This morning we have a pre-recorded video, but we have a very special guest to introduce this video.
Please give a warm welcome to G-Mark.
Thank you.
Well, good morning.
Welcome to Richard Thiem, who has been presenting here since 1997.
I attended his first talk at Black Hat 1 in 98,
and he has been a regular here.
Due to family health issues, he is unable to be in person.
However, Richard will be doing a broadcast.
I just want to say a note of thanks to him for his years of friendship.
If you've ever had a chance to listen to Richard speak or interact with him,
you'll find out he's probably one of the finest intellects in our community.
And yet he never kind of became a hacker.
He really was a priest in his earlier life
and adopted the hacker community as his flock.
And I think for that we should all be grateful.
So please sit back, listen to some interesting ideas from Richard Thiem
for one of his passions about UFOs, alien life,
and the least untruthful things that he can say.
So please over then to Richard Thiem.
And welcome to UFOs, aliens, and quite seriously,
the least untruthful things I can say about that.
It's a...
Pleasure to be back at DEFCON, although I wish I was there in person.
But could not be this year.
So I'm going to do the best I can
with one of the more unusual talks you're likely to hear this year.
Exactly as it was requested by the review committee at DEFCON.
You probably need to know that I've explored the subject of UFOs seriously
and in depth and in detail for 44 years.
Above all, I've worked with some of the best and the brightest
in what we call the invisible.
College, after Alan Hynek's coining of the phrase, to do academic research well and scientifically
and with integrity and to base our conclusions on data and evidence and scrupulous observation,
discarding all those that don't contribute to a reasonable understanding of what we're looking at.
I mention all those people that I've worked with because I'm going to quote from some of them
in a little bit, because I asked them for their bottom line conclusions after working on this
subject diligently and academically and in every way collecting hundreds of thousands of documents
over more than half a century. And these are good people. So you'll have to take my word for it. I
vouch for them. A number of them contributed to the celebrated historical work to which I also
contributed. UFOs in Government, a Historical Inquiry.
which is in over 100 university libraries and is considered the real gold standard for historical
research into the subject. So this is the most forthright presentation I can make on this subject.
And I want to emphasize that it is about alien life by request, because I'm going to tell you
some of the conclusions we can make about the likelihood that UFO phenomena represents alien
life. So you're looking at
me. Now you're looking at the title, the search for alien life, UFOs and the least untruthful things
I can say about that. All right, let's begin by remembering where we are, what kind of universe
we inhabit, what kind of cosmos. What you're looking at right now is a selection of just some
of the galactic clusters in the universe. Now, a galactic cluster is a collection of galaxies,
often millions of galaxies, often covering a huge span of which our Milky Way galaxy is merely a pinprick
in its own galactic cluster. And I'm going to show you a still picture of that. This is Laniakea. I hope
I have time at the end to play a video. If not, make sure you plug Laniakea, that name, into a search engine and watch the
four minute video, which illuminates how this was determined to be the galactic cluster in which we live. You will notice all the way at the end of that little white
filament arm on the right is a dot. That dot is the Milky Way. This cluster is hundreds of light years across. And the point I want to make is that Laniakea, the Hawaiian name for open skies or immense heavens,
does not represent any of the galaxies that we know. That's why I'm raising the first question here. Where do the galaxies that we know in the future end up?
