WEBVTT 00:03.270 --> 00:09.150 Okay, well, welcome everybody to DEFCON 30, the DEFCON Group's VR Village. 00:09.410 --> 00:10.890 We're really happy that you're here. 00:10.890 --> 00:11.570 We're excited. 00:11.570 --> 00:12.730 We're going to be having some talks. 00:12.730 --> 00:16.510 People have asked if these are actual regular DEFCON talks, and yes, they are. 00:16.510 --> 00:18.370 They're only going to be appearing here. 00:18.390 --> 00:22.610 We are streaming live to Twitch, so try to keep the conversations PG. 00:23.230 --> 00:27.210 The conversations will be picked up by this fellow here on the right of the... 00:27.210 --> 00:31.210 if you're into bleachers, he's on the right-hand side of the bleachers with the red shirt hovering. 00:31.210 --> 00:38.050 That's a bot who actually sees the slides and listens to the speakers and streams it to Twitch. 00:38.050 --> 00:45.630 So if you're in any place else in the event area, you won't be picked up by that microphone, only when you're standing next to them. 00:45.750 --> 00:48.430 So we'd like to thank you for all being here. 00:48.430 --> 00:52.570 We're really excited because we've got people from all over the planet here at the moment. 00:53.310 --> 00:58.170 So our first speaker is Jason Street. 00:58.170 --> 00:59.210 Hold on a second. 00:59.210 --> 01:02.490 I need my bio. 01:06.820 --> 01:11.140 Oh, man, it's... hold on a second. 01:12.640 --> 01:16.520 Unfortunately, it grabbed my keyboard and wouldn't let me switch apps. 01:16.520 --> 01:17.540 There we go. 01:18.080 --> 01:18.960 Okay. 01:21.300 --> 01:28.080 So Jason Street is a hacker, author, speaker, and scientific hooligan. 01:28.300 --> 01:34.520 You can find him at Defcon Groups and at Hack Not Crime. 01:34.520 --> 01:38.240 And he's an ambassador for learning and always hoping to teach. 01:38.240 --> 01:39.980 So he's on the Defcon board. 01:39.980 --> 01:43.440 We'd like to thank Jason here today, who's going to give us our keynote speech. 01:43.440 --> 01:45.140 So take it away, Jason. 01:48.960 --> 01:49.540 Hello. 01:49.540 --> 01:50.980 How's it going, everyone? 01:51.280 --> 01:52.200 It's going all right. 01:52.760 --> 01:53.680 Okay. 01:54.040 --> 01:58.480 I'd like to start off with thanking everyone for being here. 01:58.480 --> 02:01.980 It's like this is like one of our first main beta tests. 02:01.980 --> 02:04.980 And of course, we just rushed it to production because YOLO. 02:05.040 --> 02:06.300 That's awesome. 02:06.400 --> 02:07.460 I think it's going to be great. 02:07.460 --> 02:10.440 We did this at Defcon 28. 02:19.620 --> 02:27.120 Hopefully eventually to some point monthly so we can keep this global village going year round. 02:27.120 --> 02:34.660 It's like also over here with the wonderful guy with the nice cool hat with looks like goggles. 02:34.660 --> 02:40.080 That with the blue hoodie and white bottom right there in the front row. 02:40.080 --> 02:46.300 He is actually going to be he is at Defcon right now in the contest area. 02:46.300 --> 02:52.500 And we will be broadcasting in the contest area live for Defcon. 02:52.500 --> 03:00.920 And we're going to allow people that are visiting Defcon to control this bot. 03:00.920 --> 03:07.980 It's like to go around and actually just see the Defcon groups village in VR while they're actually at Defcon. 03:07.980 --> 03:13.720 So it's sort of like a connection that we can have in the VR and Defcon at the same time. 03:13.720 --> 03:16.880 So I want to just got that out of the way. 03:17.680 --> 03:26.980 I do not have a prepared speech because that would require adulting and being a professional. 