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0	4500	So this is Heisenberg, DEF CON 30's demo labs. You have to show off this thing.
4500	6700	Demo labs. The demo labs lab coat.
6740	8240	Right, the demo labs lab coat.
8240	9920	So what is DEF CON demo labs?
9920	16380	So demo labs is an opportunity for researchers to present their tools, to present their projects,
16380	24740	in a way, in a forum, that allows interaction between the community and the presenter, the person that's doing the project.
24740	26420	Is it community driven?
26420	31160	I mean, the person speaking is like a corporate person selling their tool?
31160	35620	Nope, this is all open source. We're focusing on the open source stuff.
35620	44120	And the idea is, it is very community driven because it is designed to be able to allow the community to interact with the presenter.
44120	47280	That's one reason why these are small forums.
47280	52880	Is that the audience or the participants can sit there and listen, interact, questions.
52880	61900	And what we find, oftentimes, is the projects continue to evolve year after year based on community input.
62080	66540	So individuals will come, they'll listen, they'll say, hey, this works great, but I need something else.
66540	68780	Or can it do this? And can it do that?
68780	72820	And then a couple of years later, they come back with a new evolution of the tool.
72820	76380	And it's directly from interaction right here at the con.
76380	81880	That is really cool. Because I know that's one of the problems with open source, oftentimes, is you make this really cool.
81880	88800	Like, GitHub and other ones have just become so big, it's really hard to find what projects are still active.
88800	92280	And then it's sometimes really difficult to communicate with the creator.
92280	97920	Here, the creator can come, show off the product, say, here's what I'm trying to build.
97920	101940	Or here's the project I'm trying to build. I need help with it.
101940	104180	Can I get some feedback? Can I get some insight?
104180	109680	And unlike the big tracks, which are kind of like, here's a presentation for you.
109680	112220	This is more of a, I need help.
112340	118700	Exactly, exactly. And so it's that interactivity that we really strive for in demo labs.
118700	123740	And the other thing that's really cool is it's a lot of networking and community building.
123740	128600	Because oftentimes, somebody will say, yeah, I did this project and this sort of thing.
128600	132420	And they say, wait a minute, that guy? Oh, yeah, I know him. And he does this.
132420	135600	And so then you see this synergy of things coming together.
135600	140800	And you're thinking, man, it can only happen here and can only happen in a forum like this.
140800	144140	So that's what demo labs is. And that's why I'm psyched to do it.
144140	147220	What's been one of the coolest, or I'll say not even one of the coolest,
147220	151140	what has been one of your favorite projects that you've seen get shown off?
151140	154980	You know, and that's the thing that every single project is uniquely different.
154980	159740	We have hardware hacking. We have RF hacking. We have code analysis.
159740	164060	We have cool exploitation tools like Empire and things like that.
164060	170740	Darkmatter comes and gives all of his Wi-Fi. So it's really just the entire wide gamut of everything.
170740	175160	And that's the part that's so cool is it's not just narrowly focused.
175160	180560	It's wide on all of the tool sets. So everybody has an opportunity.
180840	185540	Whatever your niche interest is, there's more than likely going to be a demo labs this year for it.
185540	189960	That is so cool. And this is part of the conference. This isn't like you have to pay for this ahead of time?
189960	193980	Nope, nope. This is part of the conference and it has been going on for many years.
193980	197520	It was going on before I inherited. I've been doing it about five years now.
197700	204800	And it is just absolutely a fantastic opportunity. We put out a call for demos, just like a call for papers.
204800	208520	And we get the contributions in and then we get those contributions.
208520	213820	We go through and we pick out the ones that think are going to be the best work, the best fit for the conference.
214480	218880	That's awesome. Thank you so much. I've heard of demo labs.
218880	223340	I've never got to experience them. This is so cool.
223340	226060	Because I think what's at the core of it is the community.
226120	230760	Well, the tools are great and whatnot. When you create a tool, it's so often in hacking.
230760	234840	You create something cool and you're in your basement or you're in your office.
234840	238100	And then you stand up and you're like, woo, and that's it.
238100	238620	Yeah, yeah.
238620	241880	We're here. It's an opportunity to come and share.
241920	244920	And I think in the big stages, you don't get that excitement.
245320	252020	You can hear the excitement in the people you're developing for and it gives you some energy to continue doing it.
252020	257400	It absolutely does. It's just as good for the presenters as it is for the individuals that are listening.
257400	262280	Because they get that energy and they get to feed and get that information and get that interaction.
262280	266300	So if I want to get involved in demo labs, where do I go?
266520	269480	The best thing to do is to look for the call for demos.
269480	276500	And when there's a call for demos comes out about the same time as call for papers, wrap up your cool tool and send it in.
276500	278080	And we will take a look at it.
278080	283780	And if you're picked, you'll be sitting in there next year or wherever we are and you'll be given your demo lab.
283780	286080	This is great. Thank you so much for sharing.
286080	287640	Thank you for watching.
287640	290060	And as always, hack on!