There are 100,000 nearby galaxies in just this one cluster. Do you really think we are the top of the food chain, and the only sentient intelligence in the universe, and that we
are the first to learn everything, even though we've only had electric lights for about 150 years? As the universe counts time, we're barely up from the slime. And we have
made significant progress very quickly what you're looking at here is the telescope galileo
created and used to see moons of jupiter for example and other things in 1609 so it's a little
little bit over 400 years ago that he discovered spots on the sun and the phases of venus and hills
and valleys on the moon now this is what we're using the james webb space telescope you can
google the first images that have come from it it gives us our farthest look our farthest reach
into the galaxy uh into the galaxies uh we have just found using james webb
one of the oldest formations of a galaxy in the early universe than that we have ever seen
but this is going to help us because it is going to look at and identify exoplanets
that is those that are likely to harbor life but more than that this telescope i hope you
can see it adequately it's called the roman space telescope it's got a much much bigger field of
view it's scheduled to go up on a on a uh a rocket from spacex in about six or eight years
2026 2028 and what it is going to be able to conduct is uh areas of the sky will be viewed
that are 100 times larger than the hubble can see a hundred times and it will undertake a
galactic exoplanet survey designed to find earth-like planets that is smaller rocky planets
in the right habitation zone around nearby suns and it's going to do this and find out what the
galaxies in the Milky Way a hundred times faster than the Hubble. Okay, so this is just to say
we are on the cusp in our limited and relatively primitive technology ways to identifying planets
where life has originated. That is coming, but we don't need to rely on that to know that there are
other things suggestive of life in the universe. What you're looking at here is two photos from
McMinnville, Oregon in the late 1940s, and these two photos show flying discs that the farmer,
Paul Trent, had no idea what they were. He took the pictures. He says he wished he never had
because he was attacked and assailed and called a charlatan and a fraud. The kind of camera he
was using was a little bit more sophisticated. He was using a little bit more sophisticated. He was
you would have known how to do it. It was a farmer in McMinnville,
Oregon. From the first days of the current UFO era starting in the late forties,
we have images. talked about things. I refer you to a YouTube video about the McMinnville,
not only the McMinnville, but the McMinnville photos, which are presented by the National
but two videos. You can Google those. One is from Great Falls, Montana, and one is from
Tramonton, Utah. And what they show are discs flying over an area where people happen to have
movie cameras, and they took pictures of them. They did the best they could to identify them
in every way. They went to naval labs. They went to the Air Force. Air Force clipped some frames
from one of them, the ones that showed clearly shining silver discs that, according to the camera
operator, looked like shiny dimes in the sky. He rebutted every silly argument they gave for what
else it might be. But this is to make the point that we had video movies, we called them, of flying
saucers.
early on. So we got to work on how we had to manage that. You're looking here at two photos,
two among many, of UFOs. It's that basic. People say, why are there no photos? Well, here's a photo.
Why are they so far away? Why? Because they kept far away. Duh, right? So these photos are clearer,
perhaps. The modern era of UFOs,
it begins in the 40s with Foo Fighters. During World War II, those glowing balls of light you see
trapped our airplanes over Germany and Japan. We thought they were secret weapons of the Axis. They
thought they might be secret weapons of ours. We learned after the war from all the documentation we
could get our hands on that nobody knew what they were. There are good books on Foo Fighters. I am
just trying to make the point that we had photographs early on,
both movies and photos by reliable people. These were taken by military pilots of unidentified flying
objects that are not explainable in any other way. So that's why this statement was made. This is
Nathan Twining, a general, right? Head of the US Air Force material command. And he said, quote,
the phenomenon reported is something real.
and not visionary or fictitious and you can look that up in historical annals but this is the full
communication it's called the twining memo but it wasn't a memo it was a different kind of
communication and he said quite clearly the phenomena is real and not visionary or fictitious
he described the size of them and above all he described the operating characteristics
extreme rates of climb maneuverability action which must be considered evasive when sighted by
friendly aircraft and radar in other words whether inhabited by intelligent beings or robots
they responded interacted with our attempts to intercept them and it lends belief to the
possibility that some objects are controlled he said always looking for the least common
denominator of understanding either manually automatically or remotely
he added that they're metallic they're circular or elliptical in shape in other words a classic
flying saucer often with a dome on top flying in formations and no sound no sound we did not know
in 1947 how to create vehicles nor did anyone on this planet that didn't have any sounds and that
could fly like that that's why major general john sanford chief of intelligence for the air force
made this statement in the early 50s credible people have seen incredible things so others have
described it and i have referred to these before but i'm going to refer to them again because these
are important documentation important documentation it is important documentation of
what people knew and when herman oborth was verner von braun's mentor and the father of german rocket
pilots and he described uh let me back up to this one uh what they looked like he said the
appearances are discs uh sometimes happen they're one on top of the other they fly in a manner
so if the drive is acting perpendicular to the plane of the disc uh when they're suspended over
certain terrain they keep horizontal when they want to fly quick they tilt and fly with the
plane directed forward they glitter like metal they are dark orange and cherry red at night
much power necessary for the particular movement they are making such as when they're hovering
suspended calm then they don't shine much but if they need more driving power whatever it is
it sources their motion the shining increases brightens and they appear yellow yellow green
green like a copper flame and in a state of highest speed or acceleration