03:27.240 --> 03:29.160 So sorry about that. 03:29.500 --> 03:37.680 But I do have some things I was like, if I've got time to talk to Defcon group people around the world, what would I say? 03:37.760 --> 03:40.180 And so I want to say a couple of things. 03:40.180 --> 03:44.500 It's like I want to start off with like the heavy stuff and then go off with like the light stuff. 03:44.500 --> 03:47.820 But, you know, when Jason always goes off on a rant, there's always heavy stuff. 03:47.820 --> 03:50.320 So I apologize in advance for that. 03:50.840 --> 04:08.680 But the one thing I do want to start off with is there is a Defcon groups area online, not just in VR, where you can go to Defcongroups.org, which will then take you to the forum group for Defcon. 04:08.680 --> 04:11.760 So look for a Defcon group in your area. 04:13.160 --> 04:18.520 Look for and see if there's a local group in your area and see that. 04:18.820 --> 04:22.880 And then also go and look at some of the other groups. 04:22.880 --> 04:26.580 It's like try to be interactive, try to connect different groups. 04:26.580 --> 04:29.380 It's like see what y'all can do, what side projects do. 04:29.380 --> 04:35.140 That's the whole reason why the forum is there is to connect hackers from all over the world. 04:35.140 --> 04:39.880 So hopefully that will happen and you'll be able to do that. 04:39.940 --> 04:48.320 Also understand setting up a Defcon groups can be easy and difficult at the same time. 04:48.320 --> 04:57.020 It's extremely easy to get one, but to do it properly is the other key that sometimes we seem to lose. 04:57.020 --> 05:01.840 So always remember when you're starting Defcon groups that you're doing a DCG. 05:01.920 --> 05:04.980 You are not Defcon your city. 05:06.040 --> 05:12.480 A Defcon group is part of Defcon, but it's not like its own Defcon thing. 05:12.480 --> 05:16.040 It is part of Defcon, so it's a Defcon groups. 05:16.040 --> 05:22.840 So make sure you do set that up and you stake that in your group, your DCG group designation. 05:22.840 --> 05:29.980 You're actually putting the title DCG or Defcon groups and the number that's assigned to you. 05:30.060 --> 05:35.380 So and trust me, just to get this out of the way, 1337. 05:35.760 --> 05:40.780 No, sorry, DCG 42. 05:41.220 --> 05:43.080 Nope, not going to happen. 05:43.080 --> 05:47.200 It's like and there's also another DCG 420. 05:47.200 --> 05:50.260 I don't think so, but it's like possibly. 05:50.260 --> 05:55.240 But I'm just telling you a lot of the DCGs, they try to go with like a prime number. 05:55.240 --> 06:06.340 They try to go with a it's going to be based off your area code from the old, you know, BBS's, Telefreak, you know, it's like, you know, the old old days. 06:06.380 --> 06:10.540 And that's where it's based off of the area code of the city or area that you're in. 06:10.640 --> 06:15.520 And yes, there can be more than one Defcon group in an area. 06:15.520 --> 06:19.420 It'll just be the DCG, the number and then a dash A. 06:19.560 --> 06:24.720 And then if there's more than one, because there are some cities that have over 20 million people. 06:25.000 --> 06:34.420 And so, yeah, there can be a DCG dash A or dash B to make sure everybody is represented and everybody has a chance. 06:34.500 --> 06:43.740 And these Defcon groups are to meet and promote the Defcon hacking spirit where it's like we're sharing information. 06:43.740 --> 06:45.280 We're trying to be educational. 06:45.280 --> 06:50.180 We're trying to have a positive impact on our communities and our local hackers. 06:50.180 --> 06:53.020 It's like Defcon does it globally. 06:53.020 --> 06:55.640 We try to do it, you know, locally. 06:55.660 --> 06:58.360 So we're trying to affect that change locally. 