[00:00.000 --> 00:07.960]  Hi everyone! Welcome back to TinyMike Interviews at DEF CON 31. I am here at the Scavenger Hunt contest with Zora.
[00:08.180 --> 00:09.080]  Yes.
[00:09.080 --> 00:15.440]  And I think that the Scavenger Hunt is one of the most interesting parts of DEF CON, besides everyone.
[00:16.220 --> 00:17.460]  It is so chaotic.
[00:17.460 --> 00:19.100]  It is entirely chaotic.
[00:19.100 --> 00:21.660]  It is the definition of DEF CON chaos.
[00:21.660 --> 00:22.300]  Yes.
[00:23.420 --> 00:27.060]  And I feel like there needs to be more features on it, hence why I'm here.
[00:27.360 --> 00:29.360]  Tell me about the Scavenger Hunt.
[00:29.360 --> 00:31.540]  Obviously the Scavenger Hunt, but tell me about it.
[00:31.540 --> 00:34.820]  Okay, so this is our 26th year here at DEF CON.
[00:34.920 --> 00:35.360]  26?!
[00:35.360 --> 00:37.480]  Yes, we are 26 years old.
[00:37.480 --> 00:38.200]  Oh my god.
[00:38.200 --> 00:42.100]  Yes, we are one of the longest running contests here at DEF CON.
[00:42.340 --> 00:47.240]  We are what we call, we keep the shenanigans alive, we keep DEF CON weird.
[00:48.500 --> 00:56.260]  That is the embodiment of what we try to do and keep that side of the culture of DEF CON alive.
[00:56.720 --> 01:05.320]  So, in the 26 years, there's been a lot of ideas and weirdness that's happened.
[01:05.320 --> 01:05.380]  Yes.
[01:05.380 --> 01:10.880]  I mean, if you're not here right now, the booth is probably one of the most interesting booths in the world.
[01:11.220 --> 01:16.780]  But I would love to know, this year, what is your favorite item on the Scavenger Hunt list?
[01:16.780 --> 01:17.500]  Oh my gosh.
[01:17.500 --> 01:25.320]  So this year, we have quite a few items interacting with as many of the contests as we possibly could do this year.
[01:25.320 --> 01:25.880]  Okay.
[01:26.080 --> 01:31.480]  So, honestly, I hate to say, I haven't had a chance to go through the finalized list.
[01:31.480 --> 01:31.860]  Oh my god.
[01:31.860 --> 01:35.080]  Because it has been absolutely chaotic behind our table.
[01:35.080 --> 01:38.140]  So, we got our list printed and we just threw it out to people.
[01:38.140 --> 01:41.220]  I actually haven't had my chance to look at my items.
[01:41.520 --> 01:48.160]  But I do know that we have a lot dealing with people and a lot dealing with the contest this year.
[01:48.160 --> 01:51.280]  So I'm hoping things will be really quiet.
[01:51.480 --> 01:54.380]  So then, maybe in past years, which one's been your favorite?
[01:54.380 --> 01:55.520]  Oh gosh.
[01:55.640 --> 01:56.740]  That is, oh, that's so many years.
[01:56.740 --> 02:00.220]  Do you mind that the Scavenger Hunt is also like low-key?
[02:00.220 --> 02:01.700]  It's not PG.
[02:02.000 --> 02:02.620]  No.
[02:02.620 --> 02:03.240]  It's not PG.
[02:03.240 --> 02:04.260]  It is not PG.
[02:04.260 --> 02:07.600]  We have toned it down a little bit over the years.
[02:07.600 --> 02:12.220]  We try to be a little more friendly, a little more, you know, you know.
[02:13.960 --> 02:18.160]  When I played back in 2020, DEF CON 20 was my first year.
[02:18.160 --> 02:20.760]  And I played as a solo player team.
[02:22.260 --> 02:25.820]  And honestly, at the time, my favorite items were group items.
[02:25.820 --> 02:28.600]  Because it was like your entire group in this pool.
[02:28.600 --> 02:30.520]  Or your entire group hugging goons.
[02:30.520 --> 02:32.420]  I was like, great, it's just me.
[02:32.420 --> 02:33.620]  It works out.
[02:33.820 --> 02:38.920]  I love the items where it's really left up to interpretation.
[02:38.980 --> 02:43.200]  So one of the items that I really found hilarious was bare breasts.
[02:43.900 --> 02:45.840]  I know, we said it's not PG.
[02:45.980 --> 02:50.280]  Bare breasts was really hilarious because it turned in boneless chicken skinless.
[02:50.780 --> 02:51.580]  Absolutely.