extremely white and he went on to say look this is 1950s the accuracy of these measurements can't
doubt it if they're only three or four i wouldn't rely on them but i've seen more than 50 from
wireless sets radar the american air force and navy they can't all be inaccurate and this is
substantiated by our own paul hill who worked for nasa for several decades and he duplicates
the observation that the ufo colors stem from energetic ionizing radiation
generated by the ufo which ionized the air and he lists the colors red
orange least energy and so on up to blue the strongest radiation of peaks of nitrogen so
they confirm one another what they confirm is that people are seeing the same things
and that there are correlations between speed and intensity of ionization and the colors they
manifest when that is demonstrated as they move extraordinarily quickly so we want to know what
they were well here's a map
this was in look magazine in the 1950s you can't see it well but you can see all those labels and
each label is appended to a little circle that is around an air force base or nuclear facility
where ufos were sighted uh were hovering were looking like they were doing reconnaissance
looking like they were nosy because that's where they showed up
and that's why look magazine and life magazine ran serious articles about what we were
seeing and it was news then uh here's my favorite uh headline saucer outran jet pilot reveals it's
in the washington post it's not in the national enquirer that came shortly after these incidents
in washington dc in 1952 and uh you can see it it was news then it was news and so here's another
news item naval personnel drawing the radar
what they saw a news item that's the point here's another one another flying saucer headline
miami pilots spot eight saucers etc hundreds in state in indiana england to show you that it was
a global phenomena and this picture that you're looking at uh when there was a famous occurrence
over washington dc in july of 1952 uh this is what it looks like to the pilot he's the dot in
the center the others are the ufos that surrounded him when he tried to pursue one and they came
closer and closer until his uh his high emotion obvious from the recording he made we have of him
speaking to the control tower these were observed by ground observers pilots sent up to chase them
as well as three different air force base uh and with radar on the ground this created
pretty big consternation uh how do you explain this uh this is when sanford said incredible
people have seen incredible things well they approached it by appointing a panel called the
robertson panel it was convened in 1953 in january uh and it included uh marshall chadwell
the cia assistant director of scientific intelligence his concern was that ufo phenomena
could be exploited
by our enemies especially the soviet union then to incite mass hysteria and panic and overwhelm
lines of communication required for early warning defense if their bombers were coming over the pole
that was the primary focus national security in light of how they could be used or manipulated
by genuine terrestrial enemies so that was a serious concern we had to be on the alert for a
preemptive nuclear strike by the soviet union uh the panel met for about a day 23 hours most of
that time was not spent examining the evidence for the ufos we had conclusions like the air
force's own photo reconnaissance lab at wright patterson that said after several weeks looking
at those films i mentioned from montana and tree mountain utah we don't know what they are
but they aren't airplanes or balloons and we don't think they're birds
the ufo was released by a video link and the navy added that the ufos are intelligently
controlled vehicles but there was their choice as you might know was not to explore it scientifically
not to validate and verify what uh what they knew and others knew it was to create a
press release like this uh with project grudge which followed uh project sign which followed
the robertson panel we have investigated and evaluated blank uh and and have found nothing
of value which would change in other words no matter what is seen put out this blanket denial
that anything uh is worth uh worrying about uh you get the idea you know i've referred to illusion
misdirection ridicule as the primary legs of the stool of covering deception and uh that's what
they employed from then on until and they had silliness like this right uh ufo aliens founded
south pole and so on all kinds of crazy things were placed in print and then the useful idiots
promulgated that the way useful idiots on social media are promulgating all sorts of nonsense today
now the cia concluded they're not a threat directly but military personnel should be trained
in the proper observation of flying saucers and programs should be created to debunk flying
saucers uh to the citizenry so they don't get upset and that's the way it was until just
recently now we have a change in the weather right
now people
are saying uh oh uh there is something to it we can only speculate about the motivations of people
who do not show their hands inside the places where these decisions are made but it became
news again i showed you it was news then it was debunked for decades upon decades
now ufo report says uaps may be a national security threat why said the cnn 60 minutes
which everybody trusts like walter cronkite was trusted ufo is regularly spotted in restricted
u.s airspace so we're back to the twining document right actually we're not because
we have been researching this we serious researchers for decades since the debunking
started and pushing back against the debunking as a professional program to mitigate the impact of
its destinations in the world as the霞 can tell us like why do you think the steppenwolf
is acting on the earth and why is his presence here because i'm not sure if you still have the
same question or one of our previous speakers at the ufo report or even if you're not familiar
with the new airport i think you'll be able to get the answer to this the first part of the
second part of this first part of this whole series of research that you've got a lot of
information about in your revised report you can click here to see it and you can use it to see
thousands of cases. We have lots of data. Project Blue Book, which they undertook, had over 12,000
reports. NICAP, the National Investigation for Aerial Phenomena, and CUFOS, Center for UFO Studies
in Chicago, has over 10,000 reports. MUFON and NUFORC have over 100,000 reports. Most, 90%,
are likely sightings of known objects, but many are not. And they were doing research that we
didn't know about. GEPON in France conducted serious investigations of UFOs and got no
cooperation from the UFO, from the United States. Battelle Memorial Institute conducted its own
investigations in the 50s. We know, we've been studying it. And here's the Battelle Memorial
Institute analysis.