06:58.360 --> 07:00.100 So try to actually get that. 07:00.100 --> 07:08.220 It's like when you're trying to be at a Defcon group, you're trying to connect with your local hackers in that area before Defcon comes back around. 07:08.220 --> 07:15.400 But at the same time, that means the same COC, the same rules apply as it would at Defcon. 07:15.820 --> 07:25.700 We've had issues with certain Defcon groups that are actually trying to do some illegal things, maybe for the right reasons, but it's the wrong way. 07:25.700 --> 07:31.640 We cannot promote that in Defcon groups and Defcon groups official channels. 07:31.960 --> 07:34.900 That is not the correct way to go about it. 07:34.900 --> 07:36.490 You don't affect change. 07:36.490 --> 07:40.170 Well, actually, sometimes you do affect change by committing crimes. 07:40.170 --> 07:46.870 But it's like some of the ones that were expressively sent out are not it. 07:46.870 --> 07:55.390 So we need to be careful about that and also understand that we are a global community. 07:56.190 --> 08:05.450 And that's all nice when we're all talking about Kumbaya, everybody getting together, everybody agreeing. 08:05.450 --> 08:08.610 But how things should be. 08:08.730 --> 08:21.490 But when our countries come into conflict, we sometimes forget that the Defcon group is not about the politics or the government. 08:21.490 --> 08:24.670 It's about the people who live in that country. 08:25.370 --> 08:28.830 We are united as hackers. 08:28.830 --> 08:30.890 That's our tribe. 08:30.890 --> 08:36.070 It's like it's not our geographical ethnicity. 08:36.070 --> 08:39.850 It's not our political ethnicity. 08:40.750 --> 08:42.410 It is our tribe. 08:42.410 --> 08:45.930 It is our cultural ethnicity that I'm talking about. 08:45.990 --> 08:48.850 It's like and that's what we need to remember. 08:48.950 --> 08:57.590 Everybody wants to make it black and white, which is totally outdated, flawed and never right to begin with in the first place. 08:57.590 --> 08:59.950 It's like so we need to talk ethnicity. 08:59.950 --> 09:05.930 It's like and as my tribe, as my cultural tribe that I identify with, it's hackers. 09:06.010 --> 09:10.290 So it doesn't matter where you are in the world. 09:10.390 --> 09:12.510 You're part of my tribe. 09:13.170 --> 09:22.490 It's like be it in Iran, be it in Russia, be it in Paraguay, even the Paraguayans, no offense to any Paraguayans, but they know what happened. 09:23.380 --> 09:29.330 Any country in the world, if there's a hacker there, you're part of my tribe. 09:29.330 --> 09:32.030 It doesn't matter what your government is doing. 09:32.030 --> 09:34.330 It doesn't matter what my government is doing. 09:34.330 --> 09:36.890 We are still together. 09:37.210 --> 09:41.330 We still share our common interest. 09:41.330 --> 09:53.310 It's like we should not let these kind of conflicts tear us apart and say, well, because this thing is happening and it's horrible, I have to say you're horrible as well. 09:54.430 --> 09:57.130 That's not the way it should be. 09:57.770 --> 10:05.950 You need to understand that those people that are in those DEF CON groups, they don't affect the change. 10:05.950 --> 10:09.550 They don't make the government do what it's doing. 10:09.550 --> 10:17.710 They're just as much a victim in most times to the government as the other ones are from other countries. 10:18.530 --> 10:20.950 When the U.S. 10:21.250 --> 10:33.990 got involved and did invasions and they propped up government regimes in other countries, I was not happy about that. 10:34.170 --> 10:35.610 I protested. 10:35.610 --> 10:38.050 I said that those things were wrong. 10:38.050 --> 10:41.810 It doesn't make me a person who's unpatriotic. 