1 00:00:30,710 --> 00:00:31,930 Alright, I'm FakeJ. 2 00:00:32,310 --> 00:00:34,310 This is Pickpocket James. 3 00:00:34,310 --> 00:00:39,830 James, what got you into pickpocketing? 4 00:00:40,450 --> 00:00:43,730 Well, my joke line is I got tricked into it. 5 00:00:43,730 --> 00:00:44,410 You got tricked. 6 00:00:44,410 --> 00:00:50,170 Yeah, but honestly, I did martial arts for a stupid amount of time and then I injured my knee. 7 00:00:50,170 --> 00:00:53,290 And while I was bedridden, I decided to start doing magic tricks and stuff. 8 00:00:53,290 --> 00:00:57,990 And I really wanted to do picking pockets. 9 00:00:57,990 --> 00:00:59,610 It really caught my interest. 10 00:01:00,070 --> 00:01:05,110 Turns out, after a couple years of doing it, I found out my dad used to do it in England. 11 00:01:05,110 --> 00:01:06,670 So apparently it's genetic. 12 00:01:06,950 --> 00:01:09,930 And is this something you've ever done illicitly? 13 00:01:09,930 --> 00:01:10,770 No. 14 00:01:11,170 --> 00:01:13,450 My moral compass is a little too strong. 15 00:01:13,450 --> 00:01:13,910 Good. 16 00:01:13,910 --> 00:01:16,250 I always give stuff back. 17 00:01:17,250 --> 00:01:24,310 I just do love the challenge of it and I do enjoy seeing people's reactions to when I give their stuff back. 18 00:01:24,870 --> 00:01:27,170 And what does Rogue Village mean to you? 19 00:01:27,170 --> 00:01:29,610 What is it you want everybody to know? 20 00:01:29,610 --> 00:01:30,650 Why do you do this? 21 00:01:30,650 --> 00:01:32,310 Why do you teach this? 22 00:01:32,370 --> 00:01:34,390 Well, really it's like martial arts. 23 00:01:34,390 --> 00:01:39,250 Everyone always thinks like, oh, now people are going to go out there and learn how to pick everyone's pockets. 24 00:01:39,250 --> 00:01:40,790 And I'm like, that's not the case. 25 00:01:40,790 --> 00:01:47,630 What I'm trying to do is show you how it's done so you can prepare yourself to not have it happen to you. 26 00:01:47,670 --> 00:01:50,310 Try to mitigate damage, basically. 27 00:01:50,310 --> 00:01:51,570 Ethical pickpocketing. 28 00:01:51,570 --> 00:01:52,690 Ethical hacking. 29 00:01:53,390 --> 00:01:56,170 Learning the defensive techniques here. 30 00:01:56,170 --> 00:01:58,210 I look forward to earning my white hat. 31 00:01:58,210 --> 00:02:00,910 Are there any exclusive tips that you can show us? 32 00:02:00,910 --> 00:02:03,050 Well, I will say this. 33 00:02:04,010 --> 00:02:08,450 Obviously we're not going to be running into these kind of jackets in Vegas too often. 34 00:02:08,450 --> 00:02:24,930 But my best tip for you is when you have stuff that's going to go in pockets and everything, make sure it's the bare minimum because anything else that's in there is going to be objects to try and take. 35 00:02:25,290 --> 00:02:33,150 If you have more things in the way to try and make this more difficult, then I'm just not going to bother. 36 00:02:33,570 --> 00:02:40,510 Reaching in and taking something that's half out of a pocket makes my life easy, so it's going to be easy to do. 37 00:02:40,530 --> 00:02:46,890 So how would you rate my setup as far as defensive, as far as how easy if I... 38 00:02:46,890 --> 00:02:48,130 Obviously this is a round back, but... 39 00:02:48,130 --> 00:02:49,950 Yeah, so I was just going to mention that. 40 00:02:50,110 --> 00:02:51,930 You have zippers, which is nice. 41 00:02:51,930 --> 00:02:53,210 It's a small deterrent. 