20% are unknown. That's all I want to use that to show, that they knew from 1947 to 51,
the result of serious study was that most were unknown. And then this 1952 incident happened.
People were vectored in to approach a UFO that was coming in at 18,000 feet, strong signal,
and it was traveling over 1,000 miles. We've clocked these things at zero to 14,000.
In seconds. They don't fly the way we think of flying, aerodynamically, in atmosphere. They move
the same way, in the same, with the same fidelity to their structure in space, in water,
and in air. They don't fly. Something else is happening. Something is affecting space-time
in their vicinity that we don't know how to understand or replicate.
Now, in this case, they reported it to the Pentagon. And they said, if another one comes in,
fire on it. You know, so obviously it's not a hallucination, right? That's 1952. And I refer
to that 1952 event, Incredible People Have Seen Incredible Things, and we're back to the
Washington Post the next morning, introducing the subject in that way. So, Hynek became disgusted,
Alan Hynek, with how the Air Force treated him, because we saw some of these things, but it wasn't
the he was being bypassed when he tried to be a consultant for the air force and he made this
statement when he created kufos in 73 the public he said was placed in the role of the enemy
against whom counter espionage tactics must be employed from my personal experience he said
from my personal experience the public was placed in the role of an enemy against whom
counter espionage tactics were employed i frequently felt those in charge did not
consider people who reported ufos or took a serious interest in them and wanted data about them
they considered them enemies and they didn't need reports they had reports
they had plenty of sensors and observations and photographs they knew this was real
they didn't need antilli to say something landed behind my barn scared the cattle half to death
uh this is the way my hero mobius in the novel that came out last year
mobius a memoir it's called a memoir but it's fictional because i couldn't write about an
intelligence professional telling the truth about his experience unless i put in the guise of
fiction a friend at nsa said that to me directly he said you can't ever discuss
what we talk about in here unless you write fiction fiction is the only way you can tell
the truth
well thank you for that and this was the result it's highly recognized as a real terrific tour
de force you can look at the reviews on amazon mobius memoir but i just finished its sequel
the mobius vector which will be coming out soon and mobius says the real collateral damage was the
civil society once information went everywhere faster than anyone could stop it the people we
were protecting had to be treated as enemies because if they knew a secret everyone knew
we had to invent false narratives this was the origin of this distorted information space
in which we all live now the context of post technologically revolutionary life
required that we do that mobius said my my hero and that's he's a hero because he became a
whistleblower and the second book the mobius vector is about his life as a whistleblower
and the third is coming out now you might find them of interest at any rate illusion misdirection
ridicule were directed against us and i know that personally but not just little people like me
here's the general manager of the french version of nsa and asa nasa and he said there are
campaigns of misinformation that destabilize even ridicule those who treat the subject seriously the
american
effort is deliberate and orchestrated disinformation but why loss of supremacy the top dog
keeping potential acquired technology if we can figure out how this stuff works because you better
believe that anyone who figures out how ufos work owns the planet and a lot more besides
the technology is so far superior according to vernon brown to anything we expected to encounter
once we knew the ufos were real uh so here's the head of nasa in france saying they're treating us
the same way they're treating you and people like helen cutter was the first director of the cia
said it's time to bring out the truth behind the scenes high-ranking air force officers are
soberly concerned i could go on and on with quotes from the 40s and 50s before the the hammer came
down on people telling the truth about what everybody knew
inside the fence that's just the way it was and just because they debunk cases doesn't mean
that interesting cases went away i refer you to these four look them up the minot case was
beautifully explored at minot b52 ufo.com a thoroughly documented account of our pilots
