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10160	14400	Hey everybody, here we are back again, still at DEF CON, still running around doing these
14400	18160	crazy interviews. We took a chance to slow down a little bit. We're checking out the
18160	23380	Hacker Memorial right now. I'm sitting here with Hunter, who is also the founder and whole
23380	24800	reason this thing started, correct?
24800	36580	Well, Jeff created it, for sure. And it was kind of a group request after Dan passed.
37200	45080	And I've been with DEF CON, this is my 24th year. And I was looking for some other things
45080	51580	to do and contribute. And this is an area that I actually have a lot of training in.
52030	60980	So I'm the lead right now, and we're growing. It's our third year. And we just want to make
60980	67540	sure people understand this is a great thing to do and come and share stories and honor
67540	76720	and laugh and cry about people that you've known, people who helped you learn things,
76720	88940	people who showed you how to be an amazing hacker. And as a community, honoring those
88940	98060	who have come before us is a really important way to bring us together. And also, with new
98060	106540	people coming in, or newbies, I think that's out of place these days, as a word, they get
106540	113100	to have a deeper sense of what DEF CON is about, and what this community is about.
114820	119680	Yeah, it's definitely... I love the idea. I love what you guys have going on here. It's
119680	124560	really nice that you're giving people that chance for remembrance and a chance to slow
124560	128220	down and kind of keep these people in their memories, let them enjoy it, or kind of feel
128220	131760	like they're around again. Because this is a big community, and the last few years have
131760	136860	definitely made none of us strangers to loss. Yeah. I think this is really cool, because it
136860	140840	makes me think about that old saying that you're never really truly dead until your name's
140840	145580	uttered for the last time. So this is a good way to kind of keep everybody around and remembered.
145940	151620	And we have various things people can do here. They can write on this. This is an
151620	158540	addition to this year. And it is that element that we don't want to forget.
159280	164380	And we won't if we keep connecting and sharing and
166200	173000	telling crazy stories about what someone did back in the day, which they might not actually
173000	179400	do anymore. You know, because back then the laws were different, and now it's a little different.
179400	190400	But it keeps us alive. And Jeff is looking at and we're looking at how to expand this.
190820	196940	If you have ideas, if there are things you think would be great here, please come and share those.
197500	205400	We are not set in stone, so to speak. We have stones you can draw on, but we are not set in
205400	212900	stone. We will be constantly evolving. One thing that's being looked at is
213610	217280	kind of having a presence virtually year-round.
218240	228040	Being a space where if you lose someone in that moment, at that time, you can start
229000	234340	connecting with your family, your DEFCON family, about what you're going through or just
235400	240640	you know, it's not like you have to tell everybody everything because this is a relatively private
240640	248940	group. But people won't be asking you questions. They just want to be present and help. And
251540	259660	oftentimes people may not even know if it's someone close to them what their next step needs to be.
260900	265340	Well, it's nice to see you got the community helping the community. So yeah, we're very
265340	268920	thankful for what you're doing here. We love that you were able to take the time to talk with us.
269000	276760	You bet. We're here every day until about 6, 630 and on Sunday we'll close down about noon so we
276760	284000	can get ready for closing. But please come see us. And we're out, if you go to Infobooth or
284000	291480	HackerTracker you'll find us and there's an email that we have and if you can send us photographs
292100	297920	of your friends or times with them and we can print here and we will also keep them
297920	304080	and keep them online. If you get a chance, come slow down for a minute,
304080	309620	check out the memorial everyone. See you next time. It's cool and we have water.