[00:10.160 --> 00:14.400]  Hey everybody, here we are back again, still at DEF CON, still running around doing these
[00:14.400 --> 00:18.160]  crazy interviews. We took a chance to slow down a little bit. We're checking out the
[00:18.160 --> 00:23.380]  Hacker Memorial right now. I'm sitting here with Hunter, who is also the founder and whole
[00:23.380 --> 00:24.800]  reason this thing started, correct?
[00:24.800 --> 00:36.580]  Well, Jeff created it, for sure. And it was kind of a group request after Dan passed.
[00:37.200 --> 00:45.080]  And I've been with DEF CON, this is my 24th year. And I was looking for some other things
[00:45.080 --> 00:51.580]  to do and contribute. And this is an area that I actually have a lot of training in.
[00:52.030 --> 01:00.980]  So I'm the lead right now, and we're growing. It's our third year. And we just want to make
[01:00.980 --> 01:07.540]  sure people understand this is a great thing to do and come and share stories and honor
[01:07.540 --> 01:16.720]  and laugh and cry about people that you've known, people who helped you learn things,
[01:16.720 --> 01:28.940]  people who showed you how to be an amazing hacker. And as a community, honoring those
[01:28.940 --> 01:38.060]  who have come before us is a really important way to bring us together. And also, with new
[01:38.060 --> 01:46.540]  people coming in, or newbies, I think that's out of place these days, as a word, they get
[01:46.540 --> 01:53.100]  to have a deeper sense of what DEF CON is about, and what this community is about.
[01:54.820 --> 01:59.680]  Yeah, it's definitely... I love the idea. I love what you guys have going on here. It's
[01:59.680 --> 02:04.560]  really nice that you're giving people that chance for remembrance and a chance to slow
[02:04.560 --> 02:08.220]  down and kind of keep these people in their memories, let them enjoy it, or kind of feel
[02:08.220 --> 02:11.760]  like they're around again. Because this is a big community, and the last few years have
[02:11.760 --> 02:16.860]  definitely made none of us strangers to loss. Yeah. I think this is really cool, because it
[02:16.860 --> 02:20.840]  makes me think about that old saying that you're never really truly dead until your name's
[02:20.840 --> 02:25.580]  uttered for the last time. So this is a good way to kind of keep everybody around and remembered.
[02:25.940 --> 02:31.620]  And we have various things people can do here. They can write on this. This is an
[02:31.620 --> 02:38.540]  addition to this year. And it is that element that we don't want to forget.
[02:39.280 --> 02:44.380]  And we won't if we keep connecting and sharing and
[02:46.200 --> 02:53.000]  telling crazy stories about what someone did back in the day, which they might not actually
[02:53.000 --> 02:59.400]  do anymore. You know, because back then the laws were different, and now it's a little different.
[02:59.400 --> 03:10.400]  But it keeps us alive. And Jeff is looking at and we're looking at how to expand this.
[03:10.820 --> 03:16.940]  If you have ideas, if there are things you think would be great here, please come and share those.
[03:17.500 --> 03:25.400]  We are not set in stone, so to speak. We have stones you can draw on, but we are not set in
[03:25.400 --> 03:32.900]  stone. We will be constantly evolving. One thing that's being looked at is
[03:33.610 --> 03:37.280]  kind of having a presence virtually year-round.
[03:38.240 --> 03:48.040]  Being a space where if you lose someone in that moment, at that time, you can start
[03:49.000 --> 03:54.340]  connecting with your family, your DEFCON family, about what you're going through or just
[03:55.400 --> 04:00.640]  you know, it's not like you have to tell everybody everything because this is a relatively private
[04:00.640 --> 04:08.940]  group. But people won't be asking you questions. They just want to be present and help. And
[04:11.540 --> 04:19.660]  oftentimes people may not even know if it's someone close to them what their next step needs to be.
[04:20.900 --> 04:25.340]  Well, it's nice to see you got the community helping the community. So yeah, we're very
[04:25.340 --> 04:28.920]  thankful for what you're doing here. We love that you were able to take the time to talk with us.
[04:29.000 --> 04:36.760]  You bet. We're here every day until about 6, 630 and on Sunday we'll close down about noon so we
[04:36.760 --> 04:44.000]  can get ready for closing. But please come see us. And we're out, if you go to Infobooth or
[04:44.000 --> 04:51.480]  HackerTracker you'll find us and there's an email that we have and if you can send us photographs
[04:52.100 --> 04:57.920]  of your friends or times with them and we can print here and we will also keep them
[04:57.920 --> 05:04.080]  and keep them online. If you get a chance, come slow down for a minute,
[05:04.080 --> 05:09.620]  check out the memorial everyone. See you next time. It's cool and we have water.