encountering ufos in the air and on the ground at minot air force base in 1968
skip down to tehran iran a dia foia response details a dog fight between fighters and a ufo
and an iranian general later went public at a washington press conference and confirmed the
event we have the document from the defense intelligence agency and it is stated on the
document that the case is of the highest credibility because when the iranian pilot
vectored in toward the ufo over tehran remember iran was our friend then and had our
best jets he was told to arm his craft and when he did the avionics went out and he had a curve
around looking for a way to come to a landing but once he was out of uh a position where he could
harm uh or shoot at the ufo the avionics returned uh it sounds like doesn't it uh uh don't don't do
that uh uh uh we won't hurt you but don't try that um those
kinds of incidents are a lot more common than somebody being injured so i encourage you to
look at the tehran ufo incident the minot incident and uh fishing trip to wisconsin boy i wanted to
give you the details about that and i don't know that i'll have time it was uh a person i
interviewed in depth we have his account uh corroborated uh of a ufo that came down and
went under the water when he was fishing and how it came out of the water with
water cascading off the sides which were encased in a plasma that very kind of plasma
that ionizes the atmosphere around it once it was free of the water was gone uh but it had to be
free of the water when they're touching the land or water they use a different propulsion system
i'll try to give you more details about that if i can if i have time but um or write to me you
know email or let me know through you through my contact information you want to know more
about it and i'll tell you uh this was the head of the rocket division thiokol i remember being
up there when they were testing a rocket engine uh quite thunderous um and he said if the witnesses
are accurate it's hard to explain what they saw any other way than that they're extraterrestrial
vehicles and that's that's where we are uh that's the point i want to arrive at here
there's no way to understand this phenomena except as a manifestation
of extraterrestrial vehicles i this here just some of the kinds of conversations i've had i've had
i would say several hundred as have all of us in the invisible college as well as combing over
literally thousands of cases to eliminate everything that didn't fit and i hope i'll be able
to show you a little bit about what we do with that but time presses uh recently i made the simple
statement to
a colleague who had worked at the pentagon for many years that they were real that they have
been here for a long time and they constitute a national security threat and my friend asked about
that that statement of someone who had been the vice chair of the joint chiefs of staff
and according to my friend he said richard my friend said exactly the same thing you said uh yeah
they've been here for a long time and they're a national security threat norad friends call
them the visitors it's just a visitor nothing to do about it edgar mitchell apollo 14 astronaut
went to the joint chiefs to their security liaison to ask if a government effort was underway
to monitor the phenomena in a meaningful way and the response he got was yes it is don't ask any
more questions in other words yes for all people to know mitchell said he was humour historically
As the general said to Alan Hynek in the Pentagon in the 70s, Alan, for heaven's sakes, do you think we would ignore something like this?
Do you think we would ignore something like this?
And it was an NSA analyst, someone I knew very well, close friend.
And I'll never forget the way his voice sounded when he reviewed the many instances he had discussed in detail with people from sites where events had happened who came to NSA to take his classes.
And he said to me, Richard, they're here.
They're here.
So I'm trying to make the point that after doing this for 44 years, I don't have much.
Much question about what is going on in that limited way.
These are extraterrestrial vehicles because nothing else explains what's going on.
Now, I want to move on.
I can't cover everything I put in the slides because because I can't.
But here are some reflections from some of the Invisible College.
This is to just give you an idea of some of the things we have documented.
Humanoid objects.
Observations, greys, dwarfs, humans, and the years in which they cluster very similar to vehicle interference cases, which cluster in exactly the same years.
You can say, well, why does that we don't know why we don't know why we don't know what it means to do it year by year.