10:41.810 --> 10:45.510 It's like I love my country enough to say we can do better. 10:46.050 --> 10:49.050 But I can't be hated by other countries. 10:49.050 --> 11:00.120 So why do we expect that other people should be held accountable for what their governments are doing? 11:00.660 --> 11:05.580 I will go anywhere in the world that I'm invited and welcomed. 11:05.580 --> 11:09.640 It's like because it doesn't matter what an invisible line on a map says. 11:09.640 --> 11:12.500 It's like we are one tribe. 11:12.920 --> 11:19.260 We are hackers and we need to remember that more, especially in the way the world is today. 11:19.980 --> 11:27.500 It's like if the apocalypse and COVID has taught us anything, we are a highly connected world. 11:27.640 --> 11:32.260 It's like information moves at the speed of light. 11:32.260 --> 11:37.020 The universe is almost as fast because we are so interconnected. 11:38.100 --> 11:43.640 So stop trying to say that these little divisions are separating us. 11:43.860 --> 11:46.400 That's not the way it works. 11:46.580 --> 11:49.020 That's not the way it should ever work. 11:50.780 --> 11:54.380 We establish who our tribe is. 11:54.720 --> 12:00.400 We establish what we want our tribe to be. 12:00.400 --> 12:06.360 Not the government, not cultural norms in the country that we reside in. 12:06.360 --> 12:11.700 But as a global community, we say this is what we stand for. 12:11.700 --> 12:13.500 This is what's acceptable. 12:13.500 --> 12:21.300 And the beauty of the hacking culture and the hacking ethnicity is not everybody is going to agree. 12:21.300 --> 12:23.400 And that's totally okay. 12:23.400 --> 12:29.680 As long as you're not harming others, roll your own way. 12:30.660 --> 12:34.940 As long as you're doing no harm, roll your own way. 12:35.000 --> 12:41.820 But also respect other people's views and how they see the world. 12:42.920 --> 13:00.620 So I will always, always say when I'm having a thing, especially in an online debate with someone, I will get to the point where I will say, look, this is your point, this is mine. 13:00.620 --> 13:03.540 I'm going to respectfully disagree. 13:03.700 --> 13:05.280 And that's okay. 13:05.380 --> 13:08.440 I don't have to win the argument. 13:08.440 --> 13:11.080 It's like I don't have to let them lose. 13:11.080 --> 13:15.360 I can just say, hey, we're going to respectfully disagree. 13:16.160 --> 13:17.440 Move on. 13:18.220 --> 13:20.720 It doesn't have to be a fight. 13:21.400 --> 13:28.720 One of the things I love about AllSpaceVR and having this event here is that that's a person. 13:28.720 --> 13:29.900 That's a person. 13:29.900 --> 13:31.020 That's a person. 13:31.020 --> 13:32.240 That's a person. 13:32.240 --> 13:33.300 That's a person. 13:33.300 --> 13:33.900 That's a person. 13:33.900 --> 13:34.240 That's a bot . 13:34.240 --> 13:35.260 That's a person. 13:35.260 --> 13:36.500 That's a person. 13:36.500 --> 13:37.660 That's a person. 13:37.660 --> 13:38.840 That's a bot. 13:38.840 --> 13:41.120 It's like just like in real life online. 13:41.120 --> 13:44.000 You got bots and you got real people. 13:44.000 --> 13:47.480 But the majority of them are real. 13:48.340 --> 13:56.880 Behind every keyboard, you are dealing with a real person dealing with real problems in the place that they're living in. 13:57.400 --> 13:59.980 Why do we forget that so often? 14:00.720 --> 14:03.680 That is why DEF CON groups are so important. 14:03.680 --> 14:06.720 That is why DEF CON is so important. 14:06.720 --> 14:13.280 Because once a year, you can meet up in hot, stinky Vegas. 