42 00:02:54,650 --> 00:02:58,890 However, your fanny pack or messenger bag, however you want to call it... 43 00:02:58,890 --> 00:02:59,750 It's a sling. 44 00:02:59,750 --> 00:03:00,370 There you go. 45 00:03:00,550 --> 00:03:01,830 It's a sling. 46 00:03:01,830 --> 00:03:04,730 Listen, at his height and weight, he's allowed to call it a purse. 47 00:03:05,270 --> 00:03:09,670 But even though there's zippers, this is off your person. 48 00:03:09,670 --> 00:03:17,850 So when it's behind you, that's a big red flag in my eyes because you're not going to feel it open because it's off your person. 49 00:03:17,850 --> 00:03:20,450 The same goes for this lovely little thing here. 50 00:03:20,450 --> 00:03:25,610 Yes, popping that's going to be difficult, but it's off your person. 51 00:03:25,610 --> 00:03:32,470 So if I've put the time into dealing with the quick release, I don't think you would notice too much. 52 00:03:32,470 --> 00:03:35,790 So it's things to just be aware of. 53 00:03:36,010 --> 00:03:39,710 If I was in an elevator, I would make sure that's in front of me, is all I'm saying. 54 00:03:39,710 --> 00:03:43,230 So what life lessons can you draw from being a pickpocket? 55 00:03:43,250 --> 00:03:45,810 A life lesson, that's an interesting question. 56 00:03:47,030 --> 00:03:59,270 I find that as much as we talk about moving into this, oh, people don't like being touched, people don't like having people in everyone's vicinity. 57 00:03:59,310 --> 00:04:01,830 I've found that that's not the case. 58 00:04:02,150 --> 00:04:06,450 You just don't want people you don't like in your vicinity. 59 00:04:07,590 --> 00:04:15,130 So if someone is charismatic and you don't know who they are, you know, wolf in sheep's clothing and all that. 60 00:04:15,130 --> 00:04:17,590 So we're at DEF CON 30. 61 00:04:17,590 --> 00:04:20,670 What do you have coming up for DEF CON 31? 62 00:04:21,570 --> 00:04:39,350 So if I'm able to make it back, a little bit of more of the same, of getting people to understand how it works, but also trying to get sort of, it's sort of hush-hush at the moment of trying to have like a starter kit. 63 00:04:39,990 --> 00:04:45,070 So you have all the tools you can take with you to practice, whether it's at the hotel... 64 00:04:45,070 --> 00:04:47,250 Here or at home. 65 00:04:47,250 --> 00:04:50,290 So we'll see if we can get it done in time. 66 00:04:50,290 --> 00:04:51,370 This is Rogue's Village? 67 00:04:51,370 --> 00:04:51,850 Yes. 68 00:04:51,850 --> 00:04:56,110 So what do you consider the modern-day gentlemanly rogue? 69 00:04:56,230 --> 00:04:57,270 Gentlemanly rogue. 70 00:04:57,270 --> 00:05:12,780 Well, as much as I would love to be able to wear a three-piece suit and don a hat and monocle and all the rest of it, I think just they're nicer than they should be. 71 00:05:12,780 --> 00:05:15,640 Ah, social engineering. 72 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:24,800 It is a social engineering touch to it because you are only upset or angry when you don't have control of the situation. 73 00:05:25,220 --> 00:05:34,880 So when someone's really nice and you don't know who they are and all the rest of it, again, it boils down to, if they're nice, what do they know? 74 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:37,900 Very interesting. 75 00:05:37,900 --> 00:05:42,740 Pickpocket James, you are on every social media with Pickpocket James. 76 00:05:42,740 --> 00:05:43,980 Thank you very much, sir. 77 00:05:43,980 --> 00:05:45,580 It's been fantastic. 78 00:05:45,620 --> 00:05:46,920 Great information.