540	1973240	here, which apparently ended up just being an
1973240	1974760	English test.
1976620	1979340	Let's see who finishes on the podium. In third place
1979340	1982260	with 8 out of 13 correct, Nack.
1982600	1985440	Second place, also 8 out of 13, but with more
1985440	1988480	points. Definitely not NeedMoney90. And in first
1988480	1991940	place with 9 out of 13, Andres.
1991960	1994000	So, wow, JW
1994000	1998720	must not have gotten it correct. They were a runner-up.
1998840	2001280	Wow, after all that time, I'm
2001280	2003840	the top of the podium.
2004460	2007420	They just... they didn't know a word.
2007800	2009660	So, darn. Wow.
2009660	2013100	It really did shake things up there at the end more than I was
2013100	2016080	expecting. Y'all are going to be
2016080	2019480	so angry with me as a result of this.
2020120	2021680	Oh, goodness.
2022380	2024820	That is hilarious.
2024860	2027300	That was a lot of fun.
2031060	2033560	Okay, yeah. So, Andres, you
2035180	2037040	you offered some great advice
2037040	2040040	during the meme competition, and you, as a result
2040040	2043140	of helping us out then, you deserve first place.
2043140	2045680	Everyone's saying I have a trick question. You know what?
2045940	2048700	Ironically, the intent of the last question
2048700	2051440	was actually to get one that everyone would get correct
2051440	2054540	so they would feel good about themselves. But I think here
2054540	2057240	it just gives people a rant, you know?
2062160	2064580	I am utterly shocked
2064580	2067780	that JW did not finish in the top
2067780	2070060	three. That is awesome.
2072700	2076380	Well, now you learned a word about that.
2077720	2080360	Well, the whole point of this is to have fun.
2080360	2082680	We've actually increased the number of people that have watched the stream
2082680	2085960	as we've continued, at least on YouTube.
2085960	2087940	So, thank you, everyone, for participating.
2088320	2091340	Please, please, please tell everyone that you had fun with Monero
2091340	2093500	because you've got to
2094280	2097240	find your prize in WoW.
2097240	2099520	Okay, I see. Persistent.
2100840	2102280	I don't know. Persistent.
2103560	2105280	What if you have
2106440	2109660	quantum computing that comes out? It might not be permanently persistent
2109660	2112280	if you want to be all technical, technical about it.
2112460	2115740	Or what if all of the ring members that you participate in
2115740	2119040	just happen to all disclose information and then do you really have
2119040	2120380	persistent privacy?
2121040	2124500	I don't know. I think ubiquitous is a better term.
2126420	2129700	Maybe standardized is a different word.
2130160	2132300	Pervasive, I think, is a good way to put it.
2132300	2136320	I'll think about using pervasive, but you better all know for next time.
2136700	2139280	In any case, thank you, everyone, for participating.
2139280	2141900	This was a ton of fun for me. You all made it really fun.
2141900	2144900	Thank you so much for yelling at me, commenting.
2145120	2147780	The whole, like, it is a blast.
2148200	2150520	DEF CON is fun when it's fun for everybody.
2150920	2153160	So, widespread.
2153840	2156460	That doesn't imply 100% honorees.
2156460	2160540	I have to really point out that everybody does it.
2160540	2162120	Which maybe ubiquitous doesn't either.
2162120	2166080	In any case, I had a ton of fun. Thank you, everyone, for joining.
2166080	2168400	It was great. I will see you
2169180	2172560	tomorrow, hopefully, starting at 10 a.m. Pacific.
2172560	2174540	Be there or be square.
2175000	2176940	Bye, everybody.