14:13.580 --> 14:19.440 It's like and realize, oh, you're real. 14:19.740 --> 14:22.100 This is what you look like in real life. 14:22.100 --> 14:25.220 I get to actually, you know, hug if that's OK for you. 14:25.220 --> 14:31.600 I get to actually talk to you and share and like, you know, enjoy time and have dinner with you. 14:31.600 --> 14:38.120 And share a moment in the life, not behind a keyboard, not by an avatar. 14:38.120 --> 14:46.160 You start realizing that there's actually people attached to those avatars, to those handles, to those names on the keyboard. 14:47.620 --> 14:50.420 DEF CON groups allows you to do that as well. 14:50.540 --> 14:55.740 Because you get to meet with hackers that you've never met, maybe, except for online. 14:55.740 --> 15:00.160 And they live in the same city as you for years. 15:00.160 --> 15:05.280 And then you get to meet up with them in real life and now you have friends. 15:05.660 --> 15:14.040 I do not know about you, but with my social anxiety and being on the spectrum, making friends as an adult is hard. 15:14.380 --> 15:18.100 It's like, I mean, it was really worse in high school, but it's like even hard now. 15:18.440 --> 15:28.300 It's like, so why would you pass up the opportunity to meet with your local friends, your local tribe? 15:28.300 --> 15:30.100 It's like in your city. 15:30.100 --> 15:33.220 I mean, yeah, you're going to have to probably put on pants or pajamas. 15:33.220 --> 15:35.420 It's like whichever is acceptable. 15:35.480 --> 15:40.760 But still, it's like you get to see them in real life and that's what counts. 15:40.760 --> 15:44.640 And yes, I have attended some groups in pajama bottoms. 15:44.820 --> 15:46.220 Don't judge me. 15:46.220 --> 15:48.980 So that's how it's supposed to be, people. 15:50.020 --> 15:52.500 That's what DEF CON groups is all about. 15:52.500 --> 15:55.760 But we're here sharing information. 15:55.900 --> 16:02.520 While we're up here sharing this information and talking and networking, you actually get to... 16:02.520 --> 16:08.560 The lucky ones that are in the VR right now get to actually see the people that they're talking to. 16:08.560 --> 16:11.160 They actually get to join conversations. 16:11.600 --> 16:20.380 It's like, I hope that other people will... more and more people will see how cool this is and get more people participating and doing this. 16:20.380 --> 16:25.460 Because this application is free with a registration. 16:25.540 --> 16:29.700 And it's like we can't make fake email addresses. 16:30.340 --> 16:34.180 But a free registration and it runs on any platform. 16:34.340 --> 16:36.600 That's what it's about. 16:37.140 --> 16:38.900 That's what's so cool. 16:40.040 --> 16:42.040 So start connecting. 16:42.080 --> 16:47.720 Don't just be in these events and listening to the speakers. 16:47.720 --> 16:50.560 One, start speaking up and becoming a speaker. 16:50.560 --> 16:53.560 Because we need more voices in this community. 16:53.560 --> 16:58.440 We need more speakers from all walks of life in this community. 16:58.620 --> 17:01.220 It's like... but also socialize. 17:01.220 --> 17:03.340 Get to know some of these people. 17:03.720 --> 17:05.020 It's like, start understanding. 17:05.020 --> 17:08.720 Because we all understand that one thing right now for certain... 17:11.900 --> 17:13.560 You're part of my tribe. 17:13.560 --> 17:14.780 You're a hacker. 17:14.780 --> 17:16.220 There is no bar. 17:17.720 --> 17:19.140 That's the gatekeepers. 17:19.140 --> 17:21.200 If there was a gate, you jump it. 17:21.200 --> 17:22.440 We're hackers. 17:22.520 --> 17:23.600 Or go under it. 17:23.600 --> 17:24.400 Or around it. 17:24.400 --> 17:25.640 Who cares? 