What does it mean to calibrate these by years when there are years and the visitors could care less how we tell time using orbits around the sun?
That's how.
Generally, we think we can't get at the reality of this phenomena thinking that way.
Here's a bigger picture of that.
And here's an example of the types of things that are observed that we have broken down into just the most basic hundred and sixty four cases that are well documented and verifiable in terms of number of witnesses and what was observed.
Okay.
So.
So I'll get to a few samples in the beta base, but before I get there, I want to read some of the reflections from my colleagues who have been working on this for much more than half a century.
One general rich is a brilliant guy military intelligence background and he runs project 1947 which you can find online.
It's a great repository of play of cases and you should go there if you want to begin doing the work.
Because the work requires that you look at the cases, look at all of the cases, read them and read them again.
So when I said to him, what is going on, he said, after 50 years, honestly, I have no idea.
But here's a fuller statement from a fellow who had a I shouldn't use the names, but they're very high ranking in their professions which are scientific of the people I'm going to quote from.
And I'm going to try to let the quote stand for itself.
I said after doing this for over half a century after heading a scientific investigative group after using science because you have a PhD in a branch of science.
What do you think?
And this is what he thinks UFOs are physical objects that are intelligently controlled.
There's no obvious form of propulsion, such as in a plane or a jet or a rocket or a helicopter.
Although they do.
Interact with the atmosphere, they can move through the atmosphere at extreme speeds with no obvious interaction as evidenced by a sonic boom.
There isn't any no frictional heating in the atmosphere.
There isn't any something else is happening and we don't know exactly yet.
Certainly out here where we do our work, what it is the extreme accelerations that are seen hundreds of G forces argue for some unusual propulsion mechanism.
To explain how the
craft and or occupants in it could survive their origin of these vehicles is unknown, but the most likely explanation is the extraterrestrial hypothesis for several reasons.
First of all, astronomy argues in favor this ETH we've already discovered he notes over 5000 exoplanets and we're limited in what we can detect that I already pointed out to you that that's coming.
There are millions of planets in our galaxy many inhabitable zones that could support Earth like life chemistry and biology as disciplines argue in favor of the extraterrestrial hypothesis water and oxygen are everywhere.
And he goes on the building blocks of life are ubiquitous in our galaxy and likely in other galaxies and physics argue in favor the ETH because UFOs exhibit the types of velocities.
That one would expect from an interstellar craft they reach speeds upward to 40,000 miles per hour in one to two seconds and disappear from human sight if they maintain that acceleration.
Few hours they'd be traveling at the speed of light or close to it.
So there is a core UFO phenomenon, the product of an advanced presumably extraterrestrial intelligence, it can be documented instrumentally.
And in other ways, science employees to understand how the universe works and what it contains.
In other words, if we could only turn the resources of science to examining it in a partnership between civilians and military and intelligence people, we would get to it.
You know, I said, my friend says they're here. Well, Bill Nelson, the head of NASA former senator said when he got a security briefing on the recent
events that the Navy is now reporting that resulted in those news items I mentioned, he said the hair stood up on the back of my neck.
Now, come on, this is the head of NASA. He's not making stuff up just to scare people.
So the examples I mentioned to you like the Minot case, or the Nimitz case, which you can look up online because it's been so detailed lately, or the famous O'Hare airport case, which I encourage you to look at.
Uh, there are a number of examples.
There are multiple witnesses and in O'Hare, a visible hole was burned in the overcast, there are quite a powerful outburst of energy to do so, look at the best case, best witness examples and you'll see a pattern.
There's a limited number of variety of shapes. They're metallic. They fly at extraordinary speeds. They stop at a dime. They hover. They accelerate like no earthly aircraft. They make hairpin turns and dart like a hummingbird and defy gravity.
Any of our aircrafts would just be destroyed trying to do that.
In addition, they manifested this for many, many years, and we know it.
And look at that chart again.
You have the slides on the cluster of sightings in the past of humanoid observations.
Uh, Here's a these sightings.