[02:52.080 --> 02:53.860]  Because when you say bare breasts, you mean chicken breasts.
[02:53.860 --> 02:56.600]  We weren't species specific and we weren't gender specific.
[02:56.600 --> 03:00.180]  So a lot of guys also came up to the table and just flashed judges.
[03:00.480 --> 03:00.820]  Wow.
[03:00.820 --> 03:01.240]  Yeah.
[03:01.240 --> 03:01.800]  I love DEF CON.
[03:01.800 --> 03:03.660]  I love DEF CON.
[03:03.740 --> 03:05.860]  What's the highest score you've ever seen?
[03:06.260 --> 03:07.740]  Oh, God, I don't even know.
[03:07.740 --> 03:08.960]  What is the highest score?
[03:08.960 --> 03:14.260]  I mean, I know there's only one team in history that has come close to completing the list.
[03:14.400 --> 03:16.840]  There was only one item that they could not get.
[03:16.840 --> 03:20.040]  And it was because it was actually illegal to bring into the U.S.
[03:20.040 --> 03:22.240]  The coders get it at the time.
[03:23.040 --> 03:25.460]  But that team are now judges.
[03:25.480 --> 03:26.380]  Oh, my God.
[03:28.760 --> 03:32.020]  But the highest score, we only have a certain amount of points.
[03:32.020 --> 03:35.040]  So we only go 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
[03:35.040 --> 03:37.760]  And the highest item that we have is 10 points.
[03:37.760 --> 03:42.480]  So like last year's 10 point item was bounce a meme off the moon.
[03:44.300 --> 03:48.160]  So, I mean, we didn't think this one through.
[03:48.160 --> 03:51.640]  We were thinking using radio and things like that.
[03:52.000 --> 03:56.140]  Then we had somebody with a picture of the moon.
[03:56.140 --> 03:59.840]  And then they mooned the Chill Out Lounge and they threw the phone at their behind.
[04:00.020 --> 04:02.920]  And it did count. It absolutely did count.
[04:03.100 --> 04:06.960]  I love the fact that there's so many different ways to interpret the items.
[04:06.960 --> 04:09.220]  And that's what makes The Scavengers so awesome.
[04:09.220 --> 04:12.060]  It's just the insane interpretations you'll get.
[04:12.060 --> 04:20.880]  So for the people at home who are watching about DEF CON remotely, what do you want them to know?
[04:22.160 --> 04:26.820]  If you've never done DEF CON before, this is what you do.
[04:26.820 --> 04:28.280]  Your first DEF CON.
[04:29.080 --> 04:33.020]  It's entry level. You don't have to have a lot of experience.
[04:33.020 --> 04:38.600]  Like I mentioned earlier, my first DEF CON, I came in as a single player team.
[04:38.600 --> 04:42.580]  And I placed 4th, starting a day late.
[04:42.580 --> 04:46.400]  I started late Saturday afternoon. I competed against teams of 5.
[04:46.420 --> 04:49.100]  And I still made it up there.
[04:49.100 --> 04:50.740]  And now I'm running the contest.
[04:52.160 --> 04:56.600]  People who come and play our contest, they go on to do so many other things with the con.
[04:56.600 --> 04:59.160]  They become goons. They become event organizers.
[04:59.260 --> 05:04.120]  If you come here and you play this game, you're going to make a name for yourself.
[05:04.120 --> 05:05.840]  Either way, people are going to know you.
[05:05.840 --> 05:09.720]  You're going to get to meet people. You're going to get to experience every bit of DEF CON.
[05:09.720 --> 05:14.580]  Because as we try to do, we try to involve contests and villages and people and everything like that.
[05:14.580 --> 05:19.200]  So, if it's your first DEF CON, come do this. Don't be afraid to do it.
[05:19.840 --> 05:21.120]  We're not that mean.
[05:21.200 --> 05:22.420]  That's so awesome.
[05:22.980 --> 05:27.000]  That's so awesome. Well, thank you so much for sharing your stories with us.
[05:27.000 --> 05:28.060]  This is awesome.
[05:28.920 --> 05:33.700]  So, next year or if you're here now, come check it out.
[05:33.700 --> 05:36.140]  Scavenge around in the contest room.
[05:36.260 --> 05:38.300]  We're in the far corner. You can't miss us, though.
[05:38.300 --> 05:40.180]  You cannot miss this place.
[05:40.340 --> 05:41.600]  But thank you so much for this.
[05:41.600 --> 05:42.300]  Thank you.
[05:42.300 --> 05:43.140]  Awesome.