17:26.640 --> 17:28.720 That shouldn't matter to us. 17:29.600 --> 17:32.380 So don't let those things stop you. 17:32.780 --> 17:34.920 It's like... so welcome to here. 17:34.920 --> 17:36.360 Welcome for being here. 17:36.700 --> 17:42.860 This was a very short keynote because once again, not adulting or professional. 17:42.860 --> 17:45.920 But what I would like to do is open it up for questions. 17:45.920 --> 17:47.920 If you have questions about DEF CON groups... 17:49.100 --> 17:50.620 Actually, I'll answer any questions. 17:50.620 --> 17:51.920 So if you've got any questions... 17:52.580 --> 17:55.540 And be warned, I do not filter. 17:55.920 --> 17:58.160 So I always like to say that as a disclaimer. 17:58.160 --> 18:02.820 So if you ask me a question 9 times out of 10, I'm going to answer it. 18:02.820 --> 18:06.220 9.9% out of 10. 18:06.960 --> 18:11.060 So we'll let it open for anybody that wants to ask a question. 18:11.240 --> 18:13.580 They can ask a question right now. 18:13.580 --> 18:14.920 We've got a question right here. 18:15.920 --> 18:16.860 We've got a question here. 18:18.020 --> 18:19.660 Hey, it's Jess. 18:19.660 --> 18:20.500 Hey, it's Jess. 18:20.500 --> 18:21.480 Yep. 18:22.260 --> 18:23.160 Hello. 18:23.160 --> 18:24.560 I have a question. 18:24.680 --> 18:30.340 What if there isn't really like a DEF CON group in your specific area? 18:30.340 --> 18:31.640 How do you make one? 18:32.060 --> 18:33.600 Oh my gosh, I love that. 18:33.600 --> 18:34.720 Hey, it's Jess. 18:38.420 --> 18:43.060 How do you make one? 18:43.820 --> 18:45.960 Because that's what I always tell people. 18:45.960 --> 18:49.160 It's like, find your local DEF CON group. 18:49.160 --> 18:51.260 And if there isn't one, start one. 18:51.260 --> 18:53.220 That's your invitation to start one. 18:53.220 --> 18:56.260 And you start it by emailing. 18:56.260 --> 19:01.320 And we'll probably eventually put the link up on the screen or on the side. 19:01.520 --> 19:05.800 But it's literally just going to either... 19:10.910 --> 19:12.010 DCG groups? 19:12.010 --> 19:13.270 I'm going to say it wrong. 19:13.270 --> 19:14.810 I need an adult. 19:14.870 --> 19:17.030 But it's literally sending an email. 19:17.030 --> 19:30.790 But going to defcongroups.org first, it will actually have the FAQ, which will actually walk you through on the email, who you send it to, and then what you need to fill in for the application. 19:31.430 --> 19:41.050 So just go to defcongroups.org, then look for the FAQ and look for the introduction, which shows you that information. 19:41.290 --> 19:46.810 And also remember that there are volunteers that are the ones that are handling the application. 19:47.030 --> 19:51.070 We are trying to knock those out as quickly as possible. 19:51.190 --> 19:53.130 But life happens. 19:53.390 --> 19:55.670 It's like an apocalypse has happened. 19:55.670 --> 20:01.890 So it's like some take longer than others, but we will be around and we will be available. 20:02.670 --> 20:11.510 So submit from defcongroups.org. 20:11.730 --> 20:13.990 Are there any other questions? 20:15.030 --> 20:19.430 By the way, there's going to be a talk this afternoon at 1 o'clock on how to start and run a group. 20:19.850 --> 20:20.790 Oh, that's great. 20:20.790 --> 20:26.490 At 1 o'clock PST, there is going to be a talk on how to start your own group. 20:28.090 --> 20:28.890 Perfect. 20:29.930 --> 20:34.210 I should have started off with that, but I forgot to look at the schedule. 20:35.210 --> 20:36.230 I don't filter. 20:36.230 --> 20:36.930 Sorry. 20:38.390 --> 20:40.270 So are there any other questions? 20:41.650 --> 20:48.470 If one can make it to an event, it's recorded, right? 20:50.410 --> 20:54.230 On Defcon Groups, it depends on the... 20:54.230 --> 20:55.950 Oh, for here? 20:55.950 --> 20:57.810 Are these recorded? 