The database that I presented to you after the humanoid sightings is 614 reports.
of vehicles with square windows uh here's an example third one saucer with three square windows
in the whitish glow within they saw a slim humanoid five or six feet tall dressed in a
one-page suit wearing some kind of helmet with penetrating eyes you have read about the
penetrating eyes if you had explored this at all um human forms were looking out panels of windows
appear around center desk look at those 614 reports just the examples that i gave you
and look at how many there are and i'll be glad to provide anyone who wants it with that complete
database of those reports as a beginning point for you to begin to explore some of this on your
own
uh carrying on with the invisible college colleagues uh this is a professor of science
they are their machines are here for their own reasons and we don't have any direct
data on that they're not interested in conquest or damage all the claims of ufo
aggression are lies or hoaxes or human or mental problems just isn't happening so
what we're left with is as jan aldrich from project 1947
he said he quoted coral lorenzen one of the early documenting uh researchers in this field quote
daddy does not know the government has more and better data than it did and it has more
and better data than we do but as far as the full story goes we are still back in the 1940s
and 1950s but
what are we going to do okay intelligent life probably exists on distant planets if we can't
make contact we know that more more more on exoplanets back to the galactic clusters
there you see them life abounds the universe is teeming with life
and i have taught directly to witnesses who have seen humanoid figures inside craft
and we have documented cases of humanoid figures often smaller than we are near landed craft you
don't need a lot of those if you see one bear bears are real but we have more than you would
guess of those well-documented cases you see all the shape faces theOTER мас every inch has multiple
i encourage you to explore them on your own because what we're going to be dealing with
in the times to come are the are the certainties that we are not alone we are not the top of the
food chain and if we're the apple of god's eyes and there are millions of apples on the tree
and it's like a sibling finding out that parents love all their kids not just you um
lots of apples on the tree all are apples of god's eye if you want to believe it
god or see it that way but the simple fact is we're not alone and we know we're not alone
because the data has accumulated i'm back to laniakea i'm going to see if this plays
betcha doesn't darn it didn't show up in the pdf file
i wanted to use it did in the other one but you can see uh there's the tiny little dot where the
milky way galaxy is i encourage you to plug laniakea into the search engine and watch that
brief four minute video and just contemplate what the james webb is telling us uh
contemplate what you know
to be true about the universe and what you know to be true about the ubiquity of life on earth
where it can evolve it will evolve so um there's always more to say at other cases i want to
discuss i'm going to show you a picture of the book i mentioned ufos in government
michael swords robert powell some of the invisible college i'm there because i contributed
as best i could to this
monumental study you can buy it you can buy it from me for the same amazon price if you want
signed and once again i refer you to my website themeworks.com uh there's links to an awful lot
of speeches and other things and as i say mobius a memoir all i can do is encourage you to look at
the 20 or so reviews uh a few at goodreads uh five-star reviews all over goodreads and amazon
i would really appreciate a copy if you're enjoying the video and it was useful and i hope you
i'm good morning and good afternoon everybody my name is john leonard research and ambassador
for the united states and the african-american public health organization and i have been working
for the united states since 2010.
years i made the very best closest deeply loved friends and colleagues from that first time on in
1996 i owe so much to this conference for illuminating the proper hacker mentality and
i will quote a talk i did when the businesses were showing up recruiting hackers for the first time
and i was worried they would be assimilated into the economic structure as you most of you have by
now and i said please do not neglect the duplicity and larceny in your hearts by which i mean the
hacker modality the hacker mentality the never quit the up all night the find a way to break
down the complex system until it looks like a different complex system which gives you means
and access do all the things you need to do to make the word hacker not refer to a criminal
but to the most imaginative
creative empowered person we have got in our midst so that's it that's who i am i look forward to
connecting with you if we can thank you for listening i'm sorry i could not be there with you
but i'm glad yet we have him here with us on the line so we'd like to say a few words
okay richard you're live
okay uh thank you
thank you for showing up i really appreciate the interest in it uh for for me you you know
it's been sources and resources in years of exploring and trying to pay attention to what's
real and talking to people both privately and publicly and and so i finally decided to tell
more of the truth than i ever have it's simple uh thank you for being there uh i wish i could do q a
we don't have time you've got my contact information it's easy to find through my website
uh any questions any concerns just write to me or text me and i will get back to you and
uh thank you defcon thank you all of you uh as always uh so much uh for being everything this
this con has has been for 30 years and thank you richard from all of us