WEBVTT 00:10.160 --> 00:15.320 Hey everybody, here we are back again, still at DEF CON, still running around doing these crazy interviews. 00:15.320 --> 00:17.380 We took a chance to slow down a little bit. 00:17.380 --> 00:19.560 We're checking out the Hacker Memorial right now. 00:19.860 --> 00:24.800 I'm sitting here with Hunter, who is also the founder and whole reason this thing started, correct? 00:24.800 --> 00:29.720 Well, Jeff created it, for sure. 00:29.720 --> 00:36.580 And it was kind of a group request after Dan passed. 00:37.200 --> 00:41.840 And I've been with DEF CON, this is my 24th year. 00:42.160 --> 00:46.840 And I was looking for some other things to do and contribute. 00:46.900 --> 00:51.580 And this is an area that I actually have a lot of training in. 00:52.030 --> 00:56.860 So I'm the lead right now, and we're growing. 00:56.860 --> 00:58.460 It's our third year. 00:58.860 --> 01:21.080 And we just want to make sure people understand this is a great thing to do and come and share stories and honor and laugh and cry about people that you've known, people who helped you learn things, people who showed you how to be an amazing hacker. 01:22.080 --> 01:35.380 And as a community, honoring those who have come before us is a really important way to bring us together. 01:35.580 --> 01:53.100 And also, with new people coming in, or newbies, I think that's out of place these days, as a word, they get to have a deeper sense of what DEF CON is about, and what this community is about. 01:54.820 --> 01:57.560 Yeah, it's definitely... I love the idea. 01:57.560 --> 01:59.240 I love what you guys have going on here. 01:59.280 --> 02:08.920 It's really nice that you're giving people that chance for remembrance and a chance to slow down and kind of keep these people in their memories, let them enjoy it, or kind of feel like they're around again. 02:08.920 --> 02:14.300 Because this is a big community, and the last few years have definitely made none of us strangers to loss. 02:14.380 --> 02:14.800 Yeah. 02:14.800 --> 02:22.140 I think this is really cool, because it makes me think about that old saying that you're never really truly dead until your name's uttered for the last time. 02:22.220 --> 02:25.580 So this is a good way to kind of keep everybody around and remembered. 02:25.940 --> 02:29.300 And we have various things people can do here. 02:29.300 --> 02:30.880 They can write on this. 02:30.880 --> 02:33.280 This is an addition to this year. 02:33.700 --> 02:38.540 And it is that element that we don't want to forget. 02:39.280 --> 02:54.340 And we won't if we keep connecting and sharing and telling crazy stories about what someone did back in the day, which they might not actually do anymore. 02:54.340 --> 02:59.400 You know, because back then the laws were different, and now it's a little different. 02:59.400 --> 03:03.520 But it keeps us alive. 03:04.640 --> 03:10.400 And Jeff is looking at and we're looking at how to expand this. 03:10.820 --> 03:16.940 If you have ideas, if there are things you think would be great here, please come and share those. 03:17.500 --> 03:22.080 We are not set in stone, so to speak. 03:22.080 --> 03:25.920 We have stones you can draw on, but we are not set in stone. 03:25.920 --> 03:28.500 We will be constantly evolving. 03:29.760 --> 03:37.280 One thing that's being looked at is kind of having a presence virtually year-round. 03:38.240 --> 04:01.740 Being a space where if you lose someone in that moment, at that time, you can start connecting with your family, your DEFCON family, about what you're going through or just you know, it's not like you have to tell everybody everything because this is a relatively private group. 04:02.400 --> 04:05.180 But people won't be asking you questions. 04:05.180 --> 04:07.780 They just want to be present and help. 04:08.540 --> 04:19.660 And oftentimes people may not even know if it's someone close to them what their next step needs to be. 04:20.900 --> 04:23.960 Well, it's nice to see you got the community helping the community. 04:24.040 --> 04:26.600 So yeah, we're very thankful for what you're doing here. 04:26.600 --> 04:28.920 We love that you were able to take the time to talk with us. 04:29.000 --> 04:29.640 You bet. 04:29.680 --> 04:38.540 We're here every day until about 6, 630 and on Sunday we'll close down about noon so we can get ready for closing. 04:39.000 --> 04:41.020 But please come see us. 04:41.240 --> 05:00.920 And we're out, if you go to Infobooth or HackerTracker you'll find us and there's an email that we have and if you can send us photographs of your friends or times with them and we can print here and we will also keep them and keep them online. 05:01.120 --> 05:06.100 If you get a chance, come slow down for a minute, check out the memorial everyone. 05:06.100 --> 05:07.360 See you next time. 05:07.520 --> 05:09.620 It's cool and we have water.