20:57.810 --> 21:00.130 I'm not sure if the DCG... 21:00.130 --> 21:02.270 Yes, they are recorded. 21:02.270 --> 21:03.970 We are recording them. 21:04.190 --> 21:04.910 Okay, good. 21:04.910 --> 21:05.750 Awesomeness. 21:05.750 --> 21:06.830 These guys are awesome. 21:06.830 --> 21:11.250 Once again, we should all give some clapping to the team here. 21:11.250 --> 21:13.450 I had hardly anything to do with all this. 21:13.450 --> 21:14.710 It was the volunteers. 21:14.710 --> 21:16.650 It's the people who are putting in time. 21:16.770 --> 21:18.810 X-Ray 800XL. 21:18.810 --> 21:23.250 It's like so many other people that I'm forgetting because I didn't plan. 21:23.290 --> 21:26.530 But those are the ones that actually make this happen. 21:26.530 --> 21:28.110 This whole... 21:28.110 --> 21:30.530 Go explore this space. 21:30.530 --> 21:34.110 This was done with love and respect for Defcon. 21:34.110 --> 21:36.830 All the little hidden little Easter eggs. 21:37.030 --> 21:39.790 Just warms my heart every time I go through it. 21:39.870 --> 21:41.970 Including checking out the roof on the pool. 21:42.410 --> 21:44.370 It's just my favorite. 21:44.370 --> 21:45.590 So, yes. 21:45.690 --> 21:48.690 Not this roof, but in the other area. 21:48.690 --> 21:50.570 But definitely check it out. 21:50.570 --> 21:51.590 Check out the whole area. 21:51.590 --> 21:53.230 There's history in here. 21:53.370 --> 21:55.410 Go have a Trevor milkshake. 21:55.490 --> 21:58.410 Go see some of the other things that are here. 21:59.090 --> 22:00.570 It'll be awesome. 22:00.570 --> 22:05.490 I definitely just think it's a really cool thing for y'all to be able to see and do. 22:05.870 --> 22:09.830 Hopefully, if we get enough interest, we will start doing these monthly. 22:10.610 --> 22:15.310 And there'll be more socializing and we'll have speakers as well. 22:15.410 --> 22:17.830 I think that'll be such a great thing. 22:17.830 --> 22:23.890 So, please get involved in your local areas for Defcon groups. 22:23.950 --> 22:26.330 And also for the Global Village. 22:26.330 --> 22:28.130 Try to be there as well. 22:28.130 --> 22:34.550 And also, it's like I hope to see you at Defcon at some point for a hug or just a hello. 22:34.710 --> 22:36.790 Either way is fine with me. 22:36.790 --> 22:39.330 So, you all take care. 22:39.390 --> 22:40.050 It was great. 22:40.050 --> 22:44.210 I'm going to actually now run. 22:44.250 --> 22:52.210 My Oculus is actually fogged up because I ran all the way from the contest area to get over here in time for this talk. 22:52.210 --> 22:55.950 And now I'm going to go run all the way back to the contest area. 22:55.950 --> 23:01.490 And I will be in the contest area for Defcon till 1 p.m. 23:01.570 --> 23:06.170 PST talking to people, showing them the virtual reality area. 23:06.170 --> 23:11.870 I will also probably getting on the bot for the DCG guest right over here. 23:11.870 --> 23:14.710 He's up in the upper audience now. 23:14.710 --> 23:19.650 It's like I will actually be meeting with all those people. 23:20.400 --> 23:27.850 It's like online and in person at Defcon in about 30 minutes or so. 23:27.850 --> 23:29.830 So, I hope to see you there. 23:29.830 --> 23:34.430 And I hope to see you in here still a little bit later when we socializing. 23:34.430 --> 23:36.110 But you all take care. 23:36.110 --> 23:40.990 Thanks again for showing up because this doesn't happen without you. 23:40.990 --> 23:45.690 Local Defcon groups do not happen without you. 23:45.690 --> 23:48.650 This stuff doesn't occur in a vacuum. 23:48.650 --> 23:51.790 And it takes patience. 23:51.790 --> 23:53.230 And it takes time. 23:53.230 --> 23:55.150 And it takes effort. 