[00:30.710 --> 00:39.830]  Alright, I'm FakeJ. This is Pickpocket James. James, what got you into pickpocketing?
[00:40.450 --> 00:43.730]  Well, my joke line is I got tricked into it.
[00:43.730 --> 00:44.410]  You got tricked.
[00:44.410 --> 00:50.170]  Yeah, but honestly, I did martial arts for a stupid amount of time and then I injured my knee.
[00:50.170 --> 00:53.290]  And while I was bedridden, I decided to start doing magic tricks and stuff.
[00:53.290 --> 00:59.610]  And I really wanted to do picking pockets. It really caught my interest.
[01:00.070 --> 01:05.110]  Turns out, after a couple years of doing it, I found out my dad used to do it in England.
[01:05.110 --> 01:06.670]  So apparently it's genetic.
[01:06.950 --> 01:09.930]  And is this something you've ever done illicitly?
[01:09.930 --> 01:13.450]  No. My moral compass is a little too strong.
[01:13.450 --> 01:13.910]  Good.
[01:13.910 --> 01:16.250]  I always give stuff back.
[01:17.250 --> 01:24.310]  I just do love the challenge of it and I do enjoy seeing people's reactions to when I give their stuff back.
[01:24.870 --> 01:27.170]  And what does Rogue Village mean to you?
[01:27.170 --> 01:32.310]  What is it you want everybody to know? Why do you do this? Why do you teach this?
[01:32.370 --> 01:34.390]  Well, really it's like martial arts.
[01:34.390 --> 01:39.250]  Everyone always thinks like, oh, now people are going to go out there and learn how to pick everyone's pockets.
[01:39.250 --> 01:40.790]  And I'm like, that's not the case.
[01:40.790 --> 01:47.630]  What I'm trying to do is show you how it's done so you can prepare yourself to not have it happen to you.
[01:47.670 --> 01:50.310]  Try to mitigate damage, basically.
[01:50.310 --> 01:56.170]  Ethical pickpocketing. Ethical hacking. Learning the defensive techniques here.
[01:56.170 --> 01:58.210]  I look forward to earning my white hat.
[01:58.210 --> 02:00.910]  Are there any exclusive tips that you can show us?
[02:00.910 --> 02:08.450]  Well, I will say this. Obviously we're not going to be running into these kind of jackets in Vegas too often.
[02:08.450 --> 02:15.030]  But my best tip for you is when you have stuff that's going to go in pockets and everything,
[02:15.030 --> 02:24.930]  make sure it's the bare minimum because anything else that's in there is going to be objects to try and take.
[02:25.290 --> 02:33.150]  If you have more things in the way to try and make this more difficult, then I'm just not going to bother.
[02:33.570 --> 02:40.510]  Reaching in and taking something that's half out of a pocket makes my life easy, so it's going to be easy to do.
[02:40.530 --> 02:46.890]  So how would you rate my setup as far as defensive, as far as how easy if I...
[02:46.890 --> 02:48.130]  Obviously this is a round back, but...
[02:48.130 --> 02:49.950]  Yeah, so I was just going to mention that.
[02:50.110 --> 02:53.210]  You have zippers, which is nice. It's a small deterrent.
[02:54.650 --> 02:58.890]  However, your fanny pack or messenger bag, however you want to call it...
[02:58.890 --> 02:59.750]  It's a sling.
[02:59.750 --> 03:00.370]  There you go.
[03:00.550 --> 03:01.830]  It's a sling.
[03:01.830 --> 03:04.730]  Listen, at his height and weight, he's allowed to call it a purse.
[03:05.270 --> 03:09.670]  But even though there's zippers, this is off your person.
[03:09.670 --> 03:17.850]  So when it's behind you, that's a big red flag in my eyes because you're not going to feel it open because it's off your person.
[03:17.850 --> 03:20.450]  The same goes for this lovely little thing here.
[03:20.450 --> 03:25.610]  Yes, popping that's going to be difficult, but it's off your person.
[03:25.610 --> 03:32.470]  So if I've put the time into dealing with the quick release, I don't think you would notice too much.
[03:32.470 --> 03:35.790]  So it's things to just be aware of.
[03:36.010 --> 03:39.710]  If I was in an elevator, I would make sure that's in front of me, is all I'm saying.
[03:39.710 --> 03:43.230]  So what life lessons can you draw from being a pickpocket?
[03:43.250 --> 03:45.810]  A life lesson, that's an interesting question.
[03:47.030 --> 03:59.270]  I find that as much as we talk about moving into this, oh, people don't like being touched, people don't like having people in everyone's vicinity.
[03:59.310 --> 04:01.830]  I've found that that's not the case.
[04:02.150 --> 04:06.450]  You just don't want people you don't like in your vicinity.
[04:07.590 --> 04:15.130]  So if someone is charismatic and you don't know who they are, you know, wolf in sheep's clothing and all that.
[04:15.130 --> 04:20.670]  So we're at DEF CON 30. What do you have coming up for DEF CON 31?
[04:21.570 --> 04:29.070]  So if I'm able to make it back, a little bit of more of the same, of getting people to understand how it works,
[04:29.070 --> 04:39.350]  but also trying to get sort of, it's sort of hush-hush at the moment of trying to have like a starter kit.
[04:39.990 --> 04:45.070]  So you have all the tools you can take with you to practice, whether it's at the hotel...
[04:45.070 --> 04:50.290]  Here or at home. So we'll see if we can get it done in time.
[04:50.290 --> 04:51.370]  This is Rogue's Village?
[04:51.370 --> 04:51.850]  Yes.
[04:51.850 --> 04:56.110]  So what do you consider the modern-day gentlemanly rogue?
[04:56.230 --> 05:05.330]  Gentlemanly rogue. Well, as much as I would love to be able to wear a three-piece suit and don a hat and monocle and all the rest of it,
[05:05.330 --> 05:12.780]  I think just they're nicer than they should be.
[05:12.780 --> 05:15.640]  Ah, social engineering.
[05:15.640 --> 05:24.800]  It is a social engineering touch to it because you are only upset or angry when you don't have control of the situation.
[05:25.220 --> 05:34.880]  So when someone's really nice and you don't know who they are and all the rest of it, again, it boils down to, if they're nice, what do they know?
[05:36.520 --> 05:42.740]  Very interesting. Pickpocket James, you are on every social media with Pickpocket James.
[05:42.740 --> 05:46.920]  Thank you very much, sir. It's been fantastic. Great information.