23:55.150 --> 23:57.710 And it's not always easy. 23:57.830 --> 24:00.110 But that's okay because we're hackers. 24:00.110 --> 24:01.390 We're used to difficult. 24:01.390 --> 24:02.850 We're used to making it more difficult. 24:02.850 --> 24:04.910 But still, we're used to difficult. 24:04.910 --> 24:06.410 We can do this. 24:06.530 --> 24:10.390 So, I hope to see you all creating these Defcon groups. 24:10.430 --> 24:13.250 Spreading this kind of ethos. 24:13.250 --> 24:17.450 And understanding and welcoming more people to our tribe. 24:17.450 --> 24:24.590 Because seriously, as hackers, everybody is welcome in this tribe. 24:27.990 --> 24:30.730 Everyone means well for everyone else. 24:30.730 --> 24:32.230 There's always a caveat, people. 24:32.230 --> 24:33.970 It's like because we're dealing with humans. 24:33.970 --> 24:42.850 But seriously, most of the people who mean well, who are trying to make things better, you're welcome in this tribe. 24:42.850 --> 24:47.410 We need more helpers in this tribe, in this world. 24:47.450 --> 24:50.210 So, start trying to be that more. 24:51.070 --> 24:52.110 Bye. 24:52.730 --> 24:53.750 Mic drop. 24:53.750 --> 24:54.890 Thank you, Jason. 24:54.890 --> 24:55.630 And thank you for... 24:56.730 --> 24:57.430 Thanks, Jason. 25:00.110 --> 25:01.410 Very cool. 25:01.410 --> 25:03.310 Have a good time in meatspace. 25:03.830 --> 25:05.190 I'm gonna try. 25:05.190 --> 25:05.990 Okay. 25:07.130 --> 25:10.450 Our next speaker will be here at... 25:11.390 --> 25:14.230 Let's see, that'll be 11 o'clock Vegas time. 25:14.230 --> 25:18.390 That's roughly 20, 36 minutes from now. 25:18.390 --> 25:23.430 And the talk will be on cyber attack trends in 2022 by John Clay. 25:23.430 --> 25:26.270 So, make sure you're back here to see that. 25:26.270 --> 25:34.430 By the way, if you're... there are screens in some of the other areas that you can actually watch and listen to the talk from those areas. 25:34.430 --> 25:36.330 You don't actually have to be in this room. 25:36.650 --> 25:37.170 But... 25:37.170 --> 25:41.090 Yeah, use this 30 minutes to explore the whole area. 25:41.090 --> 25:43.090 Go explore for the Easter eggs. 25:43.090 --> 25:46.210 Go look and explore and see what the other rooms are. 25:46.210 --> 25:49.090 There's other rooms involved, not just this area. 25:49.750 --> 25:51.710 Go have fun and explore. 25:52.270 --> 25:54.710 Seeing the badge back there give me major feels. 25:55.210 --> 25:57.610 Because I moved to Asia and now I got kids. 25:57.610 --> 25:59.410 I'm not gonna be able to go back to Vegas for a while. 25:59.410 --> 26:03.850 But seeing the little badge display over there, I really like giving me big feels. 26:04.430 --> 26:05.230 Awesome. 26:05.530 --> 26:06.890 That's what it's all about. 26:06.890 --> 26:09.010 So, I'm really excited for that. 26:09.890 --> 26:10.850 Yep. 26:10.910 --> 26:14.590 Oh, and if you notice on the bar, it's got a milkshake. 26:14.590 --> 26:20.610 That's from the Trevor Grifter 801 incident at DerbyCon. 26:20.610 --> 26:24.330 It's like the Trevor cockroach in the milkshake joke. 26:24.470 --> 26:25.310 So , it's... 26:25.950 --> 26:28.410 So, but there's all little things like that. 26:28.410 --> 26:29.290 They're everywhere. 26:29.290 --> 26:30.530 It's like you just got to find them. 26:30.530 --> 26:32.750 So, spend the 30 minutes just looking around. 26:32.750 --> 26:38.810 And you don't understand the effort it took to create these things out of scratch. 26:38.810 --> 26:41.630 The developers deserve all the credit for this. 26:41.630 --> 26:47.690 They did so much wonderful work to put these kind of little touches in there. 26:48.130 --> 26:49.990 So, y'all take care. 26:49.990 --> 26:51